No way. I would be shocked. Bob sued the Mac for royalties over those songs exact songs. The Mac cut him off completely. I think Bob's wife would be upset. There is no way they would do one of Bob's songs and if they did they would deserve the flack they would get. The Mac would not even include Bob in the Behind the Music segment and he is not even mentioned as a transition. When they show the album Heroes are hard to find, Bob is cut off the album. Its almost like when Van Halen tried to erase Michael Anthony. They erased him from albums on their website. How could Bob's family be happy after all this they suddenly are profiting yet again off of Bob's songs when he is dead. Hypnotized would be amazing though.
Neil's concert was probably in a small club where he is feeling things out. Its a great song I think he could do well. But it wont work with an arena packed of casual fans. But who knows on that one. I was the first one to say they would play it. Then reality set in ;)

Steve - yes Mick is overly nice about Bob in his latest book. Its really sad how he rationalizes. I think its way of saying I'm sorry or something.

On another note, I was thinking in the car today listening to the Mac channel. Oh Daddy is going to be impossible to play without Lindsey. His guitar playing is so original its not something that can be duplicated for the same effect of the song. Another thing I miss is Christine playing keyboards. I don't think she can do it anymore. I was listening to Rhiannon live 1976 and Don't Let Me Down Again and boy she is just playing mad keyboards on those songs. Its not impossible they pipe in some sound effects on some of these songs like the Buck/Vie tour.

Bob and Mick reconsiled years ago. Mick even agreed to do a benefit for Wendy when Bob was still alive.

In the Behind the Music you referred to, it also completely ignored Billy, Rick, Dave, and Bekka, so the fact it ignored Bob too didn't surprise me.

I'm not sure how FM would be profiting from singing a couple of Bob's songs live, but I could see Bob's estate profiting, another reason I hope they do Hypnotized and or Sentimental Lady.

Macfan4life, have you reconsidered whether to see them live this tour? Although I haven't bought tickets yet, I'm pretty sure I'm going. After learning more about Neil and Mike, I'm actually excited to see this version of FM live, whether it lasts or not.

Isn’t Bobs wife dead now too?

Yes, she passed away.

Disagree! Well I live in Australia, which was not included in the BuckVie tour. Thanks guys! :rolleyes:
You Making Loving Fun was a big hit at the Sydney show for OWTS tour in 2015.
My wish list for the tour I'll be travelling to Sacramento to see:
1. The Chain (will be sad without Lindsey but has to be done if they are to present a united front)
2. You Make Loving Fun
3. I Don't Want to Know (again, sacrilege without Lindsey but they could pull it off)
4. Dreams
5. Don't Dream It's Over
6. Oh Well
7. Station Man
8. Say You Will
9. Isn't it Midnight
10. Little Lies
11. Sisters of the Moon
12. Angel
13. Albatross
14. The Green Manalishi
15. Gold Dust Woman
16. Say You Love Me
17. New Stevie song (never gonna happen, but this is a wish list)
18. New Christine song (could be from BuckVie - eg Red Sun)
19. Second Hand News (not sure about this but could work)
20. Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Encores
21. Get Like You Used To Be
22. Don't Stop
23. Silver Springs
24. Songbird

I thought YMLF sounded fine on the OWTS tour (I saw it in 2014) but the BuckVie performance, was really bad. Sad because it’s such a good song.

I'd like to hear Sara this time around. From what I have seen on YouTube it transfers well onstage.

Wow, great list! I would sub Go Your Own Way for Second Hand News, As Long As You Follow for Say You Love Me, and Sara for Sisters of the Moon though. Otherwise, I'm on the same page as you!

Oh, I think there's every chance of both Man of the World and Hypnotized. I think he was just unable to choose between the two of them. There was a time when Bobs songs would never have been played. Now Mick has made it clear he wants to celebrate the full history of the band. It'd be easier for them to play Bob's songs now Wendy is also no longer with us.

I'd love to hear Hypnotized!

I think they are aware that Christine's voice is not what it used to be on Rumours, and they were considering some alternatives for her. She will probably have some backup vocal support live.

Neil Finn's voice is still very good. When Paul Kelly did a show with him, he joked that it was good to have Neil with him 'because he can hit all the really high notes!' (Kelly is also a great songwriter, but his vocal range is in the limited category like Dylan or Petty and he knows it.)

I'm tryna stay out of this but am wondering, what if they project some of the old pictures of Fleetwood Mac Peter Green era etc while doing some of those songs? Like pictures from the book 'Love That Burns' and a few clips? (If that doesn't seem too much like the kind of thing they do when someone dies...) Peter Green has said that 'Man Of The World' is the song that represents him the most.

Christine said in 2013 that it’s her favorite Peter Green song.

I don't think I am going but its not 100%. Ticket prices are high and I have been spoiled with great seats. Seeing Lindsey and Christine 50 feet away really leaves an impression on you. I had great seats for On with the show in Pittsburgh but in Miami I did not enjoy the concert as much because of the seats were not great and Stevie and Lindsey were having a serious fight that night.
HOWEVER, if the set list is interesting then who knows. I also scored fantastic seats for Stevie's 24K Gold concert months after they went on sale. A month or so before the concert the side stage opened up and I got second row. Got to see Mathew with Stevie's dogs during intermission. I could also see Stevie backstage before the lights went out and curtain went up. So I will pass for now. If an interesting set list comes up and good seats at reasonable prices happen then maybe.
I really hate guessing at songs because I think most everyone's guess is horrible. Its dumb to play Stop Draggin My Heart Around or I Need To know. That's a Stevie solo concert. IF you really want to tribute Tom then do something different that is not affiliated with Stevie's solo shows. How about Insider or Needles and Pins. It would not happen but even I will run to you or Imperial Hotel would be ok.
I suspect a very traditional Mac setlist with 4 songs added (Don't dream its over, Oh Well, another Mac classic, and one Petty tribute). And that does not excite me that much.

I agree- I shiver at the thought of FM playing Stop Dragging My Heart or Need to Know. But I suppose since Mike is now in FM, they may feel obligated to play a TP song.

I think there will be more than 4 songs added because Lindsey usually played what, 7 or 8 songs? So even if they play the 4 you mentioned, that still leaves room for at least 4 more songs that will have to be added.

Well the shortage of Lindsey songs makes me hope Stevie and Christine dig deep into the vault and do some songs they never thought they would do.

I would absolutely love to hear more Christine and Stevie deep cuts! But I don't think Neil joined FM just to sing Lindsey's parts on World Turning, Don't Stop, and The Chain, you know what I mean? He's gonna want to sing lead on a couple of songs, too. Besides Go Your Own Way and Don't Dream It's Over, I really hope he sings I Don't Want to Know and Sentimental Lady. Many casual FM fans know I Don't Want to Know, and even Sentimental Lady, I think, many people in the audience will be like, "wait a second, I know this song!"

Something out of the box that could work is Stevie singing Man of the world instead of Landslide. It would keep the audience's attention and I think she could pull it off. I do think they will do I Don't want to know. With Lindsey gone and songs from Rumours #1 played in concert it pops up as the likely contender. I was saying Oh Daddy but that song has way too much Lindsey sound on it. Its very Lindsey's art. They could play it but the magic of the song would be gone.

Neil did 'Man Of The World' with Mike at the gig recently and apparently it went well. So I'd say he can pull it off. They could just add some interesting visuals and it could be great. The interesting thing is how they tell this story and show this line of progression, integrating it all together. And presenting it to the breed of fans not totally familiar with it, who have been mainly exposed to the Rumours line up. Which is what I started with.

(I was an 80s and 90s kid. But I became aware of the Peter Green era after seeing a documentary about Mick on TV, and some of the songs were familiar, I just didn't realise where they originated from. Once the penny dropped, I was nearly falling over myself! Doh!)

But it's still a long way to go, at this point theorising and guessing what they'll be doing.

It's impossible to replace Lindsey, but I'm looking forward to seeing the new lineup and hear them explore some older songs that have been hibernating for many years.

I saw Neil Finn's recent performance at Largo where Mike Campbell came out to play a couple of songs including "Man of The World". Sounded great!

In particular, I'm hoping to hear "Dust", "Green Manalishi", "The Way I Feel", "Why", "Storms", "Oh Daddy", "Sisters of The Moon", and "Planets of The Universe".

1. Think About Me
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. You Make Loving Fun
5. Oh Well
6. Rhiannon
7. Everywhere
8. Rattlesnake Shake
9. Smile At You (piano demo style)
10. Believe Me
11. World Keep on Turning
12. Landslide
13. Oh Daddy
14. Don’t Dream it’s Over
15. Refugee
16. Little Lies
17. Gold Dust Woman
18. Green Manalishi
19. Don’t Stop

Encore 1

20. Get Like You Used To Be
21. Blue Letter
22. World Turning

Encore 2
23. Sisters of the Moon (kicked up a notch like gold dust woman of late please)
24. Why


And I’m actually even incredibly excited to just hear what Rhiannon will sound with a newly formed band. Not blaming Lindsey at all, because the song was stale in many different live versions including solo, but she has a tendency to breathe new life into a song when inspired by people like Dave grohl, Tom Petty and others being onstage with her. Maybe Mike Campbell will bring back the Rhiannon guitar solo and Stevie wouldn’t fight him on that like she would Lindsey.

Would love to hear Neil's epic song "Fingers of Love" with Stevie/Christine on harmony vocals and Mike Campbell on the incredible guitar solo in the song's second half ...

Surely you jest? Hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think they're dropping GYOW from the set. You may get "Stand Back" though.

I agree, they will perform Go Your Own Way. It's one of my top 4 FM songs, so I'm ok with that.

But jwd, I didn't see your list. C'mon, what do you think they're going to perform? Is there anything FM could perform that would tempt you into seeing them? Just curious.

Thanks for posting this, Sugar Mouse. Are you very familiar with Neil's live shows? The reason I ask is, I'm curious if he always stays to the left on the stage like he does in this video. Because in FM, Christine is always on the left, Stevie in the middle, and Lindsey on the right. Even when Rick and Billy were in FM, that was the same order. I figure Neil will play in Lindsey's usual position, but Mike will probably wander the stage a lot, interacting with Stevie, Neil, and John.

Here are some of the songs that I'm hoping to see this fall ...

Sisters of The Moon



Oh Well



Dust



Heart of Stone



Planets of The Universe



Come A Little Bit Closer



Why



The Way I Feel



Temporary One



Spare Me A Little of Your Love



Man of The World



Dragonfly

I've seen Neil perform many times and he doesn't seem to have a preferred side. I've seen him on the left and I've seen him on the right. He usually rotates between piano and guitar during shows, but I assume he'll mostly be on rhythm guitar in Fleetwood Mac. He also likes to wander around during shows. He really loves collaborating and allowing musical magic to happen in spontaneous moments. Those with interest in learning about Neil's performing and songwriting may want to check out the lecture he gave at Yale back in September of 2012. It was about creativity in music and I believe it's still online.

I have to check that out. I'm sure it will be interesting.

Here they are jamming together in Maui. I think that the girls will stay on the left together. Neil and Mike will be on right but Mike will probably move around a bit between Stevie, Neil and the rhythm section.

I think GYOW can stay in the set. This band have never hidden their drama. They wear it on their sleeve. It's also a crowd favourite that everyone sings along to.

I like scruffy Neil but for these shows, maybe he will spruce up a little. (Stevie will probably give him a few tips!)

ETA: Ty for posting the film of Neil talking about his songwriting process here. I will watch it in full later and share my thoughts. As I've said previously, I believe he is one of the best songwriters of all time from southern hemisphere. http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=57931

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As has been noted, Lindsey cannot be replaced. But I am hoping the band uses this as a chance to do some career showcase/retrospective of their earlier work, which would be very worthwhile. And I think there's a possibility of new material being produced down the line. Sad that Lindsey won't be there but I am sure the quality of these shows will be very good with the first rate talent involved. And we'll see where it goes from there.

Couldn't agree more.

For me, I think it's best to think of this as a "new band" as I expect the setlist and sound to be very different.

I hope they dig deep into the Danny Kirwan and Bob Welch pool of songs as there are some gems there than should sound sweet with Mike and Neil.

Danny's song "Dust", in particular", sounds like it could have been written by Neil. Danny (and Bob Welch to a lesser extent) had a very similar songwriting style to Neil with sweet melodies, introspective lyrics, and spacious musical textures.

I was just listening to Danny Kirwan's Fleetwood Mac song "Dust" and then Neil's song "Edible Flowers' (co-write with his brother Tim) and marveling at the beauty of the two songs and how they seem to have arisen from the same songwriting well. See below ...

Well, since you asked, my number one song request would be "Crystal". I've always hoped they would do this song in concert. Having said that, I would not want them to do it now, without Linds. It'd be almost sacrilegious to do it, for the first time, without him. So just never do it, unless for some unforeseen reason, he returns. Then it would be even more amazing!

For me, as Missy has said, I would hope that FM delves heavily into all their previous work on this tour. Songs from Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, and Bob Welch. Making it a true retrospective into what was EVER FM. THAT would be appropriate and somewhat makeup for the fiasco that has taken place recently. An all encompassing FM setlist would get me there! And that would be a hard list of songs to whittle down! I still do so very much love FM and all those fabulous songs they've given us. That is something I will never get bitter on.

Crystal is in my top 3 FM songs, and is one I always wished they would have performed live. I finally broke down and bought the Buckingham Nicks Live from Alabama cd off eBay last week, and Crystal is one of the songs they did live. I have always been fascinated by this song. Why did Lindsey sing lead on it, for example. Did Stevie write it for him to sing? Or did he hear it and ask to sing lead? I always wished they would have written more songs for each other. It would be interesting to hear Christine song That's Alright, or Stevie singing lead on Blue Letter, or Lindsey singing Brown Eyes.

Back to Crystal- I love hearing Lindsey sing those ethereal lyrics, he really gives the words gravitas that otherwise would have been lacking. I loved that song for years before I ever realized Stevie was the one who wrote it, and I was stunned. There was a femininity to the song, so since Lindsey sang it, I thought he wrote it, and I was like, "man, this guy understands the female mind!" Such a beautiful, simple song, and would have been incredible in an acoustic set with Landslide and Brown Eyes. But I can also see why Lindsey might have rather sang a song he had written instead. That's why I think it would be fine for Neil to sing Crystal, because there's no way in the world Lindsey would again, and I understand why.

A short clip of Mick speaking on SiriusXM about the upcoming tour. It does sound like they'll be departing from the usual and are looking at material from full 50 year history.

Have you ever seen @FleetwoodMac perform live? The band is back on tour this summer! @MickFleetwood hinted at what to expect. So, any requests? 😉

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— SiriusXM (@SIRIUSXM) May 24, 2018

He's not that shallow. And I don't want Neil to sing it. But I do appreciate your mutual love for this song.

I'd vote for this version as being the best version of "Crystal" ... incredible.

I totally agree. Gives me chills.

I think much of the show will still be what folks expect to hear from FM. It will still be recognizable as FM, but some delving and drawing attention to their earlier history and off the beaten path. The numbers that have been getting quite tired recently - give them a rest or try to freshen them, explore another side of the song. That is something Neil is quite good at, while respecting the original work.

17 studio albums to choose from, many possibilities available. Thinking that 'Hypnotized' is a strong bet. There's an eerie and ethereal quality to it that is reminiscent to me of some Enz work.

Agreed. I would think "Hypnotized" is all but assured of being on the set list. Great, great song.

Also, among the old stuff, I'm hoping for:

For Mike Campbell to show off ...

Green Manalishi
Oh Well

For Neil Finn to take lead vocals ...

Hypnotized
Dust
Man of The World

For Christine to take lead:

Heart of Stone
Spare Me A Little
Come A Little Bit Closer

For Stevie (from Rumours/Tusk era):

Planets of The Universe
Sisters of The Moon
Storms
Beautiful Child

Man of the World or Hypnotised?
 

Apologies if this has been picked up, Neil Finn was asked the above on twitter and replied "we've tried both"


https://twitter.com/NeilFinn?ref_src....com%2Fnews%2F

Very interesting. I wonder if it was in relation to the gig he did with Campbell when he performed MotW. Perhaps it was when they did their initial rehearsal in Hawaii?

Replace come a little bit closer with why and I’d definitely call that a perfect wishlist. And planets of the universe will be just be Stevie singing with Christine at the piano right?