Originally Posted by Steviegirl (Post 1253389)

This is all so true. It feels very weird that I cannot, in good conscience, support the band. This is the first tour I've missed since the 1980s. The thing that is so hard to comprehend is the sold-out crowds. Who are these people? I can't support the band because of their unconscionable treatment of Lindsey, but I also think it's really creepy and weird that they're dragging Neil Finn and Mike Campbell around. I missed Lindsey when Rick and Billy were in the band, but I didn't feel utter disdain and embarrassment for them. I even went to see them on tour back then, and I own the TITN video. But THIS incarnation just feels like a crotchety, past-their-prime gaggle of old codgers/hucksters who need to pack it in. I wouldn't feel this way if Lindsey were with them because it'd be our old band touring. But this...they just seem like a bunch of corny hacks. It sounds stupid, I know, but I really miss loving them. They've been a huge part of my life. I'm grateful for the like-minded people here on The Ledge.

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1253404)

I really wish they would have considered just touring as the 4 piece. It would have been so much more amazing for the legacy if they had done that.

Stevie, go tour with the Pretenders so you can still draw and be famous with no soul.

And FM will continue as a solid 4 piece and do a final album and tour. Boom. We get smaller arenas and more acoustic treats. I'll never forget that BuckVie tour. It was out of this world to see them in that capacity.

Oh Well (as they say). They went for the fame, money, and lifestyle.

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1253404)

The thing is: These latest articles insinuate that FM would have been over if not for Neil saving them.

I really wish they would have considered just touring as the 4 piece. It would have been so much more amazing for the legacy if they had done that.

Stevie, go tour with the Pretenders so you can still draw and be famous with no soul.

And FM will continue as a solid 4 piece and do a final album and tour. Boom. We get smaller arenas and more acoustic treats. I'll never forget that BuckVie tour. It was out of this world to see them in that capacity.

Oh Well (as they say). They went for the fame, money, and lifestyle. That was predictable. But please don't misunderstand or confuse it with, "Neil saved FMac." He did nothing of the sort. In actual fact, he ruined it.

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1253405)

Amen, brother (sister). If they'd gone as a foursome they could have continued to create and be respected. They're already rich and do not need more money--well, except Mick.

Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1253408)

Well, apparently they all need the money, not only Mick, if they all went along with Stevie’s whim.

Originally Posted by sue (Post 1253409)

do you mean they MUST need money because that’s the only reason to go along with Stevie’s Whim...
Ah yes I see what you mean..

Maybe they’re just greedy...all of them

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1253404)

The thing is: These latest articles insinuate that FM would have been over if not for Neil saving them.

I really wish they would have considered just touring as the 4 piece. It would have been so much more amazing for the legacy if they had done that.

Stevie, go tour with the Pretenders so you can still draw and be famous with no soul.

And FM will continue as a solid 4 piece and do a final album and tour. Boom. We get smaller arenas and more acoustic treats. I'll never forget that BuckVie tour. It was out of this world to see them in that capacity.

Oh Well (as they say). They went for the fame, money, and lifestyle. That was predictable. But please don't misunderstand or confuse it with, "Neil saved FMac." He did nothing of the sort. In actual fact, he ruined it.

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1253411)

Mick's tone, innuendo and actual statements lately make me think they (the 4 stooges) didn't actually think Lindsey's departure would resonate as much, as far, and as long as it has. So now, he's being snarky. He got caught in a big lie, this tour is not doing as well as a final tour with the Rumours 5 would have (I am assuming they are done after this) 5 dates in Europe and a 2 of 5 star review!! OUCH. Neil Finn saved FM? Please, he can't even carry the guitar parts on his own. The press around this tour really has been abysmal. Lindsey is the focus of huge chunks of these interviews (another reason they are probably getting snarky) It's not about the music anymore. Oh---and Stevie is doing ZERO press.

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1253412)

Or is his snark just for the hardcore fans? He's quite happy to play for the dilettantes who just show up for the hits and couldn't name anyone in the band except maybe Stevie. As long as the checks clear. I think he could care less about some newspaper review as long as they are selling tickets. I think that's true of the rest as well.

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1253411)

Mick's tone, innuendo and actual statements lately make me think they (the 4 stooges) didn't actually think Lindsey's departure would resonate as much, as far, and as long as it has. So now, he's being snarky. He got caught in a big lie, this tour is not doing as well as a final tour with the Rumours 5 would have (I am assuming they are done after this) 5 dates in Europe and a 2 of 5 star review!! OUCH. Neil Finn saved FM? Please, he can't even carry the guitar parts on his own. The press around this tour really has been abysmal. Lindsey is the focus of huge chunks of these interviews (another reason they are probably getting snarky) It's not about the music anymore. Oh---and Stevie is doing ZERO press.

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1253413)

It definitely could be. It's the hardcore fans that are irate. He may not pay attention to the reviews, but I would think Azoff does, and I think Stevie does too. Her brand is what enabled them to pull this stunt. Imagine if she walked away now too....FM is tarnishing HER brand :laugh: Because she would see it that way. I'll give her this, she's much smarter in thinking ahead than Mick is. Mick thinks he can hole up in Hawaii for a few months, let the dust settle and call up ol Lindsey for a gig on his next album, just like nothing ever happened.

Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1253421)

And I definitely can see Mick knocking on Lindsey’s door once Stevie decides she doesn’t want to tour with them anymore. I hope Lindsey has better things to do than trying to give a closure to his beloved legacy with the band.