All We Are Saying

[Nightbird17]

Anyone heard of this documentary?

From Yahoo

Premise: Arquette, a self-professed lover of real music musicians sets out to find out how rockers balance their lives with art, their opinions on today's music and who inspires them. Artists, including Stevie Nicks, Sting, Steven Tyler, Mary J. Blige, Elton John, Peter Gabriel, and Joni Mitchell, provide all the answers

[UnwindedDreams]

Anyone heard of this documentary?

From Yahoo

Premise: Arquette, a self-professed lover of real music musicians sets out to find out how rockers balance their lives with art, their opinions on today's music and who inspires them. Artists, including Stevie Nicks, Sting, Steven Tyler, Mary J. Blige, Elton John, Peter Gabriel, and Joni Mitchell, provide all the answers
yes, I saw the trailer for it. Stevie says she couldn't be a half-ass mother and a half-ass rock star.

[DavidMn]

Anyone heard of this documentary?

From Yahoo

Premise: Arquette, a self-professed lover of real music musicians sets out to find out how rockers balance their lives with art, their opinions on today's music and who inspires them. Artists, including Stevie Nicks, Sting, Steven Tyler, Mary J. Blige, Elton John, Peter Gabriel, and Joni Mitchell, provide all the answersNo, I'd like to know when it was released.

[UnwindedDreams]

go to allwearesaying.net:)

[Jyqm]

yes, I saw the trailer for it. Stevie says she couldn't be a half-ass mother and a half-ass rock star.

Must... resist... obvious... jab...

[DavidMn]

Must... resist... obvious... jab...Back that ass up!!!:lol:

[Ghost_Tracker]

Must... resist... obvious... jab...


Strange, I usually try to defend her and I found myself thinking the same
thing. :rolleyes:

[MacMan]

I emailed Pilar Demann back in September asking if this doc that Rosanne produced was headed for dvd release.. the one Stevie takes part in.

[This was the response back then]

Thanks for your inquiry. We are in the process of making a TV deal and
working on several others for a hopeful small theatrical release as
well as DVD. Right now, the TV deal is firm. If you sign to the
website www.allwearesaying.net and register your name, you will
receive updates as to when the film is released.
Thank you
Pilar

[DavidMn]

I emailed Pilar Demann back in September asking if this doc that Rosanne produced was headed for dvd release.. the one Stevie takes part in.

[This was the response back then]

Thanks for your inquiry. We are in the process of making a TV deal and
working on several others for a hopeful small theatrical release as
well as DVD. Right now, the TV deal is firm. If you sign to the
website www.allwearesaying.net and register your name, you will
receive updates as to when the film is released.
Thank you
PilarU mean Roseanne Barr?

[MacMan]

U mean Roseanne Barr?

Yeah... That's the one:rolleyes:

[DavidMn]

Yeah... That's the one:rolleyes:You gotta be kidding me?:lol: That's just too bizarre. She mustve neede something to do huh?

[golddustorm]

I think you guys are being sarcastic and that you know it's not Roseanne Barr. But, just in case, I'll just mention that it's Roseanna Arquette.

[MacMan]

I think you guys are being sarcastic

Oh totally... I forgot an "a"

[DavidMn]

I think you guys are being sarcastic and that you know it's not Roseanne Barr. But, just in case, I'll just mention that it's Roseanna Arquette.Damn, you got it....:laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

anyone here have showtime, that can record this and youtube at least the stevie parts?

All We Are Saying Airs on Showtime March 8th at 8:00pm

Follow Rosanna Arquette as she explores the state of the music industry through casual, intimate conversations about the state of the art with such rock luminaries as Chrissie Hynde, Peter Gabriel, Thom Yorke, David Crosby, Sheryl Crow, Elton John, Annie Lennox, Sting, Joni Mitchell, Steven Tyler, Willie Nelson, Stevie Nicks and Elvis Costello.

[GODDESS6]

i am taping it, i don't have a dvd recorder or i would love to share~

[BTFLCHLD]

i am taping it, i don't have a dvd recorder or i would love to share~ well perhaps you could let us know whats discussed? that would really be appreciated Jill :xoxo:

[GODDESS6]

of course i will, i am dying to see this, i already have my cable guide timer set on all the t.v.'s in the house so it'll come on:] ~

[Livia]

Here's another article about it:


Arquette probes music biz blues in documentary
Staff and agencies
07 March, 2006




By Ray Richmond 33 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Rosanna Arquette doesn‘t exactly embody the image of the hardcore documentary filmmaker. She bops around in a cotton summer dress toting her little hand-held digital camera, asking her vast legion of famous friends and acquaintances how they feel about stuff with all the probing intensity of a butterfly. But her gentle, sunny disposition pays off in magical ways, disarming her subjects into the kind of unguarded candor they‘re rarely inspired to demonstrate.

It worked in Arquette‘s much-praised directorial debut, "Searching for Debra Winger ," which premiered on Showtime in 2002 as a clear-eyed discussion of ageism and sexism in Hollywood with the likes of Jane Fonda , Salma Hayek , Sharon Stone and numerous others. And Arquette does it again with the insightful, if overlong, Showtime project "All We Are Saying," a superb collection of interview snippets with a wide assortment of rock stars.

Posing more like the cheerleader she is than the journalist she isn‘t, producer-director Arquette uses fawning, almost groupielike reverence to her advantage to inspire the likes of Elvis Costello , Macy Gray , Stevie Nicks , Don Henley , Anthony Kiedis, Gwen Stefani , Sting, Peter Gabriel , Joni Mitchell , Mary J. Blige Mary J. Blige and Andre Benjamin. She gets them to open up about issues that actually mean something: the sad state of the music industry, how they strike a balance between life and career and what they do to remain creatively motivated in a business that‘s now more about how you look than how you sound.

Most of the artists captured here are icons from the 1960s, ‘70s and ‘80s, including Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart, Debbie Harry of Blondie, Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders, Nicks, Steven Tyler , Iggy Pop , Graham Nash and David Crosby and even Merle Haggard , with the occasional more recent act intermixed (Kid Rock, Thom Yorke of Radiohead, Serj Tankian from Stystem of a Down). The consistent theme is that MTV, downloading technology and conglomerate ownership have largely robbed recorded music of its soul and that the latest generation of artists have been forced to hawk style over craftsmanship.

But the film is far more than a bitching session about how the good ol‘ days have passed. There‘s some stereotype-busting, too: Hynde talking about wearing a nursing bra while rocking out onstage; Patti Smith discussing how being a parent is the most important job she has ever had; and Tom Petty and Elton John wistfully admitting that being on the road without someone you love makes for an unbearably lonely ride.

There are way too many shots of Arquette holding her little camera -- it‘s like, yes, we get it, she‘s recording this all on her own -- and she perhaps errs on the side of inclusion by using 56 interview subjects. Not all of them have interesting stuff to say, but therein lies one of the pitfalls of jabbering with people you share a connection with. You‘re reluctant to cut any of them out even if it would better serve the whole to do so. It also probably wouldn‘t have hurt to incorporate more new artists and fewer graybeards. Yet in the main, "All We Are Saying" is an illuminating piece of work that effectively conveys the filmmaker‘s optimistic energy.

Executive producers: Freddy DeMann, Pilar DeMann; Producers: Rosanna Arquette, Kristina Birkmayer; Associate producer: Paul Starr; Director: Rosanna Arquette; Directors of photography: Deverill Weekes, Rosanna Arquette; Editor: Gail Yasunaga; Music supervisor: Bryan Ray Turcotte, Nathan Ehrenfeld; Sound mixers: Janet Urban, Joe Hettinger.

Featuring: B-Real, Burt Bacharach , Andre Benjamin, Mary J. Blige, Boy George, Elvis Costello, David Crosby, Cheryl Crow, DJ Muggs, Dean DeLeo, Robert DeLeo, Perry Farrell , Flea, Bob Forrest, Peter Gabriel, Amanda Ghost , Alison Goldfrapp, Kim Gordon , Macy Gray, Will Gregory, Merle Haggard, Ben Harper , Debbie Harry, Don Henley, Mark Hudson, Chrissie Hynde, Iggy Pop, Jimmy Iovine, Elton John, Rickie Lee Jones , Maynard James Keenan, Kid Rock, Anthony Kiedis, Sean Lennon , Annie Lennox , Los Lonely Boys, Shelby Lynne , Marilyn Manson, Joni Mitchell, Thurston Moore , Graham Nash, Willie Nelson , Stevie Nicks, Yoko Ono , Beth Orton , Tom Petty, Chris Robinson , Patti Scialfa , Patti Smith, Gwen Stefani, Sting, Serj Tankian, Steven Tyler, will.i.am, Ann Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Thom Yorke.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

http://www.newsone.ca/westfallweeklynews/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=154004

[GODDESS6]

so far the show is great, they have showed stevie once so far, where she says she would of been a teacher if not for rock & that she likes to pass on advice & such to younger artists, such as michelle branch, & she said it is sad that music isn't about the "songwriting" anymore...~oooowww she's back~

[GODDESS6]

she is talking about her having a baby would break up FM & she would never do that, she also says, that she thought if she ever wanted a baby later on in life she could adopt~ she is saying about the half assed rock star thing, that she woulda felt bad saying to her kid, "sorry, i know you are in 2nd grade & love your school, but we have to go stay in new york", stevie says, she knew that would make her not be a good mother & that's no life for a child~

[GODDESS6]

stevie is saying that it is goofy that "they" FM & her & lindsey write songs about ea other still~ she said lindsey has been wrking on a album for 2 yrs & most of the songs are about her & that she has beeen writing songs for 2 years & the songs are about lindsey~ she said she & lindsey are musical soulmates & that, that isn't always good cuz they get mad & don't talk for 2-3 concerts, but always get over it~ she said that'll it will always be that way & it has been that way between them since 1968~ she also has a small piece at the end where she says when asked what you wanna be ,always say "rockstar"~ if you can watch it guys, it was way worth it, the whole thing was fabulous!!!~ i hope someone recorded it on dvd, i must have a copy:wavey: ~

[BTFLCHLD]

jill ty you soooo much for every lil detail!
youre THE BEST! :xoxo: :xoxo:

[Kelly]

At least she is finally admitting that most of her songs are about him. :laugh: Of course they write about each other, but it is cool to hear her finally admit that Lindsey writes about her as well. :woohoo:

Thanks for the recap Jill. :thumbsup:

[GODDESS6]

no prob!!!~ the whole thing was awesome, the hubby & i watched the re-airing later that night & even he was enthralled, there are so many artists that she rosanna (*sp) gets to talk w/ & it is so interesting to hear the differences in opinions~ VERY COOL show!!!~

[gldstwmn]

I found myself mostly bored with this doc. :sorry: The only interesting parts to me where when they showed Sean Lennon in the studio. Yoko Ono tells Arquette she can ask her anything but Arquette fails to follow up. It just seemed like a bunch of rock star sound bites to me. And Stevie's segments are certainly less than illuminating although her surroundings certainly looked interesting.
I enjoyed Burt Bacharach as well. Fabulous print on his wall and I love the fact that his music room is messy.
David Crosby's crack about being owned by a French water company is pretty funny too.

[SapphireSister]

I finally got around to watching this in it's entirety at about about 2 am last night (I recorded it but only on VCR otherwise I'd really like to share). I found parts of it to be boring but over all very enlightening. There were several themes going. The was one about the state of music today and rock and roll's effect on it (downloading, etc), another about children and the balancing of family and career, a part about inspiration and songwriting, and a part about life on the road and staying faithful (wish Stevie would have commented on this part).

Some people particularly stood out and it was fascinating to here these people's perspectives. They really live a completely different lifestyle than you and I and I found some of their answers to be really spacey and out there but after all they are artists. Iggy Pop was great, Patty Smith very relatable and thorough and I loved David Crosby. What a great guy! Mary J. Blige was also very honest and deep about her past struggles and I appreciated her positive message.

Stevie did not say anything that stood out to me except the usual "Fleetwood Mac would have broken up if I had a child". Bullshit Stevie...

What I found the most interesting is that Debbie Harry (who also chose to not have children) gave a much more honest and rational reason in my opinion. She said she was a child and did not have the emotional maturity to raise a kid at the time and that now she still regrets sometimes that she didn't have children but could always adapt. I wish Stevie would say something more to this affect because I think it was true for her as well. The partying lifestyle she led in the 70's and 80's was not exactly conducive to raising a child and I wish she would just cop to this and say I was too selfish and didn't want to give that part of my life up instead of the whole "I could not be a half assed rock star and half ass mother". Given some of what she says could be true but if she really wanted to do both I believe in my heart she could have. Sure she would have had to give a little of her career up but not all of it. Just freakin admit your career was more important to you woman!

The bit about her and Lindsey still writing songs about eachother - I'd like to know when the last time she wrote a song about Lindsey is since she claims to have only written one song in the last year. :rolleyes:

Anyway it's worth watching. They are showing it again over the next few weeks and I highly recommend it.

[strandinthewind]

I think La Nicks implies if not states that her career was more important when she says she did not want to be a half a$$ed mom and she did not want to stop singing, etc. I mean what else could that mean?

[SapphireSister]

I think La Nicks implies if not states that her career was more important when she says she did not want to be a half a$$ed mom and she did not want to stop singing, etc. I mean what else could that mean?

I know that's what she means when she talks about this repeatedly but it almost comes off as an excuse as to why she didn't have children as opposed to an honest to God reason like Debbie said (did you hear Debbie's response?). It's like she needs to make excuses to herself and the press instead of just saying "I was selfish and didn't want to give up ANY of my career or partying ways." Something about it just irks me, like she's not taking responsibility for her decision and still has issues with her choice.

Oh and I didn't like the whole "FM would have broken up if I had kids". BS, plenty of female rock stars in bands have had kids and the bands didn't break up. Mick had kids back then and the band still stayed together. Another excuse that could have some amount of truth but again, an exagerration IMO.

[strandinthewind]

. . . It's like she needs to make excuses to herself and the press instead of just saying "I was selfish and didn't want to give up ANY of my career or partying ways." Something about it just irks me, like she's not taking responsibility for her decision and still has issues with her choice . . . .

See, I do not see it as a selfish thing in that she made a choice for the benefit of the child. In other words, she says she thought the child would suffer from her absence, so she opted not to have one, which to me is different than saying screw it, I want to party. I mean she could have had a child up until say 2000, which was long after the partying days. Interestingly, in older interviews, she talks about retiring and having kids, which we now know never happened.

But, to each their own :cool:

[Boots]

I don't know what anyone here expects from Stevie when she discusses not having children. She is basically implying that her life of fame and rock and roll and partying and touring are all enveloped into a selfishness that she couldn't inflict upon a child...hence her not having any. The only person who had kids during the height of FM's success was Mick, and he cocked that up tremendously...he never saw them, his marriage and sexual proclivities were a mess. Don't you think that Stevie witnessed as well as lived that life and came to the conclusion that she couldn't do this to a kid? Or that she couldn't take a child away from school and friends so that Mommy could go to Australia for a tour, or go to Europe to support an album? It happened to her when she was a child, but her dad was a company executive. She probably didn't want her kid to be so uprooted like she was AND have this insane celebrity life too.

It's also pretty unfair to denounce her statements that she couldn't have kids while with Fleetwood Mac claiming, that assuming that wanted to party too much to have them. As mentioned, Christine didn't have children either, and her partying ways weren't of the same level as Stevie's. Also, Lindsey didn't have kids until very much later in life himself, and that's only because he's a man and his "boys" can still swim past a certain age. Same thing with John. He didn't have kids until the FM craziness died down. Mick was the only one with kids, and again, as mentioned...his lifestyle - selfish or not (and there is an element of selfishness in how we chose our lives) wasn't so great on them.

Give the lady credit. This was a personal decision by her, and I as a fan have no right to tell her why she didn't want to bring kids into this world.

[carrie721]

I don't know what anyone here expects from Stevie when she discusses not having children. She is basically implying quite obviously that she didn't want to take her kids out of schools (as she was as a child), because of the insanity of her life, and the fact that her career obligations and travel were too intense for her to have children.

It's also pretty unfair to denounce her statements that she couldn't have kids while with Fleetwood Mac claiming, that assuming that wanted to party too much to have them. Christine didn't have children either, and her partying ways weren't of the same level as Stevie's. Also, Lindsey didn't have kids until very much later in life himself, and that's only because he's a man and his "boys" can still swim past a certain age. Same thing with John. He didn't have kids until the FM craziness died down. Mick was the only one with kids, and he beats himself on the head for how little time and attention he paid to them because of FM's touring and commitments. Don't cha think that Stevie would have observed that and realized she couldn't do that to her own kids?

Give the lady credit. This was a personal decision by her, and I as a fan have no right to tell her why she didn't want to bring kids into this world.

sometimes i'm stunned by the things you say because it seems as if you take the words straight from my brain! i'm glad to see an opinion i agree with in this discussion without having to expend the energy to type it out myself :laugh:

[SapphireSister]

See, I do not see it as a selfish thing in that she made a choice for the benefit of the child. In other words, she says she thought the child would suffer from her absence, so she opted not to have one, which to me is different than saying screw it, I want to party. I mean she could have had a child up until say 2000, which was long after the partying days. Interestingly, in older interviews, she talks about retiring and having kids, which we now know never happened.

But, to each their own :cool:

Yes, what you are saying make sense and even though I've always taken issue with Stevie's response to why she opted not to have kids after this documentary I have to say I understand it a little more. Maybe she was actually being very unselfish in saying she wouldn't have been able to give her child the life it deserved is she continued being a rock star and that's perfectly understandable (although I still contend there are plenty of rock stars who have been wonderful parents). A lot of the artists that were featured said you really do have to make a choice and give up a whole lot to have kids with this life and she obviously didn't want to do that. Maybe I'm just sick of hearing her say the same thing over and over lol.

[Boots]

sometimes i'm stunned by the things you say because it seems as if you take the words straight from my brain! i'm glad to see an opinion i agree with in this discussion without having to expend the energy to type it out myself :laugh:

Thanks, Carrie! :lol: I worry that I sound too harsh, but I guess that's the only way I can get my point across.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

me too (hearing the same thing that is) :laugh:

Also, if you factor in that she had at least one abortion (self admitted) - she really made that choice, which to me is sad and lonely.

[SapphireSister]

I don't know what anyone here expects from Stevie when she discusses not having children. She is basically implying that her life of fame and rock and roll and partying and touring are all enveloped into a selfishness that she couldn't inflict upon a child...hence her not having any. The only person who had kids during the height of FM's success was Mick, and he cocked that up tremendously...he never saw them, his marriage and sexual proclivities were a mess. Don't you think that Stevie witnessed as well as lived that life and came to the conclusion that she couldn't do this to a kid? Or that she couldn't take a child away from school and friends so that Mommy could go to Australia for a tour, or go to Europe to support an album? It happened to her when she was a child, but her dad was a company executive. She probably didn't want her kid to be so uprooted like she was AND have this insane celebrity life too.

It's also pretty unfair to denounce her statements that she couldn't have kids while with Fleetwood Mac claiming, that assuming that wanted to party too much to have them. As mentioned, Christine didn't have children either, and her partying ways weren't of the same level as Stevie's. Also, Lindsey didn't have kids until very much later in life himself, and that's only because he's a man and his "boys" can still swim past a certain age. Same thing with John. He didn't have kids until the FM craziness died down. Mick was the only one with kids, and again, as mentioned...his lifestyle - selfish or not (and there is an element of selfishness in how we chose our lives) wasn't so great on them.

Give the lady credit. This was a personal decision by her, and I as a fan have no right to tell her why she didn't want to bring kids into this world.

Thanks for that Boots, this is why I love discussion boards. I'm always open to hearing perspectives that differ from mine and and willing to be open minded, especially when it comes to Stevie. You have made a lot of good points here and I will definitely take these into consideration. I also hope you can at least see where I'm coming from even if you don't totally agree.

She is basically implying that her life of fame and rock and roll and partying and touring are all enveloped into a selfishness that she couldn't inflict upon a child
I guess I just wish she would come out and say something more along those lines instead of "I couldn't have had this career and children".

[David]

See, I do not see it as a selfish thing in that she made a choice for the benefit of the child.I don't think she was being selfish, either. What makes me groan is the stance she adopts in discussing her decision: she paints herself as this tragic, martyred figure, like a character in a romance novel -- "I sacrificed all for my art"

She gets off on thinking of herself as a Tosca, whose big aria goes:

Vissi d'arte, vissi d'amore
non feci mai male ad anima viva
Con man furtiva
quante miserie conobbi, aiutai
Sempre con fe sincera
la mia preghiera
ai santi tabernacoli sali
Sempre con fe sincera
diedi fiori agli altar

I lived for art, I lived for love
Never did I harm a living creature!
Whatever misfortunes I encountered
I sought with secret hand to succour
Ever in pure faith
my prayers rose
in the holy chapels
Ever in pure faith
I brought flowers to the altars
in this hour of pain

That's why critics call Stevie a self-important, narcissistic figure.

[strandinthewind]

"O Scarpia, avanti a Dio . . . "

O Scarpia, today in front of God we will both be judged for our sins.

Monsarrat Caballe's Tosca was indeed sublime.

[SapphireSister]

I don't think she was being selfish, either. What makes me groan is the stance she adopts in discussing her decision: she paints herself as this tragic, martyred figure, like a character in a romance novel -- "I sacrificed all for my art"


YES, exactly! That's what I'm saying, that is what bothers me most. The stance she adopts and the "great sacrifce" she made for her art, in turn making her look very self-important.

[gldstwmn]

IWhat I found the most interesting is that Debbie Harry (who also chose to not have children) gave a much more honest and rational reason in my opinion. She said she was a child and did not have the emotional maturity to raise a kid at the time and that now she still regrets sometimes that she didn't have children but could always adapt.

I thought Debbie's response was right on.

[JazmenFlowers]

I just watched this on Showtime and Stevie looked fabulous. I wish the camera angles would have been more of a direct shot, but she looked incredible, as did Debbie Harry.

[BlackWidow]

Must... resist... obvious... jab...
I KNOW..ME TOO...:lol:

[BlackWidow]

I don't think she was being selfish, either. What makes me groan is the stance she adopts in discussing her decision: she paints herself as this tragic, martyred figure, like a character in a romance novel -- "I sacrificed all for my art"

She gets off on thinking of herself as a Tosca, whose big aria goes:

Vissi d'arte, vissi d'amore
non feci mai male ad anima viva
Con man furtiva
quante miserie conobbi, aiutai
Sempre con fe sincera
la mia preghiera
ai santi tabernacoli sali
Sempre con fe sincera
diedi fiori agli altar

I lived for art, I lived for love
Never did I harm a living creature!
Whatever misfortunes I encountered
I sought with secret hand to succour
Ever in pure faith
my prayers rose
in the holy chapels
Ever in pure faith
I brought flowers to the altars
in this hour of pain


That's why critics call Stevie a self-important, narcissistic figure.
SO TRUE!!!!!

[paperflowers]

I know that's what she means when she talks about this repeatedly but it almost comes off as an excuse as to why she didn't have children as opposed to an honest to God reason like Debbie said (did you hear Debbie's response?). It's like she needs to make excuses to herself and the press instead of just saying "I was selfish and didn't want to give up ANY of my career or partying ways." Something about it just irks me, like she's not taking responsibility for her decision and still has issues with her choice.

Oh and I didn't like the whole "FM would have broken up if I had kids". BS, plenty of female rock stars in bands have had kids and the bands didn't break up. Mick had kids back then and the band still stayed together. Another excuse that could have some amount of truth but again, an exagerration IMO.

She gives the same speech because every interviewer asks the same damn question.
Would FM have broken up if she got pregnant? Well Chris never had a kid , maybe there is something to it. Sharon never had a kid, Lori did and stopped going on the road. Look at who Stevie hangs around with, in her circle baby= no music career. That is her reality. To me Stevie Nicks is an all or nothing kinda chick, thats just her way.
Stevie choose not to raise a family that is not selfish ,she like every woman should be able to make that decision and she really shouldn't have to justify it.
Yes, Mick had children and sorry but its not the same for a guy it just isn't. Even he admits he didn't spend the time he should have with them (I'm talking about the kids from his first marriage here) and he regrets it. I believe his children spent most of thier childhood on another continent than him. Perhaps Stevie noted that also maybe to her it was another example of why it is'nt a good idea for her to have kids. Heck Lindsey was back out on the road within weeks of the birth of his youngest. For a woman it is not the same there would be outrage, scandal, and above all guilt.

I'm tired of the "I did it for my band" speech also, but I don't blame her as much as the unimaginative interviewers who don't press the issue or ask the question is a new way. Look at the Sandra Burnhart (sp?) interview. Sandra knew her subject and she got a "more" honest answer from Stevie, at least it was off the cuff and not the same rote speech.

I think the truth is more like Stevie kinda sorta planned on having a child but it was not high on her priority list, somewhere behind the Rhiannon movie and her book, and then "all of a sudden" it was too late. I really do not think she pines over it either. I think she is totally fine with being just what she is, the crazycoolfairygodmotherrockandrolldivabitch that we love.

[SapphireSister]

She gives the same speech because every interviewer asks the same damn question.
Would FM have broken up if she got pregnant? Well Chris never had a kid , maybe there is something to it. Sharon never had a kid, Lori did and stopped going on the road. Look at who Stevie hangs around with, in her circle baby= no music career. That is her reality. To me Stevie Nicks is an all or nothing kinda chick, thats just her way.
Stevie choose not to raise a family that is not selfish ,she like every woman should be able to make that decision and she really shouldn't have to justify it.
Yes, Mick had children and sorry but its not the same for a guy it just isn't. Even he admits he didn't spend the time he should have with them (I'm talking about the kids from his first marriage here) and he regrets it. I believe his children spent most of thier childhood on another continent than him. Perhaps Stevie noted that also maybe to her it was another example of why it is'nt a good idea for her to have kids. Heck Lindsey was back out on the road within weeks of the birth of his youngest. For a woman it is not the same there would be outrage, scandal, and above all guilt.

I'm tired of the "I did it for my band" speech also, but I don't blame her as much as the unimaginative interviewers who don't press the issue or ask the question is a new way. Look at the Sandra Burnhart (sp?) interview. Sandra knew her subject and she got a "more" honest answer from Stevie, at least it was off the cuff and not the same rote speech.

I think the truth is more like Stevie kinda sorta planned on having a child but it was not high on her priority list, somewhere behind the Rhiannon movie and her book, and then "all of a sudden" it was too late. I really do not think she pines over it either. I think she is totally fine with being just what she is, the crazycoolfairygodmotherrockandrolldivabitch that we love.

Great post and I definitely here what you are saying loud and clear. After this discussion I have reconsidered my take on her whole reason for not having kids bit and am more open to just accepting what she says as the truth. To be honest I'm probably just tired of hearing the same response over and over and you are right, it's the interviewers' fault for repeating the same question. Besides, why is it such a big deal for a woman not to have children? Children are not for everyone and the sad part is a lot of people have kids that should just not be parents. Leave the woman alone already and anybody else for that matter who chooses not to have children.
I think it was Patty Smith in the movie who said you definitely have to be willing to give a part of yourself up if you want to have children and continue to lead the musicians' lifestyle and I also think it's different for different people. Stevie, for example, pretty much had 2 music careers (one solo and one FM) and not many female musicians were in this same boat. From 1975-1989 which were the prime years for her to have children she was either touring or recording practically every year so I see no time to raise a child.
Thanks everybody for showing me another side to this although I'm still a bit torn.

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Paperflowers! Beautiful post! Amen and kudos! :wavey:

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She gives the same speech because every interviewer asks the same damn question.

I'm tired of the "I did it for my band" speech also, but I don't blame her as much as the unimaginative interviewers who don't press the issue or ask the question is a new way.
Yes, I think unimaginative interviewers are partly to blame. It also sounds like some of you would bristle less at her response if she said "I did it for my band", and then added "I did the band for ME"
I think it might be a nice testament to her relationship with her own mother that she could only imagine a kind of mothering with the same level of involvement.

She might regret not having kids sometimes. And then the rest of the time she is remembering high times (chemical and other) as a rock and roll queen. Don't we know those kinds of regrets are all bundled into getting older?

Selfishness, I think is not only the domain of the childless-by-choice, there are so many reasons to have or not have children.

Women rockers have this question of whether or not to mother in front of them while some of their male counterparts have left litters of supermodel babies across the globe.

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Paperflowers! Beautiful post! Amen and kudos! :wavey:


Thankyou :wavey:

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Yes, I think unimaginative interviewers are partly to blame. It also sounds like some of you would bristle less at her response if she said "I did it for my band", and then added "I did the band for ME"
I think it might be a nice testament to her relationship with her own mother that she could only imagine a kind of mothering with the same level of involvement.

She might regret not having kids sometimes. And then the rest of the time she is remembering high times (chemical and other) as a rock and roll queen. Don't we know those kinds of regrets are all bundled into getting older?

Selfishness, I think is not only the domain of the childless-by-choice, there are so many reasons to have or not have children.

Women rockers have this question of whether or not to mother in front of them while some of their male counterparts have left litters of supermodel babies across the globe.

I still say that Stevie is fine however watching Mick and Lindsey have these kids late in life she has to have a pang every now and then of the unfairness. Or maybe she thinks omg u guys ur gonna be in ur 70's and have teenagers......yeah no thanks!