How can Stevie's wardrobe choices be different from the SYW tour

[RockALittle250]

Stevie on the Say You Will tour, during most performances, was tired, drab, dull...oh wait, that was her outfits. We know menopause, and the fact that Christine was gone, affected her greatly and it showed on this tour. Her outfit choices flat-out sucked, and her energy was almost non-existent.

When Stevie hit the road for her Crystal Visions tour, it was like new life was breathed into her soul...her outfits were awesome and she was back to being the Stevie that we all know and love.

So, what can Stevie do this time around to not repeat the mistakes made during the Say You Will tour. My suggestion...no cardigans!

[SandyMac]

more color !! bring out fantastic colorful shawls and dusters, oh and wear the top hat for Rhiannon :nod:

[chriskisn]

how about a mini skirt?

[Sanne2]

So, what can Stevie do this time around to not repeat the mistakes made during the Say You Will tour. My suggestion...no cardigans!

Ignore Lindsey.

[GypsyGirl15]

how about a mini skirt?

I quite agree. ;)

But really. Those outfits from "Soundstage" were awesome. Maybe something like that? .... and leave the Frankenboks at home.

[CADreaming]

Ignore Lindsey.

I say she should dress like Lindsey....wear jeans!

[Remy]

Okay. What did Lindsey do on the SYW tour & what are the Frankenboks?

[GypsyGirl15]

Okay. What did Lindsey do on the SYW tour & what are the Frankenboks?

I don't know what thr deal with Lindsey was, but the Frankenboks are those black platform shoes she wore instead of the boots.

[Zombie]

I don't know what thr deal with Lindsey was, but the Frankenboks are those black platform shoes she wore instead of the boots.

Platform sneakers, no less. Odd fashion choice, for serious.

And I guess Lindsey was mean. Or something. :lol:

[GypsyGirl15]

Platform sneakers, no less. Odd fashion choice, for serious.

And I guess Lindsey was mean. Or something. :lol:

Ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up.

Isn't he always? :p

[CADreaming]

Okay. What did Lindsey do on the SYW tour & what are the Frankenboks?

Supposedly Lindsey "told" her not to wear her Stevie clothes. And, if you buy that I've got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya...

[Zombie]

Ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up.

Isn't he always? :p

Apparently, he's the devil.

I can just see the supposed conversation - "Stevie, stop wearing that stuff. It's so...Stevie. No one wants to see that. Tone it down."

For this tour, I would like to see her tone it way UP in retaliation. Like, she could wear the giant "Rock and Roll" tophat - you know, the one with the huge feather that she has to hold onto her head with one hand the whole time so it doesn't fall off?

Except she should have a new one made that is 5 times the size as the old one, and hire 3 extra persons (to be dressed in mime outfits, so they are less noticeable) to help her hold it on instead. Granted, it will be awkward for the twirling, but I am sure she can pull it off. It's so...Stevie.

[GypsyGirl15]

Apparently, he's the devil.

I can just see the supposed conversation - "Stevie, stop wearing that stuff. It's so...Stevie. No one wants to see that. Tone it down."

For this tour, I would like to see her tone it way UP in retaliation. Like, she could wear the giant "Rock and Roll" tophat - you know, the one with the huge feather that she has to hold onto her head with one hand the whole time so it doesn't fall off?

Except she should have a new one made that is 5 times the size as the old one, and hire 3 extra persons (to be dressed in mime outfits, so they are less noticeable) to help her hold it on instead. Granted, it will be awkward for the twirling, but I am sure she can pull it off. It's so...Stevie.

Yeah, I can totally imagine that. Always his fault.

Actually I kinda like that hat, but a liiiittle big for performing on a stage. Your idea is quite hilarious though. :laugh: Of course she could pull it off. She is Stevie.

[Zombie]

Yeah, I can totally imagine that. Always his fault.

Actually I kinda like that hat, but a liiiittle big for performing on a stage. Your idea is quite hilarious though. :laugh: Of course she could pull it off. She is Stevie.

You know what else is his fault? Yep - WWII and the fact that I can't find my keys.

And that big hat cracks me up, so I would like to see it bigger. Less practical, more fabulous, I always say.

[skuncles]

I seriously doubt Stevie will be wearing a mini skirt anytime soon. You don't see too many 60 year old women in mini skirts. You guys DO realize that she's 60 not 30 right? I agree that she needs to change things up a bit, as she has more or less been stuck with the same basic look since 1997.
As for the "Frankenboots", her ankles were messed up which is why she wasn't wearing the boots. The sneakers were made for her to help with her ankles. The ankle problem and her back was bothering her a lot around that time. There were stops on her solo tour prior to the SYW tour that she skipped the "Edge" walk because her back was bothering her too much to lean over.

[petep9000]

I'm having a brain cramp all of a sudden. She wore the 'boks during the SYW shows? I'm blanking out, and suddenly can't remember 2004 and how her feet looked at Jones Beach. But she didn't wear them during CV did she? I didn't see those shows, but I was following the tours progress on this board..

[DeeGeMe]

In one word: Color. She needs to wear more color. I know black is slimming and it's so very Stevie but she should shake up her wardrobe with a bit more color.

[chriskisn]

I seriously doubt Stevie will be wearing a mini skirt anytime soon. You don't see too many 60 year old women in mini skirts. You guys DO realize that she's 60 not 30 right? I agree that she needs to change things up a bit, as she has more or less been stuck with the same basic look since 1997.
As for the "Frankenboots", her ankles were messed up which is why she wasn't wearing the boots. The sneakers were made for her to help with her ankles. The ankle problem and her back was bothering her a lot around that time. There were stops on her solo tour prior to the SYW tour that she skipped the "Edge" walk because her back was bothering her too much to lean over.

Sorry I was letting my fantasy run away with me...you know Stevie in a mini skirt and stripper heels! ;)

[StevieRox2]

I'm having a brain cramp all of a sudden. She wore the 'boks during the SYW shows? I'm blanking out, and suddenly can't remember 2004 and how her feet looked at Jones Beach. But she didn't wear them during CV did she? I didn't see those shows, but I was following the tours progress on this board..

I saw the 2nd night of the SYW Tour, it was in D.C. and she wore the little black boots with the little skinny heel that had a silver chain around the ankle part, and she kinda just stayed at the microphone all night, no dancing, just minimal movement. I think she wore those boots just a few more times and the frankenboks came back out.

[Remy]

Granted, it will be awkward for the twirling, but I am sure she can pull it off.

Perhaps the hat-handlers could hold it up for the twirl and put it back on when she's regained her stability.

[skuncles]

The Frankenboots were worn for most of the SYW tour. That's one of the things that bothers me about the Soundstage DVD, the shot they used of Stevie in front of Mick's drum kit is Stevie in the horrible sneakers. She DID put the boots on for a song or two (usually at the end of the set), but the sneakers were on the rest of the time.
For the Crystal Visions tour "the boots were back" thus the T-shirt.

[BellaDonna93]

I think she fits on black but I also want to see her in more colors and maybe her black skin pants that she used on the 2008 tour...they were cool!

[Sahara]

And that big hat cracks me up, so I would like to see it bigger. Less practical, more fabulous, I always say.
I think that's good advice for life in general, not just tophats :thumbsup:

No cardigans, no Frankenboks, and after that I think it's hard to go wrong. :)

[seekerj]

The Frankenboots were worn for most of the SYW tour. That's one of the things that bothers me about the Soundstage DVD, the shot they used of Stevie in front of Mick's drum kit is Stevie in the horrible sneakers. She DID put the boots on for a song or two (usually at the end of the set), but the sneakers were on the rest of the time.
For the Crystal Visions tour "the boots were back" thus the T-shirt.

At the first night in Boston when they were filming the DVD, Stevie came out with brown boots on just before 'Gypsy', and those of us in the front row were freaking out about the boots, so she looked at us and said "only for this song".

[Zombie]

Perhaps the hat-handlers could hold it up for the twirl and put it back on when she's regained her stability.

I like how you think!

I think that's good advice for life in general, not just tophats :thumbsup:

No cardigans, no Frankenboks, and after that I think it's hard to go wrong. :)

It is indeed one of the rules I live by. Goes hand-in-hand with the one that says "I DO WHAT I WANT."

The Frankenboks were oddly mesmerizing to me, though, when I first saw them. I was like, "WHAT is she wearing? What are those? Sneakers? Creepers? Maybe if I keep looking long enough, I'll magically figure it out."

[wheart]

an excellent topic, if I do say so myself LOL. Seriously, Stevie's wardrobe has always held a great fascination for me. The SYW choices were dreadful, however, they were MUCH improved for the 2004 leg. Here are some of my suggestions:

- as mentioned before, more color! I wish she would wear a base outfit of red or ivory once in a while. Enough with the incessant black. She looks gorgeous in all white.

- Longer shawls/capes. Her shawls in the past 10 years or so have gotten much shorter. She needs to bring out the full ones again circa Wild Heart/RAL for some real drama!

- Scarves. She wore them in 2004 for the SYW tour and they look awesome. Keep 'em coming!

- Sheer/Lace sleeves. The top she has on in the Stand Back video is so flattering, I think she needs to wear more of the sheer and lace tops, I'm sure she's got a gazillion. Her fabric choices lately seem heavier and less feminine.

- More jewelry. I love the multi ring, multi necklace look of days gone by. She wore no rings at all during the SYW tour except for Goodbye Baby and the same crescent necklace every night. A few braclets would be nice, too!

- More layers. If she came out in say 3 or 4 layers of shawls, etc. like she did during the US festival show, for instance, she could just take a layer off every 2 or 3 songs and she would keep her look fresh without having to leave the stage so often Everyone expects to see her in layers anyway, which is so her trademark, but she seems to have gotten away from it in recent years.

- NO FRANKENBOKS! Please, if she can't wear the boots for an entire FM show (and I doubt she can) find something, anything that looks better than those damn sneakers! Even a low heeled version of her boots would be OK, which she has sported before and look perfectly fine.

OK, I think I'm done now. Thanks for letting me get all this off my chest :laugh::laugh:

[David]

Platform sneakers, no less. Odd fashion choice, for serious. They're awful. Platform boots raise your heels higher than your toes, which is sexy & feminine. But Stevie's frankenbocks raise her WHOLE FOOT equally. It's ungainly. The effect is as if she were lurching around on stilts.

[Zombie]

They're awful. Platform boots raise your heels higher than your toes, which is sexy & feminine. But Stevie's frankenbocks raise her WHOLE FOOT equally. It's ungainly. The effect is as if she were lurching around on stilts.

Yeah, they are very odd - they remind me of creepers (http://www.infectiousthreads.com/Images/big_shoes_d_creeper_4025.jpg) but worse. And creepers are pretty damn bad.

I wear heels allllll the time, and I know by the time I am her age, I will likely regret it, but I will never wear Frankenboks. :lol:

[GODDESS6]

those platform reeboks were so hideous they made me cringe~

[petep9000]

They're awful. Platform boots raise your heels higher than your toes, which is sexy & feminine. But Stevie's frankenbocks raise her WHOLE FOOT equally. It's ungainly. The effect is as if she were lurching around on stilts.

Exactly. She reminded me of Boris Karloff in his Frankenstein's Monster get-up. Better to just wear a flat, I think, or some sort of a wedge. It was a fashion disaster.:shocked:

[wolfontherun]

Re the frankenboots. I live is SF so no one really blinks an eye about anything fashion wise but I have seen 2 people wearing those same exact frankenboots and one is a guy who must be 3 1/2 ft tall because even with the boots he is only like 4 1/2 ft tall.


I don't mind her toned down outfits as that is the thing to do when in a group setting. FM is more about the music not the individual personality. The granny sweater though was a bit too conservative.

Stevie solo is more about the personality so we are lucky that we get her solo outfits which is her time to diva things up for us.

[CADreaming]

They're awful. Platform boots raise your heels higher than your toes, which is sexy & feminine. But Stevie's frankenbocks raise her WHOLE FOOT equally. It's ungainly. The effect is as if she were lurching around on stilts.

True, but if she was having hip/back trouble I can totally understand why she wore them. I just think that with all her money she could have found someone who could design something that worked for her and that was certainly more attractive looking than those things! Good grief!

[CADreaming]

You know what else is his fault? Yep - WWII and the fact that I can't find my keys.

Didn't you hear? Lindsey's also behind the sucky economy, global warming and the fighting at the Gaza strip. Bastard. :laugh:

[Zombie]

Didn't you hear? Lindsey's also behind the sucky economy, global warming and the fighting at the Gaza strip. Bastard. :laugh:

I know, right?! Someone really ought to do something about him. He's a menace. :laugh:

[SandyMac]

Perhaps the hat-handlers could hold it up for the twirl and put it back on when she's regained her stability.:

laugh::laugh: I seriously could not contain my laughter. The vision I just had in my head
was kind of like little munchkins holding her hat with a step ladder near by and it would take several of them to climb up the ladder to place the hat back on her head. Kind of like in Wizard of Oz.

Oh my mind wanders in weird directions sometimes.

[SandyMac]

Re the frankenboots. I live is SF so no one really blinks an eye about anything fashion wise but I have seen 2 people wearing those same exact frankenboots and one is a guy who must be 3 1/2 ft tall because even with the boots he is only like 4 1/2 ft tall.


I don't mind her toned down outfits as that is the thing to do when in a group setting. FM is more about the music not the individual personality. The granny sweater though was a bit too conservative.

Stevie solo is more about the personality so we are lucky that we get her solo outfits which is her time to diva things up for us.

Although I fully understand your point about fitting in more as a group than a solo personality... Stevie = Drama and you can still be fashionable and classy and dress the rock and roll part without it being too intrusive. More color and diversity can be exciting and adds to the performance.

If she must wear basic black, add some white or cream or red to it. Oh the waiting until March is killing me.

[wolfontherun]

Although I fully understand your point about fitting in more as a group than a solo personality... Stevie = Drama and you can still be fashionable and classy and dress the rock and roll part without it being too intrusive. More color and diversity can be exciting and adds to the performance.

If she must wear basic black, add some white or cream or red to it. Oh the waiting until March is killing me.

True, she went way TOO conservative.

I have a feeling that she was being bullied and she got to the point where she was like OK **** it nd **** you you want toned down i will give you toned down.

[Remy]

True, but if she was having hip/back trouble I can totally understand why she wore them. I just think that with all her money she could have found someone who could design something that worked for her and that was certainly more attractive looking than those things! Good grief!

just make the skirt/dress long enough to cover the creepers- i'd be fine with that.

[CADreaming]

True, she went way TOO conservative.

I have a feeling that she was being bullied and she got to the point where she was like OK **** it nd **** you you want toned down i will give you toned down.

I don't. I think she wore what she wanted to.

[Johnny Stew]

I don't. I think she wore what she wanted to.
I have no doubt that Lindsey probably asked Stevie to "tone it down" when it comes to her stage wardrobe. It's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, or even out of character for him.

But of course, Stevie being Stevie, she's going to go to extremes. So instead of toning it down "a little," she's going to tone it way down.

[michelej1]

Even when they first joined Fleetwood Mac, Stevie said that Lindsey had a problem with the way she dressed and she said that she can't be his "little woman" when she's on stage and she wasn't telling him how to dress, so he shouldn't tell her. So, yes Lindsey's always got a lot to say about many things, but she didn't listen to him in 1975 and I doubt she'd start listening to him about how she should dress in 2003 at the age of 55 years old, especially when -- with Christine gone -- she had more power in the band than ever, because she was even more of an audience draw than she had been before, with the third singer gone.

Her telling Jim that Lindsey is the reason she dressed that way is just like her mic stand. In one interview she says she never carries the mic because Lindsey called her Miss Vegas or something. But in another interview she admits it's something she doesn't like to do. So, it's a decision she made, but she finds it convenient to blame on Lindsey, when she's in that mood.

Also, what was he telling her to tone it down from? I assume that left to her own devices, she was going to dress for SYW about the same way she dressed during The Dance. What's to tone down about that? I don't think she was trying to break out outfits from the Tusk tour. So, I'd like to hear a few more specifics about what Lindsey said to her exactly and which wardrobe item he was talking about when he said it.

Then too, she wore that granny sweater when she introduced Tom Petty at the awards show and Lindsey wasn't anywhere around. Surely, she had to own more clothes than those she used on stage. So, I don't know why she'd wear something she didn't like both on and off of the tour. I have to assume she wore it because she thought it suited her at the time.

Michele

[Johnny Stew]

So, I don't know why she'd wear something she didn't like both on and off of the tour. I have to assume she wore it because she thought it suited her at the time.

That seems to be the misconception -- that she disliked the cardigan. I don't think she disliked it at all (didn't she even refer to it as "fabulous"?). I think it was more that she sought out something far more conservative than she would have normally worn, because Lindsey suggested/requested it (and of course she's going to relate that request in as melodramatic of a fashion as possible).

So I think she made a concession, but certainly Stevie Nicks is going to ultimately wear what she wants to.

[michelej1]

That seems to be the misconception -- that she disliked the cardigan. I don't think she disliked it at all (didn't she even refer to it as "fabulous"?). I think it was more that she sought out something far more conservative than she would have normally worn, because Lindsey suggested/requested it (and of course she's going to relate that request in as melodramatic of a fashion as possible).


But she was still dressed like Grandma when she introduced Tom Petty. To me, it had less to do with Lindsey and more about the image she wanted to convey at that time in her life. Being at an awards presentation show which would be televised internationally and appearing with someone like Tom whom she adores, I think she'd want to be attired in what she thinks of as her best. So, in choosing that same outfit, I think she must have thought it made her look her best at the time, for reasons having little to do with Lindsey. I simply can't believe she had nothing else (or could buy nothing else) to wear.

Michele

[JeannieKartis]

True, she went way TOO conservative.

I have a feeling that she was being bullied and she got to the point where she was like OK **** it nd **** you you want toned down i will give you toned down.

thats exactly it, she evens mentions in an interview that Lindsey wanted her to 'tone' her wardrobe down. I was at the opening night show in OH and she was totally 'buttoned' up! we were down in front and she wouldn't even make eye contact, although I do attribute that more to nerves, she looked ready to bug...

[Johnny Stew]

But she was still dressed like Grandma when she introduced Tom Petty. To me, it had less to do with Lindsey and more about the image she wanted to convey at that time in her life.

So, in choosing that same outfit, I think she must have thought it made her look her best at the time, for reasons having little to do with Lindsey.

The two situations don't have to be contradictory -- she could have downplayed her wardrobe initially at Lindsey's suggestion, and then later felt it was also appropriate to wear to present Tom's award, so as not to be too flashy during his "moment."

Either way, I'm not arguing that she didn't want to wear it. Obviously she did. I'm just saying that it very well may not have been a particular look she would have otherwise adopted, had a "toned-down" wardrobe not first been suggested by Lindsey.

(For the record, I don't think Lindsey demanded that Stevie tone down her wardrobe. I doubt he even made all that much of a fuss over it. I get the feeling that it takes very, very little for the two of them to push each others' buttons, and one request like that from Lindsey would be enough to set off Stevie.)

[David]

(For the record, I don't think Lindsey demanded that Stevie tone down her wardrobe. I doubt he even made all that much of a fuss over it. I get the feeling that it takes very, very little for the two of them to push each others' buttons, and one request like that from Lindsey would be enough to set off Stevie.)I agree with this post. I get the feeling he may have said, during rehearsals for the tour, something like, "Do you plan to do the whole Stevie Nicks enchilada with your stage clothes this time?"

Spoken in just the right tone of voice (enthusiasm-less), it would have pushed her buttons.

[michelej1]

The two situations don't have to be contradictory -- she could have downplayed her wardrobe initially at Lindsey's suggestion, and then later felt it was also appropriate to wear to present Tom's award, so as not to be too flashy during his "moment."


I think some wardrobe things are related to Lindsey. For instance, the absence of the top hat. It reappeared for her solo. I don't think it will be there for FM. I don't think he said anything about it though. Deciding not to do something out of tact or consideration is one thing. Implying that someone told you not to wear nice clothes because they were afraid it would upstage them is another -- which is what I think she did with Ladd.

Stevie always has a lot to say about what Lindsey wants in her attire, from him wanting her naked on the cover of BN to him wanting her in a nun's habit in FM.
The only time I've ever thought that he was thinking something about her look was a moment in the Tusk video. She and Robin were doing her hair. It may have been for Rhiannon. He comes up and says something to them and I can't even hear him really. But I did get the impression that he might have been impatient with the chignon preparation.

Michele

[StreetAngel86]

how about a mini skirt?

:eek:

bring it on

i want to see Mama in a black corset/bustier...minus the jacket/cardi
and a very sheer pastel pink shawl
and aforementioned mini skirt
and her platform boots hmmmmmmmmmm :nod:

[GypsyGirl15]

:eek:

bring it on

i want to see Mama in a black corset/bustier...minus the jacket/cardi
and a very sheer pastel pink shawl
and aforementioned mini skirt
and her platform boots hmmmmmmmmmm :nod:

Great idea. Black corset sounds good. :thumbsup:

[CADreaming]

I think some wardrobe things are related to Lindsey. For instance, the absence of the top hat. It reappeared for her solo. I don't think it will be there for FM. I don't think he said anything about it though. Deciding not to do something out of tact or consideration is one thing. Implying that someone told you not to wear nice clothes because they were afraid it would upstage them is another -- which is what I think she did with Ladd.

Stevie always has a lot to say about what Lindsey wants in her attire, from him wanting her naked on the cover of BN to him wanting her in a nun's habit in FM.
The only time I've ever thought that he was thinking something about her look was a moment in the Tusk video. She and Robin were doing her hair. It may have been for Rhiannon. He comes up and says something to them and I can't even hear him really. But I did get the impression that he might have been impatient with the chignon preparation.

Michele

That's a good point, Michele. And, it is probably how the "monkey dance" was born. I think it's more about being impatient waiting than it is a dissatisfaction with the look.

[David]

The only time I've ever thought that he was thinking something about her look was a moment in the Tusk video. She and Robin were doing her hair. It may have been for Rhiannon. But he'd be onstage playing OH WELL.

He comes up and says something to them and I can't even hear him really. But I did get the impression that he might have been impatient with the chignon preparation.I think Chris said a thing or two in the distant past about Stevie Nicks dancing around like a faerie girle, with all her whatnot billowing about. Chris said this in the context of emphasizing just how ridiculous Chris herself would feel doing what Stevie did.

that's what was so cool about the late Tusk Tour legs: Christine started wearing Stevie's clothes! She'd be out there for WORLD TURNING, wearing Stevie's spangly cape, shaking maracas but shimmying in a Rhiannon dance all her own.

[michelej1]

But he'd be onstage playing OH WELL.

I think Chris said a thing or two in the distant past about Stevie Nicks dancing around like a faerie girle, with all her whatnot billowing about. Chris said this in the context of emphasizing just how ridiculous Chris herself would feel doing what Stevie did.

that's what was so cool about the late Tusk Tour legs: Christine started wearing Stevie's clothes! She'd be out there for WORLD TURNING, wearing Stevie's spangly cape, shaking maracas but shimmying in a Rhiannon dance all her own.

It's funny to look at the cover of the live album and wonder why Chris is dressed like Stevie. And why Lindsey is standing backwards.

Yes, you're right that Lindsey is on stage when Stevie is back stage before Rhiannon, but do you know the tour footage I'm talking about? He comes up to her and Robin and I don't think it's at the beginning of the show. I think it's during some sort of break in the show. Maybe just before an encore. I have no idea. To me, it seems like he's saying hurry up, but I rewind and rewind and can't make out his actual words. He looks anxious.

Another time in that video, Lindsey doesn't come up to her and Robin, but he looks like he will and Stevie seems pretty jumpy about that. She is over a steam machine. Inhaling the steam for her throat and Lindsey is across the room and she keeps looking at him coming and when he does get near them, he doesn't say anything. But she looked like she thought he would.


But speaking of preparations, in 2003 some NY columnist interviewed him and he said Stevie needed two hours before the show and the reporter asked what she was doing in those 2 hours. Was she getting a massage or what? He said he didn't know. He just knew she needed two hours. It made me laugh because he seemed to be thinking it's a "mystery to me" what women do or why they do it.

Also, for the SYW tour, she got dressed on the side of the stage for Rhiannon, while he was doing NGBA. You could see her assistant putting on her bat wings. I always thought that was real cool. I also always thought that it was odd to see Stevie's bare arms on stage. I hadn't seen those since the eighties!

Michele

[skcin]

I agree with this post. I get the feeling he may have said, during rehearsals for the tour, something like, "Do you plan to do the whole Stevie Nicks enchilada with your stage clothes this time?"

Spoken in just the right tone of voice (enthusiasm-less), it would have pushed her buttons.

I thought it was a fajita.

[David]

I thought it was a fajita.The MINUTE I wrote that, I thought, "Someone's gonna mention the fajita thing!"