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KarmaContestant
04-06-2011, 10:52 AM
Does anyone have the TISL acetate that would be willing to upload or mail a CD copy of it? I've got MP3s of the tracks from it that are different - My Heart, Bombay Sapphires, etc... but I'm hoping to add a lossless copy of it to my collection if I might be so lucky.

I know it's rare, and I recall that when it first surfaced only MP3 rips of the alternate tracks were shared, so I'm not expecting any sort of overwhelming response.

If someone is able, and willing, I'd be so very thankful. Please reply here or send me a PM if you prefer.

mikebise
04-06-2011, 10:55 AM
Do you have "Every Day"? No one's ever posted that here.

KarmaContestant
04-06-2011, 11:00 AM
Do you have "Every Day"? No one's ever posted that here.

I do. I'll post it tonight (I have an appointment to look at a house after work so it might be closer to 7-ish MDT). I have Bombay Sapphires, Every Day, I Miss You, My Heart, Thrown Down and Touched By An Angel. All are MPs.

jeffd8382
04-06-2011, 12:38 PM
Does anyone have the TISL acetate that would be willing to upload or mail a CD copy of it? I've got MP3s of the tracks from it that are different - My Heart, Bombay Sapphires, etc... but I'm hoping to add a lossless copy of it to my collection if I might be so lucky.

I know it's rare, and I recall that when it first surfaced only MP3 rips of the alternate tracks were shared, so I'm not expecting any sort of overwhelming response.

If someone is able, and willing, I'd be so very thankful. Please reply here or send me a PM if you prefer.

Yes, that would be incredible! :nod: I have been looking for this for forever, as well... but no one seems to have anything but the MP3s of these tracks. A couple of times, I found FLAC encoded versions mixed in compilations, but when analyzed, you can clearly see they are MP3 sourced.

HejiraNYC
04-06-2011, 01:28 PM
Okay... pardon my ignorance...

But can someone enlighten me about the source of the TISL-era recordings that are in circulation:

"Annabel Lee"
"Have No Heart"
"Space Needle"

Plus demos or alt. takes of

"Trouble in Shangri-la" (demo and acoustic)
"Candlebright" (with the expanded intro)
"That Made Me Stronger"
"Not Make Believe"
"Thrown Down" (demos)
"Planets of the Universe" (TISL demos)
"Love Changes"

Were these stolen from Stevie's house? From the record company? I don't think any of these were on the early Greman TISL pressing.

mikebise
04-06-2011, 01:47 PM
No, I bought mine on a 2~CD set off eBay in 2001. Not sure if this person was the source, but it's where I first saw and GOT all of these.

Don't forget "Fall From Grace"!

And unedited CROW mix of "Sorcerer"!!!

HejiraNYC
04-06-2011, 01:49 PM
No, I bought mine on a 2~CD set off eBay in 2001. Not sure if this person was the source, but it's where I first saw and GOT all of these.

Don't forget "Fall From Grace"!

And unedited CROW mix of "Sorcerer"!!!

I thought that was the promo only single mix. :shrug:

So in a nutshell, it's not entirely clear how/where these tracks leaked?

KarmaContestant
04-06-2011, 01:52 PM
I thought that was the promo only single mix. :shrug:

So in a nutshell, it's not entirely clear how/where these tracks leaked?

The promo CD had the Sheryl Crow edit - the 2CD TISL demo comp. has the uncut Shery Crow remix.

All I know is that the collection came from eBay, and that many people seem to have purchased it. I got it from an online download, and it's another one that I wish I had in lossless quality, instead of MP3

gldstwmn
04-06-2011, 01:58 PM
Does anyone have the TISL acetate that would be willing to upload or mail a CD copy of it? I've got MP3s of the tracks from it that are different - My Heart, Bombay Sapphires, etc... but I'm hoping to add a lossless copy of it to my collection if I might be so lucky.

I know it's rare, and I recall that when it first surfaced only MP3 rips of the alternate tracks were shared, so I'm not expecting any sort of overwhelming response.

If someone is able, and willing, I'd be so very thankful. Please reply here or send me a PM if you prefer.

I'll see if my copy is lossless. Meanwhile I will upload it to mediafire. Give me just a few minutes please. :)

mikebise
04-06-2011, 02:02 PM
The promo CD had the Sheryl Crow edit - the 2CD TISL demo comp. has the uncut Shery Crow remix.

All I know is that the collection came from eBay, and that many people seem to have purchased it. I got it from an online download, and it's another one that I wish I had in lossless quality, instead of MP3

Mine are the CDs. Would they be lossless?

Me? I'm clueless... :thumbsup:

HejiraNYC
04-06-2011, 02:08 PM
Mine are the CDs. Would they be lossless?

Me? I'm clueless... :thumbsup:

The quick answer is not necessarily. It depends on the source of the recordings burned onto the CD.

As far as I'm concerned, if the mp3s were created at a decent sampling rate, i.e., 192 kbps or above, then it is pretty much "lossless." Only a dog or a spectrum analyzer could detect the difference between that and the lossless original. :rolleyes:

jeffd8382
04-06-2011, 02:37 PM
The quick answer is not necessarily. It depends on the source of the recordings burned onto the CD.

As far as I'm concerned, if the mp3s were created at a decent sampling rate, i.e., 192 kbps or above, then it is pretty much "lossless." Only a dog or a spectrum analyzer could detect the difference between that and the lossless original. :rolleyes:

Yeah... this is absolutely true. If something is burned from a lossy source onto an audio CD, it remains "lossy". If it is re-ripped into a WAV file, the file size is huge, but the quality remains the same (it's the same audio information that it had available when it was burned). MP3s are great for saving file space and having reasonable to excellent sound quality (depending on the bitrate), but you can never get back the audio information that was lost when it was encoded.

Hejira is right too that it's hard to tell the difference between high quality mp3s and lossless sources. Some audiophiles claim they can hear a difference, but there have actually been tests done where people have failed to actually tell the difference (despite their claims to the contrary). I tend to think it's psychological, but I believe I can hear a difference between a 192kbps file and a 256 or above... but above 256kbps (320kbps in particular), I can't hear a difference. It's probably a bit obsessive on my part, but there is something oddly comforting to me about knowing I have a lossless file, so that I haven't lost any of the audio information from the source.

KarmaContestant
04-06-2011, 02:39 PM
I'll see if my copy is lossless. Meanwhile I will upload it to mediafire. Give me just a few minutes please. :)

Thank you so much! *crosses fingers*

APerfectLie
04-06-2011, 03:25 PM
whoa! A demo for that made me stronger? Could someone post this?? And a sifferent version of Sorcerer? I haven't heard that either!

sorcerer999
04-06-2011, 03:51 PM
whoa! A demo for that made me stronger? Could someone post this?? And a different version of Sorcerer? I haven't heard that either!

The uncut mix of "Sorcerer" really isn't all that special. It's the exact same version from the album, except the bass is high in the mix and guitars are far back in the mix, which I never liked. Also the ending just keeps going and going and going. It's like they didn't know when to stop.

The only noticable difference to this version is an electric sitar-esque part midway through each verse, which is kind of cool but I can see why they decided not to put it with the final mix, as it really is too much.

gldstwmn
04-06-2011, 04:03 PM
TISL Acetate:

Trouble In Shangri La
Candlebright
That Made Me Stronger
Sorcerer
Planets Of The Universe
It's Only Love
Every Day
Bombay Sapphires
Love Changes
Too Far From Texas
I Miss You
Fall From Grace
Thrown Down
My Heart
Touched By An Angel
Love Is

http://www.mediafire.com/?4o2fh6j8gbbr2e1

seekerj
04-06-2011, 04:04 PM
The uncut mix of "Sorcerer" really isn't all that special. It's the exact same version from the album, except the bass is high in the mix and guitars are far back in the mix, which I never liked. Also the ending just keeps going and going and going. It's like they didn't know when to stop.

The only noticable difference to this version is an electric sitar-esque part midway through each verse, which is kind of cool but I can see why they decided not to put it with the final mix, as it really is too much.

On the Sorcerer outtake, really? I'll have to go back and listen; it's been a long time. That description sounds more like the Candlebright outtake.

sorcerer999
04-06-2011, 04:15 PM
On the Sorcerer outtake, really? I'll have to go back and listen; it's been a long time. That description sounds more like the Candlebright outtake.

The Candlebright outtake ALSO has a sitar-esque part which, again was never used in the final mix.

Christopher
04-06-2011, 04:25 PM
On the Sorcerer outtake, really? I'll have to go back and listen; it's been a long time. That description sounds more like the Candlebright outtake.

Yup, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the "rough mix" of Candlebright. I should know, I listen to that version quite a bit. I prefer it over the album version. The vocals are much brighter, you can really hear all the nice harmony parts (yes, including Sheryl's) more prominently. And the "noticeable difference" of the electric sitar-esque part midway through each verse that sorcerer999 references, is my favorite part, as well as the additional ad-libbing at the end that was all edited out of the final version. These differences in the mix, add such dark textures and a mysterious air to the song. I dig it.

For additional confusion, this raw & rough mix is sometimes referred to as the "candles & incense" version. Whoever came up with that title nailed it perfectly:nod: It describes what I feel when I play this "rough mix". It sets the mood for me to turn off all the lights, lay on the floor in near darkness, with nothing more that a beeswax candle burning and nag champa filling the air.

sorcerer999
04-06-2011, 04:48 PM
Yup, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the "rough mix" of Candlebright.

No. I'm refering to SORCERER. If you listen to the uncut outtake, you will notice halfway through the first verse, after "wild eyed in my misery", the singing stops for 4 measures and you hear an electric sitar-esque part, which continues into "timeless in your finery" and throughout the rest of the first verse.

It happens again midway through the 2nd verse, except there's no pause between lines.

And yes, as referenced two or three posts up, I did recognize that the outtake for Candlebright also has a sitar part. But my initial post was refering to what was different about the Sorcerer uncut outtake. :)

gldstwmn
04-06-2011, 05:08 PM
Tracks 8, 13, 14 & 15 are mpeg, i.e. Bombay Sapphires, Thrown Down, My Heart and Touched By An Angel. The rest of my copy is lossless. :(

DarkUponLight
04-06-2011, 06:33 PM
Not sure if it's what you're all looking for, but I have a 2 disc set of TISL demos that I received about a month after TISL was released from one of my trading buddies. It contains the following:

Annabel Lee 5:09
Bombay Sapphires 4:56
Candlebright 5:37
Fall From Grace 5:38
Have No Heart 6:04 (one of my top 5 demos EVER!)
Love Changes 4:56
Love Is 5:06
Not Make Believe 5:14
Planets of the Universe 1 4:54
Planets of the Universe 2 4:34
Sorcerer 6:42
Space Needle 7:48
That Made Me Stronger 5:55
Thrown Down 1 4:45
Thrown Down 2 5:50
Trouble In Shangri-La 4:53

I can upload these if anyone needs them. ;)

greatdarkwing
04-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Can someone post the un-edited Sheryl Crow Sorcerer mix?

Thanks!

UndoingTheLaces
04-06-2011, 08:47 PM
TISL Acetate:

Trouble In Shangri La
Candlebright
That Made Me Stronger
Sorcerer
Planets Of The Universe
It's Only Love
Every Day
Bombay Sapphires
Love Changes
Too Far From Texas
I Miss You
Fall From Grace
Thrown Down
My Heart
Touched By An Angel
Love Is

http://www.mediafire.com/?4o2fh6j8gbbr2e1


OMG OMG OMG. Thank you soooo much!!! :blob1:

Garbo
04-06-2011, 08:49 PM
Thank you! I much prefer the acetate version of Everyday w/o the extra vocals in the chorus. Sooooo much better IMO.

KarmaContestant
04-06-2011, 09:00 PM
Thank you very much!

APerfectLie
04-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Not sure if it's what you're all looking for, but I have a 2 disc set of TISL demos that I received about a month after TISL was released from one of my trading buddies. It contains the following:

Annabel Lee 5:09
Bombay Sapphires 4:56
Candlebright 5:37
Fall From Grace 5:38
Have No Heart 6:04 (one of my top 5 demos EVER!)
Love Changes 4:56
Love Is 5:06
Not Make Believe 5:14
Planets of the Universe 1 4:54
Planets of the Universe 2 4:34
Sorcerer 6:42
Space Needle 7:48
That Made Me Stronger 5:55
Thrown Down 1 4:45
Thrown Down 2 5:50
Trouble In Shangri-La 4:53

I can upload these if anyone needs them. ;)

Yes please! :)

gldstwmn
04-07-2011, 12:22 AM
Yup, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the "rough mix" of Candlebright. I should know, I listen to that version quite a bit. I prefer it over the album version. The vocals are much brighter, you can really hear all the nice harmony parts (yes, including Sheryl's) more prominently. And the "noticeable difference" of the electric sitar-esque part midway through each verse that sorcerer999 references, is my favorite part, as well as the additional ad-libbing at the end that was all edited out of the final version. These differences in the mix, add such dark textures and a mysterious air to the song. I dig it.

For additional confusion, this raw & rough mix is sometimes referred to as the "candles & incense" version. Whoever came up with that title nailed it perfectly:nod: It describes what I feel when I play this "rough mix". It sets the mood for me to turn off all the lights, lay on the floor in near darkness, with nothing more that a beeswax candle burning and nag champa filling the air.

It's the version I always listen to before I get on a plane. :nod:

gldstwmn
04-07-2011, 12:24 AM
Thank you! I much prefer the acetate version of Everyday w/o the extra vocals in the chorus. Sooooo much better IMO.

Me too. There are actually a whole bunch of little, subtle differences throughout the whole disc.

KarmaContestant
04-07-2011, 11:37 AM
Here's the full acetate, lossless. A surprise gift from someone who would prefer to remain a mystery. :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?nqb9mk70f6pe5

TISL acetate, ripped @ 1411kb/s into WAV files. Each of the 16 tracks are uploaded individually in case anyone wants to pick & choose.

Christopher
04-07-2011, 12:08 PM
Thanks Karma!^^^^

Christopher
04-07-2011, 12:19 PM
Is anyone else having trouble with downloading? I'm having trouble after track 6 beginning with Everyday. Maybe the server is down or overloaded?

KarmaContestant
04-07-2011, 12:20 PM
Is anyone else having trouble with downloading? I'm having trouble after track 6 beginning with Everyday. Maybe the server is down or overloaded?

I haven't tried yet since I'm at work. I'll let you know if I get them all ok. Mediafire is tempermental at times.

Christopher
04-07-2011, 12:30 PM
Got em' all, Mediafire was just being temperamental. Thanks again. I had some of these in lossless format but not all. I need to organize my files desperately.:nod:

Hippocampus
04-07-2011, 01:40 PM
Here's the full acetate, lossless. A surprise gift from someone who would prefer to remain a mystery. :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?nqb9mk70f6pe5

Thank you so much for these Mr/Mrs/Ms Anonymous and Karma for the thread. The TISL acetate appeared after I ended my trading career and I've always regretted not having a copy. This is sooo good. :)

Annabell Lee
04-07-2011, 02:22 PM
Yes, thank you sooo much ! :xoxo:

TheWILDheart
04-07-2011, 03:07 PM
Thank you so much for posting this!!
Does anyone have this in MP3?

jeffd8382
04-07-2011, 04:04 PM
Here's the full acetate, lossless. A surprise gift from someone who would prefer to remain a mystery. :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?nqb9mk70f6pe5
:blob1:

WOW! Thank you so much, Mathew... as always, you are AWESOME! And a million thanks to the mysterious source...whoever you are!!! :thumbsup:

:woohoo:

mikebise
04-07-2011, 06:27 PM
Can someone post the un-edited Sheryl Crow Sorcerer mix?

Thanks!

Here you go~

http://www.mediafire.com/?ihsaho0y3ex6ju8

mikebise
04-07-2011, 06:58 PM
I meant to thank Chris and Mathew (and the Ghost friend) for posting the acetates. This "Every Day" is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

greatdarkwing
04-07-2011, 06:58 PM
Here you go~

http://www.mediafire.com/?ihsaho0y3ex6ju8

Thank you!

Garbo
04-07-2011, 08:01 PM
Thanks for the unedited SC mix of Sorcerer! Does anyone happen to have any of the mixes/edits from the promo cd single?

mikebise
04-09-2011, 10:43 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?ofwb76p2qi1lelc

"That's Made Me Stronger" ~ demo

DarkUponLight
04-11-2011, 12:14 PM
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Yes please! :)

Here you go...

Annabel Lee (5:09)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/44q22k

Bombay Sapphires (4:56)
http://www.mediafire.com/?z97b358sntxbp0y

Candlebright (5:37)
http://www.mediafire.com/?uj5ea76czqprjaz

Fall From Grace (5:38)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wkrc6x

Have No Heart (6:04)
http://www.mediafire.com/?5h3ge79d8c68ve6

Love Changes (4:56)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fswkmn

Love Is (5:06)
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiq9lk9en6l7n64

Not Make Believe (5:14)
http://www.mediafire.com/?as0ba810cd76xpf

Planets of the Universe 1 (4:54)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3cx6jl1241jz6li

Planets of the Universe 2 (4:34)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fswkmn

Sorcerer (6:42)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mdbzq8kz4qhxejh

Space Needle (7:48)
http://www.mediafire.com/?m045ggarsb3l4un

That Made Me Stronger (5:55)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nscqgj

Thrown Down 1 (4:45)
http://www.mediafire.com/?uxoz8r7dppjpiuz

Thrown Down 2 (5:50)
http://www.mediafire.com/?w9j97d5zbvj92n8

Trouble In Shangri-La (4:53)
http://www.mediafire.com/?e75d467yo9c3jnn

Enjoy! ;)

Dreams22
04-11-2011, 01:28 PM
THANKS! These are great :) I was wondering, DarkUponLight, the download link for Planets of the Universe 2 is the same as Love Changes. Could you reupload Planets of the Universe 2 please? :)

DarkUponLight
04-11-2011, 02:12 PM
the download link for Planets of the Universe 2 is the same as Love Changes. Could you reupload Planets of the Universe 2 please? :)

Ooops! Sorry bout that... here's a new link:

Planets of the Universe 2 (4:34)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xagvol

Dreams22
04-11-2011, 02:14 PM
^ ur awesome :) Thank you so much!

DarkUponLight
04-11-2011, 02:22 PM
If anyone has any demos from TISL that aren't on that list I posted, can you PLEEEASE post them? Thanks in advance ;)

KarmaContestant
04-11-2011, 02:47 PM
If anyone has any demos from TISL that aren't on that list I posted, can you PLEEEASE post them? Thanks in advance ;)

There is another demo of TISL (the song) that did not appear on the 2-CD demo compilation. I'll post it when I'm home if no one gets to it before me.

Other than that one, I'm not sure there is anything else out there. Well, I guess there's Call On Me For Magic. And Chanel Chanel, but I think that one is a RAL demo that started circulating after TISL.

mikebise
04-11-2011, 03:28 PM
That "Chanel, Chanel" is from 1996-1998, not Rock A Little. It counts as a TISL demo.

DarkUponLight
04-11-2011, 04:19 PM
There is another demo of TISL (the song) that did not appear on the 2-CD demo compilation. I'll post it when I'm home if no one gets to it before me.

Awesome! Thanks! :)

APerfectLie
04-11-2011, 04:34 PM
Here you go...

Annabel Lee (5:09)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/44q22k

Bombay Sapphires (4:56)
http://www.mediafire.com/?z97b358sntxbp0y

Candlebright (5:37)
http://www.mediafire.com/?uj5ea76czqprjaz

Fall From Grace (5:38)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wkrc6x

Have No Heart (6:04)
http://www.mediafire.com/?5h3ge79d8c68ve6

Love Changes (4:56)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fswkmn

Love Is (5:06)
http://www.mediafire.com/?iiq9lk9en6l7n64

Not Make Believe (5:14)
http://www.mediafire.com/?as0ba810cd76xpf

Planets of the Universe 1 (4:54)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3cx6jl1241jz6li

Planets of the Universe 2 (4:34)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fswkmn

Sorcerer (6:42)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mdbzq8kz4qhxejh

Space Needle (7:48)
http://www.mediafire.com/?m045ggarsb3l4un

That Made Me Stronger (5:55)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nscqgj

Thrown Down 1 (4:45)
http://www.mediafire.com/?uxoz8r7dppjpiuz

Thrown Down 2 (5:50)
http://www.mediafire.com/?w9j97d5zbvj92n8

Trouble In Shangri-La (4:53)
http://www.mediafire.com/?e75d467yo9c3jnn

Enjoy! ;)

Thank you!!!

KarmaContestant
04-11-2011, 05:36 PM
If anyone has any demos from TISL that aren't on that list I posted, can you PLEEEASE post them? Thanks in advance ;)


TISL - Alternate Demo
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KW34XFPR

jcalzaretta
04-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Stevie cut the wrong three songs from TISL.

My Heart, Touched by and Angel and Thrown Down should have stayed instead of It's Only Love, Love Changes and Too Far From Texas.

mikebise
04-11-2011, 06:01 PM
"Love Changes" is my favourite song on TISL.

vivfox
04-11-2011, 06:27 PM
"Love Changes" is my favourite song on TISL.

This song doesn't even exist to me.:lol:

carrie721
04-11-2011, 06:28 PM
^ maybe it's because of signatures like that that her parents don't want her on the ledge. :eek:

vivfox
04-11-2011, 06:31 PM
^ maybe it's because of signatures like that that her parents don't want her on the ledge. :eek:


Posted with her permission.

carrie721
04-11-2011, 06:35 PM
Posted with her permission.

good to know.

vivfox
04-11-2011, 07:02 PM
good to know.


I missed you soo much while you weren't posting.:p:lol:

UndoingTheLaces
04-12-2011, 07:24 PM
Every Day is one of my favorite songs on the album and when I first heard this version (after not having listened to the original in some time) I couldn't tell any difference, but now having played both back to back this one seems so much more full and lush sounding. Is it just me or do you guys hear it too?

PenguinHead
04-12-2011, 07:43 PM
Can anyone share tips on how to burn this to a CDR? I can't play it, nor have I been able to convert it to a recordable file. I'm completely clueless when it comes to these things, but I've never had any problems before. Thanks.

mikebise
04-12-2011, 07:58 PM
Can anyone share tips on how to burn this to a CDR? I can't play it, nor have I been able to convert it to a recordable file. I'm completely clueless when it comes to these things, but I've never had any problems before. Thanks.

Use the link Karma/Mathew provided instead. The songs are individually linked and you can DL them one at a time if you'd like, and they automatically go to your iTunes.

USE the link BELOW, provided by Mathew:

KarmaContestant
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Here's the full acetate, lossless. A surprise gift from someone who would prefer to remain a mystery.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nqb9mk70f6pe5

KarmaContestant
04-12-2011, 08:00 PM
Can anyone share tips on how to burn this to a CDR? I can't play it, nor have I been able to convert it to a recordable file. I'm completely clueless when it comes to these things, but I've never had any problems before. Thanks.


If you downloaded the WAV files, you can use something like iTunes or another similar program to import them into your library, and then burn them to CD as a music disc. :cool: Windows Media Player may work, as well.

PenguinHead
04-12-2011, 08:57 PM
Thank you for your help. It's much appreciated!:thumbsup:

DarkUponLight
04-14-2011, 01:45 AM
TISL - Alternate Demo
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KW34XFPR

Thanks so much! :)

StevieNicksfann
04-14-2011, 06:03 PM
The one thing I don't understand is how this Thrown Down can be considered a part of TISL. I know it was demoed for it but the Wall of Sound version that people keep referring to is the one on this TISL acetate but I don't know how. I hear Lindsey on it prominently plus his guitar work and other nuances that make this an alternate outtake from the Say You Will album and not TISL.

mikebise
04-14-2011, 06:16 PM
You're wrong on several accounts.

THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" is ABSOLUTELY 100% an outtake of Trouble In Shangri~la, and was on the 16~track CD of TISL that certain people received at Stevie's Arizona Benefit in September 2000. Let me repeat: September 2000.

Before the album's release, Stevie took "Thrown Down" off of the record in order for Fleetwood Mac to record it for their new album, which began work in mid~2001, well after THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" was recorded.

Yes, Lindsey plays on this TISL version of "Thrown Down" ~ he ALSO plays on "I Miss You", which is on TISL, too. And Mick plays drums on the TISL "Thrown Down", just as he did on "Sable On Blond", but that doesn't make "Sable On Blond" an "early" Tango track. Mick and Lindsey BOTH play on Stevie's new album, In Your Dreams. That doesn't make those songs "early" recordings of the next Fleetwood Mac album. Stevie's bandmates played on this version of "Thrown Down" which was specifically recorded for her solo album. When she had to cut a few songs from Trouble In Shangri~la, she took off this "Thrown Down", so that Fleetwood Mac could record a new version for their record.

To repeat: This version of "Thrown Down" is included on the acetate of Trouble In Shangri~la BECAUSE it's from Trouble In Shangri~la, not an "early" Say You Will track.

mikebise
04-14-2011, 06:18 PM
Someone did not randomly add this version of "Thrown Down" to the TISL acetate ~ it's ON THERE! THIS VERY VERSION!!!!!!!

It's not a Say You Will recording. It was on the 16~track CD of TISL that Stevie handed out in September 2000.

JamieSPC
04-24-2011, 06:48 PM
Always wondered if anyone had the actual file of the acapella intro of TISL (the song) that played on the tour... would LOVE to have that.

HighPassion
04-24-2011, 07:03 PM
You're wrong on several accounts.

THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" is ABSOLUTELY 100% an outtake of Trouble In Shangri~la, and was on the 16~track CD of TISL that certain people received at Stevie's Arizona Benefit in September 2000. Let me repeat: September 2000.

Before the album's release, Stevie took "Thrown Down" off of the record in order for Fleetwood Mac to record it for their new album, which began work in mid~2001, well after THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" was recorded.

Yes, Lindsey plays on this TISL version of "Thrown Down" ~ he ALSO plays on "I Miss You", which is on TISL, too. And Mick plays drums on the TISL "Thrown Down", just as he did on "Sable On Blond", but that doesn't make "Sable On Blond" an "early" Tango track. Mick and Lindsey BOTH play on Stevie's new album, In Your Dreams. That doesn't make those songs "early" recordings of the next Fleetwood Mac album. Stevie's bandmates played on this version of "Thrown Down" which was specifically recorded for her solo album. When she had to cut a few songs from Trouble In Shangri~la, she took off this "Thrown Down", so that Fleetwood Mac could record a new version for their record.

To repeat: This version of "Thrown Down" is included on the acetate of Trouble In Shangri~la BECAUSE it's from Trouble In Shangri~la, not an "early" Say You Will track.


Dude, I think you need to calm down ---they're just demos and alternates.:shrug:

They are all neat to hear though :)

APerfectLie
04-24-2011, 07:10 PM
You're wrong on several accounts.

THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" is ABSOLUTELY 100% an outtake of Trouble In Shangri~la, and was on the 16~track CD of TISL that certain people received at Stevie's Arizona Benefit in September 2000. Let me repeat: September 2000.

Before the album's release, Stevie took "Thrown Down" off of the record in order for Fleetwood Mac to record it for their new album, which began work in mid~2001, well after THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" was recorded.

Yes, Lindsey plays on this TISL version of "Thrown Down" ~ he ALSO plays on "I Miss You", which is on TISL, too. And Mick plays drums on the TISL "Thrown Down", just as he did on "Sable On Blond", but that doesn't make "Sable On Blond" an "early" Tango track. Mick and Lindsey BOTH play on Stevie's new album, In Your Dreams. That doesn't make those songs "early" recordings of the next Fleetwood Mac album. Stevie's bandmates played on this version of "Thrown Down" which was specifically recorded for her solo album. When she had to cut a few songs from Trouble In Shangri~la, she took off this "Thrown Down", so that Fleetwood Mac could record a new version for their record.

To repeat: This version of "Thrown Down" is included on the acetate of Trouble In Shangri~la BECAUSE it's from Trouble In Shangri~la, not an "early" Say You Will track.

So this is hella random, but I was wondering this the other day. Lindsey always has Mick and John and Chris on his solo albums, but has he ever had Stevie on any of his solo stuff? With him being on her last two albums, I think it'd be neat if he asked her to do some backing vocals on a song on his new album.

gypsy4life
04-24-2011, 11:26 PM
Thank you for posting this acetate.
I am currently listening to the alternate version of Bombay Sapphires, and it brought tears to my eyes.
I have always loved the album version, but, I find this version, deeper emotionally.

Thank you again, for making my night!

gldstwmn
04-25-2011, 12:19 AM
Always wondered if anyone had the actual file of the acapella intro of TISL (the song) that played on the tour... would LOVE to have that.

I've wanted that for ages. To my knowledge it's never surfaced. :(

Maxd9
05-11-2013, 06:43 PM
All of the links in this thread seem to be broken. Does anyone have a copy of the acetate they'd be willing to share?

soul_drifter333
05-12-2013, 06:46 PM
Yes.....Please!

All of the links in this thread seem to be broken. Does anyone have a copy of the acetate they'd be willing to share?

KenshiMaster16
05-12-2013, 07:23 PM
Agreed, would love this.

Jondalar
05-12-2013, 07:30 PM
You're wrong on several accounts.

THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" is ABSOLUTELY 100% an outtake of Trouble In Shangri~la, and was on the 16~track CD of TISL that certain people received at Stevie's Arizona Benefit in September 2000. Let me repeat: September 2000.

Before the album's release, Stevie took "Thrown Down" off of the record in order for Fleetwood Mac to record it for their new album, which began work in mid~2001, well after THIS VERY VERSION of "Thrown Down" was recorded.

Yes, Lindsey plays on this TISL version of "Thrown Down" ~ he ALSO plays on "I Miss You", which is on TISL, too. And Mick plays drums on the TISL "Thrown Down", just as he did on "Sable On Blond", but that doesn't make "Sable On Blond" an "early" Tango track. Mick and Lindsey BOTH play on Stevie's new album, In Your Dreams. That doesn't make those songs "early" recordings of the next Fleetwood Mac album. Stevie's bandmates played on this version of "Thrown Down" which was specifically recorded for her solo album. When she had to cut a few songs from Trouble In Shangri~la, she took off this "Thrown Down", so that Fleetwood Mac could record a new version for their record.

To repeat: This version of "Thrown Down" is included on the acetate of Trouble In Shangri~la BECAUSE it's from Trouble In Shangri~la, not an "early" Say You Will track.

I like the TISL version of Thrown Down better than SYW because it makes more sense. TISL could of really used this song.

Jondalar
05-12-2013, 07:32 PM
This song doesn't even exist to me.:lol:

Love Changes doesn't exist to me either. I don't get it.

Jondalar
05-12-2013, 07:58 PM
Yup, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the "rough mix" of Candlebright. I should know, I listen to that version quite a bit. I prefer it over the album version. The vocals are much brighter, you can really hear all the nice harmony parts (yes, including Sheryl's) more prominently. And the "noticeable difference" of the electric sitar-esque part midway through each verse that sorcerer999 references, is my favorite part, as well as the additional ad-libbing at the end that was all edited out of the final version. These differences in the mix, add such dark textures and a mysterious air to the song. I dig it.

For additional confusion, this raw & rough mix is sometimes referred to as the "candles & incense" version. Whoever came up with that title nailed it perfectly:nod: It describes what I feel when I play this "rough mix". It sets the mood for me to turn off all the lights, lay on the floor in near darkness, with nothing more that a beeswax candle burning and nag champa filling the air.

I'm liking this Candlebright mix. I hated the mandolin on the finished version, but this version is really interesting. Actually adds to the atmosphere.

Jondalar
05-12-2013, 07:59 PM
well its not letting me download Thrown Down TISL version

snroxman
05-13-2013, 11:46 AM
TISL could definitely have been better with this version of "Thrown Down". It was a killer song in the TISL version.

Macfanforever
05-13-2013, 11:59 AM
well its not letting me download Thrown Down TISL version

Since the links are old .They do crap out in time do to some cloud drive time limits to keep them up online .

Like Adrive that I'm on with the videos. The links are alive for only two weeks.but feel free to pm me when needed.Ill be happy to update the links.

I dont recall having these but It would be nice if they update the link them .

Jondalar
05-13-2013, 03:34 PM
Since the links are old .They do crap out in time do to some cloud drive time limits to keep them up online .

Like Adrive that I'm on with the videos. The links are alive for only two weeks.but feel free to pm me when needed.Ill be happy to update the links.

I dont recall having these but It would be nice if they update the link them .

Thank you. :)

Jondalar
05-13-2013, 05:23 PM
I 'm listening to alot of TISL demos and I just wish the album would of taken a different turn.

add
Thrown Down
Have No Heart
My Heart
If You Ever Did Believe
Twisted (demo)

Get rid of
That Made Me Stronger
Its Only Love
Love Changes
Love Is
Too Far From Texas (because her vocals are horrendous)

What happened to all the Citars in Candlebright and Sorcerer? they had a great feel

KarmaContestant
05-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Here's the full acetate, lossless. A surprise gift from someone who would prefer to remain a mystery. :)


Try this.... I think it will work. It's a link to the folder I have these stored in. They are .WAV files, and are around 40-50 MB each.

Please do not convert to MP3 and repost; if you want to share them, please maintain the lossless quality of the WAV files. Thank you. :cool:

http://www.mediafire.com/?kq4nw1xwcx7o5

KenshiMaster16
05-14-2013, 08:41 PM
Try this.... I think it will work. It's a link to the folder I have these stored in. They are .WAV files, and are around 40-50 MB each.

Please do not convert to MP3 and repost; if you want to share them, please maintain the lossless quality of the WAV files. Thank you. :cool:

http://www.mediafire.com/?kq4nw1xwcx7o5

Thanks so much! :D

Maxd9
05-15-2013, 01:31 AM
Try this.... I think it will work. It's a link to the folder I have these stored in. They are .WAV files, and are around 40-50 MB each.

Please do not convert to MP3 and repost; if you want to share them, please maintain the lossless quality of the WAV files. Thank you. :cool:

http://www.mediafire.com/?kq4nw1xwcx7o5

Most of these files won't open for me. It says 'This file is copyrighted. Permission denied." Am I doing something wrong?

PenguinHead
05-15-2013, 09:48 AM
Most of these files won't open for me. It says 'This file is copyrighted. Permission denied." Am I doing something wrong?

I feel your frustration. When I try to download a song, a page appears that says "denied" and something like "This song can be found at Amazon."

I've been downloading songs for many years, and have never had any issues. But, apparently something has changed. I can't download anything posted on this site. Yet there are Ledgies that seem to have no problem.

So I ask myself the same question as you: "What am I doing wrong?"

KarmaContestant
05-15-2013, 10:17 AM
I feel your frustration. When I try to download a song, a page appears that says "denied" and something like "This song can be found at Amazon."

I've been downloading songs for many years, and have never had any issues. But, apparently something has changed. I can't download anything posted on this site. Yet there are Ledgies that seem to have no problem.

So I ask myself the same question as you: "What am I doing wrong?"

That's odd. It must be something Mediafire has implemented. I'm able to download the tracks here at work, although some require a captcha entry and some don't.

Be sure to change the view from "Thumbnails" to "List" and do not click on the little "Copyright" icon. Use the action arrow on the right side of the screen, and select "Download" from the list of options.

Macfanforever
05-15-2013, 11:39 AM
I have the same problem with other cloud drives .The copyright bot strikes files as copyrighted and lock them from public sharing but downloadable to the uploader only.

Youtube is the same way.

Yours truly cant post the Jimmy Fallon show with my question to Stevie.NBC/U blocks it.

I can watch it on my computer with no problem but nobody else in the world cant see it.

Jondalar
05-15-2013, 05:41 PM
Does anyone have Have No Heart and the angry version of Smile at You?

SpyNote
05-19-2013, 02:26 PM
Love Changes doesn't exist to me either. I don't get it.

The finished song sounds like a demo to me with all those "blips" and "bleeps." Very weird production.

Stevie cut the wrong three songs from TISL. My Heart, Touched by and Angel and Thrown Down should have stayed instead of It's Only Love, Love Changes and Too Far From Texas.

Looking back now, I agree. It's Only Love feels like one of Stevie's charity songs, which she'll do because she doesn't want to hurt the writer's feelings, Every Day being another example. It's been the downfall of her solo records.

britt0308
06-27-2013, 08:57 PM
Any help with downloading? I've been looking in other threads for the Lossless that was posted here..

I'm still getting the permission denied notice..
Please and thank you! :o

hollywoodhoggie
04-11-2017, 04:37 PM
Does anyone still have this in Loseless? Over the years and computers, I lost it. Mediafire is not wanting to let me try and download most of the WAV files. Much appreciated, in advance. :)