Silver Springs....... A Retired Song????

[Musicman408]

SO I was reading in the new Stevie Bio, and it says that Silver Springs was retired during Say You Will???? Is this true? I heard nothing about this and this is like my FAVE song.....:shrug:

Much Love,

Ethan

[goldustsongbird]

Yeah. It was only played at three shows during the SYW tour. http://www.fmlegacy.com/concertsfmsayyouwill.html#priorshows

[Rickypt]

Yes, I think it's pretty clear this song is retired, and also why don't you just have one thread with your questions and comments about the biography instead of starting a new thread everytime you have something to say about it?:shrug:

[Rickypt]

Yeah. It was only played at three shows during the SYW tour. http://www.fmlegacy.com/concertsfmsayyouwill.html#priorshows

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was played the entire first leg? I know I saw it in Philly, Sacramento, San Jose, Oakland, and Bakersfield.

Edit: I just looked at your link, it was only played three shows in the second leg of the tour (summer 2004).

[Musicman408]

Yes, I think it's pretty clear this song is retired, and also why don't you just have one thread with your questions and comments about the biography instead of starting a new thread everytime you have something to say about it?:shrug:

OK I shall do that......

I think they played it for both of the shows I went to, but I could be wrong....... That's sad. Is there a reasoning behind retiring it or something, because I hadn't heard ANYTHING about this...... I'm actually really shocked.

[goldustsongbird]

OK I shall do that......

I think they played it for both of the shows I went to, but I could be wrong....... That's sad. Is there a reasoning behind retiring it or something, because I hadn't heard ANYTHING about this...... I'm actually really shocked.

Maybe it's too hard for her to sing now every night? Like, vocally, not personally. I have no idea. Just a tip, though... Most show/setlist questions (for both for the Mac & everyone else's solo stuff) can be answered by looking at fmlegacy.com in the past tour section. There's a lot of great info there, and some tidbits about specific shows.

[golden braid]

I love Silver Springs but I do hope it is retired. It was great on The Dance tour and it made The Dance special but it was only okay on the SYW tour. I loved how Stevie put in other old gems like Beautiful Child but I think that should be retired too so she can do another great song like Storms.

[Rickypt]

I love Silver Springs but I do hope it is retired. It was great on The Dance tour and it made The Dance special but it was only okay on the SYW tour. I loved how Stevie put in other old gems like Beautiful Child but I think that should be retired too so she can do another great song like Storms.

I agree with all of this, but SS was retired in the 2nd leg of SYW and not replaced with anything at all. Very disappointing.

[carrie721]

I love Silver Springs but I do hope it is retired. It was great on The Dance tour and it made The Dance special but it was only okay on the SYW tour. I loved how Stevie put in other old gems like Beautiful Child but I think that should be retired too so she can do another great song like Storms.

i agree ... some of the versions i've heard from the SYW tour are kind of painful, and that's really a shame.

angel 2k7!!!

[AliceLover]

Silver Springs was played from 5-7-03 to 5-15-04. It was played at the majority of the shows during the SYW tour. I remember Cory Buckingham telling us that the doctor said Stevie either had to drop Silver Spring or Stand Back from the set list. I remember this vividly because the show that was cancelled was RIGHT before mine in Mansfield.

[ryan8472]

Silver Springs was played from 5-7-03 to 5-15-04. It was played at the majority of the shows during the SYW tour. I remember Cory Buckingham telling us that the doctor said Stevie either had to drop Silver Spring or Stand Back from the set list. I remember this vividly because the show that was cancelled was RIGHT before mine in Mansfield.

Maybe thats why she added Sara instead? Not as vocally challanging...

[SpyNote]

May 30, 2004 / Bristow, Mansfield & Holmdel
Sunday, 30 May 2004
Tour Diaries by Cory Buckingham

Cory confirms Silver Springs' demise, gets attacked by pesky insects, and helps throw a belated birthday party for Stevie.

About ten seconds after completing and submitting my last tour report, I get the dreaded phone call. The Bristow show is canceled. Ugh. But, then again, this would give Stevie four whole days off to rest her voice, so the hope was that if we just cancel this one show, we’ll be okay. It’s nerve racking though.

And it seems I have told you all a lie...but I swear I didn’t know I was lying! We just found out that Silver Springs isn’t coming back. The band decided to 86 it. Sad, but true. It’s a long, hot summer tour, and the band is just making sure that the whole tour goes well...from start to finish. I hope everyone out there eventually understands that. I’m just as disappointed as the rest of you, I love that song. But it had a good run of 100 something shows, a nice long life...may it rest in peace. And may you all forgive me for unknowingly lying about it.

So anyway, with the news of the canceled show, our travel plans changed. We were supposed to play the show in Bristow on Wednesday and then drive that night to Mansfield. Instead, we left for Mansfield on Wednesday morning and would spend two days waiting for the call that it too, was canceled. Thankfully, that call never came and we loaded in the Mansfield show on Friday morning, as planned.

Ok, but back to our arrival in DC...

Holy cow! Cicadas are the most terrible, awful, scary, disgusting things on the planet. And they are EVERYWHERE!! They just fly in to walls (or your head) and buzz around and land everywhere. Gahhhhhhhhhhhh! I spent most of my time outdoors, running around, screeching like a little girl as cicadas blew by my head. The rest of the crew really seemed to enjoy my phobia...they have no idea what it’s like to be me. It’s insect hell in my world.

My bus driver is the best driver ever. For the most part, on days off the buses just stay parked at the hotel, but OUR bus driver takes us out on days off. Usually to Target or WalMart, or anywhere else that we feel like going. So the second day off in DC the guys went out and bought a barbecue, folding beach chairs, and tons of food and beer. We set up outside the bus in the parking lot of the hotel and barbecued all afternoon. It was great. And then the rain came. The DC area (or at least somewhere nearby) was on tornado watch, and when the rain hit, it hit hard. I’m from earthquake country, so to see the sky go green, and the light change, all the thunder and lighting, and the black clouds moving a million miles an hour and twisting together, it was totally surreal and cool. We all stood outside the bus and stared at the sky, waiting for something cool to happen, but eventually the storm passed and we were all left to find something better to do. I went to the movies and saw Shrek 2.

We left for Mansfield at 11AM on Wednesday, and it was a 9 hour drive. We were kind of in the middle of nowhere, our hotel was nestled comfortably in a business district...so we barbecued again. All afternoon, and all night...until the mosquitos ate us alive. We bought more beach chairs and all kinds of BBQ goodies, and now we’re in the market for an awning and some astroturf. We are now referring to the tour bus as our expensive trailer park.

The Mansfield show was a new wardrobe parade! Stevie wore something new on practically every song. She wore so many new things that I can’t even begin to tell you about it, hopefully you were either at the show or know someone who was. I was in shock. We had blue, red, pink, gold, black, we had lace, velvet, silk, satin, beads, hair clips, jewelry...I mean she brought it all out. Hopefully you can find pictures online somewhere, because it would take pages for me to describe each and every thing. The wardrobe room was a busy place that night.

Since we ended up canceling the show that would have been Stevie’s birthday, we gave her a little belated birthday celebration in Mansfield. We got a helium tank and pretty much filled her dressing room with about 100 balloons. Her room looked like a florist’s shop with how many flowers were in there. We also got her two cakes...one was a huge carrot cake that was decorated to look like a big present, we brought that one out during sound check and everyone came out on stage and sang happy birthday. The other cake was a bit of a joke...it was a small cake that we just put on the table in her dressing room, it was a dark chocolate cake that had a little figure of the grim reaper on it and he was standing in a graveyard...only the gravestones had the names of the songs that have been taken out of the set since we started this tour a year ago. It was the funniest cake, she loved it.

Load out was slow, as the loading dock only had two spaces for trucks, and we have seven of them. But we got out eventually and headed straight to Homdel, New Jersey for a show the next day. The dressing rooms in Holmdel were under the stage, but there was no elevator, there’s just a big hole in the floor and they lower the wardrobe cases (all 25 of them) one at a time through the hole. It was tedious. The show itself was great, although pretty uneventful, Stevie kept up with Mansfield as far as the plethora of wardrobe additions go.

We had a short drive that night to Scranton, and now we have two days off here. I’m thinking I’ll hit both the mall and the movie theater, and there’s also rumors of a Harry Houdini museum...the weird ideas people come up with never cease to amaze me, but it might be worth checking out.

Off to explore the many wonders of Scranton, PA...

CB

[gldstwmn]

Yeah. It was only played at three shows during the SYW tour. http://www.fmlegacy.com/concertsfmsayyouwill.html#priorshows

It was played during the entire run of the 2003 part of the tour if memory serves. It was only dropped on the second leg of the tour.

[Musicman408]

So I guess then, that it is never coming back:distress:

[BlackWidow]

So I guess then, that it is never coming back:distress:

Maybe she can present a "dramatic reading" of Silver Springs?:D

[Rickypt]

that sounds like a perfect strategy -
or semi perfect - lol
i still want them to go into the tour knowing 40 or 45 tunes -
and go with what they are feeling at the moment -

lindsey thinking : "hmmm - i could really rip a kick ass so afraid right now - but . . . .we have whats the world coming to on the the list next so i guess thats what i gotta do . . . "

stevie thinking: "wow - this is the perfect moment for a rousing Angel - the crowd is really attentive - lets bust it out . . .but wait . . .i guess i should stick to the set list and sing say you will . . . again. . . "

i know it's never been this way
and im a (at least ) semi-dead head so i like the live for the moment set -
BUT I THINK IT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE HARD CORE FANS TO GO TO MORE SHOWS IF IT WASN'T THE SAME SHOW (BASICALLY) EVERYNIGHT -

ok i accidently hit the caps lock up there - really i did- but im gonna leave it cos it seems right -

heeey youuuuu guyssssss -
surprise us :)
and do what it takes to get that lovable chris woman to show up unannounced at a few shows (at least) and keep our asses guessing -

sample ledge talk afterwards:

"what's that you say -

bob welch and walter egan came up and played a few tunes and came back for the encores .. .
hypnotized . . . get the f out of here they didn't do it - really???
blonde in the blue t-bird ??? right into magnet and steel?
nuh uhhhh - you had a dream .
no kidding??
frozen love . . . in the second set
with plenty of room left for stevie and lindsey material new and old??
oh my G!!!
man you are right i should have just taken a month or two of and followed the mac around the u.s. -"

What the hell were you smoking last night? :laugh: :laugh: Or was it the Nyquil.;)

[THINKABOUTIT]

question ;) on fmlegacy page, where do you click to read about past tour occurences...juicy tidbits, etc??:nod: I can't seem to find it!! oh god help! :laugh:

[UnwindedDreams]

I don't think it's retired...I believe they just dropped it for SYW. Who knows, Stevie might break it out at a solo concert.

[Johnny Stew]

dose of nyquilAhh, Nyquil... the night-time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, how-in-the-hell-did-I-end-up-passed-out-here-on-the-kitchen-floor medicine!

[goldustsongbird]

question ;) on fmlegacy page, where do you click to read about past tour occurences...juicy tidbits, etc??:nod: I can't seem to find it!! oh god help! :laugh:

http://www.fmlegacy.com/pasttours.html

[Sahara]

Who knows, Stevie might break it out at a solo concert.

Ahh no, it'd lose so much of its power if she couldn't bore her eyes into Lindsey's soul as she screamed it at him. :p Angry people. Very, very angry people.

[ontheEdgeof17]

So I guess then, that it is never coming back:distress:

Stevie has dropped several songs in the past that found their way back into the set at a future tour.

Songs that have been dropped and returned:

-Gold Dust Woman
-Stop Dragging My Heart Around
-Outside the Rain
-Gypsy
-Rhiannon

[Rickypt]

Stevie has dropped several songs in the past that found their way back into the set at a future tour.

Songs that have been dropped and returned:

-Gold Dust Woman
-Stop Dragging My Heart Around
-Outside the Rain
-Gypsy
-Rhiannon

-Beauty and the Beast
-Gold and Braid
-If Anyone Falls
-How Still My Love

[ontheEdgeof17]

^I was talking about songs that have been dropped during mid-tour do to vocal problems and other difficulities. :nod: ...but you're right, as well. :)


Oh, and Sara was dropped from the RAL Tour.

[Rickypt]

^I was talking about songs that have been dropped during mid-tour do to vocal problems and other difficulities. :nod: ...but you're right, as well. :)


Oh, and Sara was dropped from the RAL Tour.

Oh, gotcha.

And I didn't know Sara was ever on the RAL Tour! What, did she start forgetting the lyrics or something? She should've kept it in because the long instrumental ending gave her plenty of time to repowder her nose.

[Sahara]

plenty of time to repowder her nose.


:shocked: *falls over laughing*

[PenguinHead]

Silver Springs was played from 5-7-03 to 5-15-04. It was played at the majority of the shows during the SYW tour. I remember Cory Buckingham telling us that the doctor said Stevie either had to drop Silver Spring or Stand Back from the set list. I remember this vividly because the show that was cancelled was RIGHT before mine in Mansfield.

The Doctor's orders: "Take two pills, drop Silver Springs or Stand Back, and call me in the morning!" lol:rolleyes:

[gldstwmn]

Oh, gotcha.

And I didn't know Sara was ever on the RAL Tour! What, did she start forgetting the lyrics or something? She should've kept it in because the long instrumental ending gave her plenty of time to repowder her nose.

Hence the 20 minute intro to Stand Back. :laugh:

[AliceLover]

Hence the 20 minute intro to Stand Back. :laugh:

:laugh:
The Intro to Stand Back on that tour was pretty crazy, but I love Bobbye Hall so that makes up for it.

Its funny someone mentions Sara being done on the RAL tour because I was listening to that version today on Itunes and I really like it. I think it should have stayed in the set instead of Leather and Lace.

[diamondsnake]

The Doctor's orders: "Take two pills, drop Silver Springs or Stand Back, and call me in the morning!" lol:rolleyes:
I agree. What kind of lame excuse is that? I think there is more to the story.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Its funny someone mentions Sara being done on the RAL tour because I was listening to that version today on Itunes and I really like it. I think it should have stayed in the set instead of Leather and Lace.

I think she should have done her whole catalog on that tour. Ever.damn.song.cracked.the.hell.out.

[Musicman408]

It would be cool to hear the RAL version of Sara......:nod:

[MirrorInTheSky]

She also dropped Gypsy from the SYW tour. Not sure I ever heard why.

[Musicman408]

She also dropped Gypsy from the SYW tour. Not sure I ever heard why.

Oh man, I didn;t know she dropped Gypsy.:distress: She did it at the two shows I went to.

[JazmenFlowers]

I think she should have done her whole catalog on that tour. Ever.damn.song.cracked.the.hell.out.
:xoxo:

Cracked Out Stevie + Jazzy + Curty = love

[gldstwmn]

She also dropped Gypsy from the SYW tour. Not sure I ever heard why.

She replaced it with Sara.

[Musicman408]

She replaced it with Sara.

Yeah we definately got a Sara at our second show.:nod: