Saddam sentenced to death

[skcin]

Are we surprised? Does anyone care? Does this really mean anything to us? The Iraqi people? How involved is the U.S. and/or U.N. in this trial?

I can't help but feel that this sentence is mostly to say "see, we told you, we are winning, we brought the bad man to justice & now he'll pay." Am I wrong?

[estranged4life]

Are we surprised? Does anyone care? Does this really mean anything to us? The Iraqi people? How involved is the U.S. and/or U.N. in this trial?

I can't help but feel that this sentence is mostly to say "see, we told you, we are winning, we brought the bad man to justice & now he'll pay." Am I wrong?

it is supposed to give the US citizens the impression that Bush had a successful "mission accomplished" in regards to terrorists, Iraq & those pesky WMD's (I found a WMD this morning, Unfortunately the 'terror suspect' did not cover that WMD up in the litter box...Damned "Feline Extremists'!!!)

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[gldstwmn]

Are we surprised?

No


Does anyone care?


Yeah. We shouldn't be involved in this. He should be sentenced to prison for the rest of his life. But hanging? What does that say about democracy to the rest of the middle east?


Does this really mean anything to us?

Oh yes. It's one for the history books. And I don't think we'll come out of this one looking too good.


The Iraqi people?

Definitely. I'm sure many of them feel pretty strongly about this. At this point, they probably have mixed emotions about the whole deal.



How involved is the U.S. and/or U.N. in this trial?



It doesn't matter. What does matter is that we will always be perceived as responsible for this. And I don't think that's a good thing for us in the long run.

[eclipse]

The guy that found him that day in the hole should have shot him that day-
Said-
Sorry, he tried to escape-, I had to use deadly force

Same result
Saddam is dead

Tons and Tons of money saved on trials and rherotic, and theroy's and people's misery wathing this man parade around on TV in a courtroom waiting for his verdict while thier family members were already dead, maybe after they were tortured...Justice? doesn't exist for these sad people, just revenge

The American sholdier should have just shot him and be done with it.
But...that is not what we do...we don't decide the law, or invoke it ,we just bring criminals into custody...maybe we should have made an exception and just shot the bastard----

[PsychCat]

buh-bye.... :wavey:

[BlackWidow]

No



Yeah. We shouldn't be involved in this. He should be sentenced to prison for the rest of his life. But hanging? What does that say about democracy to the rest of the middle east?



Oh yes. It's one for the history books. And I don't think we'll come out of this one looking too good.



Definitely. I'm sure many of them feel pretty strongly about this. At this point, they probably have mixed emotions about the whole deal.



It doesn't matter. What does matter is that we will always be perceived as responsible for this. And I don't think that's a good thing for us in the long run.

I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U.S. comes off like self righteous BULLIES!

[DavidMn]

Dont let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out buddy.

[SteveMacD]

Yeah. We shouldn't be involved in this. He should be sentenced to prison for the rest of his life. But hanging? What does that say about democracy to the rest of the middle east?

Right. They should have put it on a ballot.

[gldstwmn]

Right. They should have put it on a ballot.

Ha! :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

The latest word is that it will be videotaped.

[BlackWidow]

The latest word is that it will be videotaped.

...of course it will..SICK!:shocked:

[shackin'up]

:distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress:

I know this will sound political incorrect and wussy sixties, But when I was 15 I wore a button that said "why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?"

This modern world should know better. This is gonna put a deeper canyon between worlds than one can imagine.

Who's gonna hang W.?

I got my cam ready.

[BlackWidow]

:distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress:

I know this will sound political incorrect and wussy sixties, But when I was 15 I wore a button that said "why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?"

This modern world should know better. This is gonna put a deeper canyon between worlds than one can imagine.

Who's gonna hang W.?

I got my cam ready.

....mine too.:nod: :thumbsup:

[skcin]

:distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress:

I know this will sound political incorrect and wussy sixties, But when I was 15 I wore a button that said "why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?"

This modern world should know better. This is gonna put a deeper canyon between worlds than one can imagine.

Who's gonna hang W.?

I got my cam ready.

I think you're spot on.

BTW - MSN reporting that he'll hang within the next 48 hours.

[BlackWidow]

I think you're spot on.

BTW - MSN reporting that he'll hang within the next 48 hours.

This is kinda freaking me out!!!:nod:

[ontheEdgeof17]

BTW - MSN reporting that he'll hang within the next 48 hours.

:nod: They keep saying now, "this weekend". Yeah. Let's kill a world leader during a time where there will be masses of people in one setting celebrating New Years.....perfect for "terrorist". :rolleyes:

We are dumb for leaking this information to the world. Sets us up. This whole thing is so outlandish, I can't believe it's happening.

[BlackWidow]

:nod: They keep saying now, "this weekend". Yeah. Let's kill a world leader during a time where there will be masses of people in one setting celebrating New Years.....perfect for "terrorist". :rolleyes:

We are dumb for leaking this information to the world. Sets us up. This whole thing is so outlandish, I can't believe it's happening.

I agree..and it is so damn creepy!:distress:

[irishgrl]

what with his last words to Iraqis and his goodbyes to his family, you watch, he'll be played off as a martyr for the cause (political)........

The sectarian violence will only increase and that country will implode IMO.

Personally, I am not sure I agree with a death sentence, but of course they didnt pass the memo my way.......In a strange sort of way, I feel compassion for him at the end, knowing that he will soon have to face his earthly deeds...thats an awful lot of bad Karma to have to overcome..........

[BlackWidow]

what with his last words to Iraqis and his goodbyes to his family, you watch, he'll be played off as a martyr for the cause (political)........

The sectarian violence will only increase and that country will implode IMO.

Personally, I am not sure I agree with a death sentence, but of course they didnt pass the memo my way.......In a strange sort of way, I feel compassion for him at the end, knowing that he will soon have to face his earthly deeds...thats an awful lot of bad Karma to have to overcome..........

PREACH IT!!!:nod:

[irishgrl]

I read that a watchdog group (forget which one) said his trial was a joke, that there were all sorts of miscarriages of justice and that the sentence wasnt valid because the trial wasnt proper....

[DavidMn]

I just saw online this morning where his execution will be carried out no later than Sunday.

[skcin]

I just saw online this morning where his execution will be carried out no later than Sunday.

Happy New Year, everyone!



:rolleyes:

[DavidMn]

Happy New Year, everyone!



:rolleyes:It seems they are in a great hurry to carry this out.

[gypsysoul]

Well they're saying within hours now.

Not only will a martyr be created but it will be a convenient peg for some on which to hang future acts of violence. So yeah, a clever move all round:rolleyes:

[GODDESS6]

I agree..and it is so damn creepy!:distress:

i agree also, this is so surreal at the moment, ~

[DrummerDeanna]

Now they're saying he's to be executed before 6AM Saturday....!

[macfanken]

This just seems really sick and morbid to me. :distress:

[DrummerDeanna]

^^

What's even more sick and morbid is US TV execs are weighing airing this thing. It's apparently being taped...I just heard about it on NPR...:distress:

[ontheEdgeof17]

^^

What's even more sick and morbid is US TV execs are weighing airing this thing. It's apparently being taped...I just heard about it on NPR...:distress:

Can we be more disrespectful to a human life? Sure he was considered a bad man, but come on! :rolleyes:



....and I'm sure he's probably already dead.

[SteveMacD]

Can we be more disrespectful to a human life?

Well, they could make it a Pay-Per-View event...

[SteveMacD]

This just seems really sick and morbid to me. :distress:

I disagree. I don't think it's sick and morbid enough! I mean, it's a simple hanging. They should cut out his tongue, chop off his hands, and chop off his little dictator. THEN hang him. Now, to top it off, they should have a pool to see what actually killed him: choking or bleeding. In short, they should do unto him just some of the awful things he did to others.

[The Catdancer]

Now they're saying he's to be executed before 6AM Saturday....!

Which is 10pm Friday for us.

[DrummerDeanna]

Which is 10pm Friday for us.

Thanks..I forgot to mention that the 6am was Bagdhad time.

And while the hanging is not something I wish to see....if tv execs do decide to air it I'm betting it'll be a ratings hit.

[gldstwmn]

^^

What's even more sick and morbid is US TV execs are weighing airing this thing. It's apparently being taped...I just heard about it on NPR...:distress:

They have confirmed that it won't be aired on live tv-thank god. That doesn't stop someone from videotaping it and putting it on youtube though.

[gldstwmn]

I disagree. I don't think it's sick and morbid enough! I mean, it's a simple hanging. They should cut out his tongue, chop off his hands, and chop off his little dictator. THEN hang him. Now, to top it off, they should have a pool to see what actually killed him: choking or bleeding. In short, they should do unto him just some of the awful things he did to others.

How biblical.

[BlackWidow]

They have confirmed that it won't be aired on live tv-thank god. That doesn't stop someone from videotaping it and putting it on youtube though.

Who would want to see that????? OJ..yes!

[estranged4life]

The national news channels are reporting he will be put to death within minutes from now.

[Nixxxed]

This doesn't make a bit of sense to me. How is it that Bush has kept peons from al-Qaeda and the Taliban locked up in Gitmo since 2001, and continues to keep them there (and possibly continues to torture them) because he claims they *may* still have valuable information, yet we're letting the Iraqis kill Hussein when we *know* he has valuable information?

For instance, was Saddam waterboarded to finally confess that he did in fact have connections with al-Qaeda and was involved in 9-11 (as Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have claimed ad nausem since before the Iraq war began)? Doesn't Saddam have valuable and juicy info on his neighbors, specifically IRAN? I could go on and on and on...

Never mind the fact that his sentencing hearing was fake, and was timed to occur two days before our midterm elections. This whole thing leaves me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[SteveMacD]

And...He's wormfood.

[BlackWidow]

Dead Dead Dead!!!

[gldstwmn]

This doesn't make a bit of sense to me. How is it that Bush has kept peons from al-Qaeda and the Taliban locked up in Gitmo since 2001, and continues to keep them there (and possibly continues to torture them) because he claims they *may* still have valuable information, yet we're letting the Iraqis kill Hussein when we *know* he has valuable information?

For instance, was Saddam waterboarded to finally confess that he did in fact have connections with al-Qaeda and was involved in 9-11 (as Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld have claimed ad nausem since before the Iraq war began)? Doesn't Saddam have valuable and juicy info on his neighbors, specifically IRAN? I could go on and on and on...

Never mind the fact that his sentencing hearing was fake, and was timed to occur two days before our midterm elections. This whole thing leaves me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

"He tried to kill my daddy!"

[gldstwmn]

Dead Dead Dead!!!

And I don't feel any better, safer or any of that bull****. In fact, I feel a bit worse than I did a little while ago.

[BlackWidow]

"He tried to kill my daddy!"

EXACTLY!!! Daddy's revenge!
Nevermind who else gets killed along the way...F***ER!

[carrie721]

"He tried to kill my daddy!"

god. it makes me ill to think we got into this huge mess in order to get a revenge kill. this execution was a mistake.

[BlackWidow]

And I don't feel any better, safer or any of that bull****. In fact, I feel a bit worse than I did a little while ago.

We are not safer..this is not over by a LONG SHOT!

[BlackWidow]

god. it makes me ill to think we got into this huge mess in order to get a revenge kill. this execution was a mistake.

Well..you know the Weapons Of Mass Destruction..plus 9/11..that they had nothing to do with..plus we had to impose our will on that country..to liberate them and teach them how to live..makes sense to me!!!:shrug:

[gldstwmn]

god. it makes me ill to think we got into this huge mess in order to get a revenge kill. this execution was a mistake.

I agree with you. And I fear the consequences of it. Where does the killing stop?

[carrie721]

Well..you know the Weapons Of Mass Destruction..plus 9/11..that they had nothing to do with..plus we had to impose our will on that country..to liberate them and teach them how to live..makes sense to me!!!:shrug:

well gosh, now that you explain it that way ... :shocked:

this administration makes me sick.

[carrie721]

I agree with you. And I fear the consequences of it. Where does the killing stop?

the timing is suspicious to me. nothing is a coincidence with this administration ... what is their aim??

[BlackWidow]

I agree with you. And I fear the consequences of it. Where does the killing stop?

It won't ..this will trigger more ****!!

[irishgrl]

I feel strangely sad.....:distress:

[gldstwmn]

the timing is suspicious to me. nothing is a coincidence with this administration ... what is their aim??

Let me put on my tin foil hat. :laugh: Seriously though, their timing sucks on this one because they're executing him during a Muslim holiday.

[BlackWidow]

Let me put on my tin foil hat. :laugh: Seriously though, their timing sucks on this one because they're executing him during a Muslim holiday.

this is just bad..bad..bad:distress:

[Nixxxed]

I agree with you. And I fear the consequences of it. Where does the killing stop?
As of this evening, our time, December was the deadliest month this year in Iraq. And there are still 2 days to go.

But we're winning, so it's OK.

[BlackWidow]

As of this evening, our time, December was the deadliest month this year in Iraq. And there are still 2 days to go.

But we're winning, so it's OK.

Killing = Winning :thumbsup:

[Für Elise]

this is so disgusting and there talking about showing video of it I can't believe it

[BlackWidow]

this is so disgusting and there talking about showing video of it I can't believe it

We can watch the O.J. special..then the hanging on FOX!!!:thumbsup:

[gldstwmn]

As of this evening, our time, December was the deadliest month this year in Iraq. And there are still 2 days to go.


We have sadly surpassed the amount of people killed in the 9/11 attacks. I wish they'd just impeach him.

[gldstwmn]

We can watch the O.J. special..then the hanging on FOX!!!:thumbsup:

They'd be the first one to air it. I'm surprised Geraldo isn't over there drawing us a map of where the hanging took place.

[BlackWidow]

They'd be the first one to air it. I'm surprised Geraldo isn't over there drawing us a map of where the hanging took place.

Oh honey..he's there!:nod:

[gldstwmn]

Oh honey..he's there!:nod:

I don't watch Faux but I figured he wouldn't miss this for the world.

[BlackWidow]

I don't watch Faux but I figured he wouldn't miss this for the world.

This could be his big come back!:thumbsup:

[gldstwmn]

This could be his big come back!:thumbsup:

:laugh: Well it's no Al Capone's vault...

[BlackWidow]

Let me put on my tin foil hat. :laugh: Seriously though, their timing sucks on this one because they're executing him during a Muslim holiday.

"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!"

[Nixxxed]

Hmmmmmmm....

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011736.php

Reuters, December 29th, 2006 18:35 GMT:
The White House declined to comment on the timing.
"That is a matter for the Iraqi people, we are observers to that process. They are a sovereign government and they will make their own decisions regarding carrying out justice," spokesman Scott Stanzel said in Crawford, Texas.

AP, December 29th, 2006 10:02 PM Eastern
An adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saddam would be executed before 6 a.m. Saturday, or 10 p.m. Friday EST. Saddam and others were convicted of murder in the killings of 148 Shiite Muslims from an Iraqi town where assassins tried to kill Saddam in 1982.
...
The time was agreed upon during a meeting Friday between U.S. and Iraqi officials, said the adviser, who declined to be quoted by name because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

-- Josh Marshall

[BlackWidow]

Hmmmmmmm....

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011736.php

Reuters, December 29th, 2006 18:35 GMT:


AP, December 29th, 2006 10:02 PM Eastern


-- Josh Marshall

Who are we to question this govt???:shrug:

[Nixxxed]

Who are we to question this govt???:shrug:
You're right. I was being unpatriotic and aiding the terrorists. My bad.

[BlackWidow]

You're right. I was being unpatriotic and aiding the terrorists. My bad.

We just went up to Orange Alert..THANKS BUDDY!!!;)

[gldstwmn]

We just went up to Orange Alert..THANKS BUDDY!!!;)

Oh for christ's sakes. What does that mean exactly? We all have to fly wearing nothing but a plastic bag?

[PsychCat]

I hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

[Für Elise]

that's funny. I just heard a statement from Bush going on about how he got a fair trial but his victims didn't. it's a point but not one that bush should be making considering the government has tortured people in guantanamo bay and has held them without charge for years and without access to lawyers.

[BlackWidow]

Oh for christ's sakes. What does that mean exactly? We all have to fly wearing nothing but a plastic bag?

I hate ORANGE ALERTS..like what does one even wear???:sorry:

[Für Elise]

I hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

no but they torture people from other countries

[gldstwmn]

I hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

Thanks for letting us all know that we don't know enough about Saddam. :rolleyes: I've been alive during his entire reign and know full well what an evil asshole he was. Our president is no different. I, for one will not stop bashing him here on this board or anywhere else for that matter. If you don't like the subject matter, you're free to ignore it.

[gldstwmn]

I hate ORANGE ALERTS..like what does one even wear???:sorry:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I don't know, Mrs. Howell.

[carrie721]

I hope plenty of folks will watch the retrospectives about Saddam that will follow this evenings events. This guy was pure evil, as were his sons. No doubt that fact has been forgotten in favor of bashing Bush (which to be honest is SO tired!). At least in this country we are free to say whatever we will about our "leaders" and not fear torture and retaliation.... let alone mass genocide.

i agree that what he did was disgusting ... but that doesn't mean his execution is right, or prudent. :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

i agree that what he did was disgusting ... but that doesn't mean his execution is right, or prudent. :shrug:

It is neither, in my opinion.

[PsychCat]

Thanks for letting us all know that we don't know enough about Saddam. :rolleyes: I've been alive during his entire reign and know full well what an evil asshole he was. Our president is no different. I, for one will not stop bashing him here on this board or anywhere else for that matter. If you don't like the subject matter, you're free to ignore it.

Thank you for your response.

[gldstwmn]

Thank you for your response.

Anytime. We may joke around but this board contains a very intelligent, politically aware group of people. For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.

[PsychCat]

For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.

I would like to publicly APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by anything I said/wrote.
I think the world of coming to these boards and chatting with y'all.
I was not speaking of anyone one in general... it's just that there is already so much low energy (ie, hate and dissention) in the world and I suppose I let me ego do the typing. When I said "everyone" I meant everyone everywhere... not just you guys. SORRY for any misunderstanding.
And I better end on that note.
Again... I apologize and welcome any personal notes in response. Thanks!

[gldstwmn]

Alright then, let's move on. His exectuion was videotaped and is going to be disseminated amongst the Iraqi people. We'll probably get at least the still photographs with our Sunday papers.

[BlackWidow]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I don't know, Mrs. Howell.

What are you going to wear, Mrs. Kravitz?

[sparky]

Grisly but predictable. While the Boogeyman, oops, I mean, Osama Bin Laden, roams about. Big victory. We were pissed off at an AWOL bad guy and so we went out and killed the neighborhood bully. What a joke.

God Bless America.

[estranged4life]

Alright then, let's move on. His exectuion was videotaped and is going to be disseminated amongst the Iraqi people. We'll probably get at least the still photographs with our Sunday papers.

according to a certain Unfair & Unbalanced news corp., the video & pictures of the execution will be shown shortly.

[irishgrl]

that's funny. I just heard a statement from Bush going on about how he got a fair trial but his victims didn't. it's a point but not one that bush should be making considering the government has tortured people in guantanamo bay and has held them without charge for years and without access to lawyers.
for once I agree with you. Gad.

[irishgrl]

Anytime. We may joke around but this board contains a very intelligent, politically aware group of people. For you to insinuate that we don't know what we are talking about is insulting and I hope you realize that.
can I get an AMEN!!!!!

[SteveMacD]

I think the only thing that's unjust about this is that we can't kill him again.

[irishgrl]

I would like to publicly APOLOGIZE to anyone who may have been offended by anything I said/wrote.
I think the world of coming to these boards and chatting with y'all.
I was not speaking of anyone one in general... it's just that there is already so much low energy (ie, hate and dissention) in the world and I suppose I let me ego do the typing. When I said "everyone" I meant everyone everywhere... not just you guys. SORRY for any misunderstanding.
And I better end on that note.
Again... I apologize and welcome any personal notes in response. Thanks!
Your apology was sweet and I must say, in the main, I find myself agreeing with you a lot.....but for some reason, I dont find myself celebrating this mans death. Somehow, I get the feeling he was actually a sacrificial lamb, and even tho his regime committed atrocities, there was more stability under his rule than there is with our help :shrug:

[BlackWidow]

according to a certain Unfair & Unbalanced news corp., the video & pictures of the execution will be shown shortly.
....maybe on YOUTUBE..???

[ontheEdgeof17]

....maybe on YOUTUBE..???

I've already seen the photographs. I don't think I want to watch the video.:distress:

[gldstwmn]

What are you going to wear, Mrs. Kravitz?

I'm in a quandry over that and may not be able to leave the house. :p

[gldstwmn]

according to a certain Unfair & Unbalanced news corp., the video & pictures of the execution will be shown shortly.

I'm sure they were salivating at the the thought of showing them.

[sparky]

I just saw a link on drudgereport and managed to not watch it.

One image I don't need in my head.