The Early Years - Fleetwood Mac DVD

[goweropolis]

Anyone out there have this? How is it? Is it worth my money if I'm a rabid early-Fleetwood Mac fan?

[chiliD]

I don't have the DVD, but I've got it on LaserDisc...it's Fleetwood Mac, damned straight it's worth it!!!! ;)

Some of the shots are lip sync'd, some are played live...two are just a montage of stills over the album cut (the latter are "Black Magic Woman" at the beginning, "Green Manalishi" at the end)

Two in particular (both live) are worth the price of admission:

1) After one song, Danny breaks a string, meanwhile, Peter plays a killer "The World Keeps On Turning" while Danny changes the string.

2) "Rattlesnake Shake" from the old TV show, "Playboy After Dark" with Hef introducing them as "THE Fleetwood Mac" :)

[goweropolis]

Thanks for the info ChiliD. Would it be possible for you to type out a track listing and identify which are lip-synched and which are live?

[becca]

Wow, wish they'd put the string breaking set on teevee sometime for us LD and DVD resisters (I didn't break down and get a CD player of my own until 1996, having mixers and turntables and crates of records around helped put it off).

I wonder how much Playboy after dark stuff is available, am curious to see Sweetwater's appearance too. I see they have a series of Mike Douglas Show Day by Day with Lennon and Ono hosting. I'd buy the tv stuff Cass Elliot hosted I'm sure. There was someone selling tapes he was making of a lot of stuff and I think he had some olf FM from tv appearances too, so tempting but I am just curious to see these things once mostly.

[chiliD]

"The Early Years" is available on VHS, too! ;) :nod:

[wetcamelfood]

I have it here, let's see:

BLACK MAGIC WOMAN (they just play the studio version in the background during the opening credits and as a biography is narrated (VERY quickly!))

MY HEART BEAT LIKE A HAMMER (lip synch)

SHAKE YOUR MONEYMAKER (lip synch)

I'M WORRIED (live)

LIKE IT THIS WAY (live)

THE WORLD KEEP ON TURNING (live)

STOP MESSIN' 'ROUND (they just play the studio version of the song in the background while we are shown some still photos of the band and it's members)

ALBATROSS (lip synch)

NEED YOU LOVE SO BAD (lip synch)

MAN OF THE WORLD (lip synch)

LIKE CRYING (live)

LINDA (live)

OH WELL (lip synch to the Boston Tea Party version)

RATTLESNAKE SHAKE (live)

THE GREEN MANALISHI (they play some of the Boston Tea Party live version while they show us some more photos and during the end credits)

I agree with ChiliD that it is VERY annoying knowing that there are other GREAT live clips in existance from the same sources they used ("Oh well" from the same show that "Like crying" & "Linda" are from, "Coming your way" from the "Playboy after dark" episode that "Rattlesnake shake" on here is taken from, "Rattlesnake shake" from the same show that "I'm worried", "Like it this way" & "The world keep on turning" are from etc.) and didn't use them BUT the ones that ARE here are worth it alone! Hope that helps! :)

John

[goweropolis]

Thanks a bunch John!

[Dugan]

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
ALBATROSS (lip synch)



Are you sure it's LIP Synched?

:laugh: :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

hmm... that brings up a good question!
What *do* you call it if a band "goes thru the motions" for a video of an instrumental track?

"Pre-recorded soundtrack" sounds a bit fussy, but I guess that would describe it.



Johnny Stew

[Dugan]

How about using the British term for lip sync, "Mimed".

[Johnny Stew]

"Mimed" isn't bad... though it makes me think of Marcel Marceau!
:laugh:


Johnny Stew

[wetcamelfood]

This figures, I originally tried to post that listing last Sunday and I had originally remembered about this fact and I put in the joke next to the "Albatross" listing something to the effect of "if you can call an instrumental a "lip" synch that is HAHA" or whatever but when I went to hit "post message", the ledge had been closed down while I was in there typing away (so naturally, it didn't accept it) so I must have forgotten to retype that "joke" in when I did eventually get the chance to repost it a few days later when the ledge reopened. Just my luck! :)

John

[Ms Moose]

I hope it is OK to re-open an old thread.....

Can anybody help me solve this mystery?

On the cover of my DVD copy of "Fleetwood Mac - The Early Years" - it says that the DVD contains rarely seen footage (the same numbers as mentioned above), and that :"there is also interviews with band members of both the original and later line ups.."

My copy does not contain any interviews.

In Hjorts book (p.274) - under the heading 4th of december 1969 - it says that on the groups arrival in Detroit they are guests on a tv show on Channel 62. They perform "Oh Well", and Peter Green is interviewed by dj Dave Dixon from local radio station WABX. According to Hjort "this brief sequence is later resurrected for the video "The Early Years of Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac"."

:confused:

Does anyone here know whether there has been many different versions of this video?

Ms Moose

[emeraldeyes38]

There are some Dvd's of "Playboy After Dark" on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_4?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=Playboy%20After%20Dark&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3APlayboy%20After%20Dark%2Ci%3Apopular

I also have a "boot" dvd of performaces of Linda Ronstadt, smokey robison, Sir Douglas band and a bunch more. Fleetwood Mac included.

Maybe there are some others listed on Ebay. :cool:Sharon

[doodyhead]

I hope it is OK to re-open an old thread.....

Can anybody help me solve this mystery?


My copy does not contain any interviews.

In Hjorts book (p.274) - under the heading 4th of december 1969 - it says that on the groups arrival in Detroit they are guests on a tv show on Channel 62. They perform "Oh Well", and Peter Green is interviewed by dj Dave Dixon from local radio station WABX. According to Hjort "this brief sequence is later resurrected for the video "The Early Years of Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac"."
:confused:
Does anyone here know whether there has been many different versions of this video?

Ms Moose
I guess There is a difference between the DVD and the VHS because there ae snippits of the interviews there, such as they are. The Dixon interview looks like it was done in a basement and Peter was unaware that the "Archies " was a made up group to go along with the cartoon but did know that they was a bigger hit than albatross, There was also footage from the film about John Mayall "The Turning Point" made in 1969-70 where Peter Mick and John discuss the influence of Mayall to them. Peter is wearing a horizontal stripped shirt in that one. There are a few pictures floating around with him wearing that . I guess I was lucky. i ordered the DVD on Amazon UK and I got the VHS tape instead

vinnie c

[wetcamelfood]

There was also footage from the film about John Mayall "The Turning Point" made in 1969-70 where Peter Mick and John discuss the influence of Mayall to them. Peter is wearing a horizontal stripped shirt in that one. There are a few pictures floating around with him wearing that

I have the one with the blue cover in the snap case and mine doesn't have this, though the VHS of it I used to have of it (first PAL white cover, then NTSC firey kind of color) didn't have it either but I got the John Mayall DVD doc which has the TP film as an extra anyways, so I'm happy. :)

John

[Ms Moose]

Thank you very much everybody for the information. I will try out some of your suggestions.

I didn't know that there was a John Mayall DVD around. Great! I have just bought tickets to go and see him and The Bluesbreakers here in Copenhagen in july. Just wish PG would swim over from Sweden for the occation :laugh: If he still lives there that is...

Excuse me Wetcamelfood - what is a TP film?

Ms Moose

[wetcamelfood]

Thank you very much everybody for the information. I will try out some of your suggestions.

I didn't know that there was a John Mayall DVD around. Great! I have just bought tickets to go and see him and The Bluesbreakers here in Copenhagen in july. Just wish PG would swim over from Sweden for the occation :laugh: If he still lives there that is...

Excuse me Wetcamelfood - what is a TP film?

Ms Moose

Sorry Moose, TP was for the 1969 "Turning Point" Mayall film which Peter & John (McVie) appear in which is an extra feature on the Mayall DVD doc, which I found on region 2 (or well, "all regions") for you here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Mayall-Godfather-British-Turning/dp/B000216XGC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1206483886&sr=1-6

Guess I thought since someone mentioned it earlier in this thread it'd be known but I know I have to stop being lazy and type this stuff out. :)

John

[Ms Moose]

Thank you very much. This site is a goldmine of information! I have ordered a copy of TP :D right away.

I agree with ChiliD that it is VERY annoying knowing that there are other GREAT live clips in existance from the same sources they used ("Oh well" from the same show that "Like crying" & "Linda" are from, "Coming your way" from the "Playboy after dark" episode that "Rattlesnake shake" on here is taken from, "Rattlesnake shake" from the same show that "I'm worried", "Like it this way" & "The world keep on turning" are from etc.) and didn't use them BUT the ones that ARE here are worth it alone! Hope that helps! :)

John

Yes, this sentiment comes up quite often here and on the PG site. It is so frustrating to know that there most be tapes in abundance (or maybe I am just dreaming) laying around in the vaults of all kinds of obscure television channels in Europe and the US.

But you are right John we must enjoy what we have, and go :] when something new comes up - like when "The Surprise Party" from France 1968came up on YouTube last year.

Ms Moose

[zoork_1]

Early Mac at Dime some day ago (e.g alt. Stockholm 1970) ....

/Z

[Ms Moose]

I ordered my copy of "John Mayall - The Godfather of British Blues" right away (thank you for the link, John).

"Turning Point" is a great film to watch - it is like a time machine - it transports you right back to another time and place - where playing music - in itself - was ok and no one worried about smoking or which hair-care product to use.

There was also footage from the film about John Mayall "The Turning Point" made in 1969-70 where Peter Mick and John discuss the influence of Mayall to them. Peter is wearing a horizontal stripped shirt in that one. There are a few pictures floating around with him wearing that .

I wish that the interview on Mayall's influence could have been much longer and hope that all the "cut-off's" didn't end up in some waste paper basket!
A thing that strikes me about Peter Green (in TP) is that he does not seem so very much different in the way he came across then compared to the way he talks now - as seen on the "Man of the World" DVD for instance. It surprised me because you often get the idea that his illness changed him COMPLETELY.

I think the striped T-shirt is the same on he is wearing on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCraPBqBAXI

They certainly weren't sponsered by Cucci in those days :lol:

Ms Moose

P.S. Does anyone here know how to become an "Addicted Ledgie"? Sounds intrigueing.

[doodyhead]

P.S. Does anyone here know how to become an "Addicted Ledgie"? Sounds intrigueing.

keep posting:)

[Ms Moose]

keep posting:)

Like posting in any thread or do one get more points when starting a thread?

In any case I will have to get busy and creative to reach the 1.000 or more postings it takes to become an addicted ledgie (or so it seems)!

Ms Moose