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Nicks Fan
07-21-2002, 09:23 PM
Fleetwood Mac Album Reviews

1. Greatest Hits: After 13 years and six albums, it seemed the perfect time for the new "Fleetwood Mac" to release their first greatest hits package and for the most part it is well worth a listen. Having established themselves as a blues band in the late 60's early 70's they had yet to establish themselves in the United States until they released the more pop oriented "Fleetwood Mac" in 1975 which introduced Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham to the group of which also consisted of John Mcvie, Christine Mcvie and Mick Fleetwood. Since then they have gone through allot including a 5 year hiatus between albums before staging a massive comeback with 1987's "Tango In The Night". However Lindsey Buckingham was only persuaded to make the album, but left the group after doing so and was replaced by fellow guitar players, Rick Vito and Billy Burnette. They can be heard on two new cuts on the hits album a Christine Mcvie song called "As Long As You Follow" as well as a Stevie Nicks song called " No Questions Asked" both of which are good additions to the Mac repertoire. Overall the album is good with hits ranging from "Rhiannon" to "Hold Me", however one of my favourites “Seven Wonders” is missing from the collection as are the b - side rarity “Silver Springs” and “Gold Dust Woman”. However that doesn't mean that this album is in anyway bad. Best song on the album: Sara Review: **** out of five


2. Rumours: With the release of “Rumours” the second album released from the new and more popular "Fleetwood Mac" it was clear that the band had grown and matured since we last had heard them. While the album was made during a troubling time in the lives of many of the band's members, (Relationships were ending) the album never suffers as a result. Every song is masterful in their own way. Stevie has allot to offer ranging from the rockin "Gold Dust Woman" to the more pop sounding "Dreams". Christine Mcvie is at her best with pop flavoured hits such as "You Make Loving Fun”, but she reaches her peak with the wonderful ballad "Songbird" played with only a piano and her wonderful voice. The band is in full force during "The Chain" one of the best songs on the album and a killer when heard live. Sure the production is basically more of the same from the last album but the production is slicker and grittier. It won the 1977 Album of the year at the Grammy Awards and it was well deserved. Best Song On The Album: Songbird
Review: ***** out of five

3. The Dance: When the original band broke up with departure of Lindsey in 1987 and Stevie in 1993 it was clear that the band's days were numbered with two key factors in their successes gone. The last Mac Album, 1995’s "Time" crashed and burned with no one noticing so when the band announced plans for a reunion concert special (Marking the 20th anniversary of their groundbreaking album “Rumours”) and plans for a live album / tour to follow it was speculated that a full fledged reunion was in store. That hasn't exactly happened. (Christine has chosen not to participate in a new album) This live album begins with a great version of their hit "The Chain" which still sounds good even after 20 years. Then it is on to a series of Fleetwood Mac hits ranging from "Dreams" , "Everywhere" (A vast improvement on the original version) Big Love (Another improvement over the original) and "Say You Love Me". Along the way the band treats us to some great new material ranging form Lindsey's Rock and Roll sounding "My Little Demon" and a great new song from Stevie called "Sweet Girl". Christine also submits a great new song called "Temoorary One". The Usc Marching band who recorded "Tusk" the title track from the 1979 album returns to assist in performing that song as well as a rousing new version of "Don't Stop" which ironically was used as Bill Clintons Campaign Song. Other Great stuff includes Stevies Paino /Rock Version of "Rhiannon wich is a classic song. The standout on the album is the crowd pleasing hit that never made it on the classic "Rumours" album, a love song called "Silver Springs", which brought the house down at the taping and is still my all time favourite Mac Track. A landmark Fleetwood Mac album that proves their 70's success was very richly deserved.
Best Song On The Album: Silver Springs
Review: ***** out of five

4. Fleetwood Mac: When a new line-up was announced for the UK band Fleetwood Mac it was unclear whether the new line-up would be able to finally parlay their Success overseas in The United States. They did finally find success with the top 10 hit "Rhiannon" as well as hits ranging from Christine Mcvie's "Over My Head" to a cover of Lindsey and Stevie's "Crystal" from their 1973 album "Buckingham Nicks" which did so poorly their record company dropped them. Other hits like "Landslide" and "Say You Love Me" are also featured on this album, which marks a turning point for the band who had no idea just how big they would become in a little over a year.
Best Song On The Album: Rhiannon Review : **** out of five

5. Tango In The Night: With the release of "Tango In The Night" in the summer of 1987, it marked a stellar return for the band that hadn't released anything since 1982's "Mirage". While Lindsey Buckingham did not tour with the band he did sing and produce the record with long-time Mac collaborator Richard Dashut and they have done a good job for the most part. “Big Love” and “Everywhere” are the only real misfires (Better heard live on "The Dance") The tracks are all over the map with a great Mac song called "Seven Wonders" and another good one called "Little Lies". Stevie succeeds with "Welcome To The Room... Sara" a song with profound lyrics and great rhythm. Lindsey even gets his trademark Guitar solos with the albums title track. Unfortunately it was to be his last album with the band before returning ten years later for the reunion album / tour.
Best Song On The Album: Seven Wonders
Review: **** out of five

6. Mirage: After the band explored new musical styles and met with mixed results on their last album 1979's "Tusk" (Not counting the 1980 live album they made) they went back to the drawing board and they have come up with an offering that should please most Fleetwood Mac fans but more discriminating listeners may find this offering too safe. The band tries many different musical styles and comes up with only one really good tune, the intriguing "Gypsy" which seemed tailor made for Stevie's raspy voice. Other songs do impress like the lead single "Hold Me” with Lindsey and the band seemingly having a good time on the song, which has no conviction but is a fun tune just the same. Other standouts include "That's Allright" and "Can't Go Back" The problem for me is that some of the songs are just average. Most of the album just doesn't have any depth or conviction in the musical numbers. The songs, which range from the slow love song "Oh Diane" to the disappointing "Eyes of The World" just, do not play well to any kind of audience. The album is a good one , but don't expect anything in the vein of "Rumours" or even "Tango In The Night"
Best Song On The Album: Gypsy

7. Tusk: With the bar set so high for Fleetwood Mac after the enormous success of their last studio album "Rumours" it was surprising just how different a direction they took musically. It has long been known that most people treated this album as a mediocre album however die hard fans and even non fans found this harder edged rock in roll album quite good. "Tusk" was the idea of guitar player / singer Lindsey Buckingham who wanted to make an album on a smaller budget and the result is a 2 record set with a varying degree of songs. "Tusk", the albums title track recorded with the USC Marching Band is a great rock tune while the ballads "Storms" and "Sara" are magical songs that prove just how much of an enchanting voice Stevie Nicks has. Christine Mcvie fares best with "Brown Eyes" and "Never Forget" while Buckingham does a good job with the hit single "The Ledge". Overall the album is good, but since allot of the material is radically different then the usual it makes it a tough sell.
Best Song On The Album: Sara Review: *** out of five

8. Behind The Mask: With the absence of key writer Lindsey Buckingham it was assumed that prolific writers Christine Mcvie and Stevie Nicks would pick up the slack, but they did not. Unwisely choosing to allow the new recruits to write songs for the bands first studio album of new material (Not counting the 1988 "Greatest Hits Album which had the two new singles "As Long As You Follow" and "No Questions Asked" included) proved to be a mistake. The album went gold but was the first Mac album not to be certified Double Platinum which was a shame since what songs made the cut are all pretty good. What works is the fact that even though it was 1990 the band still manages to come up with some good material ranging from the top 10 lead single "Skies The Limit" to the Stevie Nicks tune "Affairs of The Heart". "Love Is Dangerous" a duet between Nicks and fellow band member Rick Vito is a good little rock song with a good use of guitars and drums. One disapointment is that none of Stevie's contributions to the album were relased as singles even though "Affairs of The Heart" and "The Second Time" are both solid efforts A solid effort from the group even without Lindsey Buckingham. Best Song On The Album: Skies The Limit
Review: **** out of five

wondergirl9847
07-21-2002, 09:34 PM
*** out of five!!!

OMG! :eek: Tusk is greatness!! I must say that Tusk is "wierd" at first listen because it's not the usual Fleetwood Mac "fare", but I've given it countless spins and it's steadily taking over as my favorite FM album...which is right now a tie between Tango in the Night and Rumours. :nod: I've been listening to it lately with a new ear to the "wierd" songs, like The Ledge, Save Me a Place and Not That Funny because Lindsey forces me to listen to him INTENTLY! ;) BTW, it WAS the last Lindsey/Stevie era album I bought BECAUSE I read so many "bad" things about it. All I'm sayin is give it another chance, it will grow on ya.....ask Audra (Greta). :nod:

BTW....Welcome to the Ledge!! Enjoy posting! :thumbsup:

wondergirl9847
07-21-2002, 11:55 PM
I don't think The Ledge was a single..I just checked The Penguin Singles Discography and it's not listed, maybe Matt just likes the song alot! :nod: It's a fun song, once you get over it's quirkyness!! :thumbsup:

Nicks Fan
07-22-2002, 11:18 AM
I admit I made a mistake. I meant to say that The Ledge is a good song and that it could have been a hit single. Sorry for the goof up.

Robert
07-22-2002, 06:21 PM
Now lindsey did do some of his songs on Tusk at home but by no means was this album done on a 'smaller budget'.In fact there was plenty of publicity about this Lp being the first to cost over a million dollars.I think the grand total was 1.2 million ,a huge amount for an Lp in 1979.

Cristian
07-22-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Nicks Fan
she reaches her peak with the wonderful ballad "Songbird" played with only a piano and her wonderful voiceI seem to her a guitar there... am I wrong?

Then again, it is my favorite song on the album, and one of my faves ever.

And those are great reviews. :nod:


Song of the moment - Outside The Rain

chiliD
07-23-2002, 02:37 AM
Besides disagreeing in general to ALL the reviews, I have specific points to rebut....

NicksFan: they had yet to establish themselves in the United States until they released the more pop oriented "Fleetwood Mac" in 1975

They emigrated to the US in early 1974, renegotiated their contract with the record company, filed litigation in a California District Court, recorded an album, "Heroes Are Hard To Find", and toured extensively for the second half of 1974...if that wasn't "establishing themselves", then you'll have to DEFINE...or should I say, REdefine the word "establish". Bob Welch was the first American to join Fleetwood Mac, in 1971, so, please, explain to me how you get that Fleetwood Mac was a UK band until 1975?

NicksFan: When the original band broke up with departure of Lindsey in 1987 and Stevie in 1993...


Nothing irks me more than inaccuracies like this...ESPECIALLY when it's been pointed out that there were prior incarnations within the same post!

And I don't give a rat's a** if you think I'm overly picky or not, but A) the "original band" broke up when Peter Green left in 1970. FACT, indisputable; and 2) Stevie left in 1990, not 1993 :mad:

NicksFan: "Time" crashed and burned with no one noticing ...

"No one"??? I recall some SERIOUS (and in some cases, downright HOSTILE) discussion here on the ORIGINAL Ledges, the FM newsgroups, other message boards around "webland", regarding the "Time" album, it's merits, it's downsides, and some of the reasons (non-musical related) for it's lack of sales. Furthermore, it DID sell around 20-25,000 copies; plus, there were close to 30-35,000 people at the concert I was at in October 1994 and they, for the most part, seemed to be enjoying the show quite a bit, from what I recall. And, let's not forget that Lindsey's MASTERwerk "Out Of The Cradle" was considered a "bomb"; Stevie's "Street Angel", too.



NicksFan: ..however one of my favourites “Seven Wonders” is missing from the collection...

Then buy the UK version...it has "Seven Wonders" on it.

Sorcerer386
07-23-2002, 11:10 AM
2) Stevie left in 1990, not 1993

Stevie may have unofficially left Fleetwood Mac in 1990, but she did not officially say she would no longer be a member of Fleetwood Mac until 1993 after they sang Don't Stop for Bill Clinton. She saw that Lindsey still didn't want to be a part of the band, and she figured that she came in to Fleetwood Mac with him, and it was too sad to be in it without him (at least that's what I've read). It really wasn't until 1993 that Stevie stated she was going to be a solo act only. Not that it matters, because 4 years later they got back together, as everyone knows.

chiliD
07-23-2002, 11:22 AM
"Unofficially"?? She made the joint press conference announcement with Chris, halfway through the "Behind The Mask" tour in 1990 that they BOTH were leaving the band as of the end of the tour. If that's not "official", what IS?

Well, actually Chris said that she was quitting touring, but that she'd still be open to recording with the band; but, Stevie announced that she was quitting outright.
1990...not 1993.

I know, I know...the Vh-1 BTM, she said that it wasn't until after the inauguration that she didn't want to be involved with Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey...but, that is in direct discrepancy with her 1990 "big" announcement. Hasn't anyone else noticed that Stevie changes her story interview to interview??

Street Angel
07-23-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by chiliD
[...] Stevie announced that she was quitting outright.
1990...not 1993.

I know, I know...the Vh-1 BTM, she said that it wasn't until after the inauguration that she didn't want to be involved with Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey...but, that is in direct discrepancy with her 1990 "big" announcement. Hasn't anyone else noticed that Stevie changes her story interview to interview??

It´s true what Chili said. I remember Rick Vito announcing Stevie´s departure in the middle of their set when I saw one of their Behind The Mask shows in Essen/Germany in 1990. Catcalls were the response.

Nicks Fan
07-23-2002, 01:11 PM
Let me clarify some things here.

1) I am going by the Behind The Music story of how after the Bill Clinton Concert she left the band.

2). They may have had Americans's in the band and also have recorded an album in the us. But name any top 40 singles off the album. As I recall the band at that time had only TWO songs in the Billboard Charts. Albatrosswhich peaked at 104 and Oh Well which peaked at 55. It was not untill they released 1975's Fleetwood Mac that any songs made into the top 20. If you watch the Stevie Nicks Speak Easy they make light of the fact that over night the sucess of the band changed drasticly.

3) When I say original I meant the original line up from 1975 on. I admit that I should have been more specific.

chiliD
07-23-2002, 01:39 PM
1) I've found that VH-1's "Behind The Music"s are FILLED with inaccuracies...not just with Fleetwood Mac, but generally across the board.

Let's recall the circumstances surrounding the Clinton inaugural:

The Rumours lineup got back together for a one-time, one-SONG performance (which is the ONLY reason Lindsey agreed to do it). Stevie had already quit, Lindsey was long out of the band, Christine relented for one more performance, ONLY because it was HER song they were to play (Fleetwood Mac had just played the Super Bowl Pre-Game show less than a week earlier with the lineup of Mick, John, Billy, Rick & Christine)...and they carried on with a handful of private corporate party gigs as a four-piece of just the guys...Mick, John, Billy & Rick...they recorded and filmed a video for Chris' "Love Shines" with the four piece lineup of Mick, John, Billy & Chris...so, this was a "revolving door" of personnel with a quick turnaround time for the band.

2) the single "Heroes Are Hard To Find" CHARTED, but didn't crack the top 40 (obviously)...that still doesn't mean they didn't "ESTABLISH" themselves in the US...they'd done numerous live radio & TV performances, as well...there was a big "push" when the "HAHTF" album was released. (I've posted already in a previous thread somewhere on the Ledges regarding this)...Fleetwood Mac was KNOWN in the US despite the lack of AM radio airplay...they were an FM radio staple from the beginning of the band onwards. Just because the went to MEGA stardom post-1975 has no bearing on when & how they "ESTABLISHED" themselves in the US. Another case in point...how many TOP 40 singles have the Grateful Dead had? Are they a non-entity because they didn't HAVE one until about 25 years after they started? So, using your logic, the Grass Roots are more "viable" because they had a string of top 40 hits and the Grateful Dead DIDN'T?? Same thing with Led Zeppelin...how many "hit singles" did they have?? ZERO! That's how many. They're obviously unestablished since they didn't have a "hit", right?


3) "Original Fleetwood Mac" in ANY form is, and always WILL be, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Jeremy Spencer & Peter Green. Any OTHER use of the term "original" in respect to Fleetwood Mac is inaccurate.

Robert
07-23-2002, 02:27 PM
chiliD is correct about Stevie's 1990 departure date Nicksfan ,I was at the Forum in Englewood on the last nigt of the BTM tour at the end of 1990 and the show was billed as her 'swan song' with the band.It was also the most lackluster performance i have ever seen her give and I have seen her perform quite a few times .She only pepped up a bit when Lindsey came out to do Lanslide and GYOW.

Sorcerer386
07-23-2002, 04:02 PM
Okay, **warning, cliche alert** my bad. :) I never heard about that announcement during the tour. Ya learn something new every day, thanks chiliD. :wavey:

Hawkeye
07-23-2002, 05:24 PM
what about dany Kirwan he was an original member.

The Tower
07-23-2002, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by chiliD
Hasn't anyone else noticed that Stevie changes her story interview to interview??

Yes, yes, yes.... Her stories always change. I don't know why, but they do. Maybe she's trying to romanticize things. It's kind of irritating.

On the other hand-

Nicks Fan, good effort showing what you like about FM's stuff. So there were inaccuracies, no big whoop.

I would have rated it like this:

White Album - three stars ***
Rumours - four stars ****
Tusk - five stars *****
Mirage - two 1/2 ** 1/2
Tango in the Night - two **
Behind the Mask - three ***
Time - one *
The Dance - three (but if not for Silver Springs it woulda been a two) ***

chiliD
07-23-2002, 05:55 PM
I was at the Forum in Englewood on the last nigt of the BTM tour at the end of 1990

Me, too!! What a great show (for the most part, anyway)! The great opening of "In The Back Of My Mind" segueing into "The Chain"...Rick's smokin' version of "Stop Messin' Round". And, of course, Lindsey's appearance both DURING the set on "Landslide" (could Stevie's emotional crap at the end be anyMORE contrived? Lindsey seemed to act like "ok, the song's over lemme outta here") and for the finale of "Go Your Own Way" and then the first encore of "Tear It Up", was QUITE the surprise!

What was its position?

I was going off recall...I'll research the exact numbers for you...may take me a bit.

Was that in the US?

Yes.

Vianna
07-23-2002, 06:05 PM
Are we talking the Behind the Mask tour? I saw this show in DC and it was a different setlist I would swear-it has been ten years, I admit and I wasn't as knowledgeable about the band then-but it seems to me they did mainly Rumours stuff and a couple of numbers from the Behind the Mask album..I remember being kinda disappointed they didn't play more new stuff..

chiliD
07-23-2002, 06:43 PM
what about dany Kirwan he was an original member.

No, he wasn't. Danny joined right after "Mr Wonderful" & before "Pious Bird Of Good Omen" (their 2nd & 3rd albums)...he made an immediate impact, his "Jigsaw Puzzle Blues" was the b-side of the "Albatross" single.

You're right, Vianna, somewhere along in the BTM tour, they revamped a portion of the set list...the most obvious change was that they ditched "Say You Love Me" as the opener for Billy's "In The Back of My Mind". They played that, "Save Me", "Stand On The Rock", & "Love Is Dangerous", which is the same number of "new" songs they played on the Mirage tour ("Love In Store", "Hold Me", "Eyes Of The World", "Gypsy")...they only played THREE "new" songs on the Tango tour ("Isn't It Midnight", "Seven Wonders" & "Little Lies").

Johnny Stew
07-23-2002, 07:00 PM
I'd like to add that, quite frankly the period in Fleetwood Mac's history between 1990 and 1997, is VERY confusing... and I don't know if any one of *US* can say with certainty what exactly happened.

To the absolute best of my recollection, Stevie's announcement about leaving the band in 1990, was in regards to touring.
She said in several TV and print interviews, as did Mick, that she would continue to record with the band.

Now... the following year when she was compiling 'Timespace' and her request to include "Silver Springs" was denied, THEN she announced that she would "never again" work with Fleetwood Mac.

Apparently her stance did soften however by the summer of 1992, when Lindsey mentioned in a Billboard interview with Timothy White, that he and Stevie had consented to work on some new songs for 'The Chain' boxed set.

After the band (Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey & Stevie) performed at the Clinton Inauguration, Stevie told USA Today that she no longer had any desire to work with the band without Lindsey.

Then several months later, Rolling Stone had a little blurb to the effect that "Now that Stevie Nicks' resignation from Fleetwood Mac has become official, Fleetwood Mac has hired Bekka Bramlett, daughter of Delaney & Bonnie Bramlett."

To add to this confusion, Rick also "officially" left in 1991, but performed with Fleetwood Mac (Mick, John, Christine & Billy) for their Super Bowl gig in 1992 (one week after the Clinton Inauguration).

Billy also left the band at some point, around 1992 i believe, but was back by the time they were recording 'Time,' and toured in support of it (both before and after its release).

One final matter that is also confusing, is the departure of Billy & Bekka.
Many sources stated that the pair left Fleetwood Mac to record their album (Mick has also said that it was then that he decided Fleetwood Mac was finally finished), but other sources state that their departure was never really official... well, not until Stevie & Lindsey rejoined in the spring of '97 anyway.


So.... basically what I'm trying to say is, everything that everyone has mentioned previously in this thread is correct... at least according to one source or another!
*lol*



Johnny Stew

David
07-24-2002, 10:12 AM
On amf-m, we talked about some of these issues recently. I think the decision she made during the 1990 tour was not to tour with the group anymore, & Christine's decision, which preceded hers & was a result of her dad dying that summer, seems to have prodded her to it. The year after, Stevie & Mick got in a big fight, which I'm sure you've all heard about. Herewith some quotes:

In the July 14, 1991, Boston Sunday Globe, Stevie said, "I said [to
Mick] if you don't give me back my song, then I won't write two new songs for your new record. So that's where it stands right now ... He won't talk to me about it. I have no clue as to why he made that decision. It never stops, does it? Fleetwood Mac goes on like a miniseries. It's one of those 'Gone With the Wind' things that goes on & on; & I never really know what's going to happen. I never burn bridges, but right now I don't think I'll work with them."

After she started her tour that summer, she said, "Right now I'm not very happy with Mick, & it's over a pretty serious thing. He won't give in & I feel it's unfair, & since he's not considering my feelings & I've always considered his, for the first time in my life I can actually say, 'No, I'm not going to tour with them or work with them on this record.' Not them, but himm, because he's done something that is unforgivable."

Then she told Datebook: "I can't believe he's stupid enough to break this band up for a song he dumped in the garbage can. I fought like a dog to keep this band together for 15 years. I didn't have to because I had my own solo career. I have always loved Mick, & I have always done everything I could to keep him going. It's a pretty sad way to end Fleetwood Mac. This is going to be a shock to the rest of the band when they see the stupidity of Mick's decision. It has nothing to do with all the other things we could have broken up over. I didn't even get mad at him about his book. Last December, as we were wrapping up the tour, when I introduced the band, I would say 'the fabulous Mick
Fleetwood, drummer extraordinaire & best-selling author!' I was trying to help him sell the damn book!"

Somewhere else around that time, she said, "Right now, I'm in the middle of a very big fight with Mick. This is all so underhanded. I called him on a Friday & said, 'If I don't have that tape of 'Silver Springs' by Monday, I'm out.' He had three days & didn't deliver. What did I ever do to him that he would do this to me & my mother?"

On VH1-to-1, the interviewer asked Stevie where her relationship with Fleetwood Mac stood at that point. "It does not stand," she said. "It [recording with the band] is not going to happen. Because the story's already all over, so there's no reason for me to really go into it. It all stems down to an argument between me & Mr. Fleetwood. And that's down to the fact that he would not return to me a song that he dumped in the can 14 years ago, slapped on the back of a single & was never heard from again. And I wanted to put it on 'Timespace' because it belongs to my mom, & he said, 'Over my dead body.' And I said, 'Well then, you
just broke the camel's back.' So I won't be involved anymore."

On the 1991 BBC radio interview I mentioned way up top, Stevie said, "I told Dennis [Dunstan, Mick's manager] what I wanted. I said, 'I want Silver Springs because it belongs to my mother.' ... When 'Timespace' came around, it didn't occur to me that they wouldn't let me have it back. Switching back quickly to the night I called Mick a couple of months ago, & he didn't want to return my call, I talked to his manager & said: 'Well, you find Mick, & you tell him that if I don't get those tapes by Monday, I am no longer a member of Fleetwood Mac.' And he said, 'Ok, give me until 10:30. I'll find Mick. Don't do anything yet.' And I said, 'Ok.' And at about 10:15 Dennis called back & said that he had finally tracked Mick down. And Mick had said, 'Over my dead body will I ever give that song back.' And now he has ruined Fleetwood Mac's future."

In a 1991 interview for E! channel, Stevie said about her & Mick:
"Mick & I are having an intense argument. We're not speaking. We haven't spoken since the 7th of December of last year, which was our last gig at the Forum. He & I have come to a crossroads. And so, I don't know if Mick can pull this one out of the bag. He may be able to, because Mick's very magic sometimes, & he may be able to talk me out of it, but I don't think so. Not this time."

She went on to say: "I would definitely have worked on the next record that they're gonna do, which is gonna be a big, BIG, like,
conglomeration of songs from, you know, 30 years ago all the way up until now, & some new ones. And I said, 'Of course I'll do that. Whatever.' Because I'm a very soft touch. They all know it ... And when I say 'they' that's not very fair, because they have nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with me & Mick. WE are having the argument, not Fleetwood Mac & I. ... How he's gonna get out of this, I don't know. Because, obviously, 'Timespace' is already out, & 'Silver Springs' isn't on it."

Then she told Jim Ladd backstage at the Whiskey in 1991: "I'm gonna record it on the next solo album. That's a promise."

In a 1992 issue of Vox, Stevie hints that the reason Sara left Mick in 1992 was due to the Silver Springs brouhaha: "She's singing with me now; she's a very good friend. She's divorcing Mick after being with him for 13 years; they are completely separated. She doesn't understand." I didn't read that Vox, but Mike Bise says that the reason Rick Vito left Fleetwood Mac was that he sided with Stevie during this mess, & that she says so in the article.

After the FM box set came out with the old "Silver Springs," Mick
said, "At one point, Stevie wanted to put the song on her solo album but it was a Fleetwood Mac track & we wouldn't let her -- which made her unhappy for a time."

Sorcerer386
07-24-2002, 11:39 PM
It never stops, does it? Fleetwood Mac goes on like a miniseries. It's one of those 'Gone With the Wind' things that goes on & on

There's a favorite Stevie quote thread over on the Stevie forum, and this just became my new favorite Stevie quote! That's hilarious. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Robert
07-25-2002, 03:04 PM
Another funny quote of Stevie's prompted by the "Silver Springs " incident was "I am no longer a part of that particular Shakesperian drama'

Nicks Fan
08-05-2002, 07:48 PM
I always did wonder why Mick cut the song off of the album. It was such a good song. One thing though that always seems apparant is that no matter how bad things get Mick always finds a way to get some form of the band together to record a new album and to tour even if the album or tour is not successful.
It is too bad that Chris won't tour with them because it would be fun.