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Ghost_Tracker

12-07-2005, 11:15 AM

Okay so here's a question that I've been meaning to ask for awhile -
Does anyone else besides me have trouble telling when it's Lindsey
singing and when it's Stevie singing, on the album "Tusk?"
I know that he spent a lot of time in the studio on it in
post-production - Arranging it and all that - is it possible
that there were places where he took out Stevie's voice
and replaced it with his own? For example at the end of
"Beautiful Child" it's clearly him singing,
"I'M not a child any-more,
I'M not a child, any-more."

There seem to me to be several other places where at first blush it sounds like Stevie, but is really Lindsey, and vice-verse.
Remember, this was "back in the day" when things were - uhm - errr - "bumpy" between them.

Anyone have any insights or opinions?

DavidMn

12-07-2005, 11:25 AM

Personally I don't see him being THAT vindictive to pull something like that intentionally, but that's just me.

cliffdweller

12-07-2005, 11:31 AM

For example at the end of
"Beautiful Child" it's clearly him singing,
"I'M not a child any-more,
I'M not a child, any-more."

:laugh: Ha! That's true, he DOES sound like Stevie there. I read someone's comment in an article somewhere that Lindsey Buckingham was DESTINED to sing in a band full of women because of his high voice. Truer words were never spoken. I think it's funny how Christine is the "bass" in that 3-part harmony! But I guess Stevie is now. Maybe we should have a poll, "Which lady of Fleetwood Mac has the deeper voice these days?" :laugh:.

ontheEdgeof17

12-07-2005, 11:32 AM

I think it's funny how Christine is the "bass" in that 3-part harmony! :laugh:.

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:

JazmenFlowers

12-07-2005, 11:35 AM

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:
LMAO...:wink:

cliffdweller

12-07-2005, 11:37 AM

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:

D'oh! :eek::laugh:

Josh2003

12-07-2005, 11:49 AM

I thought for the longest time that Stevie was singing on "The Ledge" until I listened closely and realized that its just Lindsey.

Kelly

12-07-2005, 01:23 PM

Stevie talked about how similar both she and LB sound at times during TISL as well. She said that her voice speeded up..(or slowed down?) sounded like Lindsey and that LIndseys voice slowed down..(or speeded up, I cannot remember which way it was) sounds just like her. Stevie commented that it "was spooky" or "freaky" or something like that. :blob1:

I have a hard time telling them apart in some of the Fritz stuff. They sound perfect together though. :o

skcin

12-07-2005, 01:27 PM

At first, I though it was LB singing that second "I knew you would" in Angel. :nod:

jannieC

12-07-2005, 02:18 PM

At first, I though it was LB singing that second "I knew you would" in Angel. :nod:
Is it not? :confused:

skcin

12-07-2005, 02:28 PM

Is it not? :confused:

I've listened really hard many times & I'm almost sure it's Stevie. :shrug:

Johnny Stew

12-07-2005, 02:40 PM

is it possible that there were places where he took out Stevie's voice and replaced it with his own? For example at the end of "Beautiful Child" it's clearly him singing,
"I'M not a child any-more,
I'M not a child, any-more."It's just the conclusion of the vocal lines he and Christine were already singing as Stevie vamped the end lyrics, and during the part you cited, Stevie's (faintly) singing "ohhh.... ahhhh" alongside Christine & Lindsey's backing vocals.

No conspiracy there, just bringing the song to its natural conclusion. :)

JazmenFlowers

12-07-2005, 02:49 PM

It's just the conclusion of the vocal lines he and Christine were already singing as Stevie vamped the end lyrics, and during the part you cited, Stevie's (faintly) singing "ohhh.... ahhhh" alongside Christine & Lindsey's backing vocals.

No conspiracy there, just bringing the song to its natural conclusion. :)
to me, this ending is the absolute best showing of those three voices and the pure perfection they create...

...aside from Honey Hi

Johnny Stew

12-07-2005, 02:52 PM

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:You're gonna get a spankin'! ;)

CreepingDeath

12-07-2005, 03:29 PM

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:

Oh, Curtis how I love thee.

David

12-07-2005, 03:52 PM

I thought for the longest time that Stevie was singing on "The Ledge" until I listened closely and realized that its just Lindsey.I thought for the longest time that Stevie was singing on "The Ledge" until I heard Lindsey explain that several tracks, including that one, were essentially all him vocally & even instrumentally.

People yammer about how Lindsey tried to make this song or that song sound like Stevie. I think what he was partially trying to do was to make some of these songs -- at least some of the vocal harmonic textures -- sound like Fleetwood Mac (a sound that, by the way, he played a pretty big role in creating).

Also, it was mentioned awhile back that Lindsey was working on arrangements during post-production. I don't think that's possible, by virtue of the definition of both "arrangement" & "post-production." If you're still working on vocal arrangements (or even instrumental arrangements), you're ipso facto not in post-production. You're still in ----- production. Post-production is stuff like mastering, acetates, sleeve/jacket design, marketing ploys, &c., ain't that right? It certainly doesn't include aspects of recording, unless you're talking about a live album, where the recording of the concert itself is the equivalent of the production, & overdubs could be considered post-production. But even with that, I'm dubious. If you're recording tracks, you're in production. Period.

Sahara

12-07-2005, 03:52 PM

David

12-07-2005, 03:53 PM

I've listened really hard many times & I'm almost sure it's Stevie. :shrug:It kinda sounds like Lindsey there, Paula.

didn't Jim Ladd bring that up with Lindsey during the 1979 Innerview? Anyone have that handy?

jannieC

12-07-2005, 08:16 PM

I've always had a harder time distinguishing between Lindsey and Christine's voice. Now I need to go listen to Angel again...:laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

12-07-2005, 08:20 PM

Well...she does have the biggest Adam's Apple out of the bunch. :wavey:

OMG!!!!

This is why I never venture over the Stevieland!!!!

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Brwn_eyes0511

12-07-2005, 08:21 PM

to me, this ending is the absolute best showing of those three voices and the pure perfection they create...

...aside from Honey Hi

I think Never Forget is a good example of this as well.

ontheEdgeof17

12-07-2005, 08:58 PM

OMG!!!!

This is why I never venture over the Stevieland!!!!

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Then get your ass out.

michelle2677

12-07-2005, 09:49 PM

Woooow, that's deep!

Just listened to it, I think that it is him singing that part mostly, but I guess we'll never know if it was intentional ... Tusk is an odd album

As for the Stevie/Lindsey similarity and the high voice thing, well, I for several months believed that it was Stevie singing the chorus on Come.

:distress:

are you talking about the "cuz noooobody else is doin' it...." ???? that IS stevie isnt' it?? I mean, I know Liddy sang that part during concerts, but I thought it was her on the record.

David

12-07-2005, 10:12 PM

are you talking about the "cuz noooobody else is doin' it...." ???? that IS stevie isnt' it?? I mean, I know Liddy sang that part during concerts, but I thought it was her on the record.Uhh...I don't think so. I think Lindsey or somebody said that Stevie wasn't ... uhh ... keen on that song, & did not put a vocal track on it.

My Say You Will recording lore is practically forgotten already.

michelle2677

12-07-2005, 10:18 PM

Uhh...I don't think so. I think Lindsey or somebody said that Stevie wasn't ... uhh ... keen on that song, & did not put a vocal track on it.

My Say You Will recording lore is practically forgotten already.

OMG...you seriously could have just knocked me over with a feather just then. It's gonna take awhile to get over this one. I would have bet my house on it. "Would have" being the key words. OMG.....

Ghost_Tracker

12-07-2005, 10:23 PM

Uhh...I don't think so. I think Lindsey or somebody said that Stevie wasn't ... uhh ... keen on that song, & did not put a vocal track on it.

My Say You Will recording lore is practically forgotten already.

Interesting how she leaves the stage at that point in "Live in Boston."
Presumably she's Off Pouting Somewhere. :nod:
Although these days I bet it's more like she's checking out her stocks on
cnbc and putting her feet up for a few
to take a breather. :shocked: :rolleyes:

Jyqm

12-08-2005, 01:57 AM

are you talking about the "cuz noooobody else is doin' it...." ???? that IS stevie isnt' it?? I mean, I know Liddy sang that part during concerts, but I thought it was her on the record.

No way. I don't recall the Gift of Screws track being any different from the Say You Will track, at least vocally. When's the last time Stevie sang any notes like that?

michelle2677

12-08-2005, 08:20 AM

No way. I don't recall the Gift of Screws track being any different from the Say You Will track, at least vocally. When's the last time Stevie sang any notes like that?

well..I have never heard the Gift of Screws track, so....

and I have never heard ol' Liddy do any notes like that either!!!

Sahara

12-08-2005, 06:27 PM

No, it's definitely him on the record ... Incredible, huh?

Story goes that Stevie didn't like the song, she thought it was too sexually explicit [or something] and that she didn't want it on the album, let alone on the set list...

I think it was a costume change for her during that song on the tour, on Live in Boston, Gypsy comes right after it and she's wearing something different.

But the Gift of Screws version is the exact same as the SYW one.

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 06:30 PM

Then get your ass out.
What happened to ignore...hmmmm :lol:

ontheEdgeof17

12-08-2005, 06:39 PM

What happened to ignore...hmmmm :lol:

What happened to never posting again?

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 06:57 PM

What happened to never posting again?

In that specific thread...

I don't think I ever did. :shrug:

ontheEdgeof17

12-08-2005, 09:32 PM

In that specific thread...

I don't think I ever did. :shrug:

Ya Did cuz there was a lot of us that were very happy. :)

Brwn_eyes0511

12-08-2005, 09:45 PM

Ya Did cuz there was a lot of us that were very happy. :)

Not sure I know what you are talkin about...

ontheEdgeof17

12-08-2005, 11:53 PM

Not sure I know what you are talkin about...

It means we were happy you were not going to post anymore.

BTFLCHLD

12-09-2005, 12:12 AM

What happened to never posting again? strand told him to grow a sac...and he disappeared for five whole days!:lol:

Brwn_eyes0511

12-09-2005, 12:57 AM

It means we were happy you were not going to post anymore.

Oh come now, you know me well enough to AT LEAST know I would never give you that satisfaction!

You missed the point of the post above. I DID say that but I was simply referring to that thread, not the whole ledge...however I do have to say that if I had chosen to leave all together, I wouldn't have been missing much in the past few little months.

Brwn_eyes0511

12-09-2005, 01:00 AM

strand told him to grow a sac...and he disappeared for five whole days!:lol:

Yes, because we all know how easily intimidated I am. :rolleyes:

Besides, I had to go out and get miracle grow! :eek: :D :laugh:

BTFLCHLD

12-09-2005, 01:06 AM

Besides, I had to go out and get miracle grow! :eek: :D :laugh:
your own little chiapets...
bet you have fun w/those

Brwn_eyes0511

12-09-2005, 01:31 AM

your own little chiapets...
bet you have fun w/those

oh... lots dear! :p

Chi Chi Chi...Chia!

<img src="http://www.as-seen-on-tv-now.com/lawn-and-garden-store/chiapig.jpg">

BTFLCHLD

12-09-2005, 01:41 AM

<img src="http://www.as-seen-on-tv-now.com/lawn-and-garden-store/chiapig.jpg"> your eyes deceive you...
im thinking more along these lines...
<img src="http://tinypic.com/id7ghy.jpg" alt="Image hosted by TinyPic.com">

Brwn_eyes0511

12-09-2005, 01:45 AM

your eyes deceive you...
im thinking more along these lines...
<img src="http://tinypic.com/id7ghy.jpg" alt="Image hosted by TinyPic.com">

:laugh: Very good...

well...even if it were...it wouldn't really matter...Legs up.

BTFLCHLD

12-09-2005, 02:10 AM

:laugh: Very good...

well...even if it were...it wouldn't really matter...Legs up.
:eek: :shocked:

Brwn_eyes0511

12-09-2005, 02:33 AM

:eek: :shocked:

<img src="http://www.expatica.com/photos/radF935D.jpg">

Do I shock you, darling?

:laugh: