New Interesting Stevie Article

[golden braid]

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17063887%255E5001182,00.html

Stevie's buzzing
RITCHIE YORKE
30oct05
AT HOME in her beloved Santa Monica mansion, Stevie Nicks (pictured) is feeling the thrill of a returning songwriting buzz.

For the first time in more than 18 months, the 57-year-old sex siren of the shimmering '70s has put pen to paper.

The new song is an ode to New Orleans, as yet untitled, but bound to wring a few more drops of emotion from that familiar Southern whipping post.

"I'm in the middle of writing a happy song – not a sad song – about the plight of New Orleans.

"I have so many memories of New Orleans because we always play there.

"I'm not gonna write a really miserable song," she ruefully declares. "I'm going to write a song about the New Orleans that was – and hopefully will come again.

"This is the first song that I've written in over 18 months. The last songs I wrote were the four tunes I wrote for the Say You Will project (2003). Since then I've written nothing."

But she's certainly had her eyes tightly focused on other balls, such as performing.

"Well yes. After we, Fleetwood Mac, left you guys in 2004, we went back to the States and did another four months of shows. Then I went into pre-production for myself and started out with four shows in Virginia in May.

"Then I did 10 shows with Don Henley and that was lots of fun. Then I followed up with 20 shows by myself and I'm into a little break time now. But we're rehearsed and ready to go."

Accompanying Nicks on her double header with John Farnham at the Entertainment Centre on February 20, will be a distinguished nine-man band under the direction of the redoubtable Waddy Wachtel.

Some observers might suggest that Wachtel's talents alone are worth the price of admission. But that might cast unfair aspersions at the feet of two honest triers such as Nicks and Farnham.

"Waddy is my musical director and he plays guitar for me. He really doesn't go out on the road with anyone else except me. He's like my Keith Richards and I'm happy, frankly, that he's not out doing everybody's stuff. He stays in town, mainly working on film and TV projects," she says, with just a touch of elitism.

"There's parts of this band of mine that go way, way back."

With an extensive punter-friendly repertoire that includes such gems as Bella Donna, Stop Draggin' My Heart Around, Edge of Seventeen, White Wing Dove and Leather and Lace, Stevie operates from a pretty special place in the public psyche.

The Australian response to last year's Fleetwood Mac-athon was a key reason driving Stevie's desire to get back Down Under. But equally significant was a timely invitation from the tuned-in Melbourne Symphony Orchestra for Nicks to join them in a high profile union.

She's flown out to Australia this weekend to announce the symphony gig and to attend Tuesday's big puntathon at Flemington.

If she seemed a tad flustered during our conversation, there was ample reason for it.

"My father passed away about six weeks ago. It was sad but it's OK. He was in a lot of pain and needed to move on. But it put me into a bit of a different space.

"So I should remember to tell you that there's a Best Of retrospective coming out to tie-in with the tour. But there won't be any new tracks. When I came off the road six weeks ago, I just didn't have the time to do some new recording. And anyway, I didn't have any new material until I started writing this song about New Orleans."

Stevie Nicks will perform with John Farnham at the Brisbane Entertainment Centre on February 20.


I am surprised she hasn't written any other songs since SYW. I thought she was always writing and would have some good material while being on the road for so long.

[BTFLCHLD]

thanks for posting
interesting indeed :nod:

[sparky]

Hmmm. This means no solo album. There is no new material.

Rehearsals for Mac at the end of 06, and back on the road in 07.

Maybe a solo record in late 08 ?

[ontheEdgeof17]

Maybe a solo record in late 08 ?


I don't see another solo record at all.

[MacMan]

When all else fails slap on some obscure rarity or something... I don't know. Seems a shame to have a best of without at least one new track! Everyone puts at least one new track don't they? Actually include the Dreams Deep Dish thing... There's your song and it just might sell a few extra copies because of it.

Is this even for a North American release?

[dissention]

"This is the first song that I've written in over 18 months. The last songs I wrote were the four tunes I wrote for the Say You Will project (2003). Since then I've written nothing."

"So I should remember to tell you that there's a Best Of retrospective coming out to tie-in with the tour. But there won't be any new tracks. When I came off the road six weeks ago, I just didn't have the time to do some new recording. And anyway, I didn't have any new material until I started writing this song about New Orleans."

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?

[ontheEdgeof17]

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?


She pisses me off sometimes.

[Johnny Stew]

Which is it, Stevie?It is a contradictory statement, but perhaps none of what she was writing ended up developing into complete songs?

I wonder whatever happened to the song she was reported to have recorded sometime during the 'Say You Will' tour. It was a cover tune, and had "Angels" in the title, I think.
I had assumed it was being recorded for a soundtrack, but nothing ever came of it.

Would have been cool if she had included something like that on the "best of" set.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I wonder whatever happened to the song she was reported to have recorded sometime during the 'Say You Will' tour. It was a cover tune, and had "Angels" in the title, I think.
I had assumed it was being recorded for a soundtrack, but nothing ever came of it.



One Million Angels was the song.

[sparky]

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?

If there is anything we have learned from Stevie by now is that her comments about her career and her plans are simply not to be trusted. She's a friggin Gemini. It certainly keeps things interesting.

[MacMan]

She could do a cover song... Record Circle Dance and dedicate the cd to her dad:nod:

[gldstwmn]

For the first time in more than 18 months, the 57-year-old sex siren of the shimmering '70s has put pen to paper.

What? :confused: I'm totally shocked by this.


"So I should remember to tell you that there's a Best Of retrospective coming out to tie-in with the tour. But there won't be any new tracks. When I came off the road six weeks ago, I just didn't have the time to do some new recording. And anyway, I didn't have any new material until I started writing this song about New Orleans."

That doesn't really make me want to buy it. :shrug:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?

:lol:

Stevie I love you dearly.

Chris is the same way, as much as I love her. She retired and we thought that was the end for her...BOOM...In the Meantime! :lol:

[gldstwmn]

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?

Dude, who knows? :confused:

[Johnny Stew]

Everyone puts at least one new track don't they? Actually include the Dreams Deep Dish thing... There's your song and it just might sell a few extra copies because of it.Not everyone includes a new track, but it does help sales when they do. I doubt she could have found something to include that we haven't all heard anyway, but it would have been a nice opportunity to give one of the vaulted songs an official release.

As far as "Dreams"... she might not be able to include it on her album when Deep Dish is still promoting their own.
I think that, unless there's a contractual agreement from the get-go that both parties can include a song on their individual releases, that there's a standard "waiting period."

I remember Bonnie Tyler once stating that she couldn't use a soundtrack song for one of her (MANY) "best of" albums that was being readied for release, unless she "waited another six months" or something like that. :shrug:

[AliceLover]

Yay new song....Im glad its a happy one too! :)

[Johnny Stew]

One Million Angels was the song.Thanks! :wavey:
The title of that song always escapes me.

[JazmenFlowers]

furthermore, who cares? I mean, get off of it. I'll buy anything she puts out, but that's just me. :) If it isn't appealing to you, then don't buy it and don't worry about it. By now, we all know Stevie does nothing but contradict herself so taking the time to bitch about this or that and quote this in direct response to another quote is useless. It is what it is. She either will or she won't and we'll just have to wait and see and enjoy the great music she's given us to this point.

[strandinthewind]

If there is anything we have learned from Stevie by now is that her comments about her career and her plans are simply not to be trusted. She's a friggin Gemini. It certainly keeps things interesting.

See, I think she referred to always writing in her journal, which she says she does nightly. She then says she goes back through those volumes and pulls things out and turns it into prose. So, maybe she did the former and not the latter. Moreover, even if she pulled it out and turned it into prose, maybe she has not created the music. So, I do not think she is that off and I get what she is saying.

[JazmenFlowers]

She could do a cover song... Record Circle Dance and dedicate the cd to her dad:nod:
that would be a great idea. look at poor donna summer - how many best of albums has she had out? and only recently, past couple of years, started adding new songs to them.

[Johnny Stew]

She could do a cover song... Record Circle Dance and dedicate the cd to her dad:nod:That's a wonderful idea actually. She did such a moving job of "Circle Dance," and it would have been a wonderful tribute to her father to have it on the album.

I hope she does record it someday... it would be a wasted opportunity if she doesn't.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I wonder if the new song will contain:

I like the costal cities
I like the lights
I like the way the ocean blends
Into the city at night

[BTFLCHLD]

furthermore, who cares? I mean, get off of it. I'll buy anything she puts out, but that's just me. :) If it isn't appealing to you, then don't buy it and don't worry about it. By now, we all know Stevie does nothing but contradict herself so taking the time to bitch about this or that and quote this in direct response to another quote is useless. It is what it is. She either will or she won't and we'll just have to wait and see and enjoy the great music she's given us to this point. what diss posted was funny :shrug:

[sparky]

See, I think she referred to always writing in her journal, which she says she does nightly. She then says she goes back through those volumes and pulls things out and turns it into prose. So, maybe she did the former and not the latter. Moreover, even if she pulled it out and turned it into prose, maybe she has not created the music. So, I do not think she is that off and I get what she is saying.


I don't think I see that quote the same, as it was in reference to making a record and writing. Which reads to me as songwriting. I don't doubt that she writes in her journal frequently. I also think all of those articles should be taken with a truckload of salt. Which provides us with an endless source of entertainment, clearly. :laugh:

[JazmenFlowers]

what diss posted was funny :shrug:
yeah, it was and I take his posts for what their worth. I wasn't directing my thoughts on his post; just in general. :thumbsup:

[strandinthewind]

I don't think I see that quote the same, as it was in reference to making a record and writing. Which reads to me as songwriting. I don't doubt that she writes in her journal frequently. I also think all of those articles should be taken with a truckload of salt. Which provides us with an endless source of entertainment, clearly. :laugh:

I also think reporters take things she says out of context and use old quotes the same way. Interestingly, I am ELATED she is writing about my beloved New Orleans and I hope it is along the lines of Beauty and the Beast :cool:

Also, when was the last time FM or La Nicks solo played NOLA? La Nicks did a private show there, I think, prior to TISL.

[JazmenFlowers]

I also think all of those articles should be taken with a truckload of salt. Which provides us with an endless source of entertainment, clearly. :laugh:
lawd, ain't dat da gospel!

[sparky]

I wonder if the new song will contain:

I like the costal cities
I like the lights
I like the way the city blends
Into the ocean at night

Quite possible.

We may also get an update on crying in the morning, trying to be strong.

I've got it !


Crying in coastal cities
Trying to be strong
I like the way this blends into
Three or four of my previous songs

[JazmenFlowers]

I wonder if the new song will contain:

I like the costal cities
I like the lights
I like the way the city blends
Into the ocean at night
I hope so...I love those lines and they way Stevie mixes lines from one song to another...almost seems like you're reading a great novel and one of your favorite characters returns.

[catinthedark]

She pisses me off sometimes.

I have to say - that was my first reaction, too. But I'm in a pissy mood tonight. And having read that article, and the quote Diss posted, I sort of feel like, for God's sake. Why would you lie about this? Either way? Frankly, it's a little tiring.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I have to say - that was my first reaction, too. But I'm in a pissy mood tonight. And having read that article, and the quote Diss posted, I sort of feel like, for God's sake. Why would you lie about this? Either way? Frankly, it's a little tiring.

We need High Priestess and her "web of lies" posts. :laugh:

[MacMan]

I hope so...I love those lines and they way Stevie mixes lines from one song to another...almost seems like you're reading a great novel and one of your favorite characters returns.

That's a nice way of putting it... I've never thought of it that way.

[BTFLCHLD]

Crying in coastal cities
Trying to be strong
I like the way this blends into
Three or four of my previous songs :lol: :lol:
write some more sparky pls!:xoxo:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I wonder if the new song will contain:

I like the costal cities
I like the lights
I like the way the ocean blends
Into the city at night

:laugh: :lol: :laugh:

[dissention]

See, I think she referred to always writing in her journal, which she says she does nightly. She then says she goes back through those volumes and pulls things out and turns it into prose. So, maybe she did the former and not the latter. Moreover, even if she pulled it out and turned it into prose, maybe she has not created the music. So, I do not think she is that off and I get what she is saying.

Who the hell says they get better as a writer because they write all the time in their journal? When she makes comments like the one I posted, does she think people are going to think "Ah, she's doing some journal writing! And she's getting better at it!" or are they going to think "Ah, she still writing fantastic songs, man!!" C'mon. I can suspend belief as much as everyone else, but I can't chew on shit and say it's chicken with a straight face.

[strandinthewind]

That's a nice way of putting it... I've never thought of it that way.

It also is a popular musical theory that started years ago in, I believe, Tosca, when music is used to introduce him before he walk on the stage. Les Mis and Andrew Lloyd Webber and to some degree Sondheim also used it. So, she is in pretty good company, though the examples I used did it with musical notes as opposed to lyrics.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

We need High Priestess and her "web of lies" posts. :laugh:

who is that?

[strandinthewind]

Who the hell says they get better as a writer because they write all the time in their journal? When she makes comments like the one I posted, does she think people are going to think "Ah, she's doing some journal writing! And she's getting better at it!" or are they going to think "Ah, she still writing fantastic songs, man!!" C'mon. I can suspend belief as much as everyone else, but I can't chew on shit and say it's chicken with a straight face.

She said she was "writing" - she writes every night. But, I do not believe she has written essentially no prose (second step) in almost two years.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Quite possible.

We may also get an update on crying in the morning, trying to be strong.

I've got it !


Crying in coastal cities
Trying to be strong
I like the way this blends into
Three or four of my previous songs

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think I might have just wet my pants!

[JazmenFlowers]

I have to say - that was my first reaction, too. But I'm in a pissy mood tonight. And having read that article, and the quote Diss posted, I sort of feel like, for God's sake. Why would you lie about this? Either way? Frankly, it's a little tiring.
don't you love being in a pissy mood? lol I get that way too.

And I sorta agree with you and quote you, "This debate is so old."

[BTFLCHLD]

i love the way juices flow
in the middle of the night

:]

[Rickypt]

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17063887%255E5001182,00.html

Some observers might suggest that Wachtel's talents alone are worth the price of admission. But that might cast unfair aspersions at the feet of two honest triers such as Nicks and Farnham.

WTF??

she says, with just a touch of elitism.

:lol: :laugh: :lol:

This article is funny....

[Johnny Stew]

Crying in coastal cities
Trying to be strong
I like the way this blends into
Three or four of my previous songsThat was, quite possibly, the funniest thing you've ever said here. :thumbsup:

[David]

Crying in coastal cities
Trying to be strong
I like the way this blends into
Three or four of my previous songsROFLSJDLAJRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAHAHHEHEHEHEEAAAAAAAAA!!! :lol: :lol: :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

i love the way juices flow
in the middle of the night

:]

Ooooo Lindsey
your candle makes me burn
I love your hip swivle
won't ya be my groom

:wavey: :wavey:

[David]

When all else fails slap on some obscure rarity or something... I don't know. Seems a shame to have a best of without at least one new track! Everyone puts at least one new track don't they? Actually include the Dreams Deep Dish thing... There's your song and it just might sell a few extra copies because of it.I was kinda hoping she'd record "Circle Dance" in the studio & then try to get it played on AC radio.

Is there AC radio any more?

[BTFLCHLD]

That was, quite possibly, the funniest thing you've ever said here. :thumbsup:
isnt that the truth!
eh sparky!
youre the greatest!
:wavey:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Is there AC radio any more?

:nod:

There's one in WV. 95.1 95XIL

[MacMan]

I was kinda hoping she'd record "Circle Dance" in the studio & then try to get it played on AC radio.

Is there AC radio any more?

And it just might have legs in that format!!!

BTW.. What the hell are those two guys doing in your sig... It's hysterical!!

[catinthedark]

We need High Priestess and her "web of lies" posts. :laugh:

Gah. Then I'd have to kill myself. One can only take so much.

[Johnny Stew]

I hope so...I love those lines and they way Stevie mixes lines from one song to another...almost seems like you're reading a great novel and one of your favorite characters returns.Yep, in music it's called leitmotif. I believe Richard Wagner was the very first to introduce its use in his operas.
It's used to reference and evoke previously established characters, situations, emotions and thematic elements.

[Nicksluvver]

Thanks for posting the article. I enjoyed reading it. I may or may not buy This best of retrospective, depends what tracks are on on it and in what order. As for taking every article Stevie is quoted in as the truth and nothing but the truth, I know better. Anything can be misquoted or taken way out of context and read differently on paper or computers, so yawn, that part of the thread is boring me to tears. :sorry:

[David]

And it just might have legs in that format!!!Big hit!!
BTW.. What the hell are those two guys doing in your sig... It's hysterical!!They're secret agents battling the evil Emperor Guillotine!! I mean, d'uh, Pete.

[Johnny Stew]

ROFLSJDLAJRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAHAHHEHEHEHEEAAAAAAAAA!!! :lol: :lol: :laugh: No one does snarky like you do.
Marry me? :xoxo:

[catinthedark]

As for taking every article Stevie is quoted in as the truth and nothing but the truth, I know better. Anything can be misquoted or taken way out of context and read differently on paper or computers, so yawn, that part of the thread is boring me to tears. :sorry:

With all due respect, it's kind of hard to misinterpret "I haven't written anything in 18 months" and "I write every night! i could totally go into the studio tomorrow."

As I said, tiring.

[strandinthewind]

Yep, in music it's called leitmotif. I believe Richard Wagner was the very first to introduce its use in his operas.
It's used to reference and evoke previously established characters, situations, emotions and thematic elements.

That is it. But, Verdi used it in Tosca first - I think. I cannot now remember if Veri came after Wagner :laugh: Oh Well :laugh:

[sparky]

That was, quite possibly, the funniest thing you've ever said here. :thumbsup:

Perhaps my greatest hits always come out in three seconds.

You know, I was just sitting here, in Sly Stone's FABULOUS studio and it popped right outta me.

And here I am thinking my rat wrangling story had all the funniest things I had posted. Hey, sometimes it's a Storms and sometimes it's a Jane.

:shrug: :blob2:

[David]

Yep, in music it's called leitmotif. I believe Richard Wagner was the very first to introduce its use in his operas.Stew, you can just call him Wagner. Anyone who actually confuses the composer with the TV star from "Hart to Hart" probably has it coming, anyway.

[strandinthewind]

With all due respect, it's kind of hard to misinterpret "I haven't written anything in 18 months" and "I write every night! i could totally go into the studio tomorrow."

As I said, tiring.

Well, she does write every night :shrug: I think she is talking about taking her journals into her studio and doing the actual songwriting in the later and just journal writing in the former.

[David]

That is it. But, Verdi used it in Tosca first - I think. I cannot now remember if Veri came after Wagner :laugh: Oh Well :laugh:Puccini wrote "Tosca."

Puccini also wrote "Turandot," from which I have often compared Stevie to the tital character, as you may recall. In fact, all self-respecting Stevie fans should hear or see a production of "Turandot" because it is, in essence, Stevie Nicks on the Wild Heart Tour.

[sparky]

ROFLSJDLAJRE!!!!!!!!!!


I am DYING for a translation.

[Johnny Stew]

Stew, you can just call him Wagner. Anyone who actually confuses the composer with the TV star from "Hart to Hart" probably has it coming, anyway.:laugh:

"Oh, I know Wagner! He and Natalie Wood were so cute together!"

[BTFLCHLD]

Perhaps my greatest hits always come out in three seconds.

You know, I was just sitting here, in Sly Stone's FABULOUS studio and it popped right outta me.

And here I am thinking my rat wrangling story had all the funniest things I had posted. Hey, sometimes it's a Storms and sometimes it's a Jane.

:shrug: :blob2:
sweet and to the point
i like it that ways :nod:

[David]

I am DYING for a translation.
It means "rolling on floor laughing so hard that it doesn't even matter which letters I use to signify a coherent, grammatical thought"

[catinthedark]

Well, she does write every night :shrug: I think she is talking about taking her journals into her studio and doing the actual songwriting in the later and just journal writing in the former.

Originally posted by Diss: "I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."--7/28/2005

I guess I read this differently. To my knowledge, one doesn't go into the studio to begin writing. Artists usually write their songs, and THEN go into studio. But whatev. It's all just speculation and interpretation. She's writing, she's not writing. She's making a solo album, she's touring with Fleetwood Mac. She's got 12 songs ready to go on a solo disc, she's getting ready to go back into studio with Fleetwood Mac. Who knows?

My head is spinning.

[strandinthewind]

Puccini wrote "Tosca."

Puccini also wrote "Turandot," from which I have often compared Stevie to the tital character, as you may recall. In fact, all self-respecting Stevie fans should hear or see a production of "Turandot" because it is, in essence, Stevie Nicks on the Wild Heart Tour.

OMG - I am on cold medication, an Ambien, a red pill I am not sure what for and am losing my mind :laugh:

BTW - it is TuranDOT (rhymes with spot) :wavey: I also see her as the one "Au fond du temple saint" is sung over in Bizet's Les Pêcheurs de Perles :cool:

[David]

:laugh:

"Oh, I know Wagner! He and Natalie Wood were so cute together!"Ol' Rick Wagner. . . . & his dad Sal.

At the paper, some guys used to ref "William Shakespeare" <-- sic, absolutely sic. So I asked them, "What? as opposed to Frank Shakespeare who worked the deli counter weekends down at Moe's?"

[Johnny Stew]

And here I am thinking my rat wrangling story had all the funniest things I had posted. Hey, sometimes it's a Storms and sometimes it's a Jane.Oh, the rat wrangling story was definitely funny. But I enjoyed this even moreso.

Sometimes you prefer a well-written sitcom, and sometimes you prefer a good, old fashioned topical parody. :nod:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Diss: "I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."--7/28/2005

I guess I read this differently. To my knowledge, one doesn't go into the studio to begin writing. Artists usually write their songs, and THEN go into studio. But whatev. It's all just speculation and interpretation. She's writing, she's not writing. She's making a solo album, she's touring with Fleetwood Mac. She's got 12 songs ready to go on a solo disc, she's getting ready to go back into studio with Fleetwood Mac. Who knows?

My head is spinning.

I guess I am thinking the studio is her home one, where she composes on the piano. But, that is just my crazy opinion :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I am DYING for a translation.

It means you are loose and have no morals :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

To my knowledge, one doesn't go into the studio to begin writing. Artists usually write their songs, and THEN go into studio.That's not always true. Some artists do all of their writing in the studio (I think the boys in Aerosmith do it that way), and some take only random melodies and/or lyrics into the studio with them.

[sparky]

It means "rolling on floor laughing so hard that it doesn't even matter which letters I use to signify a coherent, grammatical thought"

Excellent.
The notion that I made you laugh makes me snicker and squeal with delight.

[GardenStateGirlie]

I'm guessing if Stevie still does owe them more albums and has refused to buy out of her contract, a "retrospective" would count. I'm sure her labels walls are flaming about her not putting anything new on this thing :laugh: Oh, Stevie...I love you but you do enjoy talking out of your ass now and again.

[paleshadow]

One Million Angels was the song.

The song is "A Million Angels" close enough though. It's by Vaughan Penn. You can listen to a clip of it here:

http://www.vaughanpenn.com/main.htm

[melly]

A retrospective??? Come on... we've got Timespace and the Enchanted box set... the Dance is essentially a best of thing, isn't it?

An album of ancient demos and prev unreleased stuff would be much better. A hell of a lot more interesting than another Best Of album. Even with a new track on it. If Timespace is anything to go on, the new tracks will be pants.

Buckingham Nicks!! Surely that would sell well on CD?

I don't see the problem with doing an album of fresh material every couple of years. I think she's too caught up in collaborating... Sheryl Blinkin Crow, Don Henley... etc... I wish she'd write some basic stuff, just her without every bloody producer in the world sticking their noses in.

Stevie Nicks unplugged??

:shrug:

It is kind of cruel to talk about being ready to go into the studio and then turn around and say you've not written anything.

Still hopeful though...

[Kelly]

I agree with Curtis. We will never see another solo album from her. She is touring with the Mac next year..according to Mick..

Does she really buy that crap about us not wanting "blissed out" songs? Her not writing a song in two years is HUGE. Writing in her journal is hardly the same.

[jkmaletic]

I agree with Curtis. We will never see another solo album from her. She is touring with the Mac next year..according to Mick..

Does she really buy that crap about us not wanting "blissed out" songs? Her not writing a song in two years is HUGE. Writing in her journal is hardly the same.

Next year as in 2006, or 2007? Last I heard it was 2007, because she wants to take a year off (which I don't believe is a wise move for her). :distress: God, Stevie is confusing!

[Wildflower]

I agree with Curtis. We will never see another solo album from her. She is touring with the Mac next year..according to Mick..

I respectfully disagree -- I think Stevie does have another solo album in her. It seems to me that a traumatic event really stirs Stevie's songwriter soul....I would think her father's death would prompt her to pen some new tunes. I think she needed a few weeks to get over the numbness of it (even when a death is expected, there's still a "shock factor" that a beloved is no longer with us in this world). I believe (wishful thinking perhaps) that some great solo songs are soon to come.....

[skcin]

I agree with Curtis. We will never see another solo album from her. She is touring with the Mac next year..according to Mick..

Does she really buy that crap about us not wanting "blissed out" songs? Her not writing a song in two years is HUGE. Writing in her journal is hardly the same.


I sadly agree with you both. :(

[Rumour0323]

I agree with Curtis. We will never see another solo album from her. She is touring with the Mac next year..according to Mick..

Does she really buy that crap about us not wanting "blissed out" songs? Her not writing a song in two years is HUGE. Writing in her journal is hardly the same.


BUT WAIT!!! There are songs to be written...stories to be told, rumors to be started!:]

[Ghost_Tracker]

I sadly agree with you both. :(


Chill. There were rows and rows of filing cabinets full of songs and poetry
by 1983 or so. Even if she never writes again she's still got such a back-
log you wouldn't believe it.

(Some of the early interviews make this pretty clear.)

:cool:

By the way, I only just now discovered that there's four new articles on Nicksfix (from newspapers -
this is promotional stuff for the Australia tour) and in one of them she discusses a new song that
she's just written, which is about New Orleans.

[GardenStateGirlie]

I sadly agree with you both. :(

Jumping on the agree train, most regrettably.

[Ghost_Tracker]

"I'm totally writing. I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record. I think I get better as a writer every day because I work on it constantly. So it's not like I couldn't do it, but ..."
--7/28/2005

Which is it, Stevie?


AHhhh, but let's break it down. . . .

"I'm totally writing" - did she say what? Checks, maybe? :laugh:

"I could go into the studio tomorrow and start a solo record."

Also true - no?

"I think I get better as a writer every day." Somehow I believe that she

thinks that. :lol: I sure think that!

"I work on it constantly" Define "work," define "constantly". . . .

"It's not like I couldn't do it." Also true, no??? :shocked:

So she's being completely 100 honest!!! :nod:

( "Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies (tell me lies, yeah." )

Geeez, ya gotta love her.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Chill. There were rows and rows of filing cabinets full of songs and poetry
by 1983 or so. Even if she never writes again she's still got such a back-
log you wouldn't believe it.

(Some of the early interviews make this pretty clear.)

:cool:

By the way, I only just now discovered that there's four new articles on Nicksfix (from newspapers -
this is promotional stuff for the Australia tour) and in one of them she discusses a new song that
she's just written, which is about New Orleans.

"I realized I needed to add new material," Nicks says. "I told Lindsey, 'I know you've already been waiting for me for six months, but I need 30 days.' I told my brother, 'Fire up the 12-track Akai,' I got all my journals and went to work." - USA Today - April 27, 2003

When she finished that emotional tour in December of 2001, she called her bandmates and asked for 30 days to write some new songs reflecting the experiences she had across America post-9-11. When the month was up, she got on a plane, met her fellow Fleetwood Macs in California and presented the results. - The Salt Lake Tribune - August 1, 2003


As many songs as she has in those filing cabinents and the vault, aside from being leaked by whomever, most will never see the light of day. TISL included a few older songs -- well known demos that we know -- and then it included songs written by others or in combination with Stevie as well as some new stuff. Same with SYW. She feels the need to write something new for each album and not just pull from the vault it seems.

[strandinthewind]

"I realized I needed to add new material," Nicks says. "I told Lindsey, 'I know you've already been waiting for me for six months, but I need 30 days.' I told my brother, 'Fire up the 12-track Akai,' I got all my journals and went to work." - USA Today - April 27, 2003

When she finished that emotional tour in December of 2001, she called her bandmates and asked for 30 days to write some new songs reflecting the experiences she had across America post-9-11. When the month was up, she got on a plane, met her fellow Fleetwood Macs in California and presented the results. - The Salt Lake Tribune - August 1, 2003


As many songs as she has in those filing cabinents and the vault, aside from being leaked by whomever, most will never see the light of day. TISL included a few older songs -- well known demos that we know -- and then it included songs written by others or in combination with Stevie as well as some new stuff. Same with SYW. She feels the need to write something new for each album and not just pull from the vault it seems.

Which is my point. (sort of) - she has been writing likely daily in her journals. SHe just has not turned that into prose, which is what she did in the examples you noted above. But, she was still writing in the journals, which is where the four songs came from in the 30 days. Also, being on the road essentially two years with the Mac I am quite sure caused some SCORCHING journal entries :laugh:

[Jyqm]

When all else fails slap on some obscure rarity or something... I don't know. Seems a shame to have a best of without at least one new track!

It does? I would think people would be excited at the prospect of saving fifteen bucks. If there's no new material, there's no reason to buy it if you've already got everything.

[Jyqm]

It is a contradictory statement, but perhaps none of what she was writing ended up developing into complete songs?

Does it ever? I thought that's what Lindsey was for.

[Jyqm]

Which is my point. (sort of) - she has been writing likely daily in her journals. SHe just has not turned that into prose,

I think you mean "verse," don't you? "Prose" is what we're writing in right now - unmetered, unrhymed, no line breaks, just regular old sentences.

[Ghost_Tracker]

"I realized I needed to add new material,"

As many songs as she has in those filing cabinents and the vault, aside from being leaked by whomever, most will never see the light of day. TISL included a few older songs -- well known demos that we know -- and then it included songs written by others or in combination with Stevie as well as some new stuff. Same with SYW. She feels the need to write something new for each album and not just pull from the vault it seems.


I sorta agree with what your saying, except that a lot of TISL was
from the filing cabinet, and I believe some of Say You Will, as well.
For example "Planets of the Universe" (one of her most-brilliant songs,
i.m.o.) is actually a song from the late seventies/early 80s - "No Light,"
I believe the Demo was called. I think "Candlebright" and "Sorcerer"
are older, too. "Smile at You" has been floating around for some time
and used to be a VERY angry song. And "Goodbye Baby," of course,
is "The Tower," also from late 70s or early 80s.
I THINK maybe by "write" she's saying, "create publishable stuff
that is actually ready for an album."

[dissention]

But, she was still writing in the journals, which is where the four songs came from in the 30 days.

How do you know? We know about Illume, but how do we know the others came from her journals? How do we know she didn't take those 30 days to actually write songs instead of copying and pasting stuff from journals? I'm sure she pulled lines here and there, but writing a song takes much more than putting lyrics together. Regardless of how she did it, one doesn't just pull shit out of a journal and call it a song.

[SapphireSister]

See, I think she referred to always writing in her journal, which she says she does nightly. She then says she goes back through those volumes and pulls things out and turns it into prose. So, maybe she did the former and not the latter. Moreover, even if she pulled it out and turned it into prose, maybe she has not created the music. So, I do not think she is that off and I get what she is saying.

BINGO! Jason I couldn't agree with you more. Why is it so difficult for people to comprehend that she's still writing all the time in her journals, she's just not making these entries into songs. Stevie has spoken over and over again of the process of how she writes song by taking her journal entries and turning them into pros which become her songs. Just because she's not doing that it doesn't mean she's not writing. I don't understand why so many people have a problem with this.:shrug: She's still writing! She's just not turning them into songs.

Oh and of course I wish she were.

[skcin]

Chill. There were rows and rows of filing cabinets full of songs and poetry
by 1983 or so. Even if she never writes again she's still got such a back-
log you wouldn't believe it.

(Some of the early interviews make this pretty clear.)

:cool:

By the way, I only just now discovered that there's four new articles on Nicksfix (from newspapers -
this is promotional stuff for the Australia tour) and in one of them she discusses a new song that
she's just written, which is about New Orleans.

I'm aware of all of this. That doesn't change the horrible feeling in my gut that she won't be doing another solo album - at least not anytime in the next few years.

[strandinthewind]

I think you mean "verse," don't you? "Prose" is what we're writing in right now - unmetered, unrhymed, no line breaks, just regular old sentences.

Yes, thank you :wavey:

Though I have often wondered if some of ther journal was not already in verse as some of her songs lean toward prose.

[strandinthewind]

How do you know? We know about Illume, but how do we know the others came from her journals? How do we know she didn't take those 30 days to actually write songs instead of copying and pasting stuff from journals? I'm sure she pulled lines here and there, but writing a song takes much more than putting lyrics together. Regardless of how she did it, one doesn't just pull shit out of a journal and call it a song.

Umm - I and she never said she copied and pasted from her journals :shrug: She said she went to her journals during those 30 days :shrug: - she also has said in the past that when she crafts an actual song, she goes to her journals and pulls prose from there - that is where I got that from - But, if you know better than that - so be it.

Interestingly, she also said that sometimes the words just flow out of her a la Rhiannon and HAEWAFY - which seemingly did not come from the journals.

[dissention]

Umm - I and she never said she copied and pasted from her journals :shrug:

What do you think her pulling stuff from her journals is? She basically copied & pasted Illume from her journal.

She said she went to her journals during those 30 days :shrug:

And I asked you flat-out how you knew that because I had never heard that. :shrug:

Interestingly, she also said that sometimes the words just flow out of her a la Rhiannon and HAEWAFY - which seemingly did not come from the journals.

Exactly. Which is why I implied that it's entirely possible that she didn't necessarily pull stuff from her journals for all of those songs.

[strandinthewind]

What do you think her pulling stuff from her journals is? She basically copied & pasted Illume from her journal.

Illume was written as a poem. But, there are many copies supposedly of her journal floating around the net that demonstrate basic prose and not verse. Plus, she had to figure out the music for Illume, etc.

And I asked you flat-out how you knew that because I had never heard that. :shrug:

It was posted earlied by Marissa in this thread - to wit:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
"I realized I needed to add new material," Nicks says. "I told Lindsey, 'I know you've already been waiting for me for six months, but I need 30 days.' I told my brother, 'Fire up the 12-track Akai,' I got all my journals and went to work." - USA Today - April 27, 2003

When she finished that emotional tour in December of 2001, she called her bandmates and asked for 30 days to write some new songs reflecting the experiences she had across America post-9-11. When the month was up, she got on a plane, met her fellow Fleetwood Macs in California and presented the results. - The Salt Lake Tribune - August 1, 2003

keep up dear :xoxo:

Exactly. Which is why I implied that it's entirely possible that she didn't necessarily pull stuff from her journals for all of those songs.

But, she said she did for some of them. What is your point here anyway :laugh:

[dissention]

Illume was written as a poem.

The point is lost on you. It was written in her journal. She then copied it from her journal and used it for lyrics. Get it?

Plus, she had to figure out the music for Illume, etc.

Thanks for reiterating the point I made three posts ago. :xoxo:

It was posted earlied by Marissa in this thread - to wit:

Thank you, I had not read it.

But, she said she did for some of them. What is your point here anyway :laugh:

Before reading the quote Marissa posted, my point was that I had never heard her say that she culled those songs from her journals, so it was entirely possible that she didn't necessarily use them to a great extent when writing some of the songs.

[strandinthewind]

. . . Thank you, I had not read it.

. . .

Before reading the quote Marissa posted, my point was that I had never heard her say that she culled those songs from her journals, so it was entirely possible that she didn't necessarily use them to a great extent when writing some of the songs.

Thus, the "keep up dear" line :xoxo:

[cliffdweller]

Now boys, let's not fight. I can see why we're all befuddled though, Stevie is a walking contradiction. But that's why we love her right? :laugh:

[dissention]

Stevie is a walking contradiction.

That woman probably has to have the names of the days written on her panties so that she remembers which pair to wear.

[strandinthewind]

Now boys, let's not fight. I can see why we're all befuddled though, Stevie is a walking contradiction. But that's why we love her right? :laugh:

I am on cold medication and grumpy :laugh:

[dissention]

I am on cold medication and grumpy :laugh:

What's my excuse?

[Jyqm]

That woman probably has to have the names of the days written on her panties so that she remembers which pair to wear.

She probably bought a whole warehouse full of those Day of the Week Underwear on a coke-inducing spending spree back in the 70s.

[Johnny Stew]

Does it ever? I thought that's what Lindsey was for.I guess I should have said "complete demos." :p

[strandinthewind]

What's my excuse?

Bad hair :shrug:

[cliffdweller]

Bad hair :shrug:


Pfffffffffffffffffffffft! He's gonna get you good for that one. You know, revenge is a dish...well, you get the idea :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Pfffffffffffffffffffffft! He's gonna get you good for that one. You know, revenge is a dish...well, you get the idea :laugh:

He could cut off his split ends and I could make linguine :laugh:

WE LOVE YOU DISSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sparky]

Also, being on the road essentially two years with the Mac I am quite sure caused some SCORCHING journal entries :laugh:


Be still my racing heart. More songs about Lindsey !:blob2:

[dissention]

Be still my racing heart. More songs about Lindsey !:blob2:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/dissention_1/rands.gif
Happy happy joy joy!

[Rumour0323]

That woman probably has to have the names of the days written on her panties so that she remembers which pair to wear.


LOL....But if this is true..whatever does she do on Sundays?:laugh:

[amber]

Perhaps my greatest hits always come out in three seconds.

You know, I was just sitting here, in Sly Stone's FABULOUS studio and it popped right outta me.

:lol: :lol:
I love making fun of how much she tells that story and in the exact same way every time.
But seriously, I can't believe no one has addressed the horrific possibility of the NO song being comparable to Desert Angel. First thing I thought of. I guess you're all more optimistic than I.

"well...we played in New Orleans...so I know what it smells like...
we look up...it's a giant wave...but it's rainy as hell...
well this is the first thing that I've written...since I wrote about Peter Jennings....
And then the levy came down....And FEMA was notified...
and they all thought they'd be rescued...
But then something happened...FEMA was run by incompetents...."

etc.

[sparky]

"well...we played in New Orleans...so I know what it smells like...
we look up...it's a giant wave...but it's rainy as hell...
well this is the first thing that I've written...since I wrote about Peter Jennings....
And then the levy came down....And FEMA was notified...
and they all thought they'd be rescued...
But then something happened...FEMA was run by incompetents...."


Beautiful !:lol:

[dissention]

"well...we played in New Orleans...so I know what it smells like...
we look up...it's a giant wave...but it's rainy as hell...
well this is the first thing that I've written...since I wrote about Peter Jennings....
And then the levy came down....And FEMA was notified...
and they all thought they'd be rescued...
But then something happened...FEMA was run by incompetents...."


Ha! Love it. :lol:

So where is our water
Where has it gone
Where are our MRE's
Where is Michael Brown
Where has he gone to
What is it that's happening here

[amber]

Ha! Love it. :lol:

So where is our water
Where has it gone
Where are our MRE's
Where is Michael Brown
Where has he gone to
What is it that's happening here

:lol:

perfect.
I actually expected you to mention the comparison first. :)

[Ghost_Tracker]

What do you think her pulling stuff from her journals is? She basically copied & pasted Illume from her journal.



.


Stevie Nicks would NEVER NEVER copy and paste from her journal!!!!!
Maybe her ASSISTANT would but. . . . I don't think she even knows
what *right-click* means!!!!! :blob2:

[sparky]

Ha! Love it. :lol:

So where is our water
Where has it gone
Where are our MRE's
Where is Michael Brown
Where has he gone to
What is it that's happening here


I send that to Miss Rice
Buying shoes up in NYC
And to Bushy
On vacation...

[dissention]

:lol:

perfect.
I actually expected you to mention the comparison first. :)

I try not to think of such horrific things, hon. :laugh:

[dissention]

I send that to Miss Rice
Buying shoes up in NYC
And to Bushy
On vacation...

And to Cheney
Proofreading lesbian pornfic

[SapphireSister]

So where is our water
Where has it gone
Where are our MRE's
Where is Michael Brown
Where has he gone to
What is it that's happening here

Operation Rooftop Abandonment!

[amber]

I send that to Miss Rice
Buying shoes up in NYC
And to Bushy
On vacation...

:lol:
nice.
This songwriting collaboration has been very rewarding, I must say.

[sparky]

:lol:
nice.
This songwriting collaboration has been very rewarding, I must say.

We all need to get together with our journals and a 4 track.

Can't you get into Sly's fabulous studio ?

[StreetAngel86]

"I realized I needed to add new material," Nicks says. "I told Lindsey, 'I know you've already been waiting for me for six months, but I need 30 days.' I told my brother, 'Fire up the 12-track Akai,' I got all my journals and went to work." - USA Today - April 27, 2003

When she finished that emotional tour in December of 2001, she called her bandmates and asked for 30 days to write some new songs reflecting the experiences she had across America post-9-11. When the month was up, she got on a plane, met her fellow Fleetwood Macs in California and presented the results. - The Salt Lake Tribune - August 1, 2003


As many songs as she has in those filing cabinents and the vault, aside from being leaked by whomever, most will never see the light of day. TISL included a few older songs -- well known demos that we know -- and then it included songs written by others or in combination with Stevie as well as some new stuff. Same with SYW. She feels the need to write something new for each album and not just pull from the vault it seems.

she better bloody record Prettiest Girl in the World before she hangs up her platforms and chiffon or i will go postal :mad: :D

[SandyMac]

Yep, in music it's called leitmotif. I believe Richard Wagner was the very first to introduce its use in his operas.
It's used to reference and evoke previously established characters, situations, emotions and thematic elements.

Lindsey kind of does the same thing with his guitar playing, borrowing a chord or a riff from another song to put into a new song.

[SandyMac]

Ha! Love it. :lol:

So where is our water
Where has it gone
Where are our MRE's
Where is Michael Brown
Where has he gone to
What is it that's happening here

Brilliant :xoxo: :nod:

Love the song title ideas. How about 'Operation Flood the 9th Ward" er that is too long. How about "Operation Levy Break" or "Operation Flood Plain" or
"Operation Flood Demon". Ha ha get it? Opposite of Operation Desert Angel.
I know... kind of lame, but made me chuckle.

[ragandbone]

We all need to get together with our journals and a 4 track.

Can't you get into Sly's fabulous studio ?

I love your song!
Sly Stone has a been a recluse for couple of decades, so you might have to push him out of bed when you get to the Plant!
Or you could try this inspiring4901 fur environment;)