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sue 08-14-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerMcCrudden (Post 1215354)
I need to address this already cause i've seen people already throw up their arms over this:

she didn't mention 'Mr Useless' in association with his musical ability... only that at the time when they were poor and Stevie had to work multiple jobs and he worked on the music, he worked on the music cause the only thing he wasnt useless at at the time was their music...

so pull yourselves together before you attack her for calling him that because it has nothing to do with LB musical ability


No I just think it's very funny...I don't think she's talking about him musically...
It's just funny.
To call Lindsey, Mr Useless. Did she roll her eyes too?
She might, however be having a general dig at him.

MoonSister75 08-14-2017 04:52 PM

The endlessly fascinating Stevie-Lindsey dynamic. I don't think Stevie is too careful about what she says, it just comes out :laugh: And I can't see him being Mr Tactful around her either.

wheart 08-14-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1215357)
uh, yeah, we get that.

it's more the point that she uses it as in "you're too delicate and completely unable to do anything so you just stay home and work on music and I'll go out and make the money and come home and cook the dinner". Which is a lot of work for sure, but the point being made is that if they had had to rely on HER to have the skill and discipline to spend hours arranging their songs, they'd have been up sh&t's creek. So frankly, he could just as easily turn around and call HER "Miss Useless" who couldn't do anything to arrange and record their songs "so you just go out and wait tables and clean toilets and I'll do the stuff that's going to make our career successful".
They each had different and necessary skill sets that contributed to them being successful, and she chose to take a stab at him in this interview. It was all almost 40 years ago and you'd think they'd have moved past that crap by now.

you nailed it and the whole thing is really so unnecessary. How many times has Stevie mentioned in interviews that she worked while Lindsey practiced. We get it. You supported him. It was a million years ago. In reality, he was her meal ticket and she knew it so she'd better get out there and support him. I'm just tired of her bringing it up constantly, with that air of superiority.

blemelin 08-14-2017 11:10 PM

This was obviously heavily edited into sound bytes, so she could have said a lot of other things around the "Mr. Useless" comments that we'll never hear. Let it go, people.

deribish 08-15-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blemelin (Post 1215375)
This was obviously heavily edited into sound bytes, so she could have said a lot of other things around the "Mr. Useless" comments that we'll never hear. Let it go, people.

Agreed! Watch it for yourselves. It's not a mean poke at Lindz NOW. It's just a jokey mention to how she got a job while lindz stayed at home and worked on becoming a better guitarist.
(it's around the 5 min mark)


aleuzzi 08-15-2017 03:55 PM

^^^

That comes through clearly. But that's not why some people, including myself, are pointing it out. No matter what the context, the comment seems bitter and harsh, perhaps an attempt to be dryly funny (which she often is) that lands on the side of petty and spiteful. I might not have felt this way had the rest of her interview seemed more relaxed, but she was pretty angry elsewhere, too. The comment about wanting to run towards her former psychotherapist and kill him is an example. Her frustration over losing eight years of her life is understandable. The devastation must be real. But she's been saying things to this effect for about 17 years, and the comments only get harsher and harsher, suggesting that she can't seem to move on. This is ironically robbing her of more time.

She's been complaining about LB not being employable for decades, too. Some of the comments back in the day, such as the "hamburger helper" comment from a Wild Heart interview in '83 were hilarious, proof of her acerbic wit. But the comments not only persist but get harsher, more aggressive.

MoonSister75 08-15-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deribish (Post 1215436)
Agreed! Watch it for yourselves. It's not a mean poke at Lindz NOW. It's just a jokey mention to how she got a job while lindz stayed at home and worked on becoming a better guitarist.
(it's around the 5 min mark)

​Yes I agree with you 100%. It's been blown out of all epic proportion into a full on character assassination. I honestly don't sense a bitter and angry women in this interview or the others. It's just Stevie saying Stevie things, in her way, as she has been doing for the last 40 years. She's angry at losing 8 years of her life to Klonopin, and is expressing that strongly, but does anyone actually believe she would really kill the therapist :shrug: Its just a (very strong) figure of speech. If she still feels angry about that and expresses that, why is that a problem to anyone?

I don't know...I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to type all this...this will all fall mostly on deaf ears. Stevie haters will find anything to beat her with, and it's not going to change. I guess I just find it strange that people are so invested in hating someone so much :shrug:

MoonSister75 08-15-2017 04:49 PM

^^Just realised some of my post probably doesn't make sense...

I was trying to say... I don't get the sense that in general Stevie is an angry and bitter person.
She clearly is still angry about the Klonopin/therapist - and is very happy to let everyone know that.
I don't detect anywhere else in the interview or her other interviews a general overriding anger or bitterness. She just wants to carry on singing as long as her vocal chords will still allow :] that doesn't strike me as something a bitter person would say.

But who knows...maybe I'm wrong and I just don't have a clue :shrug:

sue 08-15-2017 04:55 PM

Having listened to the clip again, she's definitely saying this as a fond jokey memory.....she's not having a dig at all.
She's smiling remembering something in the past...like "hey do you remember when you were such a nerd". etc etc.
Admittedly she does remember it quite frequently.

Macfan4life 08-15-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonSister75 (Post 1215440)
​Yes I agree with you 100%. It's been blown out of all epic proportion into a full on character assassination. I honestly don't sense a bitter and angry women in this interview or the others. It's just Stevie saying Stevie things, in her way, as she has been doing for the last 40 years. She's angry at losing 8 years of her life to Klonopin, and is expressing that strongly, but does anyone actually believe she would really kill the therapist :shrug: Its just a (very strong) figure of speech. If she still feels angry about that and expresses that, why is that a problem to anyone?

I don't know...I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to type all this...this will all fall mostly on deaf ears. Stevie haters will find anything to beat her with, and it's not going to change. I guess I just find it strange that people are so invested in hating someone so much :shrug:

I agree with you in part. I don't think she sounded bitter or angry at all. I also think she was trying to be funny. HOWEVER, Lindsey is not useless and was busting his butt for them to make it in the music industry. So its a wasted joke because it makes no sense. What it does show is her unresolved bitterness towards Lindsey that will never go away. Playing guitar all day is what led Stevie Nicks to join one of the most successful rock bands in history. Its time for her to be a little grateful. Its almost time to rehearse for one last tour. Give it a rest. We can also see why she chose not to record with the band.
Just imagine for a second if Lindsey would have said something like "Stevie was Miss Useless back in those days HA HA. She was not a musician so she cleaned toilets while I worked on our music all day. OUCH Its just silly after all these years to say such stuff.

dreamsunwind 08-15-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonSister75 (Post 1215445)
^^Just realised some of my post probably doesn't make sense...

I was trying to say... I don't get the sense that in general Stevie is an angry and bitter person.
She clearly is still angry about the Klonopin/therapist - and is very happy to let everyone know that.
I don't detect anywhere else in the interview or her other interviews a general overriding anger or bitterness. She just wants to carry on singing as long as her vocal chords will still allow :] that doesn't strike me as something a bitter person would say.

But who knows...maybe I'm wrong and I just don't have a clue :shrug:

I don't think she's generally angry or bitter either (except like you said for the Klono-doctor), but she really needs to just let go of the past. I understand she gets asked about the past a lot, but the way she responds seems like someone who is still so invested in it.

bombaysaffires 08-15-2017 07:53 PM

I just love how this board, like the world it seems, has devolved to where if someone has a different opinion than you do, they're a "hater".:confused:

pryderi 08-15-2017 08:46 PM

Loved the concert footage. Please release soon!!!!!!

MakerofBirds 08-16-2017 12:12 PM

Thank you so much for posting this Danielle!

Nothing made me happier than seeing that gold crescent moon around Chrissie's neck!

JohnL 08-16-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1215456)
I just love how this board, like the world it seems, has devolved to where if someone has a different opinion than you do, they're a "hater".:confused:

Welcome to my world on the other board.


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