Forgotten Stevie Masterpieces....

[foxyluva]

Which songs do you think are absolute masterpieces that will/have gone unheard by the general public? Songs that are just right up there with the best of the best?

Im a firm believer that 'Rose Garden' and 'Escape from Berlin' are the two forgotten masterpieces from Stevie's back catalogue - they are top notch writing and are just brilliant in every aspect :thumbsup:

What other songs do you think belong under the 'forgotten masterpiece' title??!!!

[JazmenFlowers]

If I Were You
Some Become Strangers
Trouble In Shangri-La
Love Is
Battle of the Dragon
Sleeping Angel
Sable On Blonde

[foxyluva]

Trouble In Shangri-La
Love Is
Battle of the Dragon
Sleeping Angel
Sable On Blonde

Yes to all of those :xoxo:

We have added a few more to the list over @ sevenwonders:

Fall From Grace
Everybody Finds Out *drool*
Storms
Illume

btw - did you check your "Maxwell" thread - I provided the links to all those articles on him being gay :woohoo:

[amber]

I just wanted to say how lame Rose Garden is, I can't believe you picked it. :laugh:

I think Kind of Woman should be more well known. That's Alright. Angel, especially.

[foxyluva]

I just wanted to say how lame Rose Garden is, I can't believe you picked it. :laugh:

Bitch :laugh:


I think Kind of Woman should be more well known. That's Alright. Angel, especially.

Mmm. I agree with "Kind of Woman" and "Thats Alright" - but I don't really think of "Angel" as a masterpiece - a 'fun' song sure, but I don't consider it elite :sorry: :p

[amber]

Bitch :laugh:



a 'fun' song sure, but I don't consider it elite :sorry: :p

That's why it is elite. A fun Stevie song.
But really, it's more unusual than you are giving it credit for, I think. And the words are loverly. I think it could have been a nice, widely liked little radio hit.

Some people really like Rose Garden. I like it better this year than I ever did before, when it made me cringe and barf.

[jannieC]

I just wanted to say how lame Rose Garden is, I can't believe you picked it. :laugh:

I think Kind of Woman should be more well known. That's Alright. Angel, especially.
I *LOVE* Kind of Woman. And now I have a cool demo of it- so I'm killing that lately.

[foxyluva]

That's why it is elite. A fun Stevie song.
But really, it's more unusual than you are giving it credit for, I think. And the words are loverly. I think it could have been a nice, widely liked little radio hit.

Some people really like Rose Garden. I like it better this year than I ever did before, when it made me cringe and barf.

Yeah - I do like 'Angel' - but its never been one of my favourites - Im trying to change my opinion of it, or at least Im trying to change ;)

"Rose Garden" took a while to really sink in with me also - but the amount of times you've listen to 'Street Angel' - it should have happened long ago :laugh: It tells a great story - one of the most clear and coherent lyrics Stevie has ever written....

[amber]

I *LOVE* Kind of Woman. And now I have a cool demo of it- so I'm killing that lately.
It really is special. It's haunting, music wise. I know it says "haunt" in the lyrics, but I wasn't thinking of that. The music is strange to me, like one of those alternate world weird circuses. I know, that doesn't make sense, I can't think of a better way to describe it.
So, I guess the music is perfect for the lyrics.

[amber]

It tells a great story - one of the most clear and coherent lyrics Stevie has ever written....
That is very true, but I've never cared about that. I basically don't like the music and the melody. Didn't she write it when she was 17, though? Pretty impressive.

[foxyluva]

That is very true, but I've never cared about that. I basically don't like the music and the melody. Didn't she write it when she was 17, though? Pretty impressive.

Very impressive. And its amazing how at that time of Stevie's life - those lyrics she wrote all those years ago became relevant to her life in 1994 - and possibly her life even now....

[goldie]

Battle of the Dragon, for sure, as mentioned above.

Blue Lamp
Thousand Days


This after I just listened to Disc 3 of Enchanted all day today.

[jannieC]

It really is special. It's haunting, music wise. I know it says "haunt" in the lyrics, but I wasn't thinking of that. The music is strange to me, like one of those alternate world weird circuses. I know, that doesn't make sense, I can't think of a better way to describe it.
So, I guess the music is perfect for the lyrics.
I know exactly what you mean. I'm trying to write a response to this and I'm watching Rockstar Supernova, and stupid Magli singing Crush is making it impossible. Ok, he's done.

This song is so different from Stevie's other songs.

You didn't mean to meet her you cry
Oh but the sun goes down every night

Chills!

[BlackWidow]

Storms..Illume...China Doll.
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[BlackWidow]

Very impressive. And its amazing how at that time of Stevie's life - those lyrics she wrote all those years ago became relevant to her life in 1994 - and possibly her life even now....
Love your sig pic..she looks like she's in the tower awaiting execution...:p
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[David]

I think all the unknown & little-known Stevie songs are masterpieces! I love them all. I'm one of those fans who believe that Stevie never wrote a bad song. Every song of hers is a gift to us, & each song offers a fascinating glimpse into her world. She is there to teach us & to embrace us, to soothe us & to love us.

She is our Ultimate.

Blessed Be, everyone.

P.S. This topic reminds me of something on the 7 dunders board.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I didn't really think about Rose Garden when SA first came out but that year on the tour she told the story about how she wrote it when she was only 16 or something like that. It was such a cute story and made me really listen to the song. I was hooked after that. It still gets me teary eyed when I sing along with it.

[Mad4stevie]

I am one of the lovers of Rose Garden. Oh, how I can relate . . .

In addition:

Mistaken Love
That's Alright (not the Mirage version)


And:

The original versions of Smile At You and Goodbye Baby.

[foxyluva]

Over @ sevenwonders, we have decided on the following so far;

Trouble In Shangri-La
Storms
No Spoken Word
Battle of the Dragon
Fall from Grace
Sable on Blonde
Rose Garden
Street Angel
Doing the Best that I Can
Listen to the Rain
Illume
All The Beautiful Worlds
China Doll
Julia
That's Alright
Beautiful Child
Beauty and the Beast
Sleeping Angel
Kind Of Woman
Bella Donna
Ghosts
Crystal
Twisted
Gold & Braid
Fireflies
Wild Heart
Rock A Little
Angel
City of Hope

Thats quite the list :laugh:

[SpyNote]

Well, her unheard masterpiece is Bella Donna 2, of course :woohoo:

01. Gold & Braid
02. Mistress of My Faith (I've always disliked the title The Dealer)
03. Starshine
04. If You Ever Did Believe
05. Julia
06. Baby Doll
07. Blue Lamp
08. If You Were My Love
09. Sleeping Angel
10. The Tower

[Villavic]

STORMS
STORMS
STORMS
Trouble In Shangri-La
STORMS
STORMS
STORMS

[Johnny Stew]

Mistress of My Faith (I've always disliked the title The Dealer)But, Daniel... she says "fate," not "faith." ;)
I agree though -- "Mistress Of My Fate" is a more provocative title than "The Dealer."

[mikeschmike]

Blue Water. The harmonies are gorgeous. Gorgeous enough in fact to make me forget the heinous piano playing. Oh Stevie, we love you and everything, but seriously...take a class.

[amber]

03. Starshine


^^^ I love Blue Water, too.


Spynote:
Your list is cool, but Starshine is exceptionally terrible. "well, you used to be silvah!" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[BlackWidow]

Blue Water. The harmonies are gorgeous. Gorgeous enough in fact to make me forget the heinous piano playing. Oh Stevie, we love you and everything, but seriously...take a class.
But that would take hard work and dedication..Yuck..:p
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[BlackWidow]

STORMS
STORMS
STORMS
Trouble In Shangri-La
STORMS
STORMS
STORMS
AND..Do not forget..STORMS!!!!!!
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[SpyNote]

But, Daniel... she says "fate," not "faith." ;)
I agree though -- "Mistress Of My Fate" is a more provocative title than "The Dealer."

That was quite Freudian, wasn't it! :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

That was quite Freudian, wasn't it! :laugh:
Prophetic actually...
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[foxyluva]

P.S. This topic reminds me of something on the 7 dunders board.

Possibly because I started the same topic there as well! :D

[Dr.Brown]

Think About It!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheBlueLamp]

I'd add Straight Back to the list. I'd also like to add a :eek: to Rose Garden. That's the ONLY Stevie song I actively hate.

[sparky]

I don't think Stevie has any forgotten masterpieces. I would agree that Storms and TISL are undiscovered by many and are epic. But in terms of demos, the ones I love all either have huge flaws re: lyrics or bridges (Something Exquisite and Space Needle being prime examples), or are simply not even close to being finished songs. She has recorded the prime stuff from the "vault". She better have, she has been mining it for 20 years.

[Phoenix]

City of Hope. My all-time favorite. It is beautifull, and heartbreaking, and it will never see the light of day.

[amber]

I don't think Stevie has any forgotten masterpieces. I would agree that Storms and TISL are undiscovered by many and are epic. But in terms of demos, the ones I love all either have huge flaws re: lyrics or bridges (Something Exquisite and Space Needle being prime examples), or are simply not even close to being finished songs. She has recorded the prime stuff from the "vault". She better have, she has been mining it for 20 years.

I thought we were thinking also of songs that were on albums, but didn't get airplay and hardly anyone heard them. A la Angel, or Beautiful Child. And if you say BC isn't a masterpiece, I'll have to KYA. That being the case, I think she has tons of unheard masterpieces. Album cut ones. Think of "Belladonna" and "Wild Heart" - title tracks even - and most of us think those songs are good - Did joe shmoe hear those songs? Probably not. Thus, undescovered masterpieces!
No one and their mom heard "Kind of Woman", or "Storms" but they are stunning and perfect nonetheless. And the list goes on.

City of Hope. My all-time favorite. It is beautifull, and heartbreaking, and it will never see the light of day.

No havee, please postee! :woohoo:

[TheBlueLamp]

No havee, please postee! :woohoo:

City of Hope:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D51C17D61A2CA7EA

[mandersv]

well my current fav "masterpeices..in no order are Love Is (demo version) Gold and Braid and My Heart... I LOVE that song... i guess it hits home big time...i wish'd to God she'da put it on TISL to me that song is just freakin outstanding!!!
mandy

[TheWILDheart]

Trouble in Shangri-La
That Made Me Stronger
Violet and Blue
Wild Heart
Nothing Ever Changes
Listen to the Rain
Think About It

[Sorceress]

I too love Kind of Woman and That's Alright.
Blue Lamp is one of my absolute favorites--I love to sing along at the top of my lungs-- but its lyrics are so out there that I don't think I'd call it a "masterpiece." The out-there lyrics are one of the reasons I love it so, however.
And, I thought I didn't really care for most of OSOTM, so it shocked the hell out of me when I really listened to Doing the Best that I Can and discovered it's a great song. I don't know about masterpiece, but people should definitely pay more attention to it.
Finally, I agree with Sparky about a good portion of the demos that Stevie hasn't yet officially recorded. There are reasons why she hasn't recorded them. However, I do agree that some of the demos for songs she HAS recorded are better than the originals, like No Light/Planets and Smile at You.

(Wow, I'm feeling the love for Stevie today more than usual, but you could never tell it from the above post! :laugh: It's okay not to love everything she's ever done...it's okay...)

[equeen102289]

First one that comes to mind is How Still My Love. It's not my favorite song...probably not even in my top ten, but there is something about it that screams Masterpiece to me, and yet it is widely unknown.

Next one is Bella Donna. I think she should have released this song as a single instead of After the Glitter Fades. The piano playing is brilliant and IMO her best song next to EO17.

Few others:
1. Sleeping Angel
2. Storms (Gotta give Lindsey credit too)
3. Sisters of the Moon (though it was released as a single it did not do well at all)

[TheWILDheart]

I think she should have released this song as a single instead of After the Glitter Fades.

Why did she even release After the Glitter Fades? I like it, but it's not great. I always felt Outside the Rain would've made a far better choice for a final single from Bella Donna.

[sparky]

Why did she even release After the Glitter Fades? I like it, but it's not great. I always felt Outside the Rain would've made a far better choice for a final single from Bella Donna.

I suspected this was released as a single with the half assed idea of some kind of country crossover. At the time, I remember it getting played a few times on country radio where I lived. However, I don't recall any ads in billboard or a real concrete effort to get country radio to play it. A bit of a drag, as the country market is something the record label people could have tried to pull into the Stevie fold years ago. I mean, if Bon Jovi can have a number one country hit in 2006, I am sure Stevie could have had a lot of success there a long time ago. Seriously doubt it will ever happen now.

[jannieC]

I suspected this was released as a single with the half assed idea of some kind of country crossover. At the time, I remember it getting played a few times on country radio where I lived. However, I don't recall any ads in billboard or a real concrete effort to get country radio to play it. A bit of a drag, as the country market is something the record label people could have tried to pull into the Stevie fold years ago. I mean, if Bon Jovi can have a number one country hit in 2006, I am sure Stevie could have had a lot of success there a long time ago. Seriously doubt it will ever happen now.
It's funny- but I wasn't thrilled with that song when it first came out, but it definitely grew on me over the years. My husband is not a huge Stevie fan (although you can be sure he knows how to act like one when when the moment is called for) but he really loves that song.

[David]

It's funny- but I wasn't thrilled with that song when it first came out, but it definitely grew on me over the years. My husband is not a huge Stevie fan (although you can be sure he knows how to act like one when when the moment is called for) but he really loves that song.
I like it, but I don't really think about it much. But it is sort of odd to me because remember those songwriting rules that Lindsey always used to refer to by pointing to Stevie as a negative example? Well, "After the Glitter Fades" actually obeys every single one of those rules. It's actually just about Stevie's most perfect classically constructed pop songs. . . which just goes to show that good form & audience impact don't necessarily correlate in direct ratio.

[DavidMn]

Kind Of Woman. Of course I'm biased because this is definitely my favorite Stevie solo song.

[SpyNote]

After The Glitter Fades performed respectably at radio and on the charts (#32), considering it was the fourth single release from Bella Donna. It crossed over to Pop, AC, and country radio formats.

[BlackWidow]

I don't like "Starshine," either. It doesn't make me shivah.

"Goodbye Baby" is quite underappreciated, but it does not quite deserve the title of "forgotten masterpiece" (or, for David, ~*~*forgotten mystical masterpiece*~*~) because it was performed on the Say You Will tour and featured in the Destiny Rules documentary. At the show I saw most people left before "Goodbye Baby" was over, however. Its sweet, hushed tones were missed by those who decided not to stick around for "Goodbye Baby" to close the show or album. What a shame.
Who is the HOTTIE in your sig pic??? *drools* LOL!!!
He should play Lindsey...:thumbsup: