Originally Posted by elle (Post 1116105)

even with FM, in Vegas, nobody knew they were in town. banner lights on MGM were mostly showcasing David Copperfield and Cher :lol:. my husband was in a casino across the street while i was at FM show and started talking to some people who were shocked to hear that FM is in town and said they loved LB and would definitely be at the show if they knew.

all "now happening in vegas" magazines barely had some miniature add for their show that even i could barely see, when really searching for it, while everybody else had half page displays.

Originally Posted by teedeerocks (Post 1117673)

I believe Lindsay himself is responsible for all of this.2 reasons-I feel he is very egotistical and he thinks he is God when he walks onstage and also just to rub his popularity in Stevie's face.This is typical behavior from someone who is as passive-aggrssive as he is IMO.A great guitarist yes.A TRULY nice guy no(IMO).

Originally Posted by teedeerocks (Post 1117673)

I believe Lindsay himself is responsible for all of this.2 reasons-I feel he is very egotistical and he thinks he is God when he walks onstage and also just to rub his popularity in Stevie's face.This is typical behavior from someone who is as passive-aggrssive as he is IMO.A great guitarist yes.A TRULY nice guy no(IMO).

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1138132)

a different way to look at this, perhaps?

excerpt from Billy Joel's recent interview discussing ticket scalping:

These guys are all road dogs, all veterans, they've been doing it for years and years, they've worked for everybody. There' a good spirit on this tour, and good morale is really important. We never sell front rows, we hold those tickets at just about every concert. For years, the scalpers got the tickets and would scalp the front row for ridiculous amounts of money. Our tickets are cheap, under $100, some in the $80s, the highest is about $150. I'd look down and see rich people sitting there, I call 'em "gold chainers." Sitting there puffing on a cigar, "entertain me, piano man." They don't stand up, make noise, sit there with their bouffant haired girlfriend lookin' like a big shot. I kinda got sick of that, who the hell are these people, where are the real fans? It turns out the real fans were always in the back of the room in the worst seats. We now hold those tickets, and I send my road crew out to the back of the room when the audience comes in and they get people from the worst seats and bring 'em in to the front rows. This way you've got people in the front row that are really happy to be there, real fans. We've tried to figure out how to beat the scalpers for years and years, hold off selling until the last minute, the wristband thing, limiting the amount of tickets people can get. You can't fight that secondary market. There used to be anti-scalping laws and they let them lapse from the books. My theory is there's a lot of tax revenue in those secondary ticket markets, these guys selling tickets for $500 to $1,000 gotta pay tax on it, and a lot more goes to government than there would be based on my ticket prices. So why should they enforce the scalping laws. We don't want to play to big shots, I want to play to younger people, people who can only afford a low ticket price. They make the best audience, they make the most noise, they're the most enthusiastic. It's just hard to get to them any more. I tell the audience every night, "I hope you didn't pay more than face value on that ticket, because we ain't worth more than that, and you ain't gonna get any more than that."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...den?page=0%2C1

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1138132)

a different way to look at this, perhaps?

excerpt from Billy Joel's recent interview discussing ticket scalping:

These guys are all road dogs, all veterans, they've been doing it for years and years, they've worked for everybody. There' a good spirit on this tour, and good morale is really important. We never sell front rows, we hold those tickets at just about every concert. For years, the scalpers got the tickets and would scalp the front row for ridiculous amounts of money. Our tickets are cheap, under $100, some in the $80s, the highest is about $150. I'd look down and see rich people sitting there, I call 'em "gold chainers." Sitting there puffing on a cigar, "entertain me, piano man." They don't stand up, make noise, sit there with their bouffant haired girlfriend lookin' like a big shot. I kinda got sick of that, who the hell are these people, where are the real fans? It turns out the real fans were always in the back of the room in the worst seats. We now hold those tickets, and I send my road crew out to the back of the room when the audience comes in and they get people from the worst seats and bring 'em in to the front rows. This way you've got people in the front row that are really happy to be there, real fans. We've tried to figure out how to beat the scalpers for years and years, hold off selling until the last minute, the wristband thing, limiting the amount of tickets people can get. You can't fight that secondary market. There used to be anti-scalping laws and they let them lapse from the books. My theory is there's a lot of tax revenue in those secondary ticket markets, these guys selling tickets for $500 to $1,000 gotta pay tax on it, and a lot more goes to government than there would be based on my ticket prices. So why should they enforce the scalping laws. We don't want to play to big shots, I want to play to younger people, people who can only afford a low ticket price. They make the best audience, they make the most noise, they're the most enthusiastic. It's just hard to get to them any more. I tell the audience every night, "I hope you didn't pay more than face value on that ticket, because we ain't worth more than that, and you ain't gonna get any more than that."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...den?page=0%2C1

Originally Posted by shebop (Post 1138217)

For those of us that are standing right by the stage at most of these shows - and we all know who we are - it would be incorrect to say that we are not enthusiastic and huge fans!
I have been to many shows of other artists where the people in front are not true fans of the artist and I would not want them up there if I was playing - but being that that is not the case here - it is truly annoying when females whose only qualifications seem to be age and appearance are put in front of fans.

Originally Posted by Moz (Post 1153253)

I saw this happening last night. That same security guard brought up a group of young women from who knows where and plopped them down right in front of Lindsey. They wouldn't allow anyone else up that close, even people in rows 3-10, but I guess that doesn't matter if you're a young and conventionally attractive woman. :rolleyes: