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UK General Election
8th June: General Election here in the UK.
Politics never stops does it! Expect to see Labour wiped out and May and the Conservatives get an increased majority. Scotland will be really interesting to watch as well, whether the SNP do better or worse than last time and the implications for independence. |
Shrewd move by Theresa May. I reckon Labour's seats could be cut to somewhere between 150-200. The biggest winners apart from the Conservatives will be the Liberal Democrats- I think they'll significantly increase their share of the votes and pick up an extra dozen or so seats (including Vince Cable who will stand near to me in Twickenham again). Conservatives might take a couple of extra seats in Scotland but I'd expect SNP to keep most of their huge majority. Scotland will be interesting though.
In general I think a major wipe out would be quite good in a sense for Labour- they need an excuse and an opportunity to get rid of Corbyn. Probably better to get it over and done with now rather than limping along for another few years. On average bookies are offering odds of 1/14 for a Conservative win and one bookie is even going as far as 1/20. Brexit, Trump... no chance of an upset with this one, surely. |
I don't think anyone can be certain of anything after what happened last year. I personally think the current Brexit team is a total disaster so I'm praying for some kind of change :angel:
Thanks to the moderation team for reinstating these threads. I hope it remains reasonably peaceful in here. |
ITV doing a debate without May - good on them.
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...just as I said; a tight election with a hung Parliament :rolleyes:
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Hung Parliament with all the uncertainty that brings....
and the possibility of another EU referendum??? Ps....could Mrs May stop having her hair cut, she looks like a Viking warrior. |
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Well I'm over the moon with the result - I'm a big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, and gaining 41% of the vote from where they were weeks ago, is just amazing! Politics of hope. Yes things are uncertain with a hung parliament, but nothing could be worse (IMHO) than a far right Conservative brexit team with a hugely increased majority. Great news for this country - well done the great British public. After a heavy year, everything feels a little lighter today, at least to me. Weak, wobbly, arrogant Theresa May :shrug: oh dear.... |
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So much so I had to stay up till 3am. The trouble is, as you say, arrogant May I think she'll plough on with her bloody hard brexit regardless. Unless she is pushed during the summer recess. |
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Yes the exit poll made it a very exciting night. I'd planned to watch an hour or 2, but I also turned the TV off at 3am. Then found I couldn't sleep and wanted to know what was happening, so got up again and watched until 5am. I'm not really sure how Theresa May can now stay on as PM in the long term, but maybe she will. I'm just glad she's not in an even more powerful position, and that Labour now have a big increase in MPs. Personally I just feel it's important for Brexit that there is more of a shared power between the parties (although I realise many others would disagree with me) And I just have to mention again - Jeremy Corbyn!! What a star that man is :xoxo: |
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Have to disagree... worst possible result for the country with regards to Brexit negotiations. May can't step down now. The whole point of having an election was because she was an unelected Prime Minister. If she steps down we'd be back in the same position and facing the possibility of another election sooner rather than later. Anyway, if she steps down the successor is likely to be...Boris! Jeremy Corbyn... a star? Hmmm. I'm sure all those ex-shadow cabinet ministers that felt they couldn't work for him will disagree. Nice bloke but couldn't lead a party out of Hampton Court maze. |
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It should be an interesting time to see what happens from here. |
It doesn't matter what you think of Corbyn, personally, but he has proven he can fight a good campaign and lead his party from the front.
He definitely got on a roll that people joined. At the start of the campaign when the election was called, by Mrs May, the Conservatives held an 18 percent lead over Labour. When all the results were in this morning, that lead had been shrunk to 2.4 percent. So, lead his party out of Hampton Court maze.....mmmm. I think the above figures answer that. |
Do any of you in either the U.K. or France feel as if Western Civilization is being threatened by the mass immigration of Muslims into your country? It seems as if every month we see a new #Prayfor[Fill in the blank] trending because of a new radical Islamic terroirist attack in Europe. As an America , it is very sad to see this happening to other Western Civilization countries. A lot of us here want to do something about it, but unfortunately the people who run the country are pushing for this to happen to us.
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Don't you dare accuse me of normalising it. There is nothing at all normal with terrorism. It is deeply saddening and disgusting that it happens. You asked what people in the UK and France think and feel and my honest response is I think I feel safer in the UK than if I lived in the states. Gun crime is at ridiculous levels in the US. More people are shot dead by your police in one month than all the people shot dead by British police... ever. More people were killed in a single nightclub attack than in all terror attacks in the UK in the last 10 years combined. This is not, on the whole an unsafe place to be compared to your country.
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Great debate is fine guys/gals... but, let's keep it civil and attack the issues.
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I believe it's much more complex than extremist terrorism only being a product of immigration. Many of the attackers have been born and brought up in the country of the attack, but have been radicalised by dangerous extremist ideology. The last attack here was by a white extreme racist, who probably had mental health problems. Another attack was by a man of a mixed race/African descent who had converted to radical Islam. Mental health and social problems play a huge role in what's happening over here.
Also I don't think the Brexit vote and recent elections have helped, as it's divided the country even more and lead to more hate crime. The internet is also a huge problem when it comes to radicalisation. And then you have the age old issues of the wars in the middle east and the involvement of West leading to resentments building up, and the messed up ideology of radical Islam and ISIS. I really don't think these attacks will stop if you shut the borders. I don't believe it's the answer and could make the situation worse by breeding more hatred and intolerance. We need to get to the roots of the problems of radicalisation, social issues in our own countries and the relationships Western countries have with those in the Middle East. Just my opinion and I don't want to get involved in any arguments |
And as for the suggestion that mass immigration of Muslims is the problem - I don't believe there is mass immigration of Muslims - I'd have to see the figures. And very importantly Islam is a peaceful religion - and a completely different thing to radical extremist Islam.
Hate and intolerance breeds more hate and violence... edit.. just spotted an article that discusses these issues for anyone interested https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...terror-attacks |
I agree with Moonsister, a lot of the terror issues have been carried out by 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims...
Muslims make up only 5% of the UK population, hardly mass immigration. A false view of the terror is held just as we probably have a false view of the gun problems in the US....it seems to us that a mass shooting occurs every other month and not in ghettos but schools and malls. |
I agree sue, false views are easily perpetuated by the media. I just think the whole mix of terror events, Western-middle east conflict, extreme Islam and hate crime is so complex, the answer doesn't lie in just putting a stop to immigration of one group.
On a lighter note. I know we are not all fans of Jeremy Corbyn in this thread, and not in agreement about whether he is a "star" but I just wanted to share these wonderful Glastonbury photos. Apparently he drew a bigger crowd than the Rolling Stones when they played a few years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/music/ga...17-in-pictures |
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Ps have just watched his clip....huge crowds |
USA.
Your great leader is a complete and utter tosser! Sorry, but his latest dickish tweets make me so angry. |
Another mass shooting.
I don't understand why you don't just ban guns. |
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Can we ban mental illness? |
Donald 'Moron' Trump has conflated rising UK crime rates with Islamic terrorism. Though we cannot be proud of rising crime rates there are absolutely no grounds for blaming Muslims. This Islamophobic tw*t is a complete embarrassment. The guy has an IQ of a child and an EQ of a house brick.
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He is sort of funny ...if he wasn’t President, Who governs by Tweet for God’s sake.? However he was democratically elected, and we have to respect our American friends choice of President...don’t we? |
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then Al Franken Senator for Minnesota. Alabama has hardly got the market cornered on such - just sayin'. Bad time to be a man says Barry. |
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I say, let's kill ALL MEN!
White men to the front of the line! Retribution, biotches! :sorry::xoxo: |
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Another big one bit the dust this morning, Matt Lauer. I'd imagine some people's balls are starting to shrivel at this point so to speak. |
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We should ban them from coming to the US. |
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