Worst Stevie Tour

[nightbird89]

What do you think is the worst tour stevie ever did?
For me, it's Whole Lotta Trouble (Timespace.) She's just so klonopined out and so unemotional. Not to mention her horrendous wardrobe change. The bustlers and sholder pads, what was up with that? so un stevie. post your opinions here, and give an answer, not just a vote.

[foxyluva]

I don't really know what tour to vote for - they are all really good. I loved Stevie's voice on the Timespace tour, and the same with Street Angel - I will have a listen to my boots and think about it :o

[jannieC]

I was disappointed in TISL, but poor Stevie had just come back from several cancelled shows due to illness. So I'll cut her some slack. :p

[JazmenFlowers]

I hate to see a thread about the worst anything...

[David]

What do you think is the worst tour stevie ever did?
For me, it's Whole Lotta Trouble (Timespace.) She's just so klonopined out and so unemotional. Not to mention her horrendous wardrobe change. The bustlers and sholder pads, what was up with that? so un stevie. post your opinions here, and give an answer, not just a vote.I voted for TISL, even though I thought she was crappier in many ways on the Timespace tour. I agree with what you say about it. But I think in retrospect it had at least some things that appealed to me that the TISL tour didn't even have: legendary platform boots & "If Anyone Falls," whereas the TISL shows I saw (& walked out of--Irvine Meadows, Santa Barbara, Universal Amphitheatre) just held no appeal for me at all. In fact, that is the last year I saw Stevie solo. Just no appeal for me at all--that's just not the way I like my music.

But certainly I'd vote for Timespace 2nd in this poll.

[nightbird89]

I voted for TISL, even though I thought she was crappier in many ways on the Timespace tour. I agree with what you say about it. But I think in retrospect it had at least some things that appealed to me that the TISL tour didn't even have: legendary platform boots & "If Anyone Falls," whereas the TISL shows I saw (& walked out of--Irvine Meadows, Santa Barbara, Universal Amphitheatre) just held no appeal for me at all. In fact, that is the last year I saw Stevie solo. Just no appeal for me at all--that's just not the way I like my music.

But certainly I'd vote for Timespace 2nd in this poll.
i c what u mean. Not as much boots, and some of the shows lacked just the whole stevie feeling, the dreamy enchatedness. But a few of the shows i saw on that tour were fantastic. i 2 miss the boots, and not enough rhiannon sleeves either!:shrug:

[Angel69]

I hate to see a thread about the worst anything...

Hello:nod:



An out and proud CHIFFONCHIFFONANDMORECHIFFON HEAD

[Somajoseph]

I've been able to see all of Stevie's tours except the first, and I have to say the OSOTM tour was the worst. By the time I saw her at Shoreline near San Francisco, the set was cut, but she managed to keep the horrible Two Kinds of Love in it. It was just awful-I suppose I blame the klonopin. I read somewhere she didnt remember a whole solo tour. OSOTM was obviously it.

Joseph

[desertangel]

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could say TISL was her worst tour... I mean, yea... she had problems with bronchitis or whatever, but my gawd... she took the stage like, what, four days after we were attacked?! And she was in NYC when it happened, she SAW the smoke and rubble... most of us didn't! It was just too surreal... I saw her here one month to the day of the attacks. Whew... I dunno, man. I can't imagine how hard it was for her, really. Dang man. Do ya feel me or wha? :( She was already nervous with the new album and tour after 10 years... Oh well. :wavey:

Laura

[jannieC]

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could say TISL was her worst tour... I mean, yea... she had problems with bronchitis or whatever, but my gawd... she took the stage like, what, four days after we were attacked?! And she was in NYC when it happened, she SAW the smoke and rubble... most of us didn't! It was just too surreal... I saw her here one month to the day of the attacks. Whew... I dunno, man. I can't imagine how hard it was for her, really. Dang man. Do ya feel me or wha? :( She was already nervous with the new album and tour after 10 years... Oh well. :wavey:

Laura
I was just saying as far as performances went- I was most disappointed in her on this tour. My own excitement and expectations may have played a big part, but like I said- she was just coming off a major illness. She seemed extremely lethargic and uninterested. At the time I said that I felt she was NOT emotionally present, at all. :shrug: Didn't change my love, respect, and obssession for her any, though!!! :woohoo:

[desertangel]

I was just saying as far as performances went- I was most disappointed in her on this tour. My own excitement and expectations may have played a big part, but like I said- she was just coming off a major illness. She seemed extremely lethargic and uninterested. At the time I said that I felt she was NOT emotionally present, at all. :shrug: Didn't change my love, respect, and obssession for her any, though!!! :woohoo:

Oh I hear ya... the first time I saw her solo was Enchanted tour and I was waaay excited and had lots of expectations. All I had seen and heard of her solo work up until then was old footage from her wildest years. I had the same feeling coming away from that show, that she seemed lethargic, uninterested, not emotionally present, etc. In fact, I figured she would never come back to Portland again. I was thinking at the time she hated Portland. But, I came to realize over time, Stevie just doesn't rock it like she used to. And I agree, it doesn't change my love, respect, etc for her either. :xoxo:

Laura

[foxyluva]

HEY! who the hell is voting for OSOTM tour as the worst!!! :distress: :D

[DashingDan]

I saw a terrific, wide-awake, frisky, special-guest-sheryl-Crow, Bombay Saphires-in-the-set-list, excellent band, TISL show, so I can't imagine that being the worst tour.

I saw a pathetic, glassy-eyed, can't-step-over-a-mic-cable-without-a-roadie's-assistance, zonked-out, Michael Anthony-as-musical-director, Timespace show, so, of course, I think that one has to be the worst tour.

[BlackWidow]

Definitely OSOTM/STREET ANGEL....

[nightbird89]

HEY! who the hell is voting for OSOTM tour as the worst!!! :distress: :D
Alas, sum1 else doesn't think osotm is the worst! It totally beats timespace whole lotta trouble! tho her vocals have always been great,, im talking bout the performances.

[David]

Alas, sum1 else doesn't think osotm is the worst! It totally beats timespace whole lotta trouble!It's probably a tossup.
tho her vocals have always been great,,Well, if you believe that, I can assure you that any opinion I have about Stevie isn't going to jibe with your own.

[equeen102289]

Well from all the bootlegs I've listened to, I definitely have to go with the Timespace Tour. They're just so boring! She put no emotion into the songs whatsoever, and she barely said a word but Thank you every once in a while. OSOTM would be my second choice. I blame them both on Klonopin.

[petep9000]

OSOTM, for me, definately. It was the first time I had ever seen her in her Frankenbocks and I was frightened. I knew from the first verse of 'Outside The Rain' that we were in trouble that night, she seemed foggy and distant and was barely even trying. Blame it on the klonopin, I walked away from that show depressed at losing the Stevie that I loved.
One saving grace that night, her performances of both 'Alice' and 'Juliet' were ok. Since these songs didn't expend alot of effort in the studio either they translated well to the stage.

[JazmenFlowers]

Hello:nod:



An out and proud CHIFFONCHIFFONANDMORECHIFFON HEAD
eat me.

have I been discovered?


:D

[skcin]

Well from all the bootlegs I've listened to, I definitely have to go with the Timespace Tour. They're just so boring! She put no emotion into the songs whatsoever, and she barely said a word but Thank you every once in a while. OSOTM would be my second choice. I blame them both on Klonopin.


ITA with your post.

[David]

OSOTM, for me, definately. It was the first time I had ever seen her in her Frankenbocks and I was frightened. I knew from the first verse of 'Outside The Rain' that we were in trouble that night, she seemed foggy and distant and was barely even trying. Blame it on the klonopin, I walked away from that show depressed at losing the Stevie that I loved.You mean you weren't totally enthralled by the way her band danced the cha-cha during the electronified "Edge of Seventeen" intro?

[jannieC]

OSOTM, for me, definately. It was the first time I had ever seen her in her Frankenbocks and I was frightened.
I don't remember her wearing the Frankenbocks on this tour- did she wear them the whole time? Because I feel like I definitely would have noticed them. :confused:

[skcin]

I don't remember her wearing the Frankenbocks on this tour- did she wear them the whole time? Because I feel like I definitely would have noticed them. :confused:


I thought I read somewhere that she hurt her foot & had to wear a boot thing for at least part of TOSOTM Tour? David?

[JazmenFlowers]

I thought I read somewhere that she hurt her foot & had to wear a boot thing for at least part of TOSOTM Tour? David?
yep. I've got a pic at home from a rehearsal and you can see the cast.

[Angel69]

eat me.

have I been discovered?


:D

I was agreeing with you.

[JazmenFlowers]

I was agreeing with you.
:shocked: oh. I thought you were poking fun. :o

:xoxo:

[Angel69]

:shocked: oh. I thought you were poking fun. :o

:xoxo:

At you.........a fellow CHIFFONHEAD!!!!!!! I live for CHIFFONCHIFFONANDMORECHIFFON:thumbsup:

Dont tell anybody but i'll still eat ya:wavey:

[JazmenFlowers]

Dont tell anybody but i'll still eat ya:wavey:
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[nightbird89]

I don't remember her wearing the Frankenbocks on this tour- did she wear them the whole time? Because I feel like I definitely would have noticed them. :confused:
she wore the black platforms. check the whole lotta trouble vid, ul see. find it on throwndown.net vid player, under promo vids, even tho its the live version. she was so zonked out!

[David]

she wore the black platforms. check the whole lotta trouble vid, ul see. find it on throwndown.net vid player, under promo vids, even tho its the live version. she was so zonked out!
I think what happened was--& you guys can verify this by searching the BLA--that she busted her foot on something & so early on in the tour for a week or two had to wear those Frankenboks. But once her foot healed, she was back to her Stevie platforms, & stayed in them throughout the rest of the 1989 solo tour, the entire 1990 Fleetwood Mac tour, the entire 1991 solo tour, the entire 1994 solo tour, the entire 1997 Fleetwood Mac tour & the entire 1998 solo tour.

Then an unsettling thing happened: on her shows for the millennium in '99 & 2000, those Frankenboks started showing up again. That was the beginning of the end for some fans.

[SapphireSister]

Timespace tour simply for the whoroneous wardrobe choices and unflattering hair style (way to work the mulllet Stevie!). Case in point:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Lindsayinthis/SNicksRobeColors.jpg
Someone seriously should have called the fashion police on this woman! :shrug:. I would consider Stevie a fashion victim at this time as opposed to fashion icon.

TOSOTM tour had a stunning rendition of Rooms on Fire and it was the first time she ever performed it so I could never vote for that tour. Alice rocked as well although I'll admit it wasn't Stevie at her liveliest.

[nightbird89]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Lindsayinthis/SNicksRobeColors.jpg

i 2 hated that outfit

[JazmenFlowers]

Timespace tour simply for the whoroneous wardrobe choices and unflattering hair style. Case in point:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Lindsayinthis/SNicksRobeColors.jpg
Someone seriously should have called the fashion police on this woman! :shrug:. I would consider Stevie a fashion victim at this time as opposed to fashion icon.

TOSOTM tour had a stunning rendition of Rooms on Fire and it was the first time she ever performed it so I could never vote for that tour. Alice rocked as well although I'll admit it wasn't Stevie at her liveliest.
to me, it's not the outfit or the hair, etc., but the combination of all. on their own, they rock in their own way.

[Rickypt]

I've been able to see all of Stevie's tours except the first, and I have to say the OSOTM tour was the worst. By the time I saw her at Shoreline near San Francisco, the set was cut, but she managed to keep the horrible Two Kinds of Love in it. It was just awful-I suppose I blame the klonopin. I read somewhere she didnt remember a whole solo tour. OSOTM was obviously it.

Joseph

Yeah, I was at that show also and left quite disappointed. So much so that I didn't go to Timespace or Street Angel shows (I regret not going to SA).

I didn't know the OSOTM set was cut, but seems like they are all cut by the time they get to California. There was no POTU or B. Sapphire by the time I saw TISL.

[Rickypt]

Could the person who voted for White Winged Dove tour please stand up and explain??? :eek:

[jannieC]

Could the person who voted for White Winged Dove tour please stand up and explain??? :eek:
Ha ha- I was wondering the very same thing. :confused:

[nightbird89]

Ha ha- I was wondering the very same thing. :confused:
me 2:shrug:

[AliceLover]

Yeah, I was at that show also and left quite disappointed. So much so that I didn't go to Timespace or Street Angel shows (I regret not going to SA).

I didn't know the OSOTM set was cut, but seems like they are all cut by the time they get to California. There was no POTU or B. Sapphire by the time I saw TISL.

The Juliet and Talk to Me were gone by the time she got to the West Coast for OSOTM. Juliet lasted about half, TTM was gone early.

[JazmenFlowers]

Could the person who voted for White Winged Dove tour please stand up and explain??? :eek:
lmao. for real!

[nightbird89]

The Juliet and Talk to Me were gone by the time she got to the West Coast for OSOTM. Juliet lasted about half, TTM was gone early.
that sux, and she had such a short set list. maybe she knew that with the klonopin, she just couldn't captivate the audience like she used to. altho there were some good performances.

[BlackWidow]

:shrug: Could the person who voted for White Winged Dove tour please stand up and explain??? :eek:
"Lucy..YOU GOT SOME 'SPLAININ TO DO!"

[David]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time. You couldn't open a fanzine in 1991/1992 without reading fans' gushy tributes to these shows & how wonderful Stevie Nicks looked & sounded. So it's only in retrospect to look down on these tours? What? am I that influential? I just don't buy all this fickleness.

[jannieC]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time. You couldn't open a fanzine in 1991/1992 without reading fans' gushy tributes to these shows & how wonderful Stevie Nicks looked & sounded. So it's only in retrospect to look down on these tours? What? am I that influential? I just don't buy all this fickleness.
At the time, I was still kind of in denial. :shrug:

[nightbird89]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time. You couldn't open a fanzine in 1991/1992 without reading fans' gushy tributes to these shows & how wonderful Stevie Nicks looked & sounded. So it's only in retrospect to look down on these tours? What? am I that influential? I just don't buy all this fickleness.
I hink at that time, her looks were in style. I think for her performances, it's kinda weird that they would rave, tho:shrug:

[AliceLover]

that sux, and she had such a short set list. maybe she knew that with the klonopin, she just couldn't captivate the audience like she used to. altho there were some good performances.


It looks like a short list but in reality it really feels like a long show when I watch the bootlegs. Most songs are 6 mins +.

[Rickypt]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time.

Not this one, at least for OSOTM. I can still remember turning to the stranger next to me after it ended and expressing my disappointment.

Every song was indeed around 6 minutes or more, but the first 1 or 2 minutes is just instrumental waiting for Stevie to come spinning slowly from backstage.

[petep9000]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time. You couldn't open a fanzine in 1991/1992 without reading fans' gushy tributes to these shows & how wonderful Stevie Nicks looked & sounded. So it's only in retrospect to look down on these tours? What? am I that influential? I just don't buy all this fickleness.

Oh I definately agree. I remember reading a fanzine (can't remember the name or who put it together) and they were gushing over the 'Behind The Mask' shows and I was like "wait a minute. Did I not attend this same tour? Where was I when Stevie was unleashing her furious vocals and spinning like a dervish?"

[petep9000]

Not this one, at least for OSOTM. I can still remember turning to the stranger next to me after it ended and expressing my disappointment.

Every song was indeed around 6 minutes or more, but the first 1 or 2 minutes is just instrumental waiting for Stevie to come spinning slowly from backstage.

LOL I remember that! There was a costume change for every song, and what costumes! 12 different versions of the same padded shoulder bathrobe things with hats to match! This bathrobe look (shudder) was accentuated with the Frankenbocks at the Jones Beach shows I caught and combined with the lethargic material and performance led me believe that I had just witnessed a very very different Stevie indeed. I also expressed my disappointment to my friends after the show, I waited all summer for those shows and was really let down.

[jannieC]

LOL I remember that! There was a costume change for every song, and what costumes! 12 different versions of the same padded shoulder bathrobe things with hats to match! This bathrobe look (shudder) was accentuated with the Frankenbocks at the Jones Beach shows I caught and combined with the lethargic material and performance led me believe that I had just witnessed a very very different Stevie indeed. I also expressed my disappointment to my friends after the show, I waited all summer for those shows and was really let down.
I was at the same shows. I'm originallly from Long Island. :wavey:

As far as Stevie's outfits go, I was probably wearing something similar to each show. She was just a part of the times, that's all. ANd you know, I do remember being vaguely disappointed, since my first live experiences with STevie were during Rock A Little. But you (me) kept this whole denial thing going because well, it was Stevie, and she could do no wrong.

[David]

I was at the same shows. I'm originallly from Long Island. :wavey:If you're talking about the Mountain View show, me, too!
As far as Stevie's outfits go, I was probably wearing something similar to each show. She was just a part of the times, that's all. ANd you know, I do remember being vaguely disappointed, since my first live experiences with STevie were during Rock A Little. But you (me) kept this whole denial thing going because well, it was Stevie, and she could do no wrong.I agree that all fans are in that state of suspension of Stevie disbelief, that frame of mind where Stevie can do no wrong in your eyes. But we all go into that state at different times. Some people might have been there in 1989, whereas I would say I was there much earlier--back in 1980 or so. (I'm probably older than you are.)

So by the time 1989 rolled around, I was definitely already asking myself with a certain amount of doubt, "Do I really want to drive to the neighboring city to see this woman play?" My Stevie suspension of disbelief was essentially dissipated by then.

[Johnny Stew]

This cracks me up. The entire fan community raved about the Mirror & Timespace concerts at that time. You couldn't open a fanzine in 1991/1992 without reading fans' gushy tributes to these shows & how wonderful Stevie Nicks looked & sounded. So it's only in retrospect to look down on these tours? What? am I that influential? I just don't buy all this fickleness.I think a lot of fans were so scared for Stevie during the 'Rock A Little' period ("am I going to sit down to read the morning paper and find out that Stevie Nicks died of a drug overdose?"), that they were relieved to see what appeared to be a sober, more in control Stevie on those tours. And I think that attitude influenced the initial perception of those performances for many fans.

[David]

I think a lot of fans were so scared for Stevie during the 'Rock A Little' period ("am I going to sit down to read the morning paper and find out that Stevie Nicks died of a drug overdose?"), that they were relieved to see what appeared to be a sober, more in control Stevie on those tours. And I think that attitude influenced the initial perception of those performances for many fans.Well, once again it's that mysterious rashomon. I simply don't remember anybody worried about Stevie on the 1986 tour. Nor do I remember hearing or witnessing anybody hoping for a "sober, more in-control" Stevie.

My experience of those years is so vastly different from yours or other people's that I worry sometimes that I was inhabiting an alternative universe.

[jannieC]

Well, once again it's that mysterious rashomon. I simply don't remember anybody worried about Stevie on the 1986 tour. Nor do I remember hearing or witnessing anybody hoping for a "sober, more in-control" Stevie.

My experience of those years is so vastly different from yours or other people's that I worry sometimes that I was inhabiting an alternative universe.
No, I kind of feel the same way. If anything, I remember knowing exactly why Stevie was spending so much time during RAL shows, and thinking it was <i>funny</i>. I was probably dying to do the same thing, but wouldn't leave the show to do it. I don't think I *ever* worried about Stevie until TISL. That's weird, but I always felt that no matter what, she would totally overcome anything...weight gain, drug use, whatever. :shrug:

(David, I've just turned 38-I originally typed that as 28, *SOB*- how old are you?)

[DavidMn]

I fortunately I missed TISL due to Stevie's various ailments. BUt from what I've heard, it was quite disjointed due to all the cancellations and postponements. But the 2 tours, I've had a chance to participate in, Enchanted, and the Gold Dust Tour were both excellent I thought.

[nightbird89]

I fortunately I missed TISL due to Stevie's various ailments. BUt from what I've heard, it was quite disjointed due to all the cancellations and postponements. But the 2 tours, I've had a chance to participate in, Enchanted, and the Gold Dust Tour were both excellent I thought.
yeah, gold dust was great, but Enchanted, her range was better. bout time she has those knodules removed. but still, her voice was excellent.

[nightbird89]

Here's for every1 who thinks her vocals were lousy on osotm tour.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E076650D79001B04
it's from houston tx, the summit, 10.8.89

[amber]

Here's for every1 who thinks her vocals were lousy on osotm tour.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E076650D79001B04
it's from houston tx, the summit, 10.8.89

Heeeey, that is a good vocal!!! Thanks. :thumbsup:

[nightbird89]

Amber, I luv ur sig! :blob2: :blob1:

[amber]

Amber, I luv ur sig! :blob2: :blob1:

Oh, thanks. Yeah, that's a cute pic of her. I love Angel anyway. :)

[Rickypt]

Okay, I can only guess that the person who voted for "White Winged Dove" tour did so because it's the only tour without "Stand Back", which makes me think it is LiquidBlue.

[nightbird89]

Okay, I can only guess that the person who voted for "White Winged Dove" tour did so because it's the only tour without "Stand Back", which makes me think it is LiquidBlue.
lol. but there was edge! and hsml.