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FuzzyPlum 03-02-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1179027)
Hillary Clinton is such a liar. She'll say anything to get elected.

Out of interest what is it that she's said that you feel are lies?

(btw- she's a politician, it's in their job description to lie, isn't it?)

lilyfee 03-02-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179031)
Out of interest what is it that she's said that you feel are lies?

(btw- she's a politician, it's in their job description to lie, isn't it?)

I think Hillary's biggest problem is that she doesn't come off as a warm person, so people don't feel like they can trust her. They either see her as cold or fake. She's not a great speaker like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama and that hinders people's perceptions of her.

I don't think it's right to vote for her solely because she's a woman, however I do believe that as a women she has had a harder time getting here than any other candidate. She's struggled since her time as First Lady to develop an image that's both feminine and ambitious, without coming off as a Lady Macbeth type and overstepping... What she tried to do as First Lady contrasts with beloved past/present First Ladies such as Laura Bush or Michelle Obama, who present a more traditional and nurturing feminine image.

Strangely, people seemed to love her as Secretary of State, yet in her run for President, democrats see her as less "progressive" than Bernie Sanders and republicans just talk about how untrustworthy she is. But IMHO she has the most political and diplomatic experience of any candidate, and a person can still be progressive without running on a platform based solely on class warfare. Just my two cents.:shrug:

Macfanforever 03-02-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179031)
Out of interest what is it that she's said that you feel are lies?

(btw- she's a politician, it's in their job description to lie, isn't it?)

Hahaha.LOL .I'm just thinking when a band or artists say .We be back next year" and they dont come back.

More likely any job description.The last few jobs I was at.They hire anybody off the street without background checks.Some were drunks,Some were felons .Some lied on their applications.With these uncheck people .I was alittle worried it could turn into a situation like these mass shooting at the workplace.

I'm glad there is some honest folks still around.

Macfanforever 03-02-2016 07:30 PM

Will Hillary is almost half way there at 1052 delegates.Bernie is holding on at 427.The Dems need 2,383 to get nominated.

The Repubs need 1237 to get nominated for president.
The Donald is at 319 and Ted Cruz is cruising behind him at 226 delegates.

Jondalar 03-02-2016 07:46 PM

Well I wonder how many from different countries voted on this poll.

welcomechris 03-02-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179031)
Out of interest what is it that she's said that you feel are lies?

(btw- she's a politician, it's in their job description to lie, isn't it?)

She killed four americans over in Benghazi, Sent thousands of emails on her private server so the US gov. couldn't read them, claimed to support gay marriage for her entire career, yet only started a few years back, and well, maybe these can help you:





SNL pointed some things out about her as well: https://youtu.be/Xr3ypM5-XsI?t=1m30s

Jondalar 03-03-2016 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1179039)
She killed four americans over in Benghazi, Sent thousands of emails on her private server so the US gov. couldn't read them, claimed to support gay marriage for her entire career, yet only started a few years back, and well, maybe these can help you:





SNL pointed some things out about her as well: https://youtu.be/Xr3ypM5-XsI?t=1m30s

She is not a shoe in for president. She might end up in jail.

olive 03-03-2016 08:14 AM

a REPUBLICAN Committee has cleared both Clinton and President Obama of any wrong doing in Benghazi and some have admitted they were trying to slander her and ruin her chances at a presidential run


and she changed her mind for the better , would it have been best if she stayed against same sex marriage ? would that make you happy ?

sorcerer999 03-03-2016 11:32 AM

Kudos to the seven intelligent people who have given Bernie some love!!! :nod: :xoxo:

olive 03-03-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999 (Post 1179062)
Kudos to the seven intelligent people who have given Bernie some love!!! :nod: :xoxo:

if they only looked up the definitions and understood the difference between a socialist and a Democratic Socialist he may have had more

Macfanforever 03-03-2016 12:05 PM

I always wonder why anybody wants to do the presidents or prime ministers job.

Some people like power tripping and the fringe benefits after their term is over.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...esident/Salary

According to this site.The pay is not much cash which is peanuts compared to the sports and entertainment industry.

I was going to post this in the DNC thread but this FM tune could fit any of them.


FuzzyPlum 03-03-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1179064)
I always wonder why anybody wants to do the presidents or prime ministers job.

Some people like power tripping and the fringe benefits after their term is over.

Lets be honest, if you get as far as becoming the President, you don't exactly need the money.

Macfanforever 03-03-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1179067)
Lets be honest, if you get as far as becoming the President, you don't exactly need the money.

I agree on that.

welcomechris 03-03-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1179054)
She is not a shoe in for president. She might end up in jail.

Agreed!

Hillary is a lying mess. Bernie is a socialist. Ted is a liar.

OK olive, explain the email scandal to us than.

welcomechris 03-03-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1178993)
I, too, LOVE Elizabeth Warren. When Hillary gets the Democratic nomination, could she choose Elizabeth Warren as a running mate? It would be a dream ticket.

I don't think it will happen, but wishful thinking exists in my realm of politics.



Not gonna happen.


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