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Mac Fan
01-25-2003, 06:04 AM
What were Fleetwood Mac like then? I've never heard any of their songs from that era.
Sofie
macfan 57
01-25-2003, 06:21 AM
There were 5 Fleetwood Mac albums during those years and they are terrific. In my opinion, "Mystery To Me" & "Bare Trees" are the best, but all are definitely worth having. The songs are kind of a soft rock sound. I think every one of Christine's songs on these albums are terrific, in some cases even better than her songs on later Fleetwood Mac albums. Bob Welch is also great on these albums and Danny Kirwan was also great, although he was only on the first two albums.
Mac Fan
01-25-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by macfan 57
There were 5 Fleetwood Mac albums during those years and they are terrific. In my opinion, "Mystery To Me" & "Bare Trees" are the best, but all are definitely worth having. The songs are kind of a soft rock sound. I think every one of Christine's songs on these albums are terrific, in some cases even better than her songs on later Fleetwood Mac albums. Bob Welch is also great on these albums and Danny Kirwin was also great, although he was only on the first two albums. In my opinion, if you don't have these albums, you don't know what you're missing.
Thanks. I did as k for Bare Trees for Xmas, never got it. I'll see if I can get MTM and Bare Trees soon. Thanks for your help.
Sofie
becca
01-26-2003, 12:11 AM
I really like Future Games from 1971 which was a pivitol album in their progression. It is like Fleetwood Mac's prog rock album, so if you like Yes, Traffic or Gentle Giant you'll like it.
chiliD
01-26-2003, 12:23 AM
"Gentle Giant"...
...now there's a band that doesn't get mentioned very much. I think of all the '70's "Progressive Rock" bands (Yes, King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, etc), Gentle Giant was my favorite. I've got most of their albums...on vinyl, so I haven't listened to them for quite a while.
Pet Peeve:
Ok, ok, ok...you KNOW how you people get annoyed or even downright disgusted when somebody misspells Lindsey's name, "LindsAY"??? Well, same for me with Danny...
...it's KIRWAN, not Kirwin, or Kerwin, or Kirwen, or Kerwan....KIRWAN!!!!
Mac Fan
01-26-2003, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by becca
I really like Future Games from 1971 which was a pivitol album in their progression. It is like Fleetwood Mac's prog rock album, so if you like Yes, Traffic or Gentle Giant you'll like it.
I've never heard of any of those bands.
macfan 57
01-26-2003, 06:06 AM
[i]Originally posted by chiliD
Pet Peeve:
Ok, ok, ok...you KNOW how you people get annoyed or even downright disgusted when somebody misspells Lindsey's name, "LindsAY"??? Well, same for me with Danny...
...it's KIRWAN, not Kirwin, or Kerwin, or Kirwen, or Kerwan....KIRWAN!!!! [/B]
Oops. That's what I get for being in a hurry and not proofreading what I typed. Of course, it's KIRWAN.:laugh:
Mac Fan
01-26-2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by chiliD
Pet Peeve:
Ok, ok, ok...you KNOW how you people get annoyed or even downright disgusted when somebody misspells Lindsey's name, "LindsAY"??? Well, same for me with Danny...
...it's KIRWAN, not Kirwin, or Kerwin, or Kirwen, or Kerwan....KIRWAN!!!!
I've actually only seen Danny's surname spelt Kirwin and Kirwan, wasn't very sure which one is right.
And you're right abput people getting annoyed when other people don't spell Lindsey's name right.(well, I get annoyed, anyway)
Doctor Brown
01-26-2003, 12:36 PM
Well with this having been an evolutionary process for me, my opinion is that they became less listenable in chronological order. Oh yes there were some standout tunes (Hypnotized etc), but a lot of it seemed like they were just going through the motions.
I originally liked Fleetwood Mac because of Peter, Jeremy, and Danny playing the blues. When I saw the "Kiln House" show, I could accept that quite easily because I had always been on the same plane as Jeremy, musically speaking. I thought it was great, because it highlighted my favorite performer. And I liked what he was playing.
What saved the show on their next tour was that Peter had come back. At the time, I didn't think that it was really Peter. Nothing to do with his playing or anything. I just had known that Peter had left, and I didn't expect to see him. I thought that it was a look-alike that had been put on stage to give the apperance that Peter was there. They played all the "Oh Well" Green Manalishi" 'Rattlesnake Shake" stuff. They did not play an extended jam of "Black Magic Woman" that had been reported being played elsewhere.
I remember being down front, directly in front of Peter. During one of the breaks I yelled out "What happened to Jerry" (as Spencer was referred to at that time"). Christine said "It looks like things are falling apart". That gives you an idea of what the band's morale was like at the time.
I always felt bad about dragging those words out of Chris. And I can imagine how Peter must have felt. But I was young and didn't realize what kind of impact that question might have on the group.
Well you can imagine how I recieved them the next time that they came to town. No Peter, no Jeremy. Danny and Chris were really good, but Bob Welsh was no Jeremy Spencer or Peter Green. Future Games was a good song though. And I remember lyrics to the song "What A Shame" that went something like "It's a God Damn Dirty Shame da da da da da". I don't remember any horns being played at that live show. And he played 'Lay It All Down" which alluded to Jeremy.
I didn't care for the Dave Walker period, he was OK in Savoy Brown, but that "Roadrunner" thing just turned me off. But I stuck with them and saw all the shows.
End of rant
Doc
wetcamelfood
01-26-2003, 02:07 PM
Thanks for the rant! I found it very informative! :)
Thanks a million for clearing up the LONG TME Rumour about that "return of Peter" tour not being "just long jams (etc.)" as I always though that sounded suspect as best (though if it did ever happen, I wouldn't have complained!) but it's good to finally get some truth on the matter. :)
I am sorry that we do have a difference of opinion on Welch, Walker, etc. but I can respect how much you like/prefer Jeremy and co. :)
If you can remember anything else about any 70-74 shows etc., please do post about it here as we never hear enough about this period of FM here and I would sure love to hear more of those rants (as I'm sure others here would too)! :)
John
chiliD
01-26-2003, 10:25 PM
My God, is there no end to the misspellings?? You people are trying my patience!! :laugh: :)
WELCH!!! not Welsh.
Mac Fan
01-27-2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by chiliD
WELCH!!! not Welsh.
Always seen it spelt 2 different ways. Someone actually spelt Lindsey's name a different way. He spelt it Lyndsey..(whgich looks very strange)
Doctor Brown
01-27-2003, 08:32 AM
Get Down ChilliD!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Guess I was so busy making sure all my other info was correct that I overlooked the spelling of Bob's name. I'll guarantee that it won't happen again.
John~ I didn't mean to imply that Bob WelCh was not good. He was very good! It's just that when you go to a show expecting your favorite group to be there, and to be playing a similar style of music that originally drew you to them, and they introduce someone in the lead spot who is so much different in appearance, style, and personality, it is somewhat of a let down.
As for Dave Walker. He also was good. But I had seen him with Savoy Brown, and to have him playing Motown with Fleetwood Mac was not my idea of what I wanted to hear.
Dave was a good musician and singer. But he had the bad timing of being a replacement in two groups, and although he was good, he was not, in my opinion, in the same league as his predecessors in either case, and was judged as such.
For you to do a retrospective study of the history of the group. It's easy to go in and say yeah, that's kind of cool. But I was interested in what was my perception of Fleetwood Mac, and no matter how good they were, they were never going to be that.
Doc
chiliD
01-27-2003, 08:54 AM
Despite being a Fleetwood Mac fan from the beginning, my first opportunity to SEE them in concert wasn't until 1974 (after having tickets to a 1973 concert that turned out to be the BOGUS band...a hip DJ announced that it was NOT Fleetwood Mac that was to appear, therefore I didn't go), so I already was WELL aware of the incarnation I was going to see.
I just kind of wonder how it is that so many people can go to a Fleetwood Mac show without knowing the personnel of the band ahead of time? :shrug:
I always remember seeing plenty of news regarding each personnel change. I can see that there'd be that "unknown" factor, that "hmmm, I wonder what the new guy/girl will sound like?" thing, but to be totally taken aback because the band has new people seems questionable. I say this mainly from the reaction of folks in 1987 to Lindsey not being in the band...there was TONS of media coverage of his leaving the band. And, even later when the "Time" lineup was on tour, it had been WELL documented at the end of the Behind The Mask tour that Christine & Stevie would be leaving the band; so, to see someone other than Stevie fronting the band should've come as no surprise.
Doctor Brown
01-27-2003, 09:40 AM
I understand what you are saying ChilliD. Especially about the later stuff.
But for me, I was a street person back then. Not homeless, but a hippie who was more interested in going out and scoring whatever, than to be paying attention to the news.
And even if I had heard something, I was always hoping that my heroes would return just as suddenly as they had vanished.
I'm talking about the late 60's here, and it seems that the possibility of bands breaking up, or people dying, or personell changes was kind of a new thing.
We were used to the artists that had seemed to have been around forever. My thoughts at the time were that if they were making money they would always be there. I soon learned that things were not that way.
I still have the newspaper article stating that Jeremy had joined the Children of God and was making a comeback at a local venue.
I think that Foghat was on the bill with Jeremy. I only saw about three shows at this particular venue. One was Fleetwood Mac and Savoy Brown. I think that Long John Baldry was also at that one or it was a different show with Savoy Brown. I have the ticket stubs but the names of the acts were not printed on them so I hand wrote what I wanted to retain.
Doc
David
01-27-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Brown
And even if I had heard something, I was always hoping that my heroes would return just as suddenly as they had vanished. Doc, you're one of the few Green fans I've encountered who was a diehard supporter of Green FM & grew to enjoy & respect the incarnations that came much later. Several of my co-workers, for example, are diehard Green fans & blues fans in general, & have extreme disdain for what they call the "sellout" years. Then I went to check out user reviews on Amazon or something for all the old Green FM albums, & most of them really despise the later FM incarnations.
I think serious blues & pop just don't mix for most folks. Guys like you & ChiliD & some others here are the exception rather than the rule.
Doctor Brown
01-27-2003, 10:33 AM
Hey David!
It was a tough pill to swollow for me too at first. I'm still a blues enthusiast at heart.
But in listening to their later stuff. The Fleetwood Mac sound is still there. It is not that far removed from some stuff from "Then Play On" or "Kiln House".
And every song on the "White Album" and "Rumors" is either hit material, or highly listenable, no matter what kind of music that you like. I hope that I am never so narrow-minded not to be able to recognize that.
And it's all Fleetwood Mac. I guess that helps!
Doc
wetcamelfood
01-27-2003, 11:04 AM
I knew what you meant (how you thought Welch was cool too etc.) so sure, I see what you're saying :) though I gotta agree with ChiliD to a degree here as well in that yes, there is the "unknown factor" etc. (as Chili describes above) and maybe ticket prices for concerts weren't as much back then as they are/seem to be these days (I personally wouldn't know as I hadn't seen FM or any live band for that matter until 1987), BUT assuming tix were around the same "amount of money" back then (and the prices have just simply risen with inflation etc.), "I" personally would find out all I could about a band I would fork out how many bucks to go and see in concert before I went to make sure (or, as sure as possible anyways...) that there were no "disappointments" (as such) in store for me such as the type that you unfortunately encountered.
I realize there are many people that can just go to a concert in a willy nilly, "general" way etc. as that is obviously what "touring" is all about, to get those at the show that are unfamiliar with the records to go and buy them. However, and without breaking out the violins, I, as well as other blue collar folk I know certainly am not (and will likely never be...) in the financial position to just say "oh (so & so) is playing in town tonight and it cost $100 per ticket, well, we don't know much about what's going on with them but let's go cash our paychecks, forget the bills this week and go the show anyways". I sure would love to be in such a position like tose "general" concert goers but if it was costing me a lot of money, I'd want to find out what I could about the artist before buying a ticket (or at least before I go to the show), like when you go and buy a car, you don't just close your eyes spin around a few times in the show room and whichever car your pointing at when you open your eyes is the car you'll buy, you'd want to look in to things first (obviously buying concert ticks is a much smaller situation in comparison, I'm just giving an example that I'm sure many here can relate to).
I'm not saying "you were wrong" for doing what you did (or didn't do as the case may be) as I also realize that there were not as many resources back then as their are now (internet, etc.) but I would've at least gone to look at the records (by the artists I was going to go and see in concert) in the record store to check and see what the latest lineup was or whatever (OK, cue TITN example, Lindsey on album, not on tour, so I'd try and double check it by picking up whatever mags were around back then etc. as in the case of TITN, I'm most certain that LB's departure and the addition of Burnette/Vito was widely covered). It's like "I" personally don't watch C-SPAN etc., but I'm aware of the fighting going on with Saddam etc. same kinda deal (but obviously on a much smaller scale once again). I guess I'd feel better if I went to a show and was disappointed with it that at least I could walk away knowing that I tried to investigate it before hand, I wouldn't always think later on if I was strapped for cash "gee, if I had only looked around and saw that (so & so) have left the band and that they were replaced by people with a much different musical background and they are doing a different kind of music now then I would've reconsidered going and I would have been able to save that money for now".
Well, it's JMHO and I'm glad that you do enjoy Welch's work etc. as well (as I knew you did/do). I guess I needed to grow up in the 60's to appreciate what things were like and why things turned out that way for you at the show, I'm sure you had good reason to "think the way you did" with not being used to personnel changes in bands etc. like you were saying I've just noticed above. :)
John
chiliD
01-27-2003, 11:45 AM
BUT assuming tix were around the same "amount of money" back then (and the prices have just simply risen with inflation etc.),
Actually, no...the percentage of income it takes to go to a concert nowadays is probably 5x's what it was just 15 years ago.
I remember buying tickets to the 1987 FMac tour for $20 each, sat in what would now be $90-120 seats. Considering the "service charges" at Ticketmaster nowadays is more than some TICKET prices at concerts I went to in the late '70's, it's well beyond "inflation"...it's greed.
Doctor Brown
01-27-2003, 12:54 PM
Thanks for trying to save me there John. But no, I wasn't paying that much attention. I had all the albums and that was what I was expecting to hear. Hell we were stoned most of the time and were just going to see the shows we liked. Plus we weren't expecting any changes at first.
I think tickets were between $8 and $12. and that was high. I had seen a show with The James Gang, Jethro Tull, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Box Tops, and a couple of other bands for $3.
This again was the time frame between when the Kiln House tour and the Future Games tour took place. So it was not a long period of time. And I was going to see Fleetwood Mac no matter what anyway. So I wouldn't have shopped it.
And I was about 18 years old
Doc
becca
01-27-2003, 03:11 PM
Music, bands, creators, times; they all change and evolve and experiment. So many fans (short for fanatic) want to just listen to one thing over and over and over and demand artists do just the one thing over and over in slight variations. The thing is that most musicians and artists may be mimics and imitators in part like Jeremy Spencer was maybe the best at (though I see total red when these Brits say he was better than Elmore James, grrrr, it's like saying Elvis was better than Chuck Berry or something), anyway, most artists want to try new things and get bored imitating or even imitating themself. Green and Welch are both great examples of musicians who moved on and took risks, because if you don't there never would have been anything for there to be fans of in the first place. Sometimes I really hate fans and the effect they have on music and many other forms of artistic expression. If you are driven by following the fans you are not leading where you want to go. The best thing that could have happened for the Beatles (other than Ringo maybe) is that they broke up. Hurray! The best thing to happen to Peter Green and FM was that they parted ways. I think every album was interesting, even Tusk which I felt ripped off by when it came out. But some people love that album and I'm glad it was done. I have heaped scorn on it at times and Jeremy Spencer's pastiches of other people's styles showing great technical skill but often seeming to be making fun of the material. I shouldn't do that, but I can say I doubt that FM would have gone far on Spencer's creativity or on self indulgent double albums like Tusk.
The trouble with fans is that they are fanatical and they close off from appreciating anything that is not fitting into the specific thing they are devoted to for whatever reason. Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, Spencer and Kirwan was a great white blues band. They did some great original tunes and some eerie covers. Where could it have gone? Who knows, we only know where it did go. It changed, it evolved. That is more interesting that what happened with say Chicken Shack, an equally good group with Stan Webb. Who remembers Alexis Korner like they do this stuff? And a lot of it is because this band went on to have radio friendly hits lots of people bought copies of than bought blues records. I had Then Play On around when I was little but outside of the blues fanatic ghetto I doubt anyone else much would have ever heard FM had they just kept doing that one style of thing. The blues has everything to do with rock music's development, but in some ways it is like mento is to ska and ska is to reggae, for awhile there was a bunch of white guys in England going back to the original sound as much as they could but it was really just a three to five year nostalgia trip disconnected from what else was going on at the time. When you are travelling backwards you reach an already recognized end, while travelling forward you don;t know the end. FM went on to connect to the outside world more and more, reaching outside of the mimicry or pastiches which had no future. They looked forward, Spencer sure couldn't. In some ways the white blues are a 1960s oddity anyway I think. Maybe one day white rap will seem the same, I don't know. Even the material I enjoy I find something a little bit arrogant about it, like they are stealing. I really think Green, and Kirwan for the short period he really was into it, expanded on it without that residue of arrogance, but I can't say this for many of the white blues artists. I mean you could still see many of the creators of the blues but what made the teenybopper hippies spend money was the white cover artists just like always. The musicans had all the race records and knew who they all were and saw them perform, but the Stones and Animals and so forth made most of the money and fame, and somehow it never trickled down to their inspirations or people finding out more about them.
Peter Green is still around, when he wasn't that was up to him. Hating what FM went on to become just serves to show how close minded someone can be. I am glad to see there are a few exceptions. To be honest the blues fans would tend to put me off of checking out the old FM stuff because they act like it's their personal property. Even though the musicans themselves moved on long ago. Fans are like that. I'm glad they don't run everything, I don't trust their judgement on creative matters but trust the creative people. I would like to think all religions are everyone's property in some sense, I would like to think that about all music. I don't need to stick to one kind for an identity, and I don't ever want to live in the past but do want to be informed by it. There will be a new FM album out and I am going to do my best not to despise it. :^)
Doctor Brown
01-27-2003, 04:09 PM
Well becca, I don't know what to say. Good, I guess.
Is what you said there, what you got out of our posts? I don't see anything wrong with what you said, I'm just curious.
Oh, I could debate some of those points with you, but it would be splitting hairs. But I will if you wish. Just to talk about them.
Thanks,
Doc
becca
01-27-2003, 11:06 PM
I just went off on a jag from a line or two in this thread, and a line or two in other recent threads, and just the whole Peter Green or Buckingham/Nicks centric camps. It's a rant against close mindedness and admitting to my own I guess, as well as not making the past out to have been some great perfect zenith that evaporated through cruel fate alone or the creators blowing it. There will always be things you don't get or like about anything but it comes with it because without any downs there are no ups either. Hope I wasn't too negative. I can have reasons for not liking something but I do respect others can get something else from it. I think Mick Fleetwood said something about how Dave Walker was kind of foisted upon them to try to bring them back to classic blues and they had moved on. I personally love his Derelict song with them on Penguin, but I think they did the right thing, so who can disagree with the creators of the music themselves? So often from the outside fans do feel artists have lost their minds and blown it, and maybe sometimes later on the artists might even agree. My favorite group of the last while Stereolab seems to always be changing personel and surprising people at concerts, but two people have been there throughout, kind of like Fleetwood and McVie have been. And the group Yes was always changing line ups and really surprising the fans at the concerts with who would actually be on stage. At one time you could find the 'classic or original' Yes more on another title CD than on actual Yes releases. I agree Welch is a different thing to get from either Green or Spencer and I'd be disappointed on that basis to some extent.
I have seen 'Welsh' and 'Kirwen' used in official CD releases, makes you wonder about how interested the companies are sometimes.
Mac Fan
01-31-2003, 11:04 AM
Can we please stop going OT? It's very annoying.
chiliD
01-31-2003, 12:20 PM
Hmmm, maybe it's just me :shrug:, but I don't see where anything in this thread is "OT". Each post is relevant to the one before it. Maybe it is just the way my mind's stream of consciousness works, though. :shrug:
Mac Fan
01-31-2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by chiliD
Hmmm, maybe it's just me :shrug:, but I don't see where anything in this thread is "OT". Each post is relevant to the one before it. Maybe it is just the way my mind's stream of consciousness works, though. :shrug:
Well, it doesn't look like you lot are talking about FM during 1971-1974.
chiliD
01-31-2003, 12:59 PM
Well, it doesn't look like you lot are talking about FM during 1971-1974.
Hmmmm, other than a response here or there, most of the posts mention either Spencer or Kirwan or Welch or Dave Walker...all members of Fleetwood Mac somewhere in that era...:shrug:
...ironically, if anything has been OT has been our last three posts. :laugh:
Johnny Stew
01-31-2003, 08:06 PM
I can understand how veering off-course from the original topic, can be annoying to many people... but I've always loved how we tend to do that around here.
Goofy, I know, but it feels like a conversation with your friends or family... you start out talking about one thing, which leads into another and another, and eventually you come back to the original topic at hand. :)
Anyway, I greatly enjoy the band's output from '71 - '74.
Like most people, I became a fan of the band while Lindsey and Stevie were members (the first time!), so I worked my way backwards to the band's blues beginnings.
I had a little bit of trouble getting into the very first three albums (I took a shine to 'Then Play On' right away though), but I eventually developed a huge appreciation for that era of the band's sound.
I had no such trouble with the Welch & McVie era, as it's more along the lines of the music I was already listening to at the time.
That was a great period in the band's history... a little unstable, yes, but they still produced some amazing material.
Johnny Stew
wondergirl9847
02-01-2003, 03:19 PM
I LOVE M2M, Bare Trees and Future Games. They each have a unique sound to them. Future Games is very etheral sounding, Bare Trees has a meloncholy thread running through it and M2M is very industrial sounding (to me, anyways. LOL). My fave of the three is Bare Trees...because I love Danny. :D
I like Bob Welch's jazzy tone especially on Future Games, what a wierd, neat song!!
Mac Fan
02-02-2003, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I LOVE M2M, Bare Trees and Future Games. They each have a unique sound to them. Future Games is very etheral sounding, Bare Trees has a meloncholy thread running through it and M2M is very industrial sounding (to me, anyways. LOL). My fave of the three is Bare Trees...because I love Danny. :D
I like Bob Welch's jazzy tone especially on Future Games, what a wierd, neat song!!
Thank you for posting that.
When I find it, I think I'll get Bare Trees.
One question, is there a Greatest Hits/Best Of from this era?
Sofie
macfan 57
02-02-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by Mac Fan
One question, is there a Greatest Hits/Best Of from this era?
Sofie
Unfortunately, there is no Greatest Hits collection from the Bob Welch era that I know about. But, there definitely should be, in my opinion.
Mac Fan
02-02-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by macfan 57
Unfortunately, there is no Greatest Hits collection from the Bob Welch era that I know about. But, there definitely should be, in my opinion.
Thanks, it would actually be nice to have a Greatest Hits album from this era.
Sofie
One question, is there a Greatest Hits/Best Of from this era?
All the songs are 'best of or hits' from this era......just get all the lps...you won't be disappointed Sofie! :)
Start with Bare Trees...classic Kirwan
Joe :wavey:
Cristian
02-02-2003, 12:04 PM
I remember we actually did a topic a while ago concerning which tracks could a compilation like this feature... And we came to interesting results. Perhaps more people could add their lists now... the topic can be found here:
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7242
And it's a good guide (I think) to begin discovering these "new" tracks for us younger fans. :)
Song of the moment - Woman Of A Thousand Years
Mac Fan
02-02-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by jwd
Start with Bare Trees...classic Kirwan
Joe :wavey:
I did ask to get that one for Xmas, oh well I'll just get it in April, if I have enough left after getting the new album.
Sofie
Denmeister99
02-07-2003, 06:54 PM
I'd love to see a best of compilation from this period.
Hopefully, they'd include The Purple Dancer, which as yet
is not available on CD.
Personally, I think the Anthology format would work better.
Then all those extra tracks like Purple Dancer, Trinity, and others could be included. If you went back to the Then Play On period single B sides: World in Harmony and Somebody's Gonna Get their head Kicked in Tonite, and A sides: Green Manalishi, Dragonfly, and Man of the World could also be added. Not to mention, the entire Jeremy Spencer solo album and B side Teenage Darling.
With the highlights of Then Play On, Kiln House, Future
Games, Bare Trees, could be a 2 CD set easy.
The chances of this happening?
I think Hell freezing over first is more likely.
maybe not, who knows.........................:distress: :confused::shrug:
chiliD
02-08-2003, 01:58 AM
I'd like to see a LIVE box set from the 71-74 era.
Disc 1: Kiln House tour material (both before AND after Jeremy's departure)
Disc 2: Future Games/Bare Trees tours material
Disc 3: Penguin/Mystery To Me tours (a couple of tunes with Dave Walker on vocals, then the rest MTM tour stuff)
Disc 4: Heroes Are Hard To Find tour (more than just the Will The Real Fleetwood Mac Please Stand Up? stuff)
macfan 57
02-08-2003, 06:10 AM
I agree with everyone here. A live box set or something like the Blue Horizon box set would be perfect. I'd take anything from this period. Right now, I have only 2 live bootleg CDs from the Heroes lineup, that's it. I also agree with Denmeister99. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any chance in the world of it ever happening.:)
I remember we actually did a topic a while ago concerning which tracks could a compilation like this feature... And we came to interesting results. Perhaps more people could add their lists now
I'll go with tracks from Future Games, Bare Trees, Penguin, Mystery To Me, and Heroes Are Hard To Find lps
FUTURE GAMES
Woman Of A Thousand Years
Future Games
Sands Of Time
Show Me A Smile
BARE TREES
Child Of Mine
The Ghost
Homeward Bound
Sunny Side Of Heaven
Bare Trees
Sentimental Lady
Spare Me A Little Of your Love
Dust
Thoughts On A Grey Day......edit(out)..... :laugh: I've come to love Mrs. Scarrot over the years though. :)
PENGUIN
Revelation
Did You Ever Love Me
MYSTERY TO ME
Emerald Eyes
Just Crazy Love
Hypnotized
Keep On Going
Why
HEROES ARE HARD TO FIND
Bermuda Triangle
Bad Loser
Silver Heels
Prove Your Love
Well that's 23 songs. There's more I could've added to this list, especially from the last three lps. These just happen to be my personal favorites.
I like the idea of releasing a live lp from this era but I doubt if it will ever happen. :distress:
Joe
Mac Fan
02-08-2003, 01:26 PM
Thanks for posting that, JVB.
I mgiht download some of these later.
Sofie
becca
02-08-2003, 03:16 PM
I couldn't live without Sometimes and Show Me A Smile from Future Games, but then that's why I wouldn't buy a FM best of anyway, well unless maybe just for Dragonfly and Purple Dancer or other not easy to get on CD if at all tracks.
Does anyone know what became of Mrs. Scarrot? I'd imagine she is 'dust' by now.
macfan 57
02-08-2003, 03:24 PM
Well, these would be my 20 favorites from this era:
Kiln House:
Station Man
Future Games:
Future Games
Show Me A Smile
Bare Trees:
Homeward Bound
Sunny Side Of Heaven
Sentimental Lady
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Dust
Penguin:
Remember Me
Did You Ever Love Me
Mystery To Me:
Emerald Eyes
Hypnotized
Keep On Going
The Way I Feel
For Your Love
Why
Heroes Are To Find:
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
She's Changing Me
Prove Your Love
I really don't even mind poor Mrs. Scarrot poem anymore. I would imagine that she is no longer with us by now. The only songs I really don't like on all of these albums are Dave Walker's 2 songs on Penguin.
Does anyone know what became of Mrs. Scarrot? I'd imagine she is 'dust' by now.
:laugh:
I'm thinking Mrs. Scarrot will live on forever! ;)
Joe
Mac Fan
02-11-2003, 10:52 AM
What's/who is Mrs. Scarrot?:confused: :confused:
chiliD
02-11-2003, 11:02 AM
She's the old lady who lived next door to the band when they were in Benifolds...she recites her poem "Thoughts On A Grey Day" as the final track on the Bare Trees album.
shackin'up
02-11-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by thewhitewingedd
Yeah ...I kind of think the days of this Fleetwood Mac era is over seeing as Mick does very little to even allow their existance in our minds....
But as for the box set idea....I would like to see all the albums compiled into a set like that...With the b-sides and anything else that comes from that era...Maybe some Live tracks too...I really think that would be the best way to release remastered album tracks myself...Instead of remastering each individual album at a time...Remaster them all , stick them in a box, let me buy it:)
Adam:)
Okay, well put, Adam: I'll buy that one too!
Actually, one month ago I ordered Kiln House Heroes are hard to find, Bare trees, Penguin, Mystery to me, and Future games on CD in one buy! (I payed 56 Euro's for six CD's!) Just in the local record store, here in Nijmegen the Netherlands. I did that, just to keep my vinyl versions in shape. In the store people were amazed: they saw mac-covers they really hadn't seen before, so i proposed to them: let me choose one song from each album, and you play them in one row in the store.
I chose: Jeweleyed judy, Bermuda Triangle, Show me a Smile, Revelation, hypnotized and spare me a little.
A lot of reactions from the public (just a few were there), and a kick by giving a small maclecture to young recordsellers.
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