Your Thoughts On Mystery TO Me

[Musicman408]

Personally, I love this album. To me it is a classic and didn't get the attention it deserved.....

Much Love,
Ethan

[HomerMcvie]

It's the best, most consistent album ever recorded by FM. Truly greatness!

[michelle2677]

uh oh....here he goes!!! :laugh:

:xoxo:

well, I just bought it. I like a few songs on it so far, but have to give it a fair chance. I'll report later. :sorry:

[HomerMcvie]

uh oh....here he goes!!! :laugh:

:xoxo:

well, I just bought it. I like a few songs on it so far, but have to give it a fair chance. I'll report later. :sorry:

Yeah, she bought it upon MY recommendation!!!:wavey: :)

[macfan 57]

It's the best, most consistent album ever recorded by FM. Truly greatness!

I'll second that.:nod: It starts with "Emerald Eyes" & ends with "Why" and everything in between is just about as good...near perfect album.

[ryan8472]

It's one of my favorite Mac albums. Maybe #2, next to Tusk. :D

[michelle2677]

Yeah, she bought it upon MY recommendation!!!:wavey: :)

don't start taking all the credit just yet! I haven't said I "liked" it by any means!! :D

[HomerMcvie]

don't start taking all the credit just yet! I haven't said I "liked" it by any means!! :D
Then I DOUBT you'll have any company in THIS forum!:laugh:

[michelle2677]

Then I DOUBT you'll have any company in THIS forum!:laugh:

I highly doubt that. I'm sure you and I will find SOMETHING to argue about!

[HomerMcvie]

I highly doubt that. I'm sure you and I will find SOMETHING to argue about!
We'll always have our buckeyes and ketchup!

But MTM is better than buckeyes and ketchup combined(let's stay on topic in this forum, or we'll get yelled at!).:lol:

[michelle2677]

o.k. I like Believe Me and Keep on Going. From what I've had time to listen to so far, these are the two I like the best.






happy??:p

[HomerMcvie]

No love for Bob??? If you don't like Hypnotized, there's something wrong with you!:D

[michelle2677]

No love for Bob??? If you don't like Hypnotized, there's something wrong with you!:D
I thought he wrote Keep on Going :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

I thought he wrote Keep on Going :shrug:He did, but he didn't sing it.







"Bob Welch saved Fleetwood Mac" - Mick Fleetwood

[ryan8472]

I think the simple fact that this album has 'Why' on it, makes it amazing. ;) :wavey:

[HomerMcvie]

I think the simple fact that this album has 'Why' on it, makes it amazing. ;) :wavey:Thank you. Michelle has yet to even LIKE Why.:distress:

[ryan8472]

Thank you. Michelle has yet to even LIKE Why.:distress:

What's not to like about Why? It's brilliant!

[michelle2677]

What's not to like about Why? It's brilliant!
Well, Homer was a little off base. I never said I didn't like it. I haven't listened to it yet.

[ryan8472]

Well, Homer was a little off base. I never said I didn't like it. I haven't listened to it yet.

Well thats a different story then! :nod:

Why havent you listened to it yet? :mad: :laugh: :xoxo:

[SortaSavageLike]

Well, Homer was a little off base. I never said I didn't like it. I haven't listened to it yet.

Why?
Why.
Why?
Why!
Huh?
Huh? Why!
Why, huh?
Why!
Why!
What?!

[desertangel]

One of the most played CDs I have is a home made version with Mystery to Me backed by Bare Trees. It's a wonderful hour or so of music that flows amazingly well. To me, those two albums seem to mark the end of one era and beginning of another with the band. There are very few transitions that haven't been all that great, which reflects in a positive way for the core. They and some might not agree It's almost like you can feel a certain energy that's different, but seems to lead to some very progressive (and in some cases, pop-driven) stuff.

[michelle2677]

Well thats a different story then! :nod:

Why havent you listened to it yet? :mad: :laugh: :xoxo:
hey-cut me some slack! :laugh: . I just bought the album 3 days ago AND I am so stepping out of my comfort zone here. But that's cool. I have to "listen" to the songs instead of speeding through or I'll never like them. And it's the last track :D

[ryan8472]

hey-cut me some slack! :laugh: . I just bought the album 3 days ago AND I am so stepping out of my comfort zone here. But that's cool. I have to "listen" to the songs instead of speeding through or I'll never like them. And it's the last track :D

Well it's ONLY the most liked, most talked about and all around most wonderful song on the album. :p When I bought my copy, I listened to that song first. :nod: :laugh:

[foxyluva]

It is an amazing album for sure. It was my favourite album from the transitional years for a long time, but now I prefer "Bare Trees" - I feel its just more consistent....

"Hypnotized" and "Why" are two of my favourite Fleetwood Mac songs though, along with "Come A Little Bit Closer" "The Ghost" and "Child of Mine" :)

[nicepace]

Mystery to Me is a great album. Both Bob and Christine were really cooking as songwriters on this one. The album's only weaknesses are the cover of "For Your Love," which isn't a bad song, but is unnecessary (the original is better) -- and the cover "art." What were they thinking? It's on my list of worst album covers ever by any band. Why they couldn't have used that fabulous picture of the band under the skylight (that appears on the inside of the gatefold cover on the LP) as the cover, I will never know.

[macfan 57]

and the cover "art." What were they thinking? It's on my list of worst album covers ever by any band. Why they couldn't have used that fabulous picture of the band under the skylight (that appears on the inside of the gatefold cover on the LP) as the cover, I will never know.

I actually like the album cover, however nothing tops that fantastic band picture inside. That's my favorite picture of Fleetwood Mac from any era.

[chiliD]

I'm still irked at Bob Weston for screwing up the subsequent tour. Mystery To Me could well have been (well, "was on the way" to being) what the white album ended up being, their "breakthrough" album in the US. "Hypnotized", "Believe Me", "Just Crazy Love" & "Miles Away" were getting airplay on FM Radio. The only thing they needed was an AM radio hit. (which they didn't get until "Over My Head") The tour was going over well. Then the tour was canceled due to Bob Weston & Jenny Fleetwood's affair.

And, I'm a little pissed at Mick for "going off the deep end" in 1973 when he & Jenny were having problems, yet in 1975, he didn't bat an eye about considering cancelling THAT tour when he & Jenny were breaking up again...it was "circle the wagons, we're carrying on, full speed ahead".

The album's only weaknesses are the cover of "For Your Love," which isn't a bad song, but is unnecessary (the original is better) -- and the cover "art."

"Weaknesses"?!? :shrug: Mystery To Me HAS no "weaknesses". :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

Yep, Weston SCREWED up!, what could've been the BIG breakthough(although as Chili said, Mick's to blame, too, for not just "sucking it up").
Oh god, what would we have ever done without B/N?:confused: :confused: :lol: :lol:

[michelle2677]

I'm starting to like the album much more. I canNOT get the chorus to Hypnotized and Believe Me OUT of my head!!

Much more appreciation for Why, but it's still not up on the favs just yet.......:sorry:



maybe tomorrow though :)

[DavidMn]

My favorite album of the Bob Welch era.

[HomerMcvie]

My favorite album of the Bob Welch era.

My favorite album of the Fleetwood Mac era.

[DavidMn]

My favorite album of the Fleetwood Mac era.It's right up there for me too. Maybe #3 or so.

[nicepace]

It's hard to choose, but I do think Mystery To Me is my favorite FM album, with Bare Trees and Heroes are Hard to Find a close second and third. The five Welch era albums are my five favorite FM albums.

To change the subject a bit, why is all of Fleetwood Mac up through 1974 lumped together in this one forum? I think the Green era Mac and the Welch era Mac ought to have separate forums. The change from the Green era to the Welch era is the biggest musical transformation the Mac has ever undergone (from a blues band to a rock/pop band).

[jeremy spencer]

It's hard to choose, but I do think Mystery To Me is my favorite FM album, with Bare Trees and Heroes are Hard to Find a close second and third. The five Welch era albums are my five favorite FM albums.

To change the subject a bit, why is all of Fleetwood Mac up through 1974 lumped together in this one forum? I think the Green era Mac and the Welch era Mac ought to have separate forums. The change from the Green era to the Welch era is the biggest musical transformation the Mac has ever undergone (from a blues band to a rock/pop band).

... my sentiments entirely!

[PsychCat]

One of the most played CDs I have is a home made version with Mystery to Me backed by Bare Trees. It's a wonderful hour or so of music that flows amazingly well. To me, those two albums seem to mark the end of one era and beginning of another with the band.

I totally agree BUT have to add "Future Games"!
Those three albums really seemed to have their own era and air about them.
They are my "go to" Mac cds when I'm in more of a meditative mood.
The musicianship truly stands on it's own... something that was perhaps put more on the back burner when the hits started coming.
Know what I'm saying?? :wavey:

[Neb-Maat-Re]

To change the subject a bit, why is all of Fleetwood Mac up through 1974 lumped together in this one forum? I think the Green era Mac and the Welch era Mac ought to have separate forums. The change from the Green era to the Welch era is the biggest musical transformation the Mac has ever undergone (from a blues band to a rock/pop band).

... my sentiments entirely!

Hey, there's that man again!

So, in that case should Kiln House get a forum all of it's own?

[jeremy spencer]

Hey, there's that man again!

So, in that case should Kiln House get a forum all of it's own?


Ha! I actually said that in my original draft of my reply! But then I deleted it! Well ... maybe there should be, but that could get complicated. Could be food for more hairsplitting though...

[SteveMacD]

I was thinking they should combine the Peter Green forum with this forum (pretty much the same crowd). Actually, I'd also add the Post-Rumours forum too, as it's never really all that busy, and is also pretty much the same crowd. But that might be too much of a technical nightmare, in terms of archiving.

[macfan 57]

I'd combine the Peter Green/Fleetwood Mac era & Peter Green solo into one forum. Then combine Kiln House with the Welch era into another forum, unless Jeremy would like to moderate a separate forum for Kiln House.;) :D

I'd keep the Post Rumours forum the same, except I'd add anything regarding Say You Will into that forum. SYW is NOT the Rumours line-up.

[Gailh]

I'd keep the Post Rumours forum the same, except I'd add anything regarding Say You Will into that forum. SYW is NOT the Rumours line-up.

:lol: :lol:

Gail

[chiliD]

I'd keep the Post Rumours forum the same, except I'd add anything regarding Say You Will into that forum. SYW is NOT the Rumours line-up.
DEFINITELY!!!

Over on the Allman Bros site, they have forums for nearly all the ex-members as well as individual forums for the current members. Some forums are so infrequently posted to, you can hear crickets...but then it's like that in non-Rumours & Stevie Nicks sections here. Others, such as the Duane Allman, Dickey Betts & Gregg Allman forums are almost impacted they're posted to so often (kind of like the Stevie Nicks forum here)

So, if that's not too unwieldy, it might work here in a slight different form.

Here's a suggestion of the forums:

Current band (Post-Dance, SYW)
The Rhythm Section (Mick & John...from beginning to now)
Lindsey Buckingham (solo)
Stevie Nicks (solo)
Mini-Mac (Neale Haywood, Brett Tuggle, Taku Hirano, the singers, ex-Minimac'ers i.e. Lenny Castro, Isaac Assante, etc)

Past incarnations:
Before The Beginning (John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Levi Set, Boilerhouse, Peter B's Looners, The Cheynes, etc)
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer (1967 through Kiln House; PG, JS & DK solo)
Middle Mac (1971-1974, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Dave Walker solo)
Rumours lineup (1975-1987, 1997, Buckingham Nicks)
Post-Rumours (BTM, Time...RV, the two BB's, Dave Mason solo)
Christine McVie (solo)

Chit Chat

[macfan 57]

DEFINITELY!!!

Over on the Allman Bros site, they have forums for nearly all the ex-members as well as individual forums for the current members. Some forums are so infrequently posted to, you can hear crickets...but then it's like that in non-Rumours & Stevie Nicks sections here. Others, such as the Duane Allman, Dickey Betts & Gregg Allman forums are almost impacted they're posted to so often (kind of like the Stevie Nicks forum here)

So, if that's not too unwieldy, it might work here in a slight different form.

Here's a suggestion of the forums:

Current band (Post-Dance, SYW)
The Rhythm Section (Mick & John...from beginning to now)
Lindsey Buckingham (solo)
Stevie Nicks (solo)
Mini-Mac (Neale Haywood, Brett Tuggle, Taku Hirano, the singers, ex-Minimac'ers i.e. Lenny Castro, Isaac Assante, etc)

Past incarnations:
Before The Beginning (John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Levi Set, Boilerhouse, Peter B's Looners, The Cheynes, etc)
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer (1967 through Kiln House; PG, JS & DK solo)
Middle Mac (1971-1974, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Dave Walker solo)
Rumours lineup (1975-1987, 1997, Christine solo, Buckingham Nicks)
Post-Rumours (BTM, Time...RV, the two BB's, Dave Mason solo)

Chit Chat

I think Christine should have her own solo forum. If Buckingham, Nicks & the rhythm section can each have their own forums, then so should Christine.

[chiliD]

I think Christine should have her own solo forum. If Buckingham, Nicks & the rhythm section can each have their own forums, then so should Christine.

Right...good catch...I was going to do that, but forgot to change it before posting. Then work got in the way and I didn't get around to editing my post.

There...edited. :thumbsup:

[macfan 57]

Right...good catch...I was going to do that, but forgot to change it before posting. Then work got in the way and I didn't get around to editing my post.

There...edited. :thumbsup:

That's better. I thought you were dissing Christine.:)

[nicepace]

Past incarnations:
Before The Beginning (John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Levi Set, Boilerhouse, Peter B's Looners, The Cheynes, etc)
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer (1967 through Kiln House; PG, JS & DK solo)
Middle Mac (1971-1974, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Dave Walker solo)


The "Before the Beginning" section needs to include Chicken Shack and Christine's solo career of '69.

I am having trouble figuring out whether I think Kiln House should go in the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac section or whether it should go in the Middle-Mac (I like that expression). On the one hand, it belongs in with the rest of Jeremy's work; but stylistically it is not much like the earlier albums of the PG era. Then again, stylistically it's not much like the Mid-Mac either. I think I'd vote to put it in the Mid-Mac just because it was released in 1970.

But I think I'd let Jeremy decide. :)

[ryan8472]

The "Before the Beginning" section needs to include Chicken Shack and Christine's solo career of '69.

I am having trouble figuring out whether I think Kiln House should go in the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac section or whether it should go in the Middle-Mac (I like that expression). On the one hand, it belongs in with the rest of Jeremy's work; but stylistically it is not much like the earlier albums of the PG era. Then again, stylistically it's not much like the Mid-Mac either. I think I'd vote to put it in the Mid-Mac just because it was released in 1970.

But I think I'd let Jeremy decide. :)

I would put Kiln House in the "Middle Mac" category, simply based on the fact that Peter Green was not on the album. ;)

[chiliD]

The "Before the Beginning" section needs to include Chicken Shack and Christine's solo career of '69.

Hence the "etc". ;)

I would put Kiln House in the "Middle Mac" category, simply based on the fact that Peter Green was not on the album. ;)

You're overlooking the "featuring Jeremy Spencer" aspect of that first category. THAT's why I included Kiln House in that category.

[Dreamz19]

Personally, I love this album. To me it is a classic and didn't get the attention it deserved.....

Much Love,
Ethan

Loved it! It is my favorite album of the Pre-Rumours lineups. Hypnotized is such a great song. It should have been a hit IMO. That lineup did not get the credit they deserved.

[HomerMcvie]

Loved it! It is my favorite album of the Pre-Rumours lineups. Hypnotized is such a great song. It should have been a hit IMO. That lineup did not get the credit they deserved.

^^^^Hey Michellewithabunchofnumbers, are you seeing the love?

[Dreamz19]

o.k. I like Believe Me and Keep on Going. From what I've had time to listen to so far, these are the two I like the best.
happy??:p

Awww you gotta at least love "Hypotized," which is one of the best tracks on the album. I think "Hypotized and "Keep Going On" are my favorite if I had to choose.

[michelle2677]

^^^^Hey Michellewithabunchofnumbers, are you seeing the love?
im writing my "review" for you right now but you're being a px5 in the other forum i may just scratch the whole thing :p

[michelle2677]

Awww you gotta at least love "Hypotized," which is one of the best tracks on the album. I think "Hypotized and "Keep Going On" are my favorite if I had to choose.
i really love the whole album 'cept 2 songs. But believe me is my fav with keep on goinga close 2nd.

[foxyluva]

I have to agree that "Hypnotized" and "Keep on Going" are the best on this album, but not lets forget about the masterpiece known as "Why"....

For some reason, this album reminds me of a sunny day. And "Bare Trees" reminds me of winter morning :laugh:

[DavidMn]

The only one I dont really care for is probably The City

[michelle2677]

The only one I dont really care for is probably The City


I can deal with that one. Forever is my least favorite.

[Dreamz19]

i really love the whole album 'cept 2 songs. But believe me is my fav with keep on goinga close 2nd.

That's good news. I am really glad you enjoyed it overall. :)

[Neb-Maat-Re]

DEFINITELY!!!

Mini-Mac (Neale Haywood, Brett Tuggle, Taku Hirano, the singers, ex-Minimac'ers i.e. Lenny Castro, Isaac Assante, etc)



How about Alt-Mac - Todd Sharp, George Hawkins, anyone else who has appeared on more than one solo project or in place of a regular Macster?

[PenguinHead]

No one has mentioned the lost track from Mystry To Me -- the Bob Welch song "Good Things Come to Those Who Wait." Many early issues list this song and also include the lyrics. It was, however, replaced, seemingly at the last minute with the cover song "For Your Love."

Has this song ever surfaced anywhere?

Also, is there any info on the set list for their aborted tour? Regarding live performances from that album, I'm only aware of:

Hypnotized
Why
Miles Away
Believe Me

[macfan 57]

No one has mentioned the lost track from Mystry To Me -- the Bob Welch song "Good Things Come to Those Who Wait." Many early issues list this song and also include the lyrics. It was, however, replaced, seemingly at the last minute with the cover song "For Your Love."

Has this song ever surfaced anywhere?

Yes, Bob recorded it. It's on his solo album, Three Hearts. Christine sang backing vocals on the track.

[chiliD]

No one has mentioned the lost track from Mystry To Me -- the Bob Welch song "Good Things Come to Those Who Wait." Many early issues list this song and also include the lyrics. It was, however, replaced, seemingly at the last minute with the cover song "For Your Love."

Has this song ever surfaced anywhere?

Yes...Bob Welch re-recorded (and retitled) it for his Three Hearts album. It's called "Don't Wait Too Long".

I think adding "For Your Love" was a good idea. It's a great version. Bob said in his first Q&A, that his own version of "Good Things..." wasn't much different than the MTM version. With that being the case, to me, FYL fits the whole MTM vibe a bit better.

My LP copy of Mystery To Me has "Good Things..." listed on both the cover & lyric sheet; since I bought the album within a week of its release.

Maybe if Rhino/WB Special Products gets off their collective asses and finish the rest of the catalogue remasters, we might get to hear the original "Good Things..." as a bonus track. (one of the songs that SHOULD've been included on The Chain box)

[Dreamz19]

i really love the whole album 'cept 2 songs. But believe me is my fav with keep on goinga close 2nd.

Believe isn't a huge favorite of mine but I LOVE that paino intro and when she says "You Gotta Believe." That was very pretty.

[michelle2677]

Believe isn't a huge favorite of mine but I LOVE that paino intro and when she says "You Gotta Believe." That was very pretty.

I think I'm liking all the ones other people don't like as much! Weird.
oh..and I checked my iPod. for SOME reason (i really don't know why because I don't feel like I have played it that much) Why is my #3 song played. I KNOW I've played others more, so maybe something's wrong with it.

[Dreamz19]

I think I'm liking all the ones other people don't like as much! Weird.
oh..and I checked my iPod. for SOME reason (i really don't know why because I don't feel like I have played it that much) Why is my #3 song played. I KNOW I've played others more, so maybe something's wrong with it.

Sounds like my deal with "Mirage." Most people seem to hate "Empire State" or not like "Only Over You" that much (at least on other boards) but I really really like those songs. As for the ipod, I am one of those late people that doesn't have one :( ....YET! Whenever, people start talking about it I'm like :shrug: :o

BTW Michelle, I had looked at your photobucket link and you're really pretty. You actually remind me of Sara Evans a bit, excluding the nasty divorce and porno lovin hubby....I guess :D

[michelle2677]

Sounds like my deal with "Mirage." Most people seem to hate "Empire State" or not like "Only Over You" that much (at least on other boards) but I really really like those songs. As for the ipod, I am one of those late people that doesn't have one :( ....YET! Whenever, people start talking about it I'm like :shrug: :o

BTW Michelle, I had looked at your photobucket link and you're really pretty. You actually remind me of Sara Evans a bit, excluding the nasty divorce and porno lovin hubby....I guess :D

Yeah, I'm not really fond of those songs either ;)
I didn't really get the big deal about the iPod either, until, well, I got one. It is SO nice. You don't have to switch cds all the time in your car. Of course me being the "naturally" blonde person that I am...I didn't realize you organize everything from your computer. So I spent about 2hours going through 3,000 songs putting them in my on-the-go playlist FROM my iPod. I'm glad I put a stop to that sh*t REAL quick!:lol: If you get the chance to get one-I would recommend it :)

and that is very sweet of you to say that!!:xoxo: I guess I should apologize for some of the pics that are in there if they offended you:lol: I've never been told I look like her, but I would love to have her hair!!! :D

[Dreamz19]

Yeah, I'm not really fond of those songs either ;)
I didn't really get the big deal about the iPod either, until, well, I got one. It is SO nice. You don't have to switch cds all the time in your car. Of course me being the "naturally" blonde person that I am...I didn't realize you organize everything from your computer. So I spent about 2hours going through 3,000 songs putting them in my on-the-go playlist FROM my iPod. I'm glad I put a stop to that sh*t REAL quick!:lol: If you get the chance to get one-I would recommend it :)

and that is very sweet of you to say that!!:xoxo: I guess I should apologize for some of the pics that are in there if they offended you:lol: I've never been told I look like her, but I would love to have her hair!!! :D

:laugh: Well thanks for the tip. I plan on getting an ipod soon so I'll remember that. I am soooo sick of carrying my CD's around. My sister is always making fun of me about that. I almost bought one last month but I realized I had to many bills to pay. Right now I am a poor college student :distress:

But you're welcome. And no need to apologize I wasn't offended at all :)