Stevie Movie in Pre-Production/Lohan to Play Stevie

[SapphireSister]

A friend who works in the movie business here in L.A. just called to tell me there is definitely a movie in the works based on Stevie's life and they are going after Lindsay Lohan for the lead. I asked if Stevie was involved but he didn't know. I would love to know more!

[goldustsongbird]

"Awww, shit, son"

[Red]

Umm, what? Seriously? *heavy sigh*
First sign of the apocolypse.

[desertangel]

First sign of the apocolypse.

Agreed..

Huh...whaaaa??? Didn't I hear this rumour somewhere before? Must be an indie project. Hohan? gawd. ew. Sheesh... whatever. :distress:

Want me to share how I really feel? :laugh:


Laura

[Sahara]

Ugh, I just vomited on the spot. Please. :mad: Don't even joke...!

Urrghhhh ..... *runs off to unleash Lohan-related rage on pillow*

[gypsysoul]

Sahara, did you get a chance to read the PM I sent you?

[Sahara]

Sahara, did you get a chance to read the PM I sent you?

I did! Woops! Sorry -- I've been so busy this week I forgot all about it, I must confess. Silly me :( Will reply now! :)

[Sahara]

.....

I presume this is a joke, right??

:shrug: If it's not I think I'll just go and throw myself in the quay right now.

[BlackWidow]

Not possible!
She will be tared and feathered before she shoots the first frame!

[equeen102289]

This can't be true!
I mean, Stevie movie in the works....GREAT!
Lindsay Lohan playing her...Did they not hear how she butchered Edge of Seventeen?!?!?!? Don't get me wrong, she could be an EXCELLENT lip syncher, but just the thought of someone like her playing the one and only Stevie Nicks sickens me. Glad it's just a rumor for now.

[THINKABOUTIT]

:lol: :mad: Lindsay lohan????? :lol: :lol: WTF???? :eek: Why does Hollyweird always go after her for these roles??! She's not a singer OR an actress!!! Like MOST of the new comers.

Yes, Desert Angel, this is the first sign of the Apocolypse!!!!!!!!!!!! Why, why, why??? Sheryl Crow should do it!! Call me insane, but not only is she a singer, she does resemble Stevie at a younger age. :nod: She also looks much younger than she is, so she could play the early years....:nod:

Anyone else have a suggestion? They are VERY hard shoes to fill. You have to have someone talented enough in the acting and singing dept, who not only KNOWS her life as we the fans do, but is also attractive enough :lol: It's amazing how Hollywood gets Pink, a rocker, to play Janis in the currently in production film "Pearl", and for Stevie, the Queen of R&R, we get Lohan??? I swear I'd be happier with a guy in drag playing her :lol:

[ejof17]

There are many other stars that would have been better choices...

Kate Hudson for starters.

This sounds like it will go straight to video and it will really suck if they can't get rights to any of the music.

[gldstwmn]

If this is done right then I don't see what the big deal is. Biopics are all the rage lately with Johnny Cash and Ray Charles movies being standouts. Tina Turner's movie was pretty good too. For all we know, Stevie could be involved in this project. :shrug: I guess my big question is who would play Lindsey? :]

[SweetGirl24]

I am banking on this being a rumour! A Stevie movie? Great.....but Lohan? Not great. I don't hate the girl, I just can't see her fitting the mold. I think I would be better suited for it.....and Im a foot taller than Stevie :laugh:

[nightbird89]

Umm, what? Seriously? *heavy sigh*
First sign of the apocolypse.

lol. But cumon lindsay lohan as stevie!!!!!!:mad: :mad: ohhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooo:eek:

[SapphireSister]

.....

I presume this is a joke, right??

:shrug: If it's not I think I'll just go and throw myself in the quay right now.
It's not a joke. The person who told me ran into an actress who bares a striking resemblance to Stevie. The woman told my friend she wanted to audition for the part in a new movie about Stevie but they are waiting to hear if Lohan will take it. The offer has been put on the table. Whether or not the movie will come to fruition is still TBD but it has definitely in the works if an actress was trying to get an audition.

[SapphireSister]

I am banking on this being a rumour! A Stevie movie? Great.....but Lohan? Not great. I don't hate the girl, I just can't see her fitting the mold. I think I would be better suited for it.....and Im a foot taller than Stevie :laugh:
The movie is not a rumor. All I know is that they want Lohan for the part. No word on whether or not she's accepted so let's all hope she passes!

[carrie721]

I swear I'd be happier with a guy in drag playing her :lol:

in that case, i'd like to nominate jazzy! :lol:

[Oona]

mmm, I thought I felt a great disturbance in the force.....

[ELIUD]

Well, I don't believe any of it.

[catinthedark]

good god.

a movie based on her life? straight to dvd, i predict. she is a legend in our eyes... but honestly, she's no johnny cash or ray charles. :sorry:

[Livia]

I'm having a hard time imagining the gallons of concealer and foundation they would need to cover all of Hohan's freckles. :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

A friend who works in the movie business here in L.A. just called to tell me there is definitely a movie in the works based on Stevie's life and they are going after Lindsay Lohan for the lead. I asked if Stevie was involved but he didn't know. I would love to know more!
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL!!!!! NO WAY!!!!
She should be SHOT for even attempting to pull off Edge Of Seventeen!
HOW EMBARRESING FOR HER!

[BlackWidow]

good god.

a movie based on her life? straight to dvd, i predict. she is a legend in our eyes... but honestly, she's no johnny cash or ray charles. :sorry:
I disagree!
Stevie is a major LEGEND!
She has made a significant difference to this generation.

[David]

good god.

a movie based on her life? straight to dvd, i predict. she is a legend in our eyes... but honestly, she's no johnny cash or ray charles. :sorry:You're right. Plus, it will be poorly done--it won't have anything like the cachet or prestige of either "Ray" or "Walk the Line" ... or even "The Buddy Holly Story" with Gary Busey or "Coal Miner's Daughter" with Sissy Spacek.

It will be total straight-to-DVD crap, but man it's gonna be cool to watch!! I don't care whether they cast Phyllis Diller, personally--just make the damn thing so we can watch it on DVD!! :thumbsup:

[BlackWidow]

You're right. Plus, it will be poorly done--it won't have anything like the cachet or prestige of either "Ray" or "Walk the Line" ... or even "The Buddy Holly Story" with Gary Busey or "Coal Miner's Daughter" with Sissy Spacek.

It will be total straight-to-DVD crap, but man it's gonna be cool to watch!! I don't care whether they cast Phyllis Diller, personally--just make the damn thing so we can watch it on DVD!! :thumbsup:
OR...
What if it were done in the right "cachet?":thumbsup:

[johndoe]

Ya, thats what I'm thinking. Straight to DVD. Johnny Cash was a drug addict with a seriously interesting life and a tension filled relationship with his wife that he really could only get an intimate moment with in front of an audience. Ray Charles came from a poor family and rose through to become a super star.Stevie slept with like, everyone in the Eagles, and wrote a few hit songs.

Not to diminish her, because I am a fan, but shes not exactly a mega star like the others.

[BlackWidow]

Ya, thats what I'm thinking. Straight to DVD. Johnny Cash was a drug addict with a seriously interesting life and a tension filled relationship with his wife that he really could only get an intimate moment with in front of an audience. Ray Charles came from a poor family and rose through to become a super star.Stevie slept with like, everyone in the Eagles, and wrote a few hit songs.

Not to diminish her, because I am a fan, but shes not exactly a mega star like the others.
I think Stevie's life is/was quite compelling!

[JazmenFlowers]

in that case, i'd like to nominate jazzy! :lol:
I like that idea. :thumbsup:

I have always thought Heather Locklear would be a great possibility to play Stevie. should a movie be made about Stevie...the actress will have to lipsynch, imo, so finding a singer isn't an issue.

[sandralgill]

I seriously hope his is jus a sick rumour. Really lohan?????? i think i will just throw up:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Serrart]

The movie is not a rumor. All I know is that they want Lohan for the part. No word on whether or not she's accepted so let's all hope she passes!

It doesn't mean much really, they (whoever they are, I suspect CAA, her agents, who are specialist in this kind of strategies) probably are just preparing a package to present to some studio, and if you have some yes for the cast is definitely better, but then everything can change. Usually this is done with just the first draft of the script or even only the idea. Studios tend not to take all the pieces as they are. I count on that. Moreover, with bios of still living people, studios prefer to have the real star involved (from script/cast approval, script co-authoring, to executive producer task, it depends) to avoid a mediatic war. And I'm sure Stevie will have a lot to say. :D

Romy

[irishgrl]

I fail to see what all the angst is about re: Lindsay Lohan!! shes not THAT bad is she? :confused:

I mean, it hurt my eyes to look at Bette Midler during the Rose, but she did a stellar performance so :shrug:

[equeen102289]

Lindsay Lohan!! shes not THAT bad is she?
No, I don't think she's that bad of an actress at all. In fact I like most of her movies. But, I do not think she is right for playing the role of Stevie Nicks. I see no resemblance at all, and if she were to actually sing... well we've already heard her and she sounds nothing like Stevie... And I also think she's just too young to play the part.

[BlackWidow]

I fail to see what all the angst is about re: Lindsay Lohan!! shes not THAT bad is she? :confused:

I mean, it hurt my eyes to look at Bette Midler during the Rose, but she did a stellar performance so :shrug:
Well..Bette Midler was an accomplished and respected Grammy Award winning recording artist when she landed THE ROSE. She was also nominated for The Oscar & WON the Golden Globe. I really DOUBT Lindsey Lohan is on the same playing field...:laugh: :laugh:

[irishgrl]

Well..Bette Midler was an accomplished and respected Grammy Award winning recording artist when she landed THE ROSE. She was also nominated for The Oscar & WON the Golden Globe. I really DOUBT Lindsey Lohan is on the same playing field...:laugh: :laugh:
Granted. but I think Lindsay Lohan is pretty enough and if the musical parts are dubbed anyway, what difference does it make?

Bette hadnt acted in anything prior to the Rose if Im not mistaken? :shrug:

[Standback383]

Oh good lord, if they're going to do something like this, why the hell can't they get someone who can act.....and sing???? :confused:

[Josh2003]

My confusion isn't over why they would pick Lohan, but why they would make a movie based on Stevie's life. It is foolish to believe that people would be interested in this like they would other rock biopicks.

It's all a bunch of baloney.

[desertangel]

I would rather see someone who looks more like Stevie than LL and is good at impersonation, gestures, inflections, vocal tone, etc. - all the things that make her who she is. I want the whole package! When I watched the movie "Jimi" I could hardly concentrate on the content because the actor didn't look, talk or act like him. Heck, just get Stevie to play Stevie. Anywho, I dunno why some studio is interested in this project either. Seems lately all the biopics about musical entertainers are of ones who are dead. If the target audience is Stevie's core fan base, then fine. I'm sure we'd all go see it, if only to pick apart fact from embellishment and everything else that "Stevie would never do." :laugh: Hey, maybe this is a precursor to The Book! Maybe the movie will have some juicy tidbits about what REALLY happened between Stevie and Don! :thumbsup:

Laura

[johndoe]

My confusion isn't over why they would pick Lohan, but why they would make a movie based on Stevie's life. It is foolish to believe that people would be interested in this like they would other rock biopicks.

It's all a bunch of baloney.

Exactly. I don't think you'll find many people who wouldn't be interested in a forum devoted to her, because we all know the ins and outs of her life, but if you went on a forum, for something that isn't Fleetwood Mac related and were like "OMG STEVIE NICKS BIOPIC!" Odds are they'd have little interest.

[sodascouts]

My confusion isn't over why they would pick Lohan, but why they would make a movie based on Stevie's life. It is foolish to believe that people would be interested in this like they would other rock biopicks.

It's all a bunch of baloney.


If they play up the soap opera angle, people would eat it up. Attractive rock stars sleeping around on each other is always good entertainment.

[tynan88]

"OMG STEVIE NICKS BIOPIC!"

Isn't he the guy that married that Lyndsay chick from Fleetwood Mac? :lol:

[SortaSavageLike]

If they ever make a Hohan biopic, they should have Big Mouth Billy Bass lipsyncing to all her songs. Or at least Billy coulda gasped out a more intense version of Edge of Seventeen. :rolleyes:

[Angel69]

good god.

a movie based on her life? straight to dvd, i predict. she is a legend in our eyes... but honestly, she's no johnny cash or ray charles. :sorry:

I have to disagree here. Stevie is legendary to many people. She has led a wild and colorful life. Experienced great highs and lows. I love Johnny but feel Stevie's movie would have greater appeal, given they get the right actress for the role. I don't like or dislike Lindsey Lohan and have never seen her in a movie so I cant say whether she is a good choice. I saw Jennifer Aniston in "Rock Star" yesterday and she did look pretty good in the hippie garb and hair, she's also not a bad actress. Drew Barrymore may be able to pull it off as well as Kate Hudson. That girl from Wings bears a resemblance to Stevie. You may think Im crazy but I think Heather Locklear could also pull this off.

[Angel69]

Ya, thats what I'm thinking. Straight to DVD. Johnny Cash was a drug addict with a seriously interesting life and a tension filled relationship with his wife that he really could only get an intimate moment with in front of an audience. Ray Charles came from a poor family and rose through to become a super star.Stevie slept with like, everyone in the Eagles, and wrote a few hit songs.

Not to diminish her, because I am a fan, but shes not exactly a mega star like the others.

Stevie is every inch the mega star that Johnny Cash is and has led a very interesting life. Just for example, housewives across the country like many of her tunes, find her interesting and watched her come out of the throes of drug addictions. These same women could have given a flying leap for Johnny and probably would not know any of his tunes. She's also had a tension filled relationship with Lindsey which just very recently healed itself to a degree.

And to say Stevie slept with the eagles and wrote a few hit songs definatey does diminish her contribution to the arts. She is beloved by many woman singers, has certainly defined a "look", and continues to influence many musical artists.

[TpaDavid]

Bette hadnt acted in anything prior to the Rose if Im not mistaken? :shrug:

Bette performed in Fiddler on the Roof on Broadway for several years. This was before she recorded any music ....love the Bette :)

[GypsySongbird]

i posted about this on seven wonders but i'll post it again here,
if this does happen i'd be kind of worried about how they'd portray the rest of the band, particularly christine, especially if they just use her as stevies backup/sidekick, which anyone who knows anyhting about fleetwood mac knows she isnt!
why can't they just do a fleetwood mac movie? their lives are all just as interesting

[DrummerDeanna]

Puleeeeze!!! This is so not going to happen. I can feel it in ma bones. I mean there's been a Janis Joplin film in development for almost 12 years now..and nothing.

And Janis has more on Stevie in terms of a movie that would draw people. We all love her - but as Nancy said, unless they really play up the soap opera - there won't be much interest IMO.

[gypsysoul]

Firstly, I think a film about the Buckinghamnicks love affair (with a good script) would make an excellent story a la Walk the Line and set in the context of Fleetwood Mac, especially the Rumours era. This way the rest of the band would not be diminished but equally would not be the focus.

The couple's songs about each other would provide a fantastic, dramatic musical backdrop.

The whole 'will they/won't they' could easily keep a non Fleetwood Mac audience enthralled just as Walk the line did for people (like me) who knew nothing of that relationship.

I don't think Stevie alone is a good enough subject: she did all the drugs and sleeping around but she neither died young nor came through to live a happy life as most people would want it to end ie with love/marriage/children.

Unless Stevie's life is put in the context of another person whom the audience can also care about it will have no real substance or emotional pull for them. Single rock star leads a life of drugs and short affairs - so what?

Therefore LB would have to be an integral part, he is the only enduring love she has had and therefore the only one people would actually care about.
The likes of Don Henley would simply be cameos that music fans would recognize but would mean little to most people (the Eagles were big, he personally was not.)

Secondly, cast: i would choose Scarlett Johansson as Stevie and get someone to do the singing. Scarlett is an excellent actress, young enough to pull off innocent BN Stevie and later more worldly Stevie.
As for LB, my first choice woul dbe Billy Crudup but if we're talking young Lindsey then possibly British actor Rufus Sewell.

[BlackWidow]

i posted about this on seven wonders but i'll post it again here,
if this does happen i'd be kind of worried about how they'd portray the rest of the band, particularly christine, especially if they just use her as stevies backup/sidekick, which anyone who knows anyhting about fleetwood mac knows she isnt!
why can't they just do a fleetwood mac movie? their lives are all just as interesting
Wasn't she basically Stevie's back-up singer...:shrug: :D

[BlackWidow]

I love Stevie to death but she is no way near as iconic or as culturally important as Johnny Cash. There may be many people who aren't familiar with Cash's music but they've sure as hell heard of him. Whereas Stevie is often nothing more than a footnote outside the States. There's no way Stevie's picture would be on the cover of Time when she dies. I adore her, but Cash is up there with Elvis practically. They don't compare really.
Oh PLEASE!
If anything happened to Stevie..she would be on every cover..including ROLLING STONE! Get off the Johnny Cash deal already!

[BlackWidow]

Firstly, I think a film about the Buckinghamnicks love affair (with a good script) would make an excellent story a la Walk the Line and set in the context of Fleetwood Mac, especially the Rumours era. This way the rest of the band would not be diminished but equally would not be the focus.

The couple's songs about each other would provide a fantastic, dramatic musical backdrop.

The whole 'will they/won't they' could easily keep a non Fleetwood Mac audience enthralled just as Walk the line did for people (like me) who knew nothing of that relationship.

I don't think Stevie alone is a good enough subject: she did all the drugs and sleeping around but she neither died young nor came through to live a happy life as most people would want it to end ie with love/marriage/children.

Unless Stevie's life is put in the context of another person whom the audience can also care about it will have no real substance or emotional pull for them. Single rock star leads a life of drugs and short affairs - so what?

Therefore LB would have to be an integral part, he is the only enduring love she has had and therefore the only one people would actually care about.
The likes of Don Henley would simply be cameos that music fans would recognize but would mean little to most people (the Eagles were big, he personally was not.)

Secondly, cast: i would choose Scarlett Johansson as Stevie and get someone to do the singing. Scarlett is an excellent actress, young enough to pull off innocent BN Stevie and later more worldly Stevie.
As for LB, my first choice woul dbe Billy Crudup but if we're talking young Lindsey then possibly British actor Rufus Sewell.
OMG!
You are right. scarlett could do it! GOOD ONE!

[BlackWidow]

Bette performed in Fiddler on the Roof on Broadway for several years. This was before she recorded any music ....love the Bette :)
GOOD POINT! I think its called "training!":thumbsup: :cool: :D

[johndoe]

Oh PLEASE!
If anything happened to Stevie..she would be on every cover..including ROLLING STONE! Get off the Johnny Cash deal already!

What world are you living in? She'd get an article, a mention, but not covers. She MIGHT get Rolling Stone if they had nothing else to go on. But I've noticed this problem with fans for almost every band ever, fans forget that just because they like something doesn't mean the world at large does.

Take a step outside of the Fleetwood Mac realm, and you'll realize that shes not even in the same level as Johnny Cash.

[BlackWidow]

What world are you living in? She'd get an article, a mention, but not covers. She MIGHT get Rolling Stone if they had nothing else to go on. But I've noticed this problem with fans for almost every band ever, fans forget that just because they like something doesn't mean the world at large does.

Take a step outside of the Fleetwood Mac realm, and you'll realize that shes not even in the same level as Johnny Cash.
You are so funny...
I actually respect the work of Johnny Cash. His work does not speak to me though. Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man. Was no big deal. And yet in the right hands that role lead another no talent like Reese Witherspoon to an Oscar for Best Actress. See how mediocrity is valued and rewarded? I think Nicks life story is much more compelling!

[johndoe]

Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.

[ELIUD]

I totally agree 100% with gypsysoul on all accounts. The rocky relationship between Stevie and Lindsey throughout the years is enough to make a great movie. Mick would be involved alot since he and Stevie had their fling. Chris and John would be there of course - but too bad - they're boring and their on-camera time would be limited to group/concert scenes and background shots. Sorry.

The film (like the earth) would center around the drama of Stevie's loves, her abortion(s), her rehab, her WEIGHTGAIN, her tantrums, her depression....oh there's so much you wouldn't even need her to sing! I kid - the musical opportunities are endless. Some of the "standards" would be just BARELY sampled throughout the movie and the lesser known yet essential songs would finally be broken out. Lindsey and Stevie would have to have at least one smack down physical fight. They could show the other band members pulling them off each other, lots of kicking and screaming and throwing. And of course lots of drug use, lots of excessiveness and the infamous piles of coke.

It would really have to be a love story of two high school sweethearts with a dream and the nightmare it all became before they learned to do things right - like without killing each other. Everything would start with Stevie and Lindsey in high school and end with the reunion at the Clinton Inaugural Gala. Then they do a quick jump to the taping of the Dance so you get to see Stevie skinny again at the end!

The people who did "What's Love Got to Do With It?" should do it all. They paid great respect to Tina, who collaborated with them. But Stevie would have to really drop her guard to make this movie the spectacle that it could be and the great success!

Who gives a shit how she compares to Johnny Cash? He's no litmus test for interesting life stories.

[Serrart]

Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.

You got to think to international not english spoken market, where very few people knew who Johnny Cash was. The movie though went pretty well even in those countries because the story had the elements that sell, two young actors who are very respected, and a pretty solid director. Stevie's way more known than Johnny Cash around the world, at least as an icon, and her story has even more elements that sell, like the fact that she's still alive. But they need a very good director (possibly a great one) and at least two very skilled actresses, for the different ages to keep the movie together. From what I've seen Lindsay Lohan hasn't enough talent to approach this part but she has at least two very awaited movies coming out, Altman's A Prairie home companion and Bobby (possibly also the film about Mark Chapman could be a good vehicle). If she manages to get strong reviews (at Berlin Film Festival all the cast was generally praised, but the most mentioned had been Keillor, Streep and Harrelson) she could be a contender for the part. I'd go for Kate Winslet instead.

BY the way, IMO a movie about Fleetwood Mac isn't possible, the major issue would be the songs' rights cost, that would be astronomic. On a bio with Stevie, involving her in the project, they'll be able to manage the costs.
To cope with one artist is way easier than involving 5,6,7,8...

Romy

[ELIUD]

I love Stevie to death but she is no way near as iconic or as culturally important as Johnny Cash. There may be many people who aren't familiar with Cash's music but they've sure as hell heard of him. Whereas Stevie is often nothing more than a footnote outside the States. There's no way Stevie's picture would be on the cover of Time when she dies. I adore her, but Cash is up there with Elvis practically. They don't compare really.
The legendary life of Johnny Cash was not a motivator in my renting the DVD "Ring of Fire". I did so because I heard Reese Witherspoon gave another stellar performance and that she would be competing with Felicity Huffman for the Oscar. I bet that not everybody who went to the theatre to see it was a passionate devoted fan of the man in black.

People go to movies for lots of reasons but mostly because of the publicity and the marketing - and I do mean MOSTLY. There's a lot of material to work with regarding Stevie and Fleetwood Mac that would provide a depiction of really hedonistic people's lives being built up and torn down. And lets face it - we're talking about an R-rated movie here, so some people would come just to see the tits of the actress playing Stevie. That's what sells and appeals to the masses. I believe it could be REALLY BIG so let's leave Johnny outta the equasion here from now on. It's silly.

[ELIUD]

Sometimes it's like banging your head against a brick wall isn't it?

I definitely think a movie about Stevie would have limited appeal but if she got behind it the way Tina Turner did with hers, and had a big star in the main role, it could be a minor hit.
Maybe in your movie the ghosts of Johnny Cash, Janis Joplin and Elvis Presley could help Stevie along on her road to fame. God forbid they should make a movie about anybody less famous than Johnny.

[ELIUD]

...I was just pointing out that more people are aware of who he is. Most people in the UK, for instance, would not know who Stevie is.
Yes I got that. And I'm telling you it's the marketing not how well-known your subject is.

[val721]

well johnny cash is way more of a legend but i kind of think stevie is a little more heard of... just cause she is still doing stuff.... but i dont know maybe im just unaware... (im not being sarcastic)

either way i think a movie on stevie would be cool in a sense but at the same time if its not done well then it'll just kind of be a big mistake and lets just say not benefit her

[johndoe]

Sometimes it's like banging your head against a brick wall isn't it?

Tell me about it...


Yes I got that. And I'm telling you it's the marketing not how well-known your subject is.

They marketed Beta-Max pretty heavily, didn't they?

[ELIUD]

They marketed Beta-Max pretty heavily, didn't they?
That's a weak argument and an ill-conceived comparison. I bet if Johnny were alive he'd go see a movie about Stevie even if he had to fight the throngs of rabid Johnny Cash fans protesting the necessity of such a film.

"NO! SHE'S NOT AS FAMOUS AS JOHNNY!!!"
"DON'T GO IN THERE!!! PEOPLE IN LONDON DON'T KNOW WHO SHE IS!!!" "WHAAAAA!!"

[David]

The legendary life of Johnny Cash was not a motivator in my renting the DVD "Ring of Fire".I think you & Shar are talking about different things. Sharon said that Cash is the bigger cultural icon & has by far the bigger influence in the music world, which I think Stevie herself would be the first to admit is totally true.

but I think what you're saying--that it isn't necessarily that edge on the cultural landscape that brought that Cash movie its huge audience--is valid, & I think Sharon would agree with that too. The reasons that movies catch the public's attention are vast & varied.
People go to movies for lots of reasons but mostly because of the publicity and the marketing - and I do mean MOSTLY. There's a lot of material to work with regarding Stevie and Fleetwood Mac that would provide a depiction of really hedonistic people's lives being built up and torn down.This is what's going to be fun for me. This movie will be another in a long line of hundreds of biopic movies about stars & starfucking, from Carroll Baker in "The Jean Harlow Story" to Faye Dunaway in "Mommie Dearest" to that one about Sid Vicious & his girlfriend to Diana Ross in "Lady Sings the Blues" to ... my gosh ... every single VH1 Behind The Music ever produced & broadcast. Of course that stuff is popular. People love it. People lap it up. A tabloid treatment of Stevie Nicks would get lapped up, too (although I don't think we're talking about the level of "Ray" or "Walk the Line" or "Coal Miner's Daughter" here, obviously).

But I wonder what Stevie's fans would think of it all, when it all comes down to it: such a movie is unlikely to delve deeply into Stevie's artistry, & the whole thing will probably feel like a 90-minute Behind The Music episode. Now I'm okay with that--in fact, I think that's exciting just to see all the little factoids that are implanted in my consciousness for the last thirty years acted out onscreen. But will Stevie's real fans like that ultimately? Or will they feel she has been cheapened? Any time you treat a figure like that sensationalistically--arousing superficial emotional responses out of melodramatic means--you cheapen him or her.

I mean, many of Stevie's fans have said over the years that they won't read Mick's book because they find it too tawdry & sensationalistic, or they won't read a biography of Stevie that is unauthorized, or even that of all the books that anyone could potentially write about Stevie in whatever style & with whatever means at hand, they would prefer to read Stevie's own "autobiography." Now, maybe that's all talk & bluster--there's certainly a lot of self-righteous priggishness & prudery in the fan community--but maybe it isn't. Just what do Stevie fans want to see onscreen? Dirt? or artistic treatment of Stevie's lyrics in an attempt to understand the "real artist"?

[goldustsongbird]

You are so funny...
I actually respect the work of Johnny Cash. His work does not speak to me though. Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man. Was no big deal. And yet in the right hands that role lead another no talent like Reese Witherspoon to an Oscar for Best Actress. See how mediocrity is valued and rewarded? I think Nicks life story is much more compelling!

Reese, no talent? Really? Why do you say that? (I'm really asking)
She's one of the few current actresses I actually like.

[BlackWidow]

Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.
YOU are the one who has turned this into a pissing contest not I.
You are only stating YOUR opinion and we do not have to agree with YOU.
I thought this was The Ledge...not Johnny Cash Central....:laugh:
I love your passion for your subject. I share the same for my heroes and will not be convinced otherwise. Some people could not give 2 shits about Johnny Cash. I'm glad YOU do.

[BlackWidow]

Maybe in your movie the ghosts of Johnny Cash, Janis Joplin and Elvis Presley could help Stevie along on her road to fame. God forbid they should make a movie about anybody less famous than Johnny.
Is there ANYONE more famous than Johnny Cash?:laugh:

[David]

Reese, no talent? Really? Why do you say that? (I'm really asking)
She's one of the few current actresses I actually like.I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.

[Johnny Stew]

I never really get into biopics, whether I'm a fan of the subject or not. Something just always seems "off" to me about condensing someone's life into a two-hour highlights reel. I won't lie and say I'd never watch a movie about Stevie's life, but I honestly couldn't care less if one is ever made.

For some strange reason though, I liked 'Coal Miner's Daughter' when I was a kid. Go figure.

[goldustsongbird]

I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.

Don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel!

I haven't seen Vanity Fair, so I can't comment on it (or her French pronounciation), nor have I seen the other movie you're talking about. It doesn't even sound that familiar to me. But I'd say, however terrible she might've been in those other films, and even in Legally Blonde - now THERE is a lightweight of a movie, but I think she was good in WTL. I think maybe that role challenged her a bit more, with the singing, and fitting into the June Carter mold. *shrug*

Aside from that, she comes across as being genuine and levelheaded, as opposed to that ditzy girlie BS that Hollywood chicks are so wont to pull these days. Mind you, she is older, but y'know.

[ELIUD]

I think you & Shar are talking about different things. Sharon said that Cash is the bigger cultural icon & has by far the bigger influence in the music world, which I think Stevie herself would be the first to admit is totally true.

but I think what you're saying--that it isn't necessarily that edge on the cultural landscape that brought that Cash movie its huge audience--is valid, & I think Sharon would agree with that too. The reasons that movies catch the public's attention are vast & varied.

All I was saying was that a person doesn't have to be as famous as Johnny Cash to validate making a movie about them and with the right script and marketing/ad campaign, a movie about Stevie could be huge.

And I would WHOLEY recommend "Freeway" and "Election" to see the true talent of Reese Witherspoon. Both performances were outstanding.

[Serrart]

I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.

You've seen the wrong movie David, to treat Thackeray as Mira Nair did should be a crime. She's a great director, but the project was clearly on assignment, and Witherspoon couldn't do much there. As Eliud said, you should try Election, or even Pleasantville, SFW, Cruel Intentions. She's extremely instinctive, surprising, intense and very generous as an actress, able to work with the smallest things and gestures.

Romy

[catinthedark]

Stevie is legendary to many people. She has led a wild and colorful life. Experienced great highs and lows.

yes... but so have many other rock stars. there are rock stars, and then there are the beatles. tina turner. johnny cash. they are in a different realm.

i think to have mass appeal, there needs to be something more. fleetwood mac was huge in the 70s, yes. stevie was huge in her own right. but neither is huge anymore (sorry again). they both still have a following (all of us) - but despite what someone wrote at some point in this thread (too lazy to go find it to quote), stevie nicks will NOT be on the cover of Time when she dies. she may make the cover of Rolling Stone.

[Angel69]

yes... but so have many other rock stars. there are rock stars, and then there are the beatles. tina turner. johnny cash. they are in a different realm.

i think to have mass appeal, there needs to be something more. fleetwood mac was huge in the 70s, yes. stevie was huge in her own right. but neither is huge anymore (sorry again). they both still have a following (all of us) - but despite what someone wrote at some point in this thread (too lazy to go find it to quote), stevie nicks will NOT be on the cover of Time when she dies. she may make the cover of Rolling Stone.

But the thread is about a Stevie Nicks movie not some other rock stars movie so I brought out a few points for Stevie. Johnny Cash did not have mass appeal by any means. I have some of his albums and I also have a die hard fan of his for a friend so I have plenty of his music from her. Stevie has just as much appeal as Johnny in terms of content for a movie. Tina Turner had the battered woman/come out on top appeal. Stevie may not have been a battered woman but we all know we almost lost her to drugs twice, first with the coke then with the klonopin, and she has come out a survivor. The Beatles are The Beatles and almost everyone loves them. Someone who has been in the public spotlight as Stevie has for thirty years and has been dissected, scruitinized, lauded and berated, may be worthy of a film.. Stevie is not just a rock star. REO Speedwagon, Supertramp, The Go-Go's are just rock stars. Stevie is an Icon plain and simple.

[gypsysoul]

You can't get a bigger rock icon than Elvis or Lennon. However, there has yet to be a definitive film about either. All attempts so far (plus the stage musical Lennon which bombed) have been either too sentimental or plain awful.

So, level of fame/iconic status has nothing to do with whether your story will make a good film. Johnny Cash meant nothing to many people who went to see Walk the Line. They went to see it because of the way the film was marketed, the story, the actors in it and the whole Oscar buzz.

Film like A Beautiful Mind, Erin Brokovitch or Rush were biopics of people who hardly anyone knew but they were a huge success because of other factors.

I have many friends in the film business including people who finance films and I can tell you that simply having led a wild rock star life is not enough to sell a project.
One friend has a great script about Freddie Mercury's life - hugely colourful character, gay, originally from India, died of aids, sang at Live Aid etc etc. What a great story.
But there is no emotional heart that an average non fan could relate to.

That's why i go back to my original post - a film about the Buckinghamnicks love affair, in the right hands could be a great project. And i don't mean a cheesy made for tv type film.

People love a good love story and this one has all the other elements too, drugs, breakups, reconcilaitions, music and phenomenal success which made neither particularly happy.

Throw in Stevie's fashion sense, a thumping soundtrack and all the great Rolling Stone photoshoots and you have a marketing person's dream. Women would snap up Stevie type clothes, the songs are heartbreaking and beautiful and both, especially Stevie could work up a storm with chat show appearances pre release about all the gossip we don't know.

Give this to Cameron Crowe to direct, get Scarlett johannson and a great actor to play the lead roles, follow the story from teenage sweethearts to the Dance reunion, market the music and fashion like crazy and I honestly think you could have a great production.

A good film can create icons just as much as capture their life.

In fact, I'll just go mention it to one of my buddies now......

[gypsysoul]

I would also just add that 'Ray' had terrible trouble getting finance because the studios did not believe a film about a black star could be a mainstream success even though it was Ray Charles.
Jamie Foxx blew that theory out the water with is performance and now there is a Marvin Gaye biopic in pre production. Ray was going to be a tiny film that noone saw until the marketing team ran with Foxx's performance and the rest, as they say, is history.

The fact that Stevie isn't up there with Madonna in terms of fame could actually work in her favour in that new people would 'discover' her and Fleetwood mac via a film.

A film about Madonna, incidentally, would almost certainly bomb if it was made. She is almost too big to be the subject of a biopic and there is no mystery to her.

[paleshadow]

I doubt that there is much validity to this at all. Wouldn't Stevie have to authorize this? She hasn't even put together the book she's always talking about because she says she doesn't want to hurt anyone that would be mentioned in it. I think it's too soon for a Stevie film. Aside from the Tina Turner biopic "What's Love Got To Do With It", aren't most films about celebrities done after they are dead or at least based on the autobiography? I don't really see this as a big screen movie either, but maybe a tv movie, Ala Lifetime.

[jean-mariecowl]

Lindsey lohan... good ol commercialistic society. the writers not even knowing a THING about stevie. jean-marie:distress:

[David]

In 1995, Lifetime was planning a TV biography about Stevie, but she nixed it & that was unfortunately that.

[DrummerDeanna]

In 1995, Lifetime was planning a TV biography about Stevie, but she nixed it & that was unfortunately that.

Lifetime!?! Seriously? :laugh: So that would mean what...Melissa Gilbert or Sally Struthers as Stevie Nicks ;)

[BTFLCHLD]

I hope this doesn't happen unless of course Stevie is 100% behind it. And as to Lohan considering it? She would drop shorts for a role like this. I pray to the heavens she doesn't receive the opportunity as she already butched Edge. I still think Shakira could pull off the role visually. :cool: Ideal would be Stevie playing herself! :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

In 1995, Lifetime was planning a TV biography about Stevie, but she nixed it & that was unfortunately that.If I remember correctly, it was actually supposed to be an episode of their 'Intimate Portrait' series with a newly-filmed companion concert to air with it (similar to what they did with Carly Simon around that time).

I don't believe it was meant to be a made-for-TV biopic.

[JazmenFlowers]

If I remember correctly, it was actually supposed to be an episode of their 'Intimate Portrait' series with a newly-filmed companion concert to air with it (similar to what they did with Carly Simon around that time).

I don't believe it was meant to be a made-for-TV biopic.
I can't tell you how many times I wrote Lifetime about doing an "Intimate Portrait" for Stevie. they've done just about every woman ever remotely famous...

I can't take the idea of Lohan playing Stevie seriously. I just can't. Shakira would be awesome, visually; but that's about it. I can't stand that woman otherwise.

[David]

If I remember correctly, it was actually supposed to be an episode of their 'Intimate Portrait' series with a newly-filmed companion concert to air with it (similar to what they did with Carly Simon around that time).

I don't believe it was meant to be a made-for-TV biopic.that's right. They were gonna do a profile type of bio & Stevie nixed it. She nixed a LOT of stuff.

[JazmenFlowers]

that's right. They were gonna do a profile type of bio & Stevie nixed it. She nixed a LOT of stuff.
why did she nix it? I mean, it's basically the same thing as the Behind the Music. :shrug:

[GypsySongbird]

Chris and John would be there of course - but too bad - they're boring and their on-camera time would be limited to group/concert scenes and background shots. Sorry.

im sorry but john and christine are no less interesting than stevie! im a massive stevie fan but i dont say everyone else is just boring

in fact their lives are just as interesting, they were in the same band and went through just as much if not more, what with johns quite dangerous drinking, what he put christine through with that, her affairs etc. along with the fact despite every stevie lover wishing they were still in love, she and lindsey just arent, they pretty much annoyed each other after, chris & john had a very very deep relationship and it took along time to come to terms with the split, & they actually do love each other now, maybe not in the same way but very deeply

being a stevie lover, i wouldnt say that was boring

[Johnny Stew]

that's right. They were gonna do a profile type of bio & Stevie nixed it. She nixed a LOT of stuff.Are we certain that she nixed it, or is it just one of those many things in an artist's career that falls through during the planning stages?

[David]

Are we certain that she nixed it, or is it just one of those many things in an artist's career that falls through during the planning stages?Stevie squashed it with vindictiveness & vituperation & exorbitant fiscal waste!! That's why she's such a cool rock star!!
:] :blob2: :thumbsup:

[amber]

If this is done right then I don't see what the big deal is.

The big deal, darling - The "big deal" is that....

That role is Mine! MINE!!!!! :mad: :mad:









:lol: :D

[gypsysoul]

im sorry but john and christine are no less interesting than stevie!
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Gypsysongbird - I agree with you there. John and Christine are very different personalities to LB and SN but I've never thought they were boring. And I'm sure their love was just as passionate and the breakup just as horrendous for them.
The John and Christine story on Christine's forum was really interesting.

[cliffdweller]

You are are so funny...
Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man.

No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!

[BlackWidow]

No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!
NO! YOU'RE FUNNY!:D

[David]

No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!The Carter Family was great back in the '30s & '40s! Ken Burns even did a documentary on them.

Stevie loved the Carter Family so much that she even sang "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" as a child.

[BlackWidow]

yes... but so have many other rock stars. there are rock stars, and then there are the beatles. tina turner. johnny cash. they are in a different realm.

i think to have mass appeal, there needs to be something more. fleetwood mac was huge in the 70s, yes. stevie was huge in her own right. but neither is huge anymore (sorry again). they both still have a following (all of us) - but despite what someone wrote at some point in this thread (too lazy to go find it to quote), stevie nicks will NOT be on the cover of Time when she dies. she may make the cover of Rolling Stone.
Well maybe when she dies..we can all get together and count magazine covers...:D

[macfanken]

In 1995, Lifetime was planning a TV biography about Stevie, but she nixed it & that was unfortunately that.


She nixed it!! That's so clever! Bwahhahaha! :lol:

[DavidMn]

I certainly wont be going to see it.

[BlackWidow]

I certainly wont be going to see it.
^5 David!:cool:

[ELIUD]

Thank you David. That's exactly what I was saying. My response was to the initial post that Stevie is a bigger star than Cash, which is clearly not true. There was a buzz around the Cash film from the start because of the subject matter, but of course the casting, the marketing and the awards it received played a big part in giving the film an appeal beyond just his fans. Obviously.
Yet somehow this formula for successful film-making won't work with a movie about Stevie?

I know exactly what you and johndoe said and what was implied. And that was that Stevie isn't as famous (or as iconic - whatever) as what's his name and therefore a movie about her would be "a minor hit".

And CHRISTINE AND JOHN ARE BORING.

[David]

And CHRISTINE AND JOHN ARE BORING.Don't you think boredom is subjective? I think John & Chris are interesting. Watching people impersonate John & Chris for TV or movies would keep me entertained.

[ELIUD]

I'm sure in real life they are pretty funny and interesting people. Not to mention the immense talent, especially Christine, whom I believe got way better musically as she aged. She never lost a thing. HOWEVER, her persona would have to downplayed as kind of a wallflower/wise old owl to the wild child, drug crazed young nubile Stevie Nicks in a movie. Come on David, they could cast Bea Arthur as Christine and no one would flinch.

[DavidMn]

^5 David!:cool:It's like that tribute cd that came out about 10 years ago, I just have no interest in anything but the real thing.:nod:

[nightbird89]

hmmm, when you think of stevie, u dont at first think of anything innapropriate. But the when ya think of the drugs n booze n stuff...whaddaya think they'd rate this? ( just curious?)

[amber]

hmmm, when you think of stevie, u dont at first think of anything innapropriate. But the when ya think of the drugs n booze n stuff...whaddaya think they'd rate this? ( just curious?)

Probably they'll rate it "B" for Boring, or "L" for Lame, or maybe "I" for Innacurate.

[Serrart]

And CHRISTINE AND JOHN ARE BORING.

I don't think anyone's life is boring, and definitely there are many aspects in John and Christine lives that are interesting, the important thing is how a story is told. For instance, Konchalovsky made a film about Stalin's private projectionist and it was brilliant and very intriguing.

Romy

[nightbird89]

Probably they'll rate it "B" for Boring, or "L" for Lame, or maybe "I" for Innacurate.
LMAO pg-13? i just doubt they'll get stevie's personality downpat, unless maybe they worked with her. wouldn't it be great if she wrote the script? :angel:

[goldustsongbird]

wouldn't it be great if she wrote the script? :angel:

If she did, it'd look
~like this
with ~'s and ...'s...
all over.... the place.~

... for dramatic~ effect.

[johndoe]

If she did, it'd look
~like this
with ~'s and ...'s...
all over.... the place.~

... for dramatic~ effect.

Enter Stevie~

Stevie: I AM A BEAUTIFUL ENCHANTRESS~~~

Lindsey: Packing up ~~~and shacking up is all you want to do. Isn't that WIERD~~~

Stevie: I felt I knew you in a past life~~~

Lindsey: I belive everything goes in cycles~~~

Enter ~~~~Mick, playing synth ~vest

Mick: Moveyabody, Moveyabody, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME HANKKKKY~~~ PANNKKY

[goldustsongbird]

Enter Stevie~

Stevie: I AM A BEAUTIFUL ENCHANTRESS~~~

Lindsey: Packing up ~~~and shacking up is all you want to do. Isn't that WIERD~~~

Stevie: I felt I knew you in a past life~~~

Lindsey: I belive everything goes in cycles~~~

Enter ~~~~Mick, playing synth ~vest

Mick: Moveyabody, Moveyabody, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME HANKKKKY~~~ PANNKKY

Where's ~
Chris?

And how did you get your hands on an advanced copy of the script? :lol:

[BlackWidow]

I'm sure in real life they are pretty funny and interesting people. Not to mention the immense talent, especially Christine, whom I believe got way better musically as she aged. She never lost a thing. HOWEVER, her persona would have to downplayed as kind of a wallflower/wise old owl to the wild child, drug crazed young nubile Stevie Nicks in a movie. Come on David, they could cast Bea Arthur as Christine and no one would flinch.
Bea Arthur!!!! LMFAO!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BlackWidow]

Where's ~
Chris?

And how did you get your hands on an advanced copy of the script? :lol:
~Enter Chris in maids attire

[BlackWidow]

Yet somehow this formula for successful film-making won't work with a movie about Stevie?

I know exactly what you and johndoe said and what was implied. And that was that Stevie isn't as famous (or as iconic - whatever) as what's his name and therefore a movie about her would be "a minor hit".

And CHRISTINE AND JOHN ARE BORING.
We wont have anymore BS!
Stevie is an ICON. Period!
Just thinking about the McVie's puts me to..Zzzzzzzzzzz.

[goldustsongbird]

~Enter Chris in maids attire
Is this the sex scene?

[GypsySongbird]

And CHRISTINE AND JOHN ARE BORING.

you obviously dont know alot about them.....fair enough

[BlackWidow]

Is this the sex scene?
no..just some light housecleaning.

[JazmenFlowers]

you obviously dont know alot about them.....fair enough
well, I may not know a lot about them, but they aren't as interesting as Stevie. nothing against them and it's not necessarily a negative comment.

even if I had no bias towards Stevie, she'd still be the most interesting.

[ELIUD]

...I do concede that if someone like Steven Spielberg decided to direct and Reese Witherspoon starred and/or the movie was a big awards-winner, then a movie about Stevie would probably be huge. This would largely depend on the studio and whether the script is any good as to how much support it would give the movie. Sony had the recent Brian Jones (of Rolling Stone fame) biopic, which was great, but it didn't demand a big star in the main role, sold it as a indie-style movie and gave it a limited theatrical release for example.
Well, it took a while but I see you've started to agree with me. Especially on the need to market this film correctly with a good script in order to make it a big hit. But big name actresses and directors aren't necessary if the buzz is that good. That's where we differ. After some good Hollywood buzz the Reese's and the Spielbergs of the day would come CRAWLING. I never disagreed with anybody on this level of iconic importance bullshit, I DON'T CARE that Johnny Cash is more famous than Stevie Nicks. All I know is that everyone pretty much agreed her life is interesting enough to make a great movie. It wasn't until Johnny came into the discussion that suddenly the idea became absurd.

But obviously you know my mind better than I do myself, and I can't have opinions separate to Johndoe.
Oh come on now seriously, I was only going from what you had posted. I'm not a mind reader.

[ELIUD]

well, I may not know a lot about them, but they aren't as interesting as Stevie. nothing against them and it's not necessarily a negative comment.

even if I had no bias towards Stevie, she'd still be the most interesting.
and they're not a pretty as Lindsey and Stevie either!

I kid.

[David]

even if I had no bias towards Stevie, she'd still be the most interesting.The very concept of "interesting" is a function of an observer's subjectivity--of his preferences & proclivities.

Stevie is no more inherently interesting than Christine McVie or Jeff Beck or Elie Wiesel or even (God forgive me) Beethoven. It's all in the observation--in the perspective of the viewer/reader/listener.

That is why everybody in the world does not like exactly the same music, books, films, paintings, politicians, folk songs, & architectural styles. Different people derive different pleasures from different things. Some people think Stevie Nicks is interesting; others do not. Some people think Christine McVie is interesting; others, obviously, do not. You might find Stevie's love affairs, unconquerable spirit, trials & tribulations interesting, but somebody standing next to you might not think any of that is interesting. The mole on Christine's elbow might be decisively more interesting to him. One person thinks "Bleak House" is interesting, but another thinks it's dull. There's just no way to treat "interesting" as some sort of objective quality that resides in the thing viewed rather than in the viewer.

[BTFLCHLD]

David, IMO this post reads like a script from TLC <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/37.gif">

"Whatever you say POPS!" :rolleyes:

The very concept of "interesting" is a function of an observer's subjectivity--of his preferences & proclivities.

Stevie is no more inherently interesting than Christine McVie or Jeff Beck or Elie Wiesel or even (God forgive me) Beethoven. It's all in the observation--in the perspective of the viewer/reader/listener.

That is why everybody in the world does not like exactly the same music, books, films, paintings, politicians, folk songs, & architectural styles. Different people derive different pleasures from different things. Some people think Stevie Nicks is interesting; others do not. Some people think Christine McVie is interesting; others, obviously, do not. You might find Stevie's love affairs, unconquerable spirit, trials & tribulations interesting, but somebody standing next to you might not think any of that is interesting. The mole on Christine's elbow might be decisively more interesting to him. One person thinks "Bleak House" is interesting, but another thinks it's dull. There's just no way to treat "interesting" as some sort of objective quality that resides in the thing viewed rather than in the viewer.

[JazmenFlowers]

The very concept of "interesting" is a function of an observer's subjectivity--of his preferences & proclivities.
well duh. I was speaking for myself.

[David]

David, IMO this post reads like a script from TLC <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/37.gif">[/SIZE]
Well, I flit from style to style, depending on my mood. Sometimes I effuse in the Pauline Kael style: breezy & slangy. Other times I carefully shape each phrase, each morpheme, in the Barzunesque manner.

Rhetorical styles are like hats to me: put one on first, & then put on another! I vamp campily one minute & turn elegiac & lapidary the next!

[BTFLCHLD]

Well, I flit from style to style, depending on my mood. Sometimes I effuse in the Pauline Kael style: breezy & slangy. Other times I carefully shape each phrase, each morpheme, in the Barzunesque manner.

Rhetorical styles are like hats to me: put one on first, & then put on another! I vamp campily one minute & turn elegiac & lapidary the next!

Yes, I can't help but notice. :lol:

[jannieC]

Well, I flit from style to style, depending on my mood. Sometimes I effuse in the Pauline Kael style: breezy & slangy. Other times I carefully shape each phrase, each morpheme, in the Barzunesque manner.

Rhetorical styles are like hats to me: put one on first, & then put on another! I vamp campily one minute & turn elegiac & lapidary the next!
Doesn't 'lapidary' have something to do with gem stone cutting?

Nevermind- just looked up the definition as an adj. David, in all seriousness, do you use words like this in your speech, or just in writing? I think it's amazing that you (and people like you) can remember words like that and use them correctly. I thought words like that only showed up on the GRE. Which, by the way, you would do wonderfully on.

[JazmenFlowers]

Well, I flit from style to style, depending on my mood. Sometimes I effuse in the Pauline Kael style: breezy & slangy. Other times I carefully shape each phrase, each morpheme, in the Barzunesque manner.

Rhetorical styles are like hats to me: put one on first, & then put on another! I vamp campily one minute & turn elegiac & lapidary the next!
why not pick one and stick with it? sometimes it annoys. :shrug:

EDIT: don't take offense, I'm just being honest.

[ELIUD]

David. Dude. When we say things like "Stevie is interesting" or "Christine is boring" we do so expressing individual opinions. Yes some of us don't realize how subjective those statements are but unless we preface it with "I hereby declare for the world to know that in fact..." then please, consider these comments deserving no more scrutinizing than as if they were coming outta our ass.

[David]

Doesn't 'lapidary' have something to do with gem stone cutting?

Nevermind- just looked up the definition as an adj. David, in all seriousness, do you use words like this in your speech, or just in writing?I write the way I talk, generally. When I talk, I go from one rhetorical style to another! It's a wacky good time. Whew!
I think it's amazing that you (and people like you) can remember words like that and use them correctly.Well, I don't know ... I mean ... I don't know ... I do crossword puzzles, which test one's ability to recall little-used words. Plus I do make my living working with words & with other aspects of language. I get paid to read something & to spot words that aren't used correctly & finally to replace the rotten words with better words.
I thought words like that only showed up on the GRE. Which, by the way, you would do wonderfully on.I took the GRE--I went to grad school--& I didn't exactly ace it! (The GRE I took--tailored to my education plans--had two parts: literary history & general language.)

[David]

David. Dude. When we say things like "Stevie is interesting" or "Christine is boring" we do so expressing individual opinions. Yes some of us don't realize how subjective those statements are but unless we preface it with "I hereby declare for the world to know that in fact..." then please, consider these comments deserving no more scrutinizing than as if they were coming outta our ass.
Here's Jason's exact quote:

"even if I had no bias towards Stevie, she'd still be the most interesting."

By the way, Jason rocks!!! My reply in no way disparages--oops, sorry, I mean mocks--Jason.

[David]

why not pick one and stick with it? sometimes it annoys. :shrug:

EDIT: don't take offense, I'm just being honest.None taken. Excellent point! But I can no more pick one rhetorical stance & stick with it than I can pick one mood & stick with it! I'm a seething, roiling cauldron of moods, tones, styles. I'll play the orator as well as Nestor/Deceive more slily than Ulysses could/And, like a Sinon, take another Troy/I can add colours to the chameleon/Change shapes with Proteus for advantages, etc. etc.
:blob2: :blob2: :]

[gypsysoul]

Can we have some fun and cast this movie please. My dream team:

Cameron Crowe -director

Scarlett johansson - young Stevie /Kate Winslett -older Stevie

Rufus Sewell -young bearded Lindsey / Billy Crudup - clean shaven LB from Tusk onwards

Emma Thompson - Christine
Bob Hoskins -John
McKenzie Crookes (with dark wig) -Mick

Story centres around SN & LB romance from teenagers to The Dance. End with Silver Springs - not a dry eye in the house.

My only request - the Stevie/Mick fling is dealt with by way of voiceover:lol:

[sparky]

Well, I flit from style to style, depending on my mood. Sometimes I effuse in the Pauline Kael style: breezy & slangy. Other times I carefully shape each phrase, each morpheme, in the Barzunesque manner.

Rhetorical styles are like hats to me: put one on first, & then put on another! I vamp campily one minute & turn elegiac & lapidary the next!

You light up my life.

[ELIUD]

Here's Jason's exact quote:

"even if I had no bias towards Stevie, she'd still be the most interesting."

By the way, Jason rocks!!! My reply in no way disparages--oops, sorry, I mean mocks--Jason.

Yes some of us don't know how subj...oh nevermind.

[jannieC]

My reply in no way disparages--oops, sorry, I mean mocks--Jason.

Oh stop it, disparage isn't a big word. :lol: Words like 'morpheme', 'elegiac', and 'lapidary' are the types of words I'm talking about. I was curious if you use words like that in your everyday speech.

[JazmenFlowers]

None taken. Excellent point! But I can no more pick one rhetorical stance & stick with it than I can pick one mood & stick with it! I'm a seething, roiling cauldron of moods, tones, styles. I'll play the orator as well as Nestor/Deceive more slily than Ulysses could/And, like a Sinon, take another Troy/I can add colours to the chameleon/Change shapes with Proteus for advantages, etc. etc.
:blob2: :blob2: :]
:lol:

ok, that made me laugh.

[GypsySongbird]

David. Dude. When we say things like "Stevie is interesting" or "Christine is boring" we do so expressing individual opinions. Yes some of us don't realize how subjective those statements are but unless we preface it with "I hereby declare for the world to know that in fact..." then please, consider these comments deserving no more scrutinizing than as if they were coming outta our ass.

it was actually alot more like - christine is boring - fact

rather than, yea i think christines a bit boring

if you re-read your posts

just pointing out

[ELIUD]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.

[BlackWidow]

David, IMO this post reads like a script from TLC <img src="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/BTFLCHLD/37.gif">

"Whatever you say POPS!" :rolleyes:


Thank you for posting what we were all thinking!:nod:

[BlackWidow]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.
LMAO!
You are officially my new role model.

[goldustsongbird]

no..just some light housecleaning.

Way to ruin the moment!

[BlackWidow]

David. Dude. When we say things like "Stevie is interesting" or "Christine is boring" we do so expressing individual opinions. Yes some of us don't realize how subjective those statements are but unless we preface it with "I hereby declare for the world to know that in fact..." then please, consider these comments deserving no more scrutinizing than as if they were coming outta our ass.
"I hereby declare for the world to know that in fact ...I am LMFAO!":lol:

[GypsySongbird]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.

you're apparently 42?

thats pretty immature for a 42 year old

in my humble opinion

of a 16 year old

[BTFLCHLD]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact. Fact: Christine is pretty.
Opinion: Your avatar is ugly.

[GypsySongbird]

Fact: Christine is pretty.

fact: christine is beautiful! :D

Opinion: Your avatar is ugly.

well........i didnt want to lower myself but..................:rolleyes:

[BTFLCHLD]

well........i didnt want to lower myself but..................:rolleyes: ;) TIT for TAT seems apropos in this circumstance.

[David]

You light up my life.spark, you are the light around here.

[tlssln]

This can't be true!
I mean, Stevie movie in the works....GREAT!
Lindsay Lohan playing her...Did they not hear how she butchered Edge of Seventeen?!?!?!? Don't get me wrong, she could be an EXCELLENT lip syncher, but just the thought of someone like her playing the one and only Stevie Nicks sickens me. Glad it's just a rumor for now.


INDEED!!! Ick!

[johndoe]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.

:distress:

Proof that you can be 42, and never grow up.

[GiniLeaE]

If Lindsay Lohan is involved I doubt it will go straight to video. I don't know why everyone is getting so worked up. I think Lohan is a pretty good actress.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/GiniLeaE/staranibar.gif
"Lindsay Lo Ho" as I like to call her...has not proven herself worthy to play Stevie yet. She's only played "bubblegum" roles so far in my opinion...check Imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) if you haven't seen them yet and rent them. I've taken my lil' bro to see some of them in the past, before she got a bit risque for my taste. I'm glad he's into the Disney Channel crew now (Thanks to Ashley Tisdale and "High School Musical"!)

Sorry for rambling, but her last two wardrobe malfunctions were more than I could take...one was even in front of children at the Nickelodeon awards this year! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/GiniLeaE/Stevie%20Nicks/lindsaylohannippleslip.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/GiniLeaE/yuck.gifhttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/GiniLeaE/Stevie%20Nicks/lindsaylohancensoredbarebutt.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/GiniLeaE/staranibar.gif

[johndoe]

So...many...images...

[Gailh]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.

Come over to the Christine board and say that!

Gail

[skcin]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.


Wow. That would be rude if it were true.

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by ELIUD
No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.
Fact: Christine is pretty.
Opinion: Your avatar is ugly.
Of course, the avatar has now changed. :rolleyes:
Look MA...my opinions are influential!!! :]

[GypsySongbird]

Of course, the avatar has now changed. :rolleyes:
Look MA...my opinions are influential!!! :]

aww the world has just become a more beautiful place! :D

its changed to a picture of christine as well................wonder if thats meant to be sarcasm.............:rolleyes:

my sig picture too! wonder if thats meant to be double sarcasm!

hehehe but im not complaining cause that is a gorgeous picture!!!:D

[tlssln]

Ya, thats what I'm thinking. Straight to DVD. Johnny Cash was a drug addict with a seriously interesting life and a tension filled relationship with his wife that he really could only get an intimate moment with in front of an audience. Ray Charles came from a poor family and rose through to become a super star.Stevie slept with like, everyone in the Eagles, and wrote a few hit songs.

Not to diminish her, because I am a fan, but shes not exactly a mega star like the others.


Umm, ok so Stevie wasn't in prison but she was a drug addict...twice.. and her best friend died not long after giving birth and Stevie married her dead friend's husband...etc. She slept with 2 out of 10 or whatever Eagles, big deal. It's not like she banged a whole football team. Frankly I think Johnny Cash and Ray Charles are boring and if the actors in those movies hadn't done such fantastic jobs portraying them, they would've gone straight to DVD too. That is why they need to cast someone more compelling than Lohan to play Stevie. Her story is interesting they just need someone who can bring it across to people. A more respected actress. And Stevie wrote more than a few hits. She wrote some of the most recognizable and radio-played songs in rock. According to VH1's Behind the Music she's had 17 Top 40 hits. That ain't chopped liver. How many did Ray Charles have?

[tlssln]

Can we have some fun and cast this movie please. My dream team:

Cameron Crowe -director

Scarlett johansson - young Stevie /Kate Winslett -older Stevie

Rufus Sewell -young bearded Lindsey / Billy Crudup - clean shaven LB from Tusk onwards

Emma Thompson - Christine
Bob Hoskins -John
McKenzie Crookes (with dark wig) -Mick

Story centres around SN & LB romance from teenagers to The Dance. End with Silver Springs - not a dry eye in the house.

My only request - the Stevie/Mick fling is dealt with by way of voiceover:lol:


LOL. I could go with most of your proposal, ESPECIALLY the last part.

[jwd]

No that isn't right. "Christine is boring" is an opinion. "Christine is ugly" is a fact.

The only time I thought Christine was "ugly" was around the early to mid 80s. She had those real puffy eyes and bloated look. Drugs? Booze? I dunno. I do remember an interview she had on MTV with Mark Goodman when she was promoting her solo record and she looked down right dreadful. Just like she had come off an allnighter. I was really embarrassed for her. :o That being said though, don't you know that the only FM member you're allowed to criticize is Stevie. I think she's been called "ugly" at least a few times on these boards.

[David]

I do remember an interview she had on MTV with Mark Goodman when she was promoting her solo recordJoe, you & I don't chat goodnaturedly any more the way we used to. I miss those old days.

[jwd]

Joe, you & I don't chat goodnaturedly any more the way we used to. I miss those old days.

:laugh: Quite honestly David, I don't remember those days!:laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

:laugh: Quite honestly David, I don't remember those days!:laugh: Yes, it was much like yesterday. ;)

Nice to be missed JWD? :xoxo:

[carrie721]

None taken. Excellent point! But I can no more pick one rhetorical stance & stick with it than I can pick one mood & stick with it! I'm a seething, roiling cauldron of moods, tones, styles. I'll play the orator as well as Nestor/Deceive more slily than Ulysses could/And, like a Sinon, take another Troy/I can add colours to the chameleon/Change shapes with Proteus for advantages, etc. etc.
:blob2: :blob2: :]

as long as you don't start talking like that guy from the sound and the fury, i think i can follow. :nod:

[Sahara]

To be honest I can't see this happening, with Lohan or without.

But if it does...

Johnny Depp shall be Buckingham!! :rolleyes:

[gypsysoul]

Johnny Depp shall be Buckingham!!


Oh nice one Sahara.
Johnny would certainly carry off that 1987 break-up. 'Get this schizophrenic bitch off me':laugh:


ps got your pm, will reply very soon.

[MirrorInTheSky]

This thread is too long for me to read everything, so this may be old news, but (from Fox News)....

Young Lohan does warble a couple of tunes in “Prairie” with a lot of panache, but they are as unlike the two shrill albums she made for Tommy Mottola as possible.

“Universal Music just signed her for three albums,” Dina said, “but it’s going to be under Jimmy Iovine. They have to figure out what to do with her.”

Did Jimmy work w/ her on EOS, or is this a new Stevie connection???

[Dreamz19]

A friend who works in the movie business here in L.A. just called to tell me there is definitely a movie in the works based on Stevie's life and they are going after Lindsay Lohan for the lead. I asked if Stevie was involved but he didn't know. I would love to know more!

Lohan as Stevie? HELL NO!

A Stevie movie sounds good to me and I do like Lindsay Lohan as an actress (only). But after watching how horrible she was with EO17 the last thing I want is to see her in a movie playing Stevie. I know she wouldn't be actually singing but she performed EO17 badly and she can't work the stage. If she can't even pull that off I don't think she could pull off playing Stevie.

[Dreamz19]

Firstly, I think a film about the Buckinghamnicks love affair (with a good script) would make an excellent story a la Walk the Line and set in the context of Fleetwood Mac, especially the Rumours era. This way the rest of the band would not be diminished but equally would not be the focus.

The couple's songs about each other would provide a fantastic, dramatic musical backdrop.

The whole 'will they/won't they' could easily keep a non Fleetwood Mac audience enthralled just as Walk the line did for people (like me) who knew nothing of that relationship.

I don't think Stevie alone is a good enough subject: she did all the drugs and sleeping around but she neither died young nor came through to live a happy life as most people would want it to end ie with love/marriage/children.

Unless Stevie's life is put in the context of another person whom the audience can also care about it will have no real substance or emotional pull for them. Single rock star leads a life of drugs and short affairs - so what?

Therefore LB would have to be an integral part, he is the only enduring love she has had and therefore the only one people would actually care about.
The likes of Don Henley would simply be cameos that music fans would recognize but would mean little to most people (the Eagles were big, he personally was not.)

Secondly, cast: i would choose Scarlett Johansson as Stevie and get someone to do the singing. Scarlett is an excellent actress, young enough to pull off innocent BN Stevie and later more worldly Stevie.
As for LB, my first choice woul dbe Billy Crudup but if we're talking young Lindsey then possibly British actor Rufus Sewell.

I remember lurking at a Stevie board last year and I saw this topic come up about who could play her. I said then that Scarlett would be a good choice when I saw a pic of Stevie that reminded me of her.

[Dreamz19]

All I was saying was that a person doesn't have to be as famous as Johnny Cash to validate making a movie about them and with the right script and marketing/ad campaign, a movie about Stevie could be huge.

And I would WHOLEY recommend "Freeway" and "Election" to see the true talent of Reese Witherspoon. Both performances were outstanding.

You totally read my mind. For those who don't think Reese is talented please view 'Freeway" and "Election." That girl was amazing in those movies. She really pulled off those characters well. She took more risk back then with her characters. I wish she would do that now.