Stevie News from Australia! [Archive]

emmaline

02-08-2006, 04:01 AM

Hi Guys,

Unfortunatly I have to report over a terrible article printed in an australian
newspaper by out uninformed journalists, I am not aware if this is true or
not, as I was not able to go to the Alan Border Medal.

Todays Herald Sun printed an article about Stevie's performance and how she wasn't keeping up with the music and that she needed a teleprompter or a screen with the lyrics because she didn't know the words.

I have plans to write to the journalist or the paper for this report as they
don't even know whether this is true or not.

I believe as I am studying to be a Journalist, that Journalists should have their own opinion but not at the expense of great people like our Stevie.

The Article is available on the net at:
http://www.newstext.com.au/
I would have posted it all but there is a fee when searching for articles.

Seeya
Emmaline.

Johnny Stew

02-08-2006, 04:20 AM

Kind of ironic that Stevie would be accused of not knowing the words to a song that many fans feel she could sing (and possibly has, circa 1991) in her sleep!

Thanks for the post, Emmaline. :)

GODDESS6

02-08-2006, 06:16 AM

danax6

02-08-2006, 07:16 AM

She uses a teleprompter all the time, what's the big deal? :shrug:

jkmaletic

02-08-2006, 07:31 AM

She uses a teleprompter all the time, what's the big deal? :shrug:

Exactly. I think she just always has it there as a security blanket, in case she gets emotional or something. She certainly doesn't rely on it - we'de all have seen her doing that by now if she was. What an ass that guy was for writing that. :rolleyes:

bikerchic

02-08-2006, 08:59 AM

Christ, the girl's pushing 60. She's entitled to forget things. I'm 41 and I forget my kid's names sometimes.

The Catdancer

02-08-2006, 09:02 AM

Christ, the girl's pushing 60. She's entitled to forget things. I'm 41 and I forget my kid's names sometimes.

I was just about to say that. I'll be 43 in March and I even forget where I am at times LOL

Villavic

02-08-2006, 09:12 AM

Christ, the girl's pushing 60. She's entitled to forget things. I'm 41 and I forget my kid's names sometimes.

I'm almost 40 and with same problem!! :( :(

I remember Stevie forgot DREAMS lyrics twice, during the first show of THE DANCE (the recorded shows, not the tour), and Christine gave to her some words of support. Don't know if the story is true

jannieC

02-08-2006, 09:59 AM

I cannot imagine Stevie forgetting the words to her own songs. Perhaps back in the drug days, but not now. I won't believe it unless I see video footage. :laugh:

SuzeQuze

02-08-2006, 10:03 AM

I was just about to say that. I'll be 43 in March and I even forget where I am at times LOL

I'm 34 and have forgotten my phone number and my zip code!

On edit: Emmaline can you get the email address of that journalist?

Also, I tried to find this article using Google News but could not. However, I found the below notable and recent Stevie mentions:

In a fashion reference
At the other end were collections such as Jill Stuart's Monday showing featuring a series of droopy black maxi dresses and coats that were more Morticia Addams than Stevie Nicks — dour instead of dynamic.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060208/LIFE/602080401/1006

Using her lyrics to describe sports (no kidding)
The Seahawks’ M.O. was, as Stevie Nicks sings, hauntingly familiar.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/jeffgordon/story/F1966124F54463408625710D0059E929?OpenDocument

On music that is essential to your life
4. "Trouble in Shangri-La," Stevie Nicks (2001): "She lifts my spirits when I don't think it's possible for them to be lifted. (Nicks) herself is an inspiration."
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060205/ENT/602050304

A FM fan, and greatly informed at that, on a political site
By far the larger of the two fan bases is the one that favors the latter (post '74) line-up fronted by the smart pop sensibilities of guitarist Lindsay Buckingham and the enticing sexuality of a chanteuse-turned-arena warbler, Stevie Nicks.
http://www.counterpunch.org/glahn02042006.html

gldstwmn

02-08-2006, 11:22 AM

I saw the clip and didn't think she was unable to keep up with the music. :confused:

Jyqm

02-08-2006, 11:29 AM

I cannot imagine Stevie forgetting the words to her own songs. Perhaps back in the drug days, but not now.

Admittedly, it's not as though she needs to keep her entire catalogue in her head when she performs fewer than twenty songs per tour and sings the same songs every night, some of which she's been singing every night for quite a few years now. It shouldn't be that difficult to remember these lyrics. But still, she is over 50, and sometimes your memory konks out on you, especially when you're up on stage in front of a bunch of people. There are plenty of other aging rock stars - including the likes of Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen - who use lyric sheets or teleprompters as a safety net during concerts. It's a practice that's becoming more and more acceptable as more and more rock musicians head way over the hill, and it's a cheap shot to use it against someone.

That said, I really pity music journalists in the Internet Age. Write a single remotely negative thing about someone and suddenly it's on all the websites, and busybody fans from all over the world are writing you hundreds of angry letters. So this guy wrote an unflattering article about Stevie. So what? I doubt this one article is going to change anybody's feelings about Stevie, good or bad. She's been around long enough to know that it's not worth paying any mind to these kinds of articles. Just leave it be. A bunch of "You suck!" e-mails aren't going to convince this guy to run a retraction or apology. If anything, they'll just put him off Stevie even more.

DavidMn

02-08-2006, 12:43 PM

Sinatra used one right up until the end. I dont think it's any reflection on Stevie knowledge of a song or not. I think sometimes you're up there on stage with a million things to think about and sometimes you might just forget.

JWS

02-08-2006, 12:47 PM

Sahara

02-08-2006, 12:56 PM

So true and so relevant it had to be posted three times. :rolleyes: :xoxo:

But seriously, it's not that big a deal. For crying out loud. I'm 16 and I don't remember what happened this morning. It's just a blur of swirling pixie dust and English class. :rolleyes: Then again, you know what too much tv does...

JWS

02-08-2006, 01:00 PM

. I'm 16 and I don't remember what happened this morning.

Gee. I guess that means you didn't see Fleetwood Mac on the 1977 Rumours tour!:lol:

DavidMn

02-08-2006, 01:08 PM

OK...after three times I get the message!:laugh:How the hell did that happen. Hold on lemme fix that.

Sahara

02-08-2006, 01:57 PM

Gee. I guess that means you didn't see Fleetwood Mac on the 1977 Rumours tour!:lol:

Nope, 'fraid not! I haven't ever seen them in concert ... YET!!

Stevie did play Dublin four days before I was born, though. Tis a sign. :thumbsup:

DavidMn

02-08-2006, 01:59 PM

MelbourneDodger

02-08-2006, 03:38 PM

Christ, the girl's pushing 60. She's entitled to forget things.

Not when a professional and you have thousands of people paying hundreds of dollars to watch you perform a good show.

estranged4life

02-08-2006, 04:01 PM

I was just about to say that. I'll be 43 in March and I even forget where I am at times LOL

I have a hardtime remembering anything nowadays (Thanks to neurological problems which are slowly worsening), except for music related info..."Isnt that weird?"

Jimbob "Brian j???" Billybob

JWS

02-08-2006, 04:03 PM

Not when a professional and you have thousands of people paying hundreds of dollars to watch you perform a good show.

I see your point. After all she is singing songs she herself wrote. She should be able to remember her own lyrics. And, as someone already pointed out..its the same songs over and over, year after year. Now if Stevie was singing songs written by others.....Anyway, I don't have a problem with her using the teleprompter.

Jyqm

02-08-2006, 04:05 PM

Not when a professional and you have thousands of people paying hundreds of dollars to watch you perform a good show.

Uh, hence the teleprompter. I'm guessing the folks who paid hundreds of dollars to be there would rather Stevie glance at a cheat sheet and give a good performance than have her stand up there and flub the words.

ragandbone

02-08-2006, 04:14 PM

Hmm, I didn't notice her having trouble "keeping up", in fact I was pleased to hear her taking her time with the song. I thought she was in really good voice, and I didn't realize she had forgotten any lyrics. This solo artist is a vocalist, and the band is there to accompany her- which they do very well!

Janis_no1

02-08-2006, 04:27 PM

What a crap thing to have printed! I've been scouring the papers the day after the medal hoping to see and article and photo...

what a shame that the newspaper have said this. She may of had a teleprompter, but i never saw her look down once! And what a load of bollix that she couldn't keep up with it! She sings it her style, obviously the journo doesn't know anything about her! :(

Sahara

02-08-2006, 04:35 PM

I'm surprissed you're only 16. Youre quite knowledgeable for someone your age.:thumbsup:

Aww ... you're so nice. Thanks! :xoxo:

I've only been a fan of the Mac about 2 years but I got obsessed REALLY fast ...

Sahara

02-08-2006, 04:36 PM

Uh, hence the teleprompter. I'm guessing the folks who paid hundreds of dollars to be there would rather Stevie glance at a cheat sheet and give a good performance than have her stand up there and flub the words.

I'm definitely with you on this one. I mean, what difference could a teleprompter possibly make to her performance apart from a positive one? :confused:

JazmenFlowers

02-08-2006, 04:52 PM

they're all morons anyway...teleprompters don't mean anything other than the fact that you are apt to rearrange verses and/or forget exactly which part comes next, especially when you have a habit of ad libbing as Stevie does...and especially at televised functions where time is money it's important

Barbra uses them as do many, many other singers most wouldn't believe

I mean, even our President uses them...well...that's another story ;)

Livia

02-08-2006, 05:03 PM

I mean, even our President uses them...well...that's another story ;)

And he still manages to screw up - even though his script is probably phonetic. "Nu-CLEE-ar." :laugh:

Yes, many performers use them, ALL the time. I think Stevie gets extra "fretted out" when she's on TV, and is probably really happy that it's there. And she's only human, everyone gets brain farts occasionally.

Janis_no1

02-08-2006, 05:04 PM

I can understand why she did, yes though its a bit strange for one song, BUT she would of been nervous as, the stage was right up over people , really close to the patrons, full of strangers faces in another country, no warm up, no fans, just stuck up there with a "start now" prompt. I agree that it is more of a security blanket... she doesn't have to worry coz just in case something happens to throw her off she knws thats there to help her out. Though i will say again, i never saw her look at it anyway! In facti have never seen her look at one, thats why i didn't even know she had one till recently!

Janis_no1

02-08-2006, 05:09 PM

And she's only human, everyone gets brain farts occasionally.

:laugh: :laugh: true!

danax6

02-08-2006, 05:10 PM

they're all morons anyway...teleprompters don't mean anything other than the fact that you are apt to rearrange verses and/or forget exactly which part comes next,You see, as many times as I have heard Stevie's songs, and as fluently as I can sing along with them when I am singing with her, sometimes when I am humming them to myself while driving, or singing them in the shower, I have to start over a few times because I forgot where I was, or what came next. And I am 23, not even near 60. :wavey:

JazmenFlowers

02-08-2006, 05:11 PM

You see, as many times as I have heard Stevie's songs, and as fluently as I can sing along with them when I am singing with her, sometimes when I am humming them to myself while driving, or singing them in the shower, I have to start over a few times because I forgot where I was, or what came next. And I am 23, not even near 60. :wavey:
see...

:lol:

steviefan59

02-08-2006, 05:45 PM

hi...can someone find out who wrote that stupid review? the link doesn't work now and i'd really like to know...thanks much...pat (long time fan)

Janet

02-08-2006, 06:45 PM

We have all seen her a million times. Altogether...all of us...thats hundreds...thousands of shows. Since she's been ok....like have any of us seen her mess up? I think not.

And I'm 28 and I forget things...but I know she didn't.

MelbourneDodger

02-08-2006, 06:48 PM

I mean, what difference could a teleprompter possibly make to her performance apart from a positive one? :confused:

* lack of a 'natural flow' of lyrics while singing the song

* concentrating on what line to sing distracts focus from pace of music

* no crowd interaction. I don't mean running around the stage slapping hands with the fans- more just looking out to all parts of the audience and the occasional smile to someone up close ('Working' the crowd)

* It's hard to dance while one is trying to read.

* no mingling with band mates on stage while singing (reading)

* as a fan, i would wonder how passionate she really is about her songs, concerts and overall 'craft' if she requires a telepromter (whether she uses it or not).
Whether this is a negative aspect or not is up to Stevie herself.

Janis_no1

02-08-2006, 08:49 PM

thats a fair post....

catinthedark

02-08-2006, 10:18 PM

We have all seen her a million times. Altogether...all of us...thats hundreds...thousands of shows. Since she's been ok....like have any of us seen her mess up? I think not.

tee hee. i have - and she knew it, too. i was front row, at her feet. she was singing whole lotta trouble - and she messed up the line, and i sang it right, and she heard me, and actually laughed and said, 'you got it right!" i almost died on the spot.

as for the whole prompter throwing off the flow, etc... i tihnk she has the prompter as a crutch - juuuust in case. i have seen her so many times, with the prompter, and the most i've ever seen her do is glance at it every so often. i wouldn't say it impedes her perfomance in any way.

Janis_no1

02-08-2006, 10:26 PM

tee hee. i have - and she knew it, too. i was front row, at her feet. she was singing whole lotta trouble - and she messed up the line, and i sang it right, and she heard me, and actually laughed and said, 'you got it right!" i almost died on the spot.

WOW! :eek:

I understand how you felt! MY god i would of too! Cool as Cat!

dontlookdown

02-08-2006, 10:41 PM

bob dylan and bruce springsteen and michael stipe have all used teleprompters on recent tours.

i would too after all these years!

who cares?!

ShangriLaTroubl

02-09-2006, 01:33 AM

I agree with what someone said, I think it's less about forgetting words, and more about losing your place from time to time, as most singers do now and then. It's there, just in case you stumble. She usually doesn't look at it, sometimes her eyes are closed, or looking nowhere in the direction--it's just there in case she needs it.

Chris

Jyqm

02-09-2006, 05:01 AM

* lack of a 'natural flow' of lyrics while singing the song

* concentrating on what line to sing distracts focus from pace of music

* no crowd interaction. I don't mean running around the stage slapping hands with the fans- more just looking out to all parts of the audience and the occasional smile to someone up close ('Working' the crowd)

* It's hard to dance while one is trying to read.

* no mingling with band mates on stage while singing (reading)

Again, she's not standing up there staring at a screen for the duration of every song. She uses it as an occasional safety net if she happens to be unsure of a particular line, as do many, many other artists.

* as a fan, i would wonder how passionate she really is about her songs, concerts and overall 'craft' if she requires a telepromter (whether she uses it or not).
Whether this is a negative aspect or not is up to Stevie herself.

That's your own prejudice, it's not the fault of Stevie. Do you question how passionate folks like Dylan and Springsteen are about their songs? Both of them put everything they've got into their concert performances, and both of them have been using lyric sheets or teleprompters for the past couple of years.

Sorcerer386

02-09-2006, 01:59 PM

Stevie has always been known to screw lyrics up. Two cases right off the top of my head are an Iowa concert from '87 in which she screws up the verses to Seven Wonders (although it was admittedly a new song), and she just blatantly stops and says to the audience, "That was a mistake!" Imagine if you had to do that on television! Then, at the millenium show, she screwed up Dreams, of all songs. Which leads me to THIS point that you have to consider. She has done Landslide, like Dreams, literally THOUSANDS of times by now. So, when you get completely comfortable with performing something, your mind can wander sometimes because it's so second nature to you. Then, all of the sudden you forget where you are and just mess up. I'm sure this has happened to other people. It's like missing an exit on your way to work...somewhere you go hundreds of times a year, and you miss it because you're so zoned out by the drive because you've done it so many times.

Sahara

02-09-2006, 03:43 PM

Again, she's not standing up there staring at a screen for the duration of every song. She uses it as an occasional safety net if she happens to be unsure of a particular line, as do many, many other artists.

I'm definitely with you on this one. It's a safety net, nothing more.

And catinthedark ... that is amazing. Wow. What an experience. I don't know how I would have reacted...:]