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slipkid 07-02-2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 898414)
Oh, of course! But, if you'd seen the last season's ending episode, Jack & Angela ride off into the sunset together.

Just listen to:

Brown Sugar
Just Got Back From Baby's
Blue Jean Blues
Asleep In The Desert (basically a Tex-Mex version of "Oh Well, Part 2")

Any of those it would hard to distinguish Rev Willy from Peter Green's playing.

I tried to watch "Bones" last season without the background of the previous seasons (since "Fringe" now follows "Bones", a show I've watched since the very first ep.). Without the backstory of Dr. T. Brennan, the show doesn't make sense even in season five.

Now that I've seen the previous four seasons', I understand everything. I've only seen a handful of eps. from season five, I will gladly buy season five on DVD in October. I'm aware of Jack and Angela are back together. At least we haven't seen the last of Mr. Gibbons on "Bones".



What makes this show work is that the writers know if Bones, and Booth actually "hook up" it's completely over. If anyone remembers "Moonlighting", or "Cheers", you kill the tension, and the fans get bored. I think the two will eventually become a couple, when the writers, and producers decide to end the show.

vivfox 07-05-2010 09:12 AM

New fan made video
 

vivfox 07-20-2010 10:42 AM

July, 2010
 
I have been thinking a lot today about Fleetwood Mac, rather Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and more specifically Danny Kirwan, who along with Scott Walker (more on this to come soon!) is my current vintage crush. I'm such a sucker for a pair of baby blues poking out from under a floppy fringe. Danny is said to have been an emotional, quite neurotic young man at the time, and was so inspired when playing it would bring him to tears. Forget the weeping though, I do like a chap in a nice tight sweater! I wish I could have found some better pics...

Danny's story is though a rather sad one, after leaving the band in the early 70s and releasing a couple of solo albums he sadly succumbed to the all to familiar downward spiral of alcoholism and has spent the last 30 odd years living in homeless shelters, he was last tracked down a few years ago to a specialist alcoholics clinic in South London.

Like Crying is my favourite song of his and it's been in my head all day, and pretty much sums up how I have been feeling today. I usually feel super depressed on my birthday but this year I was rather cheerful for this first time in years, I think actually the b'day blues have been delayed a week and they've really got to me today.

http://smashingbird.blogspot.com/201...age-crush.html

vivfox 07-23-2010 08:06 AM

Review of the Fleetwood Mac CD Then Play On

The exceptionally talented Rock group Fleetwood Mac have released their CD entitled Then Play On. I am very confident and happy to announce that I believe Fleetwood Mac fans, and Rock fans alike will be pleased with this one. With the release of Then Play On their artistic excellence is on full display as they have once again delivered a brilliant collection of tracks that could very well be their best work to date.

I wish it weren’t the case but, it’s not everyday that I get a CD for review that I can just pop in and comfortably listen to from beginning to end. There is usually a song or two that I just can’t force myself to get through. Not at all the case with Then Play On. Every track is enjoyable and was pretty easy for me to listen to from start to finish.

These days it’s a very rare CD on which every single song is good or better than the one before it. This CD is certainly one of those rare CDs.

If you’re a Fleetwood Mac fan this is a CD your collection flat cannot be without. In fact, this is one of those CDs that you don’t even have to be a fan of lname, or even Rock to know is good. It’s just good music. Period.

While this entire album is really very good the truly standout tunes are track 1 – Coming Your Way, track 7 – Although The Sun Is Shining, and track 13 – Before The Beginning.

My Bonus Pick, and the one that got Sore [...as in "Stuck On REpeat"] is track 13 – Before The Beginning. Great track!

Then Play On Release Notes:

Fleetwood Mac originally released Then Play On on October 25, 1990 on the Reprise label.

CD Track List Follows:

1. Coming Your Way

2. Closing My Eyes

3. Show-Biz Blues

4. My Dream

5. Underway

6. Oh Well

7. Although The Sun Is Shining

8. Rattlesnake Shake

9. Searching For Madge

10. Fighting For Madge

11. When You Say

12. Like Crying

13. Before The Beginning

Fleetwood Mac: Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwin (vocals, guitar); John McVie (bass); Mick Fleetwood (drums). Additional personnel includes: Christine Perfect (background vocals).

http://corywinebarger.storeblogs.com...d-then-play-on

vivfox 07-23-2010 08:20 AM

Some Days, I Just Can't Help Myself
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Revisited

The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes
Friday, July 23, 2010

Several people remarked last month about not only the quality of the playing, but also the fidelity of the recordings on the remastered 'Live In Boston' set that was captured during Fleetwood Mac's incredible three night run at the city's Boston Tea Party in early February of 1970. The tapes were intended for a live recording to captialize on the band's rising popularity here in the States, but were shelved when their leader, Peter Green left the band shortly after they were recorded. Subsequently, the masters sat in the vaults for years until a truncated version was officially released in 1985, and then remastered and re-released in their entirety in 2003.

Of course the Boston Tea Party recordings were widely bootlegged prior to any official release, and with noticably inferior sound. Today however, these recordings stand as the absolute best of the very few live recordings available from Peter Green's Original Fleetwood Mac. I have noted however that Wolfgang's Vault has a few Peter Green era shows available for streaming, but I've yet to hear them for a quality comparison.

As of 2010, the Boston Tea Party tapes have now been issued and reissued under a host of names, most of them variations on 'Boston Tea Party,' or 'Live In Boston.' And now there's one more, 'Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Revisited: The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes.' This one you won't find in stores, or from traders. It's only available here because it was I who edited and condensed the three volume set down to one extraordinary 92 minute set. "But that's already been done," you might say. "And where's the 'Encore Jam' with Joe Walsh and Eric Clapton?" Well, the answer to the first question is, "Yes, it has been done. 'Boston Blues' is it's name." Here's that recordings track sequence:

1) Black Magic Woman
2) Like It This Way
3) Oh Well
4) Jumping At Shadows
5) Stranger Blues
6) Oh Baby
7) Got To Move
8) Rattlesnake Shake
9) World In Harmony
10) Sandy Mary
11) Loving Kind
12) Red Hot Mama
13) I Can't Hold Out
14) The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
15) Encore Jam


And now here's mine:

1) World In Harmony
2) Jumping At Shadows
3) Like It This Way
4) Only You
5) Loving Kind
6) Sandy Mary
7) Rattlesnake Shake
8) Stranger Blues
9) Oh Well
10) Madison Blues
11) Coming Your Way
12) Black Magic Woman
13) The Sun Is Shining
15) The Green Manalishi (With The Two Pronged-Crown)


Most of the same material, but a different running order. A set much like the one that is 'Boston Blues.' That is to say, one that never really transpired, at least not in these particular sequences. Through the magic of editing, a performance is rearranged so as to appear authentically correct. But if you weren't there to remember it (and who really would unless you were sitting there taking notes, at which point you'd immediately be singled out a possible Narcotics Agent and then shunned for the remainder of the evening, not to mention putting everyone around you uptight), then you'd never know the difference.

So getting back to the questions, my answer to the second would be, "Like 'blooze' and 'boogie,' jams are largely irrelavent, typically memorable only in the moment, but rarely thereafter." With regard to the aforementioned 'all-star' jam, imagine this if you will. After a smoldering set, Peter and the band are brought back on stage for an encore. In tow are Joe Walsh and Eric Clapton, a guitar players wet dream. The crowd goes ape ****. The excitement is palpable. Then picture the sound of vomit as played by one bass player, one drummer, and no less that five guitarists. That's the 'Encore Jam.' It's kinda' like that whole Y2K thing ten years ago. Everyone thought it would be armageddon and the world would end. But when the clock struck midnight, it all turned out to be a whole lotta' nothing. The ocean's didn't rise, the Earth didn't go off it's obit, bibles didn't need to be rewritten. It was just another day. That is the 'Encore Jam.' Trust me on this one, O.K.? You're not missing anything.

"So why bother redoing what's already been done," you ask? Good point. All I can say is simply because, "No.#1) I like Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, No.#2) I enjoy audio editing, and No.#3) I thought I could possibly do a better job than on 'Boston Blues,'" plain and simple. And I hope I'm right on that last one. You see, I figure if it were my band, I'd start out with a few low-key numbers just to get warmed up. You know, something to loosen up a bit to get rid of the opening night jitters. Sort of like putting the pot on the stovetop and bringing things to a slow simmer. Then I'd turn up the heat a little with some Danny Kirwan numbers before slipping into the heavy stuff where the juices are starting to flow and you're finally cooking on all four burners. That's why I reshuffled the set list and if I hadn't mentioned it to you, you'd likely accept it as a factual document. Sue me.

Since I'm bound to ruffle the feathers of a few purists out there, I've sweetened the deal by also including Fleetwood Mac's, 'Shrine '69,' recorded a year earlier at Santa Monica's Shrine Auditorium. It should make for a good comparison to the Boston Tea Party performances, although it too can stand on its own as a great document of the band's power during the Peter Green era. That's the deal. Take it, or leave it. But either way, enjoy it.

The Best Of The Boston Tea Party Tapes

1) World In Harmony
(from Volume Two)
2) Jumping At Shadows
(from Volume One)
3) Like It This Way
(from Volume One)
4) Only You
(from Volume One)
5) Loving Kind
(from Volume Three)
6) Sandy Mary
(from Volume Three)
7) Rattlesnake Shake
(from Volume Two)*
8) Stranger Blues
(from Volume Two)
9) Oh Well
(from Volume Two)
10) Madison Blues
(from Volume Three)
11) Coming Your Way
(from Volume Three)
12) Black Magic Woman
(from Volume One)
13) The Sun Is Shining
(from Volume Three)
14) The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Pronged Crown)
(from Volume One)

*The rendition of 'Rattlesnake Snake' on Volume One is actually a better performance, but it's faded out on the official recording. On the other hand, Volume Two's version is a complete one, thus it's inclusion here despite being the lesser performance of the two. I originally attempted merging the best of both into one giant Frankenstein track, but after seven unsuccessful tries, I decided that it wasn't worth reinventing the wheel. However, I've already done that, haven't I? Oh well.

Shrine '69

1) Tune Up
2) If You Be My Baby
3) Something Inside Of Me
4) My Sweet Baby
5) Albatross
6) Before The Beginning
7) Rollin' Man
8) Lemon Squeezer
9) Need Your Love So Bad

http://birdswithbrokenwings2.blogspo...lp-myself.html

doodyhead 07-23-2010 08:58 AM

the missing
 
I notice that on your list for shrine 69 you did not include the missing track "Blue Suade Shoes"

Since there are doubles to many of the tracks on the te4 party recordings, which ones did you choose besides rattlesnake shake?

doodyhead, mel and vinnie

vivfox 07-23-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 901822)
I notice that on your list for shrine 69 you did not include the missing track "Blue Suade Shoes"

It's not my list. It came from the web.

slipkid 07-26-2010 01:11 AM

Why does everyone miss the Vol. 3 version of "Jumping At Shadows"? It maybe the best single recorded track from the three nights in Boston. It's shorter than the other two, yet it defines in a 4:50 nutshell why Peter Green is so beloved today, at least by this poster.

The reason why Peter Green should stand out over his contemporaries, is his use of dynamics in a live setting. Pete Townshend, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, and Jerry Garcia were all using dynamics in a live setting at the time. Yet nothing approaches how Peter Green conducted Fleetwood Mac during the late winter/early spring of 1970.

Does anyone notice the "fade outs" of "Black Magic Woman" from Boston '70 are not studio fade-outs, but pure band discipline? No other band from the states, or the U.K. was doing that at the time. For years I thought The Who's "Live at Leeds" was a snapshot into the best live rock music ever made. I'm now convinced it's Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac from 1/70-5/28/70.


There's a stray Boston "Black Magic Woman" on the 2CD "Jumping At Shadows", it is the best version I've heard.

Evan Morris 07-27-2010 11:44 AM

Boston - Night Three
 
I couldn't agree more, the night three version of Jumping At Shadows is the most intense, the most direct of the three nights. I like the other two as well, they are more intricate but there is a slight feeling of desperation about night three.

The version of Black Magic Woman with the live fade out has always been my favorite. I've been told that BMW was recorded on all three nights, and that the live fade out is actually night one from the Boston Tea-Party performances. The version that was released as night one, is in fact night two. There was also a night three, but it was scrapped due to tape damage juring the re-mastering process. I've looked and listened for other bands from that era or any, and I haven't yet found one that used a live fade out.
According to Peter's introduction, he had only performed the song live, twice before. This would have been pre-Kirwan, and as much as I like the Green-Kirwan jam versions of this song, I would have liked to hear how Peter played it live, alone, just after it was written.

slipkid 07-28-2010 07:14 AM

Black Magic Woman at the Roundhouse 4/70
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Morris (Post 902435)
I couldn't agree more, the night three version of Jumping At Shadows is the most intense, the most direct of the three nights. I like the other two as well, they are more intricate but there is a slight feeling of desperation about night three.

The version of Black Magic Woman with the live fade out has always been my favorite. I've been told that BMW was recorded on all three nights, and that the live fade out is actually night one from the Boston Tea-Party performances. The version that was released as night one, is in fact night two. There was also a night three, but it was scrapped due to tape damage juring the re-mastering process. I've looked and listened for other bands from that era or any, and I haven't yet found one that used a live fade out.
According to Peter's introduction, he had only performed the song live, twice before. This would have been pre-Kirwan, and as much as I like the Green-Kirwan jam versions of this song, I would have liked to hear how Peter played it live, alone, just after it was written.

Since the Fleetwood Mac PR machine want to make us believe that Peter Green was lobotamized 3/70 in Munich, the "I've Got a Good Mind to Give Up Living" from Stockholm 4/1/70, and "Black Magic Woman", from the Roundhouse in London 4/24/70..Green's last live performance in London, didn't happen. Yet both performances are the best I've ever heard from ANY guitar player, including Jimi Hendrix . Now that the world has Youtube everything has changed.
If you love "Black Magic Woman", listen to this version....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaPWQkdJ2nI



This is the Stockholm version of "I've Got a Good Mind to Give Up Living". Come on dino, tell that isn't one of the best electric guitar solos of ALL TIME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ytgYYZuLs


Thanks for the clarification of BMW from Boston Evan. As for pre-Kirwan, there is that "Worried Dream" from San Francisco.(recorded by Bear, it sounds like an Owsley Stanley production, I'm only guessing but the "sound" of the recording says Bear) This is FM's first visit to the states on Youtube. It's certainly before Green did LSD, and is it ever intense!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57gogeTtZtQ

Evan Morris 07-28-2010 01:09 PM

He was the best.
 
Although I have always thought that debating the question of who was the greatest player from that era or any other was somewhat futile given personal taste, etc.. A guitar player freind of mine once told me that to make an honest judgement on this subject, you would have to listen to 300-400 players satarting with Mister Johnson and freinds up to the time when computer technology changed most everything, 1975 or so..

Well, thanks to Youtube I have managed to listen to most of those 400 players and still I haven't found anyone that was in Peter's class at that time, not Henrix, Clapton, Beck, not even Buddy Guy. I thought maybe I would find his equal in the Jazz world, but here as well, I just can't find any player that is or was on the same level, close, but no cigar.

Thanks Slipkid for the Youtube links. I have heard the Round House and Stockholm versions on Youtube but they are the only boots that I have not yet aquired. I have the Carousel Ballroom boot with Worried Dream and yes it is stunning. Your comment about Owlsley is interesting, I've wondered who taped that show as it was pre Dinky Dawson.

Wouter Vuijk 07-29-2010 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Morris (Post 902640)
Thanks Slipkid for the Youtube links. I have heard the Round House and Stockholm versions on Youtube but they are the only boots that I have not yet aquired. I have the Carousel Ballroom boot with Worried Dream and yes it is stunning.

I sent you a private message :nod:

slipkid 07-29-2010 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Morris (Post 902640)
Although I have always thought that debating the question of who was the greatest player from that era or any other was somewhat futile given personal taste, etc.. A guitar player Friend of mine once told me that to make an honest judgment on this subject, you would have to listen to 300-400 players starting with Mister Johnson and Friends up to the time when computer technology changed most everything, 1975 or so..

Well, thanks to You tube I have managed to listen to most of those 400 players and still I haven't found anyone that was in Peter's class at that time, not Henrix, Clapton, Beck, not even Buddy Guy. I thought maybe I would find his equal in the Jazz world, but here as well, I just can't find any player that is or was on the same level, close, but no cigar.

Thanks Slipkid for the Youtube links. I have heard the Round House and Stockholm versions on Youtube but they are the only boots that I have not yet acquired. I have the Carousel Ballroom boot with Worried Dream and yes it is stunning. Your comment about Owlsley is interesting, I've wondered who taped that show as it was pre Dinky Dawson.

We should be good friends!! You just typed what I've been trying to express since I re-discovered Peter Green two years ago. As a rule I hate rock/blues guitar players, of any generation, unless it's a certain handful :-). In the jazz world, there's Grant Green, and Wes Montgomery, and my mother's Charlie Byrd. I could never hate them.

I'm a year short of 40, and for the first time in my life (age 37), I FINALLY found the best rock/blues guitarist ever,or should it be finally "heard" him. I already had his work with Mayall, and the BBC live FM CD's. Peter Green's guitar playing makes me want to forget that Clapton, Jimi, SRV, Page, Beck, Blackmore, and Townshend ever existed. Thanks to hearing Peter Green in a different light, I've come to appreciate guitarists like David Gilmour. I also think Jerry Miller deserves serious accolades.

Actually that's a little harsh, I still love EC with Mayall, and Cream. I also like old Pete Townshend before he smashed his hand in '92/'93. Mick Ronson., should be mentioned.

vivfox 07-29-2010 09:34 AM

Future Games Reviews
 
by Greg Brady
On July 30, 2010 at 5:15 pm
.The liner notes tell some of the tale, detailing 4 new members since the band’s beginning only 4 years earlier (Peter Green left in 1969, Jeremy Spencer in 1970, Christine McVie and Bob Welch are the new bandmates here), and a search for a new direction musically.

The band’s push toward a softer rock begins here, most of the tracks being moody and languid. Making the pacing this way means the album lives or dies on the strength of the lyrics and in this case, there are about 3 too many Danny Kirwan songs sinking the proceedings. “Woman of 1000 Years” and “Sometimes” are dreadful. With a better lyric, “Sands of Time” would be outstanding, but the meandering pretentious lyric renders the song mediocre. “What a Shame” is another uninteresting instrumental.

The best tunes here are Bob Welch’s Biblical potboiler “Lay it All Down” which shows the strongest hook appeal of any of the songs, the wistful title track (which is the only song here to wax philosophical and benefit from it), and Christine’s “Show me A Smile”.

This is definitely one to only pick up used and only if you’re a diehard FM fan. The band has some good pre-Buckingham/Nicks material but this isn’t the place to find it.
Rating: 2 / 5


by Anonymous
On July 30, 2010 at 5:42 pm
.I am a avid FM fan, and honestly, I can’t listen to this album. I love the Pete Green Era, and the Lindsey/Stevie era. But this doesn’t even stack up to Bare trees. Likely the least listened too album in my FM collection.
Rating: 2 / 5


by A. Calabrese
On July 30, 2010 at 6:22 pm
.The Future Games LP by Fleetwood Mac was released at the end of FM’s blues era. Peter Green had long left the band. Guitarist/singer Jeremy Spencer went joined a religious commune, and Danny Kirwin was on his way to total meltdown. And, while the band, tried to fill in the gaps with the addition of Christine Perfect aka McVie and Bob Welch they just couldn’t get back what was lost. If the preceeding Kiln House and Bare Trees LPs are classics, Future Games just comes off as a contractural obligation piece. There are no strong songs here. Much on this album, like Woman of 1,000 Years, Sands of Time, and Show Me A Smile, are nice to listen too, there is nothing memorable here. If you are an Fleetwood Mac fan, than pick up the CD to fill in the blanks. FM’s transition from a rock/blues band to a pop band was not a smooth one, and it shows on Future Games.
Rating: 3 / 5


by Brian D. Rubendall
On July 30, 2010 at 8:22 pm
.Most people know little about the music Fleetwood Mac produced before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham arrived in the mid-70s and transformed them into hitmaking superstars. But the seeds of the band’s later megasuccess began to be sown on “Future Games.” Christine McVie had only recently signed on, and her impact was immediately felt on “Show Me a Smile,” in which she can be heard laying the foundations for the hits she would write later. Of the rest of the songs, the highlights are “Woman of 1000 Years,” the title track and “Sands of Time.”

The album’s main drawback is that the band often sounds chilly and remote, a stark contrast to the melodic warmth of their later classics. Also, guitarist-singer Bob Welch, who Buckingham later replaced, never really fit in with the band’s style. The CD booklet contains no lyrics sheet, but does have a short biography on each performer and a full page of detailed liner notes that were penned when the album was released on CD.

Overall, a solid if unspectacular early album from a band that would later go on to much larger success.
Rating: 3 / 5


by Ian D. Macintyre
On July 30, 2010 at 9:00 pm
.This album was recorded during the period when Peter Green had long since departed and Buckingham and Nicks were unknowns playing the So Cal club circuit. Danny Kirwan is the driving force on this album just as Lindsey would be on Rumours 6 years later. With the additions of Bob Welch and Christine McVie, the seeds are sown for the band’s move from English blues to the mellow rock that would garmer success for them a half-decade later. A great album. However, some songs run on too long.
Rating: 4 / 5

http://xtechblog.com/future-games/

Evan Morris 07-29-2010 02:00 PM

Great Players
 
It sounds like we are on the page Slipkid. In my opinion they are all great players, past and present. I think that anyone from that era that has been called a Guitar God,
Guitar Hero, Wizard, etc., is deserving of the title, they are all great players in their own way.
Still...
I haven't found anyone that appears to have the same emotional, even spiritual connection to the music that Peter has.
Perhaps it's Peter's humble nature or lack of ego that allows him to connect so easily, so thouroughly. For me, this is what seperates him from the others.
I like your selection of players, especially Mills, Ronson, and Grant Green.
I actually have the Moby Grape albun WOW on vinyl that was given to me by a freind when I was about 12 years old or so. Must dig it out a give it a listen, probably haven't heard it in twenty five years, should be interesting.
I've always liked Ronson's work with Bowie, and Grant Green, like Peter, was one the most underrated players in history.

vivfox 07-30-2010 08:28 AM

2TheAdvocate
Wayne Goldsmith says, “My future wife and I were also at the concert at Independence Hall that had Rory Gallagher, Pot Liquor and Fleetwood Mac. ...
http://www.2theadvocate.com/columnists/99603259.html

chiliD 07-30-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Morris (Post 902904)
I haven't found anyone that appears to have the same emotional, even spiritual connection to the music that Peter has.

Only one in my book....Duane Allman. Too bad that other than only playing together when they'd both sit in with the Grateful Dead at the same time, they never worked together besides that...I think there would've been some damned fine music come out of a Duane Allman/Peter Green collaboration. We've all seen what Duane did for Clapton's career.

Evan Morris 07-30-2010 01:40 PM

Sky Dog
 
It's hard to disagree with your comments regarding Duane Allman. I have fantasized about Duane and Peter playing in the same band, it would have been mind blowing to be sure.
I still feel that Peter's musical connection was stronger, but of course we never got the chance to hear how Duane may have developed musically. A tragic loss still felt by many...

sharksfan2000 07-30-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 903048)
Only one in my book....Duane Allman. Too bad that other than only playing together when they'd both sit in with the Grateful Dead at the same time, they never worked together besides that...I think there would've been some damned fine music come out of a Duane Allman/Peter Green collaboration. We've all seen what Duane did for Clapton's career.

There have been rumors for years that a recording exists of just such a collaboration, but nothing has ever come to light, so the rumors may or may not any truth behind them: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=15619

slipkid 07-31-2010 12:07 AM

Sky Dog, and Greeny
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Morris (Post 903052)
It's hard to disagree with your comments regarding Duane Allman. I have fantasized about Duane and Peter playing in the same band, it would have been mind blowing to be sure.
I still feel that Peter's musical connection was stronger, but of course we never got the chance to hear how Duane may have developed musically. A tragic loss still felt by many...

If anyone can find the 11/70 New Orleans Warehouse recording of a three hour "Mountain Jam". The song began around midnight, and ended around 3 A.M.. You'll then have your answer. I fear that hurricane Katrina may have destroyed hidden gems tucked away in many attics.

The closest recorded evidence we have is that 2/11/70 Grateful Dead Fillmore East performance (second set) with Peter Green, and Duane Allman jamming to "Dark Star", and "Turn On Your Lovelight". Yet because Owsley Stanley is doing his best not to let two far and way beyond guitar talents upstage the regular members of the Dead, Green gets mixed out, as does Duane at times.

vivfox 08-06-2010 06:12 PM

This is old news but it may be new to you
 
Miss Kristin Puts a New Spin on Early Fleetwood Mac Favorites with "A Miss Kristin Mac Attack"
Not one to follow the crowd but known for paving the way via her undeniable originality, Miss Kristin strikes again with her impressive take on early Fleetwood Mac songs for both young and old to enjoy.

Putting a new spin on old favorites like "Emerald Eyes" and "Did You Ever Love Me", Miss Kristin croons her favorite early Fleetwood Mac songs in a reggae style production that brings new life and love to old favorites many may have never been introduced to otherwise. The songs may be a mystery to some, but to countless others, Miss Kristin is assisting in remembering an earlier time, with her demonstrative and emotive vocals.

Due to be released in September 2009 on the Big Fuss Records label, Miss Kristin enchants with these ten carefully selected tracks, from one of the greatest bands of our time (Fleetwood Mac) prior to their Stevie Nicks days. This is a top-notch collection of eclectic and classic songs that pays homage to this great band and their music created in the seventies.

Positioned beautifully in accordance with Christine McVie's sensual vocal style Miss Kristin re-creates favorites like "Spare Me A Little" and "Why" with new sincerity and strength. Touched by the greatness of classics like "Crazy Love", "Dissatisfied" and "The Way I Feel", Miss Kristin handles much of her own instrumentation, creating drum programming, playing the acoustic guitar and keyboards for all songs. Kristin features the expressive and talented reggae artist Emmanuel Sallasie on backing vocals and electric guitar for "Emerald Eyes", "The Derelict" and "Did You Ever Love Me" as well as some acoustic lead style guitar on "Bare Trees". And as with other more recent Miss Kristin releases, Kristin again features the exceptional Tom Landry on bass guitar for the entire collection. Erick Thorton makes two guest appearances with his tuneful harmonica on "Child Of Mine" as well as "The Derelict".

While "A Miss Kristin Mac Attack" will potentially manifest nostalgia, it triumphs in creating a fresh new beginning for these ten top drawer selections. Miss Kristin's Mac Attack features tender heartfelt melodies and riffs that remain and exist; weaving through your head long after the song has ended. This is a classic collection that will prevail as one of the masterpieces of the Miss Kristin catalog presenting itself in light of greatness for years to come.

Produced at 2High2Die Studios in Campbell, CA "A Miss Kristin Mac Attack" is a Big Fuss Records release and will be a digital only release initially. Look for it on iTunes and Amazon.com as well as EMusic, Rhapsody and wherever fine digital downloads are sold.

Contact:
Miss Manor
Big Fuss Records
408-871-9135
www.misskristin.com
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vivfox 08-07-2010 10:13 PM


vivfox 08-10-2010 08:49 AM

Tuesday, August 10, 2010
Tramp - Tramp (1969)


Tramp – Tramp

Music Man SMLS 603 (U.K. 1969)

BOB BRUNNING bass
MICK FLEETWOOD drums
BOB HALL keyboards
DAVE KELLY vocals
JO ANNE KELLY vocals
DANNY KIRWAN guitar
DAVE BROOKS saxophone
IAN MORTON percussions

This was a great assembly of Fleetwood Mac alumni Bob Brunning on bass, Danny Kirwan on guitar and Mick Fleetwood on drums and they are rounded out nicely by Brunning's long time partner in crime Bob Hall (both played in Savoy Brown) on piano and Dave & Jo Ann Kelly on vocals (though under fake names due to legal reasons). Inspired playing and material set this platter alight. The rocking galloper "Own up" gets us started on perfect footing with Dave and Jo Ann dueling it out on lead vocals while Kirwan's rough guitar keeps the energy going along with great drum fills by Fleetwood and Brunning holds up his end well, a real highlight.

Other rocking moments are Danny's guitar instrumental spotlight called "Hard work" which is a fierce shuffle and Bob Hall has some of his most meaningful ivory licks added to this one. This is probably the longest Kirwan has soloed on his own on record to date though the slow "Street walking blues" often gets overlooked in this regard as Kirwan solos for well over a full minute towards the end of the track here and it's a gut wrencher that keeps you begging for more. If I have any complaint about this record, it's just that the late great Jo Ann Kelly is perhaps under used here as though she does a great job as mentioned on the opening cut, it sounds like she's really only on two other tracks here which are the great mopey classic blueser "Baby what you want me to do" handled perfectly here by all concerned and the catchy slight chunky funk of "On the scene" though again, accompanied by "little brother Dave". This turns out to be a minor quibble though as Dave lays down some great vocals on the rest of the tracks. The light plinky shuffle of "Same old thing", the effective stroll of "What you gonna do when the road comes through", the piano led boogie of "Somebody watching me", a piano and vocal only moaner called "Too late now", another piano led ballad called "Month of Sundays" (though it also includes a finger snapping jazz feel with Danny's delicate guitar strums keeping it successfully in this vein) and the well put together closing sing a long "Another day".

These explanations I have attempted to give here hardly do justice to the great sound this group have put out for us here as I find it a mix of blues and rock that is not bettered in many other albums if any. Also impressive is that Brunning is credited with co writing all tracks here except the Kirwan guitar work out discussed above and the great straight ahead blues highlight here "Baby what you want me to do" and I would say this album would rank as a highlight in the respective discography of all 3 Mac members here to date.

01 Own Up (2:49)
02 Same Old Thing (2:06)
03 What You Gonna Do (2:53)
04 Somebody Watching Me (2:59)
05 Too Late Mow (2:43)
06 Baby, What You Want Me to Do (4:11)
07 Street Walking Blues (3:19)
08 On the Scene (2:47)
09 Month of Sundays (3:42)
10 Hard Work (4:23)
11 Another Day (2:11)

Artwork Included

This is not a Cousin-Mike rip ; it was sent to us by a visitor. The source is probably CGR – Credits to Chris.

http://cousin-mike.blogspot.com/2010...ramp-1969.html

PenguinHead 08-10-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 905114)
Tuesday, August 10, 2010
Tramp - Tramp (1969)


Tramp – Tramp

Music Man SMLS 603 (U.K. 1969)

BOB BRUNNING bass
MICK FLEETWOOD drums
BOB HALL keyboards
DAVE KELLY vocals
JO ANNE KELLY vocals
DANNY KIRWAN guitar
DAVE BROOKS saxophone
IAN MORTON percussions

This was a great assembly of Fleetwood Mac alumni Bob Brunning on bass, Danny Kirwan on guitar and Mick Fleetwood on drums and they are rounded out nicely by Brunning's long time partner in crime Bob Hall (both played in Savoy Brown) on piano and Dave & Jo Ann Kelly on vocals (though under fake names due to legal reasons). Inspired playing and material set this platter alight. The rocking galloper "Own up" gets us started on perfect footing with Dave and Jo Ann dueling it out on lead vocals while Kirwan's rough guitar keeps the energy going along with great drum fills by Fleetwood and Brunning holds up his end well, a real highlight.

Other rocking moments are Danny's guitar instrumental spotlight called "Hard work" which is a fierce shuffle and Bob Hall has some of his most meaningful ivory licks added to this one. This is probably the longest Kirwan has soloed on his own on record to date though the slow "Street walking blues" often gets overlooked in this regard as Kirwan solos for well over a full minute towards the end of the track here and it's a gut wrencher that keeps you begging for more. If I have any complaint about this record, it's just that the late great Jo Ann Kelly is perhaps under used here as though she does a great job as mentioned on the opening cut, it sounds like she's really only on two other tracks here which are the great mopey classic blueser "Baby what you want me to do" handled perfectly here by all concerned and the catchy slight chunky funk of "On the scene" though again, accompanied by "little brother Dave". This turns out to be a minor quibble though as Dave lays down some great vocals on the rest of the tracks. The light plinky shuffle of "Same old thing", the effective stroll of "What you gonna do when the road comes through", the piano led boogie of "Somebody watching me", a piano and vocal only moaner called "Too late now", another piano led ballad called "Month of Sundays" (though it also includes a finger snapping jazz feel with Danny's delicate guitar strums keeping it successfully in this vein) and the well put together closing sing a long "Another day".

These explanations I have attempted to give here hardly do justice to the great sound this group have put out for us here as I find it a mix of blues and rock that is not bettered in many other albums if any. Also impressive is that Brunning is credited with co writing all tracks here except the Kirwan guitar work out discussed above and the great straight ahead blues highlight here "Baby what you want me to do" and I would say this album would rank as a highlight in the respective discography of all 3 Mac members here to date.

01 Own Up (2:49)
02 Same Old Thing (2:06)
03 What You Gonna Do (2:53)
04 Somebody Watching Me (2:59)
05 Too Late Mow (2:43)
06 Baby, What You Want Me to Do (4:11)
07 Street Walking Blues (3:19)
08 On the Scene (2:47)
09 Month of Sundays (3:42)
10 Hard Work (4:23)
11 Another Day (2:11)

Artwork Included

This is not a Cousin-Mike rip ; it was sent to us by a visitor. The source is probably CGR – Credits to Chris.

http://cousin-mike.blogspot.com/2010...ramp-1969.html

I'm intriqued! How does one download it?

vivfox 08-10-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 905226)
I'm intriqued! How does one download it?

I didn't see a dl link either. Oh Well.

Wouter Vuijk 08-11-2010 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 905233)
I didn't see a dl link either. Oh Well.

Try this one:
http://fleetwoodmacmusic.blogspot.co...Bob%20Brunning

vivfox 08-13-2010 11:51 AM

The other talented Rock group Fleetwood Mac have released their CD entitled Bare Trees. I am very confident and happy to announce that I believe Fleetwood Mac fans, and Rock fans alike will be pleased with this one. With the release of Bare Trees their artistic excellence is on full display as they have once again delivered a brilliant collection of tracks that could very well be their best work to date.

one that will grab your attention right out of the gate has Child Of Mine and allow to go until the last note of the last song Thoughts On a Grey Day, which is another great track by the system.

The day This is a very rare CD where every single song is good or better than the one before it. This CD is definitely one of those rare CDs.

The total bare tree is outstanding from beginning to end. One of the CD after listening to some songs are just etched into your memory. A must have for Rock fans. Really spectacular from beginning to end.

While the entire CD is really very good some of my favorites are track 1 – Child Of Mine, track 3 – Homeward Bound, and track 8 – to forgive Me A Little Of Your Love

My Bonus Pick, and the one that got Sore [... as in "proud On Repeat"] is track 10 – Thoughts On A Grey Day. This is a great track!

Bare Trees Release Notes:

Fleetwood Mac originally released bare tree on October 25, 1990 reprise label.

CD Track List Follows:

1. I kid
2. Ghost, The
3. Homeward Bound
4. Sunny Side Of Heaven
5. Bare Trees
6. Sentimental Mother
7. Danny's singing
8. Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
9. Dust
10. Thoughts On A Grey Day

Fleetwood Mac: Danny Kirwin, Bob Welch (Vocals, Guitar), Christine McVie (vocals, keyboards), John McVie (Bass), Mick Fleetwood (drums).

http://www.sonnybruce.com/ghost-note-drums/

vivfox 09-10-2010 08:14 PM

Fleetwood Mac – “Hypnotised (Hypnotic re-edit)” « DJ Cold Duck
By djcoldduck
A sometimes successful, sometimes rather rough, remix of the ancient Fleetwood Mac tune (that is, 1973, from a brief period after Peter Green but before Stevie Nicks). Here I sped up the original, fattened the bottom, and then worked in ...
DJ Cold Duck - http://djcoldduck.wordpress.com/

vivfox 09-13-2010 12:50 PM

Musical epicentre – a guide to 60s Soho | The Vintage Guide to London
By Lena
It was here that John McVie (of Fleetwood Mac) proposed to Christine Perfect (also of Fleetwood Mac), and where Paul McCartney first set eyes upon upon his future wife Linda Eastman. Map. The Marquee, Wardour St ...
The Vintage Guide to London - http://www.thevintageguidetolondon.com/

vivfox 09-17-2010 12:33 PM

Dave Walker Band's new CD 'refreshing'

Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 2:11 pm, Thu Sep 16, 2010. RACHEL HERGETT, Chronicle Staff Writer | 0 comments

Dave Walker may be a legend in his own right, but in "Crazy All The Time" he allows the rest of the Dave Walker Band a chance to shine.

Many of the songs on the album released July 17, are slower, losing the hard-driving edge of Walkers previous work with Savoy Brown and Fleetwood Mac.

"Talk of the Town," for example, delves into psychedelic rock, with an expanded intro and licks reminiscent of Pink Floyd. Then the track shifts and Walker himself is suddenly Jim Morrison, fronting The Doors through the drug-addled ‘70s.

It's refreshing.

Still, the Dave Walker Band is probably at it's best in the full-on blues tune "Mr. Shame Shame," showcasing both Chris Cundy's abilities on the keys and the reason Walker is known as "the voice" - his vocals perfecting the rawness expected of the genre.

"Crazy All The Time" is one of those albums that keeps you listening, that grabs your attention and holds it because of its variety but with just enough common musicality to remain congruent.

The Bozeman-based Dave Walker Band is Jim Lewis on guitar, Eddie T. on bass and Mike Gillan on drums, along with Cundy and Walker.

Rachel Hergett may be reached at rhergett@dailychronicle.com or 582-2603.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com...cc4c002e0.html

vivfox 09-18-2010 10:21 PM

Review of the Fleetwood Mac CD Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac released their most recent CD entitled Heroes Are Hard To Find.

Fleetwood Mac have been a heavy hitters in the Rock genre for quite a while now and Heroes Are Hard To Find is an excellent illustration as to why.

Heroes Are Hard To Find is a pleasantly varied, mix of 11 tracks that are very well written and brilliantly performed songs by these clearly talented musicians. With many of the songs displaying a lot of the kind emotion that makes for a really great listen. Seemingly drawing from what I can only imagine are their own personal experiences. At different points touching on the most real emotions of love, heartbreak, pain, failed relationships and unattainable romance. They’re all here.

Listen to Heroes Are Hard To Find and I believe you’ll find there’s not much to dis-like about it. The songs are inspired, the production is simply outstanding, and this is clearly the work of a group of musicians in top form. So much so that if you’re even mildly into Rock music you’ll enjoy this CD.

While the entire CD is outstanding the truly standout tunes are track 2 – Coming Home, track 9 – Prove Your Love, and track 11 – Safe Horbour.

My Bonus Pick, and the one that got Sore [...as in "Stuck On REpeat"] is track 1 – Heroes Are Hard To Find. Outstanding!

Heroes Are Hard To Find Release Notes:

Fleetwood Mac originally released Heroes Are Hard To Find on October 25, 1990 on the Reprise label.

CD Track List Follows:

1. Heroes Are Hard To Find 2. Coming Home 3. Angel 4. Bermuda Triangle 5. Come A Little Bit Closer 6. She’s Changing Me 7. Bad Loser 8. Silver Heels 9. Prove Your Love 10. Born Enchanter 11. Safe Horbour

Fleetwood Mac: Bob Welch (vocals, guitar, vibraphone); Christine McVie (vocals, keyboards, Arp string synthesizer); John McVie (bass); Mick Fleetwood (drums, percussion). Additional personnel: Pete Kleinow (pedal steel guitar). Recorded at Angel City Sound, Los Angeles, California in July 1974.

http://sherrybates.easyworldwidemall...-hard-to-find/

vivfox 09-21-2010 10:57 AM

September 21, 2010
 
UK versus USA: Reasons Why America Doesn’t Make Music As Good As We Do

The UK version of Fleetwood Mac had it all. It had the best guitar players and the biggest drug-****ery. The US version pretty much survived their bouts with cocaine, reuniting every-so-often to play AOR for men and women in slacks. The UK version of Fleetwood Mac pretty much disintegrated in a cloud of weed smoke and melted their brains with super potent acid dished out by weird German cults. The tunes were better too.

http://www.hecklerspray.com/uk-versu.../201051135.php

vivfox 09-23-2010 06:42 AM

Review: Sandi Thom, The Globe, Cardiff
Sep 23 2010 by Our Correspondent, South Wales Echo

SANDI Thom, the singer-songwriter who achieved fame in 2006 after performing live over the web from her London basement flat, provided the new noise insulation at the Globe with as demanding a test as it will receive.

Thom may have made her name with I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker (With Flowers in My Hair), but her first two albums were largely acoustic affairs.

Since leaving Sony and setting up her own label, the Scot has abandoned commercialism and immersed herself in the Blues.

Her 15-song set was largely made up of tracks from her new LP, Merchants and Thieves, embellished by Animals and Fleetwood Mac covers and a heavier version of Punk Rocker, but if the quality of the songs was high, so was the volume.

At times it was like sitting in a car with the loud button pressed and the bass turned to maximum.

The floor upstairs vibrated and ears popped.

Thom only went acoustic for one song, the first encore, Fleetwood Mac’s Need Your Love So Bad. Too Bad.

Thom was part of a six-piece band, two guitars, bass, drums and keyboards supplemented by a tambourine-waving support singer.

The keyboards were drowned out and the vocals were too often beaten by the drums.

It was certainly a departure from her first two albums – Smile… It Confuses People, and The Pink & the Lily, following the trail taken by Chris Rea, though he made a dozen mainstream LPs before picking up his Blues guitar.

The evening compared somewhat unfavourably to bluesman Rea’s concert in Cardiff’s St David’s Hall, a couple of years ago, when the sound levels were spot on and the vocals did not compete with instruments.

Anyone wanting to hear the real Thom should listen to Maggie McCall on Merchants and Thieves.

It’s Americana with a hint of Scotland.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/showbiz...1466-27322555/

vivfox 09-26-2010 09:23 AM

Alphonse Mouzon | Music, CD's, Records, Cassettes
By admin
Stretch also toured the US as the bogus Fleetwood Mac during the early 70's. I could list several others that I feel deserve more recognition, many of which would be a tad too obscure for most... There's a few anyways. ...
Music, CD's, Records, Cassettes - http://www.originalrecordsos7.com/


What is your favorite Fleetwood Mac Album w/ Peter Green? » Green ...
By admin
I really like Fleetwood Mac with Green and Welch…. what's your favorite album with Peter Green? ALso, favorite song by.
Musical Multimedia - http://www.musicalmultimedia.com/

michelej1 09-28-2010 04:51 PM

Trev Wilkinson talks about V100 Icon Lemon Drop guitar on Songnetworks website:

http://www.songnetworks.org/vintage-...ectric-guitar/

Still got the blues? Trev’s V100 “Lemon Drop” is a real tribute. “When I was young and in a band, we supported the original Fleetwood Mac to play at a gig we’d organised. Fleetwood Mac let us use their PA, and Peter Green even let me use his amp! He wouldn’t let me use his guitar but he was always my favourite guitarist….”

vivfox 09-28-2010 09:51 PM

September 28th, 2010 • 16:09
Review of the Fleetwood Mac CD Mystery To Me

Not sure what鈥檚 happening with me on this one, but it seems like the more I listen to it, the better Mystery To Me gets. Mystery To Me simply stated is one of their best CDs to date.

Fleetwood Mac have been a heavy hitters in the Rock genre for quite some time now and Mystery To Me is an excellent illustration as to why.

Mystery To Me has a nicely varied, mix of 12 tracks that are very well written and brilliantly performed songs by these clearly superb musicians. With many of the songs displaying a lot of the kind emotion that makes for a really great listen. Clearly drawing from what I can only imagine are their own real life experiences. At different points touching on the most real emotions of love, heartbreak, pain, failed relationships and unattainable romance. Theyare all here.

Overall Mystery To Me is an outstanding release. What I call must have music
I give it two thumbs up and is most definitely a worthy addition to any Rock collection. Truly an outstanding Rock CD. One of those that is completely void of any wasted time, as each track is simply superb.

While the entire CD is really very good some of my favorites are track 3 – Just Crazy Love, track 6 – Keep On Going, and track 12 – Why

My Bonus Pick, and the one that got Sore [...as in "Stuck On REpeat"] is track 1 – Emerald Eyes. Great track!


http://colin.ilikehandbag.com/2010/0...mystery-to-me/

vivfox 10-03-2010 08:36 PM

...In between dosages of Grateful Dead, I supercharged with some early Fleetwood Mac. In their late 60s and early 70s incarnations, the Dead and the Mac seem to complement each other nicely. It's not that they sound alike. Nobody sounds like the Grateful Dead. I hate it when people find out that I'm a head and assume that I'll also like New Riders of the Purple Sage, or Quicksilver, or Hot Tuna, or Little Feat. I don't like any of that stuff. I don't like 'jam bands' per se. I like bands with great songs, and if they happen to throw some good jamming into the mix then that's great, but the jamming itself is almost never what draws me in to, say, the Allman Brothers or Jefferson Airplane.

I don't really get Phish. They sound like muzak to me - stoner muzak for college kids. It's not my thing at all.

The Dead are a completely distinct animal, though there are records you can play alongside live Dead music that go really well. Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac would be in this category for me, and maybe even two or three albums after Peter Green left the band. Then Play On, Fleetwood Mac's masterpiece from 1970, might just be the greatest guitar album ever made, though not in an ostentatious way. The playing is in fact quite understated when it needs to be. Their approach to music is similar in my mind to Richard Thompson. He is a phenomenal guitar player, but he doesn't feel like he has to beat you ever the head with it.

Sometimes it's what isn't played or what's left to the listener's imagination that counts just as much as what what is played. Don't mistake what I'm saying. There's furiously slashing interplay between Peter Green and Danny Kirwan throughout the Then Play On, but it's never showy, always just exactly right in setting the proper mood and vibe. I'm fascinated by Fleetwood Mac and want to say more about them
at some point when I get my **** together...

http://lalonelyone.blogspot.com/2010/10/fragments.html

vivfox 10-05-2010 12:40 AM

BluesonaMonday - Gordon Smith
By inrumford
Fans of that early FLEETWOOD MAC sound will flip for the version of J.B. Lenoir's "I've Been Down So Long" which has both JOHN McVIE and MICK FLEETWOOD on it. Their rhythm section work perfectly compliments this really cool blues ...
MOG - Blogs for inrumford - http://mog.com/inrumford

vivfox 10-05-2010 12:41 AM

SKAMANCHACKETT: PETER GREEN'S FLEETWOOD MAC : Marquee Club, 15/8/67
By Skamanc
Following their Windsor debut, the Mac made their club circuit debut @ the Marquee on August 15th 1967. Here is another quite muddy audience reording. Bass & drums are generally inaudible, though in Mick Fleetwood's case, ...
SKAMANCHACKETT - http://skamanchackett.blogspot.com/

vivfox 10-05-2010 12:50 AM

Albatross (Fleetwood Mac) lesson Pt 1 o 2 How to play this ...
By Jessica
First part of a lesson analysing the consstruction of the dreamy guitar instrumental Albatross Written by Peter Green and performed by Fleetwood Mac The single topped the british charts (the B side was the excellent Dany Kirwin ...
Aquestions.com - http://aquestions.com/


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