No mention of Bat Mitzvah debacle on Nicks Fix

[BombaySapphire3]

I find it rather interesting that the Nicks Fix , which usually is up on the tiniest mention or appearance of Stevie has no info whatsoever on this event.Whenever Stevie would do private shows in the past even if it was a shoe salesman convention details would be posted .The Bat Mitzvah even made CNN and still nothing?:shrug: This is getting kind of thick.

[DavidMn]

I find it rather interesting that the Nicks Fix , which usually is up on the tiniest mention or appearance of Stevie has no info whatsoever on this event.Whenever Stevie would do private shows in the past even if it was a shoe salesman convention details would be posted .The Bat Mitzvah even made CNN and still nothing?:shrug: This is getting kind of thick.Hmm, I wonder if John was told not to say anything?

[BombaySapphire3]

Hmm, I wonder if John was told not to say anything?
If so that could mean some kind of damage control effort is underway.The best damage control IMO would be the channeling of the pay for this event to a charitable organization .So far nothing on that either.

[Richard B]

Speaking of the Nicksfix...it's just not as cool as it once was. There are so many better fan sites than the "official" website. Of course this was back before everyone realized just how easy it is to create a website.

[DavidMn]

If so that could mean some kind of damage control effort is underway.The best damage control IMO would be the channeling of the pay for this event to a charitable organization .So far nothing on that either.Well, I find that interesting becasue I find it hard to believe that Stevie or her people would be naive enough to think this wouldnt get out.

[DavidMn]

Speaking of the Nicksfix...it's just not as cool as it once was. There are so many better fan sites than the "official" website. Of course this was back before everyone realized just how easy it is to create a website.Yeah, even I dont go there much anymore.

[BombaySapphire3]

Well, I find that interesting becasue I find it hard to believe that Stevie or her people would be naive enough to think this wouldnt get out.
I'm sure they are well aware it has gotten out and in a big way .It was on CNN just yesterday.By not mentioning it it just seems as if they want no more attention drawn to it.Like I said why post even the most obscure bit of Stevie related news or reference but nothing about a show that included her Petty and Henley and that has recieved national media commentary?

[DavidMn]

I'm sure they are well aware it has gotten out and in a big way .It was on CNN just yesterday.By not mentioning it it just seems as if they want no more attention drawn to it.Like I said why post even the most obscure bit of Stevie related news or reference but nothing about a show that included her Petty and Henley and that has recieved national media commentary?Yes, good point there.:nod:

[jannieC]

Someone should send it to the Nicksfix and see if it gets posted. Obviously they *know* about the event, VERY interesting it's not being posted there.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Someone should send it to the Nicksfix and see if it gets posted. Obviously they *know* about the event, VERY interesting it's not being posted there.


Maybe they are like me....they don't care about the event. :shrug:

[BombaySapphire3]

Maybe they are like me....they don't care about the event. :shrug:
Don't want to acknowledge it is more like it.It was a big enough event with enough coverage to more than merit a mention.It appears conspicuous in it's absence there to me.

[Rickypt]

Maybe they are like me....they don't care about the event. :shrug:

You may not care about it, but certainly the official website should. They mention all her other appearances.

For now, I chalk this up to the fact that Nicksfix is one of the lamest "official" websites I've ever come across. Someday, go to www.dollymania.net to see what a real website run by a fan should look like.

[catinthedark]

I was thinking the exact same thing - in fact, I just checked the Nicks Fix quickly to see if it was posted before I came here. Negative.

Then I thought, hmm.. maybe I'll email John and ask him what he knows. Whether he can seek some clarification from Stevie or her people. Then I thought, nah, they're so obviously staying away from it now. There's no way they don't know about it - I get Google alerts on Stevie and Fleetwood Mac (as many others do, I'm sure). I've had multiple stories in my inbox everyday since this broke - legit news organizations to celebrity gossip columns to blogs.

I don't think John is avoiding it because he "doesn't care about it." I'm sure he doesn't care about half the stuff he posts - but this was a pretty major event - all over the media. Yet conspicuously not on her "official site?" Smells fishy to me...

[Rickypt]

I'm sure he doesn't care about half the stuff he posts

You mean things like the Stevie Nicks "license plate" sightings?:rolleyes:

You're right, pretty quick to post that someone saw a license plate that says "STR8BAK", but no mention of this live appearance.

Nicksfix does have a big mention of the Walter Reed visit, however. If the Brooks concert wasn't a problem, then why not mention it?

[catinthedark]

You mean things like the Stevie Nicks "license plate" sightings?:rolleyes:



Hahahahaha! That's exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote that! :lol:

[Ghost_Tracker]

Speaking of the Nicksfix...it's just not as cool as it once was. There are so many better fan sites than the "official" website. Of course this was back before everyone realized just how easy it is to create a website.


Check out the Official websites of other big stars, like Madonna, Britney Spears, Carly Simon, etc., and i.m.o. you'll see just how good John's page is, comparatively. His is the least "corporate" web page of a music star that I've ever seen, and the only one with a FREE chat room. It's also updated MUCH more frequently than the other OFFICIAL web sites, and has ways to send Stevie birthday and Christmas greetings, etc. that she ACTUALLY READS.
In my opinion, his page shouldn't be compared so much to the non-official Stevie sites, but to the Official sites of other major rock stars. From that point of view -
maybe it's the best page out there...
The other Official Web Pages, i.m.o., only have ONE take home message -
"BUY OUR SHIT! BUY OUR SHIT! BUY OUR SHIT!!!"
The alternative would be to put it in the hands of Stevie's record company, and BELIEVE me that would not be a pretty site....

Anyway I realize that I'm in a minority opinion here, but John (and probably Stevie) are being VERY wise here.
The best thing to do is lay low. ANYTHING else, even an apology, is just going to be like pouring kerosene on a hopefully-already-dying fire. She made a mistake, publicity wise, and inadvertantly walked in to a hornet's nest. But in my honest opinion she and Brooks are being USED by people who have an Agenda and, as I've said, are not presenting both sides of this story.
That's just plain bad journalism.

[BombaySapphire3]

originally posted by Ghost Tracker
Anyway I realize that I'm in a minority opinion here, but John (and probably Stevie) are being VERY wise here.
The best thing to do is lay low. ANYTHING else, even an apology, is just going to be like pouring kerosene on a hopefully-already-dying fire. She made a mistake, publicity wise, and inadvertantly walked in to a hornet's nest. But in my honest opinion she and Brooks are being USED by people who have an Agenda and, as I've said, are not presenting both sides of this story.
That's just plain bad journalism.
Not acknowledging that the event even took place on the official website is not IMO laying low.It is making the event even more glaring in it's omission .Like other Ledgies and myself have stated the best tack would have been to make public a complete transfer of the payola from this tainted party to a worthy charity.Much like Don Henley has with his check going right away to the Walden Woods fund.Pretending it never happened and hoping people just forget that it did is sort of the proverbial ostrich with it' s head in the sand solution.

[JeannieKartis]

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.

[Ghost_Tracker]

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.


Yes, THANK youuuuuuuu! :wavey: :thumbsup: :nod:

[DavidMn]

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.Otherwise, his wouldnt be the official site for long, you can be sure of that.:nod:

[Raeven Skye]

You may not care about it, but certainly the official website should. They mention all her other appearances.




they mention "near-misses" too....things that could be Stevie-related but aren't...i find it very telling that there's no "offical" word on Partygate (or Mitvahpallooza,as I've seen it, too..hehe).

[BTFLCHLD]

if one thinks petty and nicks are the only ones...
that would be a mistake... http://www.worldwidecorporateevents.com/musicians.php
professionals are paid to perform...and why shouldnt they be?
if an artists is concerned with who they are performing for
or where the money is coming from it would be their agents
job to provide that information to them...im thinking most
when presented with $$$$ for a short time-frame of work
would perform if the issues werent too murky...or they didnt
take the time to become aware...maybe a turn of the cheek :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

Plus and on a smaller scale by person, should artists screen out the people who buy actual concert tickets and records? Surely, some of the ticket and record buying public are crooks. Other than being a bunch of people making the large sum as opposed to one rich person making that sum, how is that significantly different from a moral point of view if we are to assume artists should not take funds from bad people :shrug: Where do we draw the line?

[jannieC]

I don't think it's that odd that she <i>did</i> the show, I just find it odd that it's not mentioned on her official website since every public move the woman makes usually is.

[Richard B]

Check out the Official websites of other big stars, like Madonna, Britney Spears, Carly Simon, etc., and i.m.o. you'll see just how good John's page is, comparatively. His is the least "corporate" web page of a music star that I've ever seen, and the only one with a FREE chat room. It's also updated MUCH more frequently than the other OFFICIAL web sites, and has ways to send Stevie birthday and Christmas greetings, etc. that she ACTUALLY READS.
In my opinion, his page shouldn't be compared so much to the non-official Stevie sites, but to the Official sites of other major rock stars. From that point of view -
maybe it's the best page out there...
The other Official Web Pages, i.m.o., only have ONE take home message -
"BUY OUR SHIT! BUY OUR SHIT! BUY OUR SHIT!!!"
The alternative would be to put it in the hands of Stevie's record company, and BELIEVE me that would not be a pretty site....

I understand what you're saying and see your points. However, the websites of the other artists you mention, are currently moving more units. Meaning, they are more popular in pop culture and selling product. Marketing works. Most of these artists have zero time to actually participate. The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!

Reprise did have a exclusive website when TISL launched. It was very nicely done but not offering anything on a personal side like Nicksfix does.

Don't get me wrong, Nicksfix is a great resource and John Kinney is a very nice person. The code for the site however really sucks and the updates are much more infrequent. It used to pretty much have updates on a daily basis...but now the info lags on getting posted. You can find up to the minute info on a lot of other site, including this forum of course.

[JazmenFlowers]

I understand what you're saying and see your points. However, the websites of the other artists you mention, are currently moving more units. Meaning, they are more popular in pop culture and selling product. Marketing works. Most of these artists have zero time to actually participate. The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!

Reprise did have a exclusive website when TISL launched. It was very nicely done but not offering anything on a personal side like Nicksfix does.

Don't get me wrong, Nicksfix is a great resource and John Kinney is a very nice person. The code for the site however really sucks and the updates are much more infrequent. It used to pretty much have updates on a daily basis...but now the info lags on getting posted. You can find up to the minute info on a lot of other site, including this forum of course.
good points. I agree that it makes me jealous of Britney, et al fans because they get so much via the web. I will say tho that this is not the case for all major stars today. My 2nd favorite diva, Xtina Aguilera's official website sucks. I visit christinamultimedia.com and miss-aguilera.com five times as much as they are on top of everything and offer lots of goodies.

[Sahara]

Ah, no, I think the Fix is pretty good.

And given the response the whole Bat Mitzvah thing has gotten thus far, maybe they've reason to leave it out ...

Just a thought...

[Sahara]

The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!




Yeah, that's true though.

Very witty, well done at the end there. :thumbsup:

[Ghost_Tracker]

if one thinks petty and nicks are the only ones...
that would be a mistake... http://www.worldwidecorporateevents.com/musicians.php
professionals are paid to perform...and why shouldnt they be?
if an artists is concerned with who they are performing for
or where the money is coming from it would be their agents
job to provide that information to them...im thinking most
when presented with $$$$ for a short time-frame of work
would perform if the issues werent too murky...or they didnt
take the time to become aware...maybe a turn of the cheek :shrug:


Amen, THANK yooooouuuu!!! :wavey:

[Ghost_Tracker]

Plus and on a smaller scale by person, should artists screen out the people who buy actual concert tickets and records? Surely, some of the ticket and record buying public are crooks. Other than being a bunch of people making the large sum as opposed to one rich person making that sum, how is that significantly different from a moral point of view if we are to assume artists should not take funds from bad people :shrug: Where do we draw the line?


Lemmie just throw this out as an idea -
whereva -
same as Stevie -
her own personal decision.
$250,000 - possibly for cancer research,
possibly for the heart institute,
possibly for Jessie.
Maybe just to pay some damn bills.
She's human.

[SuzeQuze]

...Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? ...

She does read them! As others have said John's site is "official". It used to be a fan site but not anymore. So for information that is extremely current, and therefore perhaps not 100% correct, we go to fan sites like Daniel's http://www.stevie-nicks.info.

[BombaySapphire3]

Plus and on a smaller scale by person, should artists screen out the people who buy actual concert tickets and records? Surely, some of the ticket and record buying public are crooks. Other than being a bunch of people making the large sum as opposed to one rich person making that sum, how is that significantly different from a moral point of view if we are to assume artists should not take funds from bad people :shrug: Where do we draw the line?
This doesn't really address the question of this thread.Why was a major event that has recieved widespread media coverage not been posted on the NIck fix?Also it would be kind of unrealistic to be able to screen every single CD or ticket buyer's criminal backround.Not so for a single wealthy party giver.Where would one draw the line though.Maybe a well financed soiree in Osama Bin Laden's latest cave hiding place?:laugh:

[strandinthewind]

This doesn't really address the question of this thread.Why was a major event that has recieved widespread media coverage not been posted on the NIck fix?Also it would be kind of unrealistic to be able to screen every single CD or ticket buyer's criminal backround.Not so for a single wealthy party giver.Where would one draw the line though.Maybe a well financed soiree in Osama Bin Laden's latest cave hiding place?:laugh:

I know it does not address the original question in this thread, but it is related, etc.

Also, they would not need to screen each individual ticket buyer, but they could put out general sign that says "if you are a crook, please do not come to our concert" :laugh:

Then, do not get me started on Johnny Cash performing for all those prisoners and making a mint off of it :laugh: :rolleyes:

In the end, I just do not see why this is such a big deal. I also do not see how it has been proven that this guy is a crook or that any significant percentage of his jackets were defective and the military has specifically stated no "defective" jacket ever put a soldier in harm's way.

I think people are just grossed out and horrified by some rich guy throwing his kid such a lavish party. To each their own I guess.

As for it not being on the Nicksfix, that probably was intentional as the other corp. events were on there - at least I think they were.

[Tango]

This doesn't really address the question of this thread.Why was a major event that has recieved widespread media coverage not been posted on the NIck fix?Also it would be kind of unrealistic to be able to screen every single CD or ticket buyer's criminal backround.Not so for a single wealthy party giver.Where would one draw the line though.Maybe a well financed soiree in Osama Bin Laden's latest cave hiding place?:laugh:

Major event? It was a PRIVATE bat mitzvah party for a 13 year old girl. Sure, her Pop is over the top wealthy, but he paid the price for having some amazing talent at this private event.

[JazmenFlowers]

In the end, I just do not see why this is such a big deal. I also do not see how it has been proven that this guy is a crook or that any significant percentage of his jackets were defective and the military has specifically stated no "defective" jacket ever put a soldier in harm's way.

I think people are just grossed out and horrified by some rich guy throwing his kid such a lavish party. To each their own I guess.

As for it not being on the Nicksfix, that probably was intentional as the other corp. events were on there - at least I think they were.

I agree completely.

[BombaySapphire3]

Major event? It was a PRIVATE bat mitzvah party for a 13 year old girl. Sure, her Pop is over the top wealthy, but he paid the price for having some amazing talent at this private event.
The media attention that it garnered has been major .It was featured repeatedly on CNN 2 days ago .Also anytime Stevie appears with Petty .Henley and Joe Walsh would be something worth mentioning on her official site don't you think?

[BTFLCHLD]

The media attention that it garnered has been major .It was featured repeatedly on CNN 2 days ago .Also anytime Stevie appears with Petty .Henley and Joe Walsh would be something worth mentioning on her official site don't you think? john determines the content with his advisors...you could email and ask? jk@nicksfix.com

[strandinthewind]

The media attention that it garnered has been major .It was featured repeatedly on CNN 2 days ago .Also anytime Stevie appears with Petty .Henley and Joe Walsh would be something worth mentioning on her official site don't you think?

I also think that the media considers this party in any way newsworthy on a national level and discusses it alongside major news just proves the lack of integrity for all pages other than six.

[Tango]

The media attention that it garnered has been major .It was featured repeatedly on CNN 2 days ago .Also anytime Stevie appears with Petty .Henley and Joe Walsh would be something worth mentioning on her official site don't you think?

Sorry Charlie. I think that something appearing in the tabloids of the Internet and CNN don't make something justifiable news. It was a PRIVATE affair for a 13 year old girl who is probably on the internet and as horrified that her party has become fodder for the world by the tabloids. No, I don't think anytime Stevie, Petty, Henley and Walsh do something it should be covered on her official site, because-- it was NOT an official event. It's a private event. It lasted-- what-- a couple hours, most of that time was NOT even Nicks related. She owes you nothing.

[BombaySapphire3]

Sorry Charlie. I think that something appearing in the tabloids of the Internet and CNN don't make something justifiable news. It was a PRIVATE affair for a 13 year old girl who is probably on the internet and as horrified that her party has become fodder for the world by the tabloids. No, I don't think anytime Stevie, Petty, Henley and Walsh do something it should be covered on her official site, because-- it was NOT an official event. It's a private event. It lasted-- what-- a couple hours, most of that time was NOT even Nicks related. She owes you nothing.
:lol: Now where did I ask for a cut of the Bat Mitzvah payola?My question on this thread is why when even the most obscure appearance or reference to LA Nicks is mentioned on the Nicks Fix including corporate or private shows, that nothing on this show was posted .It's that simple.For example was the recent sighting of her and Mick dining at a Georgetown restaurant an official appearance?

[Serrart]

Maybe they are like me....they don't care about the event. :shrug:

I've always thought you're a wise one Curtis.

Romy

[BTFLCHLD]

:lol: Now where did I ask for a cut of the Bat Mitzvah payola?My question on this thread is why when even the most obscure appearance or reference to LA Nicks is mentioned on the Nicks Fix including corporate or private shows, that nothing on this show was posted .It's that simple.For example was the recent sighting of her and Mick dining at a Georgetown restaurant an official appearance? it is john's prerogative to post and not post as he wishes :wavey:

[BombaySapphire3]

it is john's prerogative to post and not post as he wishes :wavey:
And it's my prerogative to be able to point out a glaring omission in those posts.:xoxo:

[BTFLCHLD]

And it's my prerogative to be able to point out a glaring omission in those posts.:xoxo: yet you ask US why he didnt and i suggested you ask JOHN who would be the person to know why he has or hasnt done something :shrug:

[dissention]

I find it rather interesting that the Nicks Fix , which usually is up on the tiniest mention or appearance of Stevie has no info whatsoever on this event.Whenever Stevie would do private shows in the past even if it was a shoe salesman convention details would be posted .The Bat Mitzvah even made CNN and still nothing?:shrug: This is getting kind of thick.

It's not exactly the kind of publicity one would really want, nor would they wish to advertise such a tacky display of avarice on their official page. It's not so much a cover-up as it is a smart PR move for not mentioning it.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Sorry Charlie. I think that something appearing in the tabloids of the Internet and CNN don't make something justifiable news. It was a PRIVATE affair for a 13 year old girl who is probably on the internet and as horrified that her party has become fodder for the world by the tabloids. No, I don't think anytime Stevie, Petty, Henley and Walsh do something it should be covered on her official site, because-- it was NOT an official event. It's a private event. It lasted-- what-- a couple hours, most of that time was NOT even Nicks related. She owes you nothing.


Uhmm, she owes me $1.58 for putting "That Made Me Stronger" on
"Trouble in Shangri-la." :laugh:

[Rickypt]

Uhmm, she owes me $1.58 for putting "That Made Me Stronger" on
"Trouble in Shangri-la." :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :lol:

Maybe we can file a class action suit or something.

[Richard B]

She does read them! As others have said John's site is "official". It used to be a fan site but not anymore. So for information that is extremely current, and therefore perhaps not 100% correct, we go to fan sites like Daniel's http://www.stevie-nicks.info.
I know it's a official website. It just needs more content.

When I go to a "official website," I want:

Sound bytes or full streams
Full videos
Merchandise
Exclusive content
Well designed interface

I also helped out John several years ago and sent him quite a few hi-res images of photos I scanned for him that he never had and he then used some of them for the hi-res picture of the week section.

I also still don't think she reads every b-wish. No thankful artist will ever say they don't read them and file them away or throw them away. Stevie can't even keep track of her master song tapes.

[Ghost_Tracker]

I know it's a official website. It just needs more content.

When I go to a "official website," I want:

Sound bytes or full streams
Full videos
Merchandise
Exclusive content
Well designed interface

.


Please trust me on this - there are PLENTY of people who would be VERY
happy to offer merchandise on the Official Web Site. Compare Madonna's
home page and you'll see what I mean. I have nothing against Madonna
but her home page has one, and only one, take home message -
"You are a potential customer. Buy our shit and then go away.
If you try to contact Madonna we'll have you arrested, stalker.
Once you've sent our money, sucker, we're done with you, until we get you
to BUY MORE SHIT!!!"
To me there doesn't seem to be any way - in cold hard reality - for there
to be an in-between. It's either all-corporate, or "personal" and friendly.
Try sending Madonna a fan letter through her website. I bet you any amount
of money that the best you get is an impersonal photo with a quickly
scribbled "Rock on, love Mado~~~~"
Anyway, my personal opinion is that Stevie at least tries to read
all the greetings, etc. - obviously based on her mood, how busy she is,
etc. - which is a lot more than a lot of the other big stars can say.
How much time do you think Madonna spent this week answering fan mail?
She's too busy using that 145 I.Q. of hers to write gems like "Every little thing that you say or do, I'm hung up, I'm hung up on you" and hoping that
no one's noticing that all she's doing in her most recent video is a Bus Stop
with Delusions of Grandeur. Please. ;)
Not to be cynical but that's precisely why Madonna's a billionaire and Stevie's
a multi-millionaire. She tries, and I give her credit for that, and my personal
opinion is that the web site is an attempt to at least try to convey that effort and that feeling of caring for the fans.
I'd also like to mention that as far as videos, etc. - while Stevie informally
"objects" to the bootlegs, etc. we all listen to (while her camp simultaneously
leaks them, it seems) - the "camps" of Madonna, etc. seem to me to be much more aggressive about pursuing the web sites, and shutting them down.
That's the impression that I have, at least. The videos are out there already, there's no need for them to be sold on the web site.
Just wait a few years and you'll see exactly what I mean -
shangri-la can't last forever.

[catinthedark]

Lemmie just throw this out as an idea -
whereva -
same as Stevie -
her own personal decision.
$250,000 - possibly for cancer research,
possibly for the heart institute,
possibly for Jessie.
Maybe just to pay some damn bills.
She's human.


Nope - sorry. I don't buy it. Stevie herself has said they could all have retired on the royalties from Rumours alone. I believe she called it her pension, or her retirement. Bills? She has no problem paying her bills. And if she does, she could downsize a bit. JMO.

Also - if Stevie was taking her Bat Mitzvah earnings and giving them to charity, you better believe we would have heard about it.

And finally, Jessie is not her daughter. Jessie has parents. Stevie is not her soul financial supporter.

[ontheEdgeof17]

And finally, Jessie is not her daughter. Jessie has parents. Stevie is not her soul financial supporter.


Well.....Chris and Lori work for Stevie....so Stevie pretty much is.

[catinthedark]

Well.....Chris and Lori work for Stevie....so Stevie pretty much is.


Okay - if you want to get technical about it. But I'm sure Lori and Chris make the primary decisions about their daughter.

[Jyqm]

Sorry Charlie. I think that something appearing in the tabloids of the Internet and CNN don't make something justifiable news.

But find a license plate that reads STNDBCK17...

[Rickypt]

But find a license plate that reads STNDBCK17...

Or a photo of the Gold Dust Lounge on Powell St. in San Francisco...a "pseudo" Stevie sighting! :rolleyes:

[kak125]

Here is a link to the Bar Mitzvah pics online:

Keep hitting the right arrow to scroll through the pictures. There are about 10 in there of Stevie. They arent the best pics since it was so dark in there. I am so jealous of that girl!

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?collid=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1&collid_list=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759:&img_size=5&trans_delay=3000&trans_enabled=true&conn_speed=1&mode=fromshare&Upost_signin_override_collid=95158463108.80000767508

[SapphireSister]

Here is a link to the Bar Mitzvah pics online:

Keep hitting the right arrow to scroll through the pictures. There are about 10 in there of Stevie. They arent the best pics since it was so dark in there. I am so jealous of that girl!

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?collid=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1&collid_list=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759:&img_size=5&trans_delay=3000&trans_enabled=true&conn_speed=1&mode=fromshare&Upost_signin_override_collid=95158463108.80000767508

I know it's been said but I'm going to say it again. I CANNOT BELIEVE those girls are only 13. They look in their early 20's. Unbelievable!
:shrug:

[BTFLCHLD]

daddy should spend a few extra $$$ for a decent photographer

[JazmenFlowers]

Here is a link to the Bar Mitzvah pics online:

Keep hitting the right arrow to scroll through the pictures. There are about 10 in there of Stevie. They arent the best pics since it was so dark in there. I am so jealous of that girl!

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?collid=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1&collid_list=95158463108.80000767508.1134059280759:&img_size=5&trans_delay=3000&trans_enabled=true&conn_speed=1&mode=fromshare&Upost_signin_override_collid=95158463108.80000767508
I think Stevie looks awesome. I'd like to know what she sang.

IMO, the girls do look 13ish, especially with the way kids grow up these days. I have a friend who has a daughter that age and she looks at least 18. Which one is the girl of the hour? One of them looks like Sharon Celani. I find it interesting the person taking these pics took pics of Sharon and Jana.

[Livia]

I know it's been said but I'm going to say it again. I CANNOT BELIEVE those girls are only 13. They look in their early 20's. Unbelievable!
:shrug:

I don't believe those girls are 13 - because they're probably not! It's not like only 13-year olds attended this thing and/or took pictures, right? :)

[Livia]

I think Stevie looks awesome. I'd like to know what she sang.

IMO, the girls do look 13ish, especially with the way kids grow up these days. I have a friend who has a daughter that age and she looks at least 18. Which one is the girl of the hour? One of them looks like Sharon Celani. I find it interesting the person taking these pics took pics of Sharon and Jana.

None of the girls in those pics is the girl of the hour, imo. The girl of the hour is the one onstage with 50 Cent and Steven Tyler.

[JazmenFlowers]

None of the girls in those pics is the girl of the hour, imo. The girl of the hour is the one onstage with 50 Cent and Steven Tyler.
that's what I thought and the girl in the prom looking dress looks 13. the rest of the girls could be and probably are older attendees.

I was just curious because of all the gripe about the girls looking older than 13...probably because they are.

[JazmenFlowers]

I don't believe those girls are 13 - because they're probably not! It's not like only 13-year olds attended this thing and/or took pictures, right? :)
that's what I was thinking too...

[ELIUD]

I bet that most of those girls are around 13. They are all probably her close friends that are standing up at her Bat Mitzvah. They might vary in age by 1 year younger or older but it's not like they're going on 18. They're kids. They just look that way these days. And yes they've all probably had LOTS O' plastic surgery and spend a lot of time in the tanning salon.

[dontlookdown]

what's the world coming to?

when stevie nicks does bat mitzvah's?

for the daughter of a right wing bush-loving weapons-dealing dude.


oy vey.

she might want to look into getting a new manager/agent/lawyer.

[SapphireSister]

I don't believe those girls are 13 - because they're probably not! It's not like only 13-year olds attended this thing and/or took pictures, right? :)

You're right, I just looked it up. The girl in those picture are not the Bat Mitzvah girl. Her name is Elizabeth and she was wearing a long sliverish princess looking dress with long dark blond hair. The other 2 brunettes in the kodak link were guests and definitely not 13 lol.

[Ghost_Tracker]

what's the world coming to?

when stevie nicks does bat mitzvah's?

for the daughter of a right wing bush-loving weapons-dealing dude.


oy vey.

she might want to look into getting a new manager/agent/lawyer.


He's never said he's right-wing;
he's never said he loves Bush;
and he's the owner of a company
that made body armor for the police and S.W.A.T. teams
to try to keep them safe.
A war started which he had nothing to do with;
he started selling his body armor to the army;
problems crept up in the field as they always do;
he fixed them.

[BombaySapphire3]

He's never said he's right-wing;
he's never said he loves Bush;
and he's the owner of a company
that made body armor for the police and S.W.A.T. teams
to try to keep them safe.
A war started which he had nothing to do with;
he started selling his body armor to the army;
problems crept up in the field as they always do;
he fixed them. I concur. Who cares if a few soldiers were killed or maimed .It takes sacrifice to make the world conform to western Democracy and to punish Iraq for their involvement in the 9/11 attacks and making all those WMDS!

[Ghost_Tracker]

I concur. Who cares if a few soldiers were killed or maimed .It takes sacrifice to make the world comform to western Democracy and to punish Iraq for their involvement in the 9/11 attacks and making all those WMDS!


Yes, I understand what you're saying, I just wish Stevie hadn't gotten
caught in the crossfire in all this. She's inadvertantly stepped in to a
hornet's nest by accident; let's just let her pick up the pieces and go home.
If you really think about it, Stevie Freaking Nicks CAN'T apologize for this.
So what I say is, let's just accept that she made a human mistake
and let her go on, and look forward to the tour next year.

[BombaySapphire3]

Yes, I understand what you're saying, I just wish Stevie hadn't gotten
caught in the crossfire in all this. She's inadvertantly stepped in to a
hornet's nest by accident; let's just let her pick up the pieces and go home.
If you really think about it, Stevie Freaking Nicks CAN'T apologize for this.
So what I say is, let's just accept that she made a human mistake
and let her go on, and look forward to the tour next year.
How true ! Why should Stevie Freaking Nicks have to apologize for anything.Some people are too far above the moral codes of mere mortals to be expected to stoop to such !

[Serrart]

How true ! Why should Stevie Freaking Nicks have to apologize for anything.Some people are too far above the moral codes of mere mortals to be expected to stoop to such !

Excuse me she should apologize to who? You? Me? The fandom? All America? All the world? She didn't do anything wrong, just accepted a work and didn't harm anybody doing it. It's far more than many people could say about their work.

Romy

[MacMan]

I concur. Who cares if a few soldiers were killed or maimed .It takes sacrifice to make the world conform to western Democracy and to punish Iraq for their involvement in the 9/11 attacks and making all those WMDS!

Except they found NO WMD's... and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 - Bin Laden did and he's from Saudi Arabia.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally posted by MacMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3
I concur. Who cares if a few soldiers were killed or maimed .It takes sacrifice to make the world conform to western Democracy and to punish Iraq for their involvement in the 9/11 attacks and making all those WMDS!


Except they found NO WMD's... and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 - Bin Laden did and he's from Saudi Arabia.
_________________The chilling thing is MacMan is that there are still people in this country that believe everything I said in that idiotic quote so I can understand why someone from another country would take me seriously.What I was trying to point out was the insensitive attitude of people who don't seem to understand that each life is precious and how heinous it is that someone would profit off faulty vests in a war that never should have taken place.

[Johnny Stew]

Great Googily Moogily, are we still talking about this?
Is it awfully lame that Stevie took part in this? Sure, it is.
Is it worth five threads and three weeks of discussing it? Somehow I doubt it.

Personally, I think Stevie should apologize for accepting this dude's blood money. I also think that anyone here who's ever bought a garment that might have been made in some Foreign sweatshop should apologize for their hand in exploiting children. There should also be a round of apologies from anyone who's ever eaten meat, worn leather, or taken prescriptions that were tested on animals. Not to mention the guilt of anyone who's ever bought or used illegal drugs, since drug money aids terrorism.

When we take a good, long look at it, we're all living in glass houses, folks.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Personally, I think Stevie should apologize for accepting this dude's blood money. I also think that anyone here who's ever bought a garment that might have been made in some Foreign sweatshop should apologize for their hand in exploiting children. There should also be a round of apologies from anyone who's ever eaten meat, worn leather, or taken prescriptions that were tested on animals. Not to mention the guilt of anyone who's ever bought or used illegal drugs, since drug money aids terrorism.



I'm sorry I've ate meat when I was hungry.
I'm sorry I've worn leather when it was cold out.
I'm sorry I got sick and took a prescription.
I'm sorry for snorting coke.

I'm sorry you take things to extremes to make a point. :)

I'm sorry this stupid subject has continued.

[Rickypt]

Great Googily Moogily, are we still talking about this?

What else is there to talk about? This is the most recent Stevie activity. She plays Vegas, people talk about it for weeks. She does the Bat Mitzvah, people are going to talk about it. The problem this time around is that there is controversy.

I guess I don't see what the problem is. The private party brings up serious issues around class, wealth, values, and politics--and Stevie is a part of the discussion because she agreed to perform at the event.

I'm sorry that some people think those issues should be dismissed.

I think it's more interesting than who got to see her boobs while doing the Edge walk, but I also enjoy those posts. I guess we could complain about her set list at the Bat Mitzvah instead?:shrug:

[Johnny Stew]

I'm sorry you take things to extremes to make a point. :) :laugh:

I'm not damning anyone for those things (but of course you know that)... I'm guilty of some of them myself (mmmm... veal. *drools*). And that's the point... we're all "guilty" of something.
I think you'd damn near have to live the life of a monk to avoid that.

[BombaySapphire3]

What else is there to talk about? This is the most recent Stevie activity. She plays Vegas, people talk about it for weeks. She does the Bat Mitzvah, people are going to talk about it. The problem this time around is that there is controversy.

I guess I don't see what the problem is. The private party brings up serious issues around class, wealth, values, and politics--and Stevie is a part of the discussion because she agreed to perform at the event.

I'm sorry that some people think those issues should be dismissed.

I think it's more interesting than who got to see her boobs while doing the Edge walk, but I also enjoy those posts. I guess we could complain about her set list at the Bat Mitzvah instead?:shrug:
I totally agree .Not discussing something just because it's controversial makes for a kind of boring and bland forum.

[David]

Great Googily Moogily, are we still talking about this?
Is it awfully lame that Stevie took part in this? Sure, it is.I'm not even of the mind that it was so lame. It was just a job, a gig. She isn't above taking a gig for the money. Mozart & Haydn did this. Isn't it great to squeeze Mozart & Haydn into the thread?
Is it worth five threads and three weeks of discussing it? Somehow I doubt it.It's dragging on. But unfortunately for me, most of the dullard threads are the ones that drag on the longest. I think I'm going to go over to Chit Chat & start a bunch of new threads on topics that thrill & delight me.
Personally, I think Stevie should apologize for accepting this dude's blood money. I also think that anyone here who's ever bought a garment that might have been made in some Foreign sweatshop should apologize for their hand in exploiting children. There should also be a round of apologies from anyone who's ever eaten meat, worn leather, or taken prescriptions that were tested on animals. Not to mention the guilt of anyone who's ever bought or used illegal drugs, since drug money aids terrorism.Sarcasm will get you ... killed on the Christine board.

[Johnny Stew]

What else is there to talk about? This is the most recent Stevie activity. She plays Vegas, people talk about it for weeks. She does the Bat Mitzvah, people are going to talk about it. The problem this time around is that there is controversy.

I'm sorry that some people think those issues should be dismissed.I didn't say it should be dismissed. And Heaven knows there were quite a number of Vegas threads, so it's not like I have a problem with multiple threads.
It just seems kind of odd that everytime one of the Bat Mitzvah threads starts to die down, someone starts another "we should be outraged about this" thread. Well, how many times can we all say that we wish she hadn't taken part in this?

But here I am feeding it now, too. So......

[Johnny Stew]

I'm not even of the mind that it was so lame. It was just a job, a gig. She isn't above taking a gig for the money. Mozart & Haydn did this. Isn't it great to squeeze Mozart & Haydn into the thread?
It's dragging on. But unfortunately for me, most of the dullard threads are the ones that drag on the longest. I think I'm going to go over to Chit Chat & start a bunch of new threads on topics that thrill & delight me.
Sarcasm will get you ... killed on the Christine board.The above comments further illustrate all the reasons I dig you so much.

[BombaySapphire3]

I didn't say it should be dismissed. And Heaven knows there were quite a number of Vegas threads, so it's not like I have a problem with multiple threads.
It just seems kind of odd that everytime one of the Bat Mitzvah threads starts to die down, someone starts another "we should be outraged about this" thread. Well, how many times can we all say that we wish she hadn't taken part in this?

But here I am feeding it now, too. So......
Actually I started this thread to point out that something that has generated this much media attention .Now an article in the new Entertainment Weekly a respected publication , has not seen a single mention on the Nicks Fix.

[Johnny Stew]

Anyway that's not the point, the point is that while blame may be subject to a little exaggeration here, your excuse is rather cocky, there is an amount of responsibility for someone with every financial advantage taking a blood stained bonus.My point was that Stevie accepted a job, and while perhaps she should have immediately run to Google, typed the guy's name in, and searched to see if he had ever done anything wrong, I doubt she'd think to do that.

I had no idea who this guy was before all of the controversy erupted. If he had offered me a ton of money to perform at his kid's Bat Mitzvah, I probably would have accepted, too. And I wouldn't have thought to check into how he got so rich either.

And you're right... relatively few people are aware of the types of business dealings made by the companies they support with their hard-earned dollars on a daily basis. But it's just as easy for us to research these companies as it would have been for Stevie, Tom Petty, et al, to research this dude.

[Johnny Stew]

Actually I started this thread to point out that something that has generated this much media attention .Now an article in the new Entertainment Weekly a respected publication , has not seen a single mention on the Nicks Fix.There are tons of things the Nicksfix isn't on the ball about. :shrug:

[catinthedark]

My point was that Stevie accepted a job, and while perhaps she should have immediately run to Google, typed the guy's name in, and searched to see if he had ever done anything wrong, I doubt she'd think to do that.



She may not - but her people definitely would. There's no way in the world Stevie would sign on to play a party at the Rainbow Room (this was not someone's living room) and not know exactly who she was playing for. If nothing else, her security would know.

[Johnny Stew]

She may not - but her people definitely would. There's no way in the world Stevie would sign on to play a party at the Rainbow Room (this was not someone's living room) and not know exactly who she was playing for. If nothing else, her security would know.Those technophobes? You give them more credit than I do! :laugh:

Stevie's on that "hire a celebrity" site, right? I imagine that the only thing her people need to know is that the check cleared.

[catinthedark]

Those technophobes? You give them more credit than I do! :laugh:



I do - I'm definitely not one of the masses who believe that neither Stevie nor anyone else in her entourage uses the internet. It's a part of life. Stevie has talked about emailing people. My mother is older than Stevie, and she's been using the net and emailing for years. There's no way I buy that Stevie just blindly, naively showed up for this show, and was like, "Hey! Look at all the other famous people! Anyone know the deal here?"

Not a chance.

[BombaySapphire3]

There are tons of things the Nicksfix isn't on the ball about. :shrug:
Now you know that is a bit disingenuous.This thing has been all over the media and generally the Nick Fix picks up on much more obscure things than the Bat Mitzvah .It is pretty apparent that it is not on there by design.

[ontheEdgeof17]

There's no way I buy that Stevie just blindly, naively showed up for this show, and was like, "Hey! Look at all the other famous people! Anyone know the deal here?"

Not a chance.

Especially since her a Henley performed Menorah and Lace without a hitch.

[catinthedark]

Now you know that is a bit disingenuous.This thing has been all over the media and generally the Nick Fix picks up on much more obscure things than the Bat Mitzvah .It is pretty apparent that it is not on there by design.

Yup - totally agree. I think the site is actually helping to make this even more of a "thing" (if that's possible! :laugh: ) by NOT posting it. There's not way John hasn't heard about this. I'd love to know why he hasn't posted it.

[catinthedark]

Especially since her a Henley performed Menorah and Lace without a hitch.


Menorah and Lace.



:laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Now you know that is a bit disingenuous.This thing has been all over the media and generally the Nick Fix picks up on much more obscure things than the Bat Mitzvah.
It is pretty apparent that it is not on there by design.Never said it wasn't, B.S.

Forgive me, but I guess I'm just really apathetic to the whole matter (it's not the first time rock stars have played for rich folks with shady business dealings). Not to mention that I haven't looked at the Nicksfix in two weeks, so I wouldn't even know what's on there or isn't on there.

[DavidMn]

Never said it wasn't, B.S.

Forgive me, but I guess I'm just really apathetic to the whole matter (it's not the first time rock stars have played for rich folks with shady business dealings). Not to mention that I haven't looked at the Nicksfix in two weeks, so I wouldn't even know what's on there or isn't on there.2 weeks? HOW dare you!!!!;) :lol: (((YAWN))))))

[Livia]

Especially since her a Henley performed Menorah and Lace without a hitch.

Candles forever
Dreidel to dreidel
My mitzvah or torah
Do we light 8 today?
I need some latkes
I crave them today
Give to me your menorah
Take from me, my lace

:p

[rbs3676]

Candles forever
Dreidel to dreidel
My mitzvah or torah
Do we light 8 today?
I need some latkes
I crave them today
Give to me your menorah
Take from me, my lace

:p


:xoxo:

Loves it!!!

rbs