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Great to finally hear Lindsey speak on the issue. Wish he'd been a bit more pointed in his comments, especially considering how Fleetwood Mac has handled the issue publicly, but it is what it is. Hopefully he starts off his first solo show with a fiery rendition of "Wrong". |
Lindsey's comments are vintage Lindsey: passive-aggressive, cryptic and pretentious. I would have had more respect for him if he'd just spoken honestly, clearly stating that he feels betrayed and no longer has any regard for the band.
Noticeably, he makes no comment about his part in proceedings - i.e. the endless dithering and postponing of the tour, not to mention the more-than-cheeky utilisation of the crew for his projected solo gigs in between Mac shows. There's nothing "classy" about what he did, particularly to seize the opportunity to discuss the matter at a charity gig. Try crude and embittered. |
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The fact that he almost shut down the **** Stevie Nicks call by saying that it doesn't really matter, is somewhat respectful to SN when he could have laughed/ or made a nasty comment in agreeance / support of those heckled words speaks volumes. He is acting in a dignified way and not stooping to childish behaviour, unlike his selfish and money hungry ex-band mates. He's being the bigger person when he could have been a lot more brutal and cutting. |
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Or you could believe the conspiracy theorists posting here, that she spent the evening spying on Lindsey for Stevie :laugh: |
Two things that spoke volumes to me.
1) the word factions....likely means Mick and Stevie vs Chris and LB with John caught in the middle. 2) his not wanting to say anything too negative leaving the door open for reunion. He must think it’s just a phase. |
He's a class act---handled it elegantly, but more importantly--he sounded fantastic and played wonderfully (as always)
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She’s part of Stevie’s entourage, and she has nothing better to do on a Friday night than spending it on the same room with the man her friend just trashed on national TV? I don’t believe for a second her political beliefs are so strong she couldn’t stop herself from going. Gimme a break! |
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2) The use of the word “perspective” also made me think he’s waiting for them to come to senses. |
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I'm a fan of the band and the members, but not to the extent that I know the names of their family members or friends or entourage. Actually, maybe I should say I'm more a fan of their music rather than the members themselves. I've never really been into idolatry, especially for celebrities. Like a meet and greet for Mick- I wouldn't pay $600 to meet any of them, because, well, it's just not my thing. I couldn't say anything to them they hadn't already heard a million times ("I love your music") but that's fine if other people want to. I don't keep newspaper clippings, or photos, or record every appearance they make. I do buy the group albums and individual albums, but I don't keep them if I don't like them, which is why I got rid of Time, In the Meantime, 24 Karat Gold, and Gift of Screws. |
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He is only saying what we already knew. Mick and Stevie only care about the money. He cares about the music.
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I listened again, and I found the phrase “leave of absence” curious.
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Where was he passive-aggressive? Cryptic and a tad pretentious...well yeah, that is vintage Lindsey. And Stevie. And if you want passive aggressive, Mick Fleetwood holds that card in The Fleetwood Mac realm. You say he "seized" the opportunity to discuss this at a charity gig but then say you'd have more respect if he just essentially blasted the band? A charity gig? Don't make it sound like he took over a Children's Hospital gala to drone on and on about Fleetwood Mac. It was a political fundraiser and he barely spent 70 seconds talking about it. He wasn't rude, and he quickly shut the person up who said "f**k Stevie Nicks." Crude and embittered? My goodness, get some perspective as those words don't apply at all. And endless dithering and postponing of tours - first of all, not even a fact at all. Second, if he was fired for such, then Stevie should have been fired a few times in the last 20 years. |
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Leave of absence...
If I remember correctly, he has talked about cycles once or twice before...hahaha. Maybe he's just going to wait them out. I've stayed away from commenting here a lot because I don't have such deep allegiances as some, but I'm curious to see where this all goes. I'll see this latest version of Fleetwood Mac and hope that, sometime in the near future, those five people pull off a tour again. Now, back to the politics of the evening...:laugh:
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i do agree with others though that particular phrasing as well as the one about some band factions "losing their perspective" signals he is leaving the door open to repair the legacy. it's pretty clear he considers FM his band -as he should - "for the last 3 months i've taken leave of absence of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac, not by my doing or my choice." and he'd like to wrap up on a positive note for the band legacy. not my choice btw, but i understand his stance. he's a much bigger person than most of us would be in his situation. |
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Sorry/Not Sorry. |
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Maybe Lindsey with his words and phrasing is thinking someone is not in a right frame of mind, isn’t thinking straight and maybe he hopes things will change back again.
I don’t think he’s talking of Mick, who is just driven by money, but of Stevie... Maybe she isn’t capable of thinking straight, due to the death of her friend Tom. He is right this debacle has ruined their heritage, that’s for sure. |
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Curious to see the bands next comments on this--its not going to go away until they address it....."Truthfully" and not run away from reporters (a la TMZ/Mick in the airport) At what point do you think Mike and Neil are like "WTF did we take on?" |
Tell me lie$, tell me $WEET little lie$.....
TELL ME LIE$ TELL ME TELL ME LIE$ Oh Mick and $tevie.. you've become insufferable human beings. I hope you both sleep well on this tour. |
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The more that gets said, the more confusing it gets. The only one who has said anything definite is Stevie, but she’ll probably change her mind about Lindsey again, as she always does. Five years ago, she wanted a BN reunion tour…
Meanwhile, Mick and Lindsey are tripping over themselves to not refer to this as a firing, and Neil and Mike were less than convincing about the length of their tenure during the CBS interview. |
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translation for apparently confused - he did nothing to cause it, and he was thrown out against his will. |
OK, I can confirm with 100% certainty it was "F $tevie NICK$"
I know the person who shouted it. And I asked she did used the $$$ when she screamed it. $$ :laugh: |
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Nice speech comparing today's dysfunction in the country to the life in Fleetwood mac. This long speech would have been the perfect intro to GO INSANE
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It's the band's attempt at public relations spin. |
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Guess that makes me a conspiracy theorist. :laugh: :laugh: And makes you a far better person. It's fascinating that people don't understand that rich and famous stars do not, no matter how much PR they put out to the contrary, live their lives like you and I do. They *absolutely* have entourages, posses, handlers, gatekeepers, whatever you want to call it. And they *do* have people on their teams who feel it is their duty to look out for their boss, whatever that takes, including keeping tabs on other band members. People on here have heard directly from various people who work for the band that this goes on. Do fans need to care about this? Not if they don't want to. But if some people find it interesting, and factor this real info into their understandings of what is going on, it doesn't make them "conspiracy theorists". :distress: |
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I understand wealthy celebrities have an entourage, I wasn't disagreeing with that. Apparently, the woman in question works with Cameron Crowe on a tv show that actually featured Lindsey on an episode. So why wouldn't it be just as likely she was there for that reason as she was to spy for Stevie? Sure, it's possible Stevie knew about this event (which actually I doubt, because, as others have said, she's very sheltered by her people), and she asked this woman, who apparently has two jobs- one, working on a show with Cameron Crowe and two, is part of Stevie's entourage- to go to the fundraiser and collect intel on Lindsey and his performance. However, it's just as likely she went because she either supports the candidate and she works with Cameron Crowe. I don't care either way, I just think it's funny people are saying she was a spy, that's all. As someone else already said, if she was a spy, all she can tell Stevie is that Lindsey gave a fine performance and made a minute long speech about no longer being a part of FM. Personally, I prefer the idea that Stevie was secretly there, posing as an activist or one of the staff, wearing glasses and a wig, maybe even trying to sabotage Lindsey's amp. Or maybe passing out fliers for the upcoming FM tour. |
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