Futher thoughts on Street Angel

[markolas]

I've been listening to this album a lot lately, and I really like a lot of the songs on it, but as a whole, it leaves something to be desired. So, I was thinking...you know, this would be a kickass little album if about four of these songs weren't on here, and she'd stuck Thousand Days on there instead.

So, I came up with an alternate tracklist:

1. Blue Denim
2. Greta
3. Street Angel
4. Thousand Days
5. Listen to the Rain
6. Destiny
7. Love Is Like a River
8. Rose Garden
9. Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
10. Just Like a Woman

The only song I really hate...and I mean, it absolutely disgusts me...is Unconditional Love. Docklands just doesn't sound like Stevie. And Kick It & Jane have potential, but as they are, neither one does anything for me. :shrug:

[Richard B]

Docklands just doesn't sound like Stevie.
That's why I really love 'Docklands.' It's a nice surprise and it doesn't fit her mold...no darkness, no mysticism. It's very fresh.

I like your tracklist. You got rid of the clunkers.

[blinker12]

"Kick It" is one of my favorites on the album!
I've always loved this verse:

"It's a strange kind of love affair
A symphony of sorts
Strange kind of love affair
A declaration of war
No I won't be here tomorrow night
You won't see me smiling
Tomorrow when it's very dark, no crying..."

[dissention]

It should have been an EP.

1. Street Angel
2. Blue Denim
3. Just Like A Woman
4. Greta (original master reel mix, not the bad ersatz new wave on the album)

The rest can go rot.

[markolas]

"Kick It" is one of my favorites on the album!
I've always loved this verse:

"It's a strange kind of love affair
A symphony of sorts
Strange kind of love affair
A declaration of war
No I won't be here tomorrow night
You won't see me smiling
Tomorrow when it's very dark, no crying..."

That is a great verse. I think the song has potential, but as it is, it just doesn't grab be for some reason.

[amber]

I've been listening to this album a lot lately, and I really like a lot of the songs on it, but as a whole, it leaves something to be desired. So, I was thinking...you know, this would be a kickass little album if about four of these songs weren't on here, and she'd stuck Thousand Days on there instead.

So, I came up with an alternate tracklist:

1. Blue Denim
2. Greta
3. Street Angel
4. Thousand Days
5. Listen to the Rain
6. Destiny
7. Love Is Like a River
8. Rose Garden
9. Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
10. Just Like a Woman

The only song I really hate...and I mean, it absolutely disgusts me...is Unconditional Love. Docklands just doesn't sound like Stevie. And Kick It & Jane have potential, but as they are, neither one does anything for me. :shrug:


Having a Street Angel without Kick It is like having a Diss without a loathing of Street Angel - it's just not right, it's just not natural. Kick It is great, Thousand Days sucks.

[markolas]

Having a Street Angel without Kick It is like having a Diss without a loathing of Street Angel - it's just not right, it's just not natural. Kick It is great, Thousand Days sucks.

Ohhh, noooo...I lurves me some Thousand Days.

[amber]

Ohhh, noooo...I lurves me some Thousand Days.
well, then now you know how I feel about Kick It. To be fair, I concur about Unconditional Love WCYM.

[dissention]

Having a Street Angel without Kick It is like having a Diss without a loathing of Street Angel - it's just not right, it's just not natural. Kick It is great, Thousand Days sucks.

:laugh: :xoxo:

Quiet now, songbird, just for one night
Well, I know that you love to sing
And, oh baby, well, I know that you love to write
You live by the light of the moon
and I live by light of desire
Ooh, such words to her over the phone
"Just how many people are there with you now"

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke.

[markolas]

well, then now you know how I feel about Kick It.

I didn't know that many people liked Kick It. I don't hate it...it just doesn't grab me like some of the others. She should've done something to it, although I don't know what, exactly. :shrug:

[amber]

:laugh: :xoxo:

Quiet now, songbird, just for one night
Well, I know that you love to sing
And, oh baby, well, I know that you love to write
You live by the light of the moon
and I live by light of desire
Ooh, such words to her over the phone
"Just how many people are there with you now"

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke.
Wooow. I didn't even know the words and I didn't like it. This just makes it worse. :distress:

[markolas]

To be fair, I concur about Unconditional Love WCYM.

Unconditional Love has to be the worst song she's ever recorded. Those lyrics! Arrrgh!!

"The one condition of love...is there are none at all." Good lord, where do I start in picking apart that philosophy?? :distress:

[amber]

I didn't know that many people liked Kick It. I don't hate it...it just doesn't grab me like some of the others. She should've done something to it, although I don't know what, exactly. :shrug:
It's definitely one of the most "rocking" songs on there. It's practically the only one.
That's the first song I liked. None of the others grabbed me except that one at first. Followed closely by JLAW, because I knew it already and liked the old version. :shrug: All the rest had to grow on my like a fungus. The kind that rots the wood off of your fence where it is growing.
Which song grabbed you first?

[markolas]

Wooow. I didn't even know the words and I didn't like it. This just makes it worse. :distress:

That's actually my favorite verse. :nod: :lol:

[dissention]

Wooow. I didn't even know the words and I didn't like it. This just makes it worse. :distress:

:laugh:

The first time I heard it, I was instantly struck by her terrible vocal. Then I focused on the horrid production. Then the lyrics. By the time I got around to actually listening to the lyrics, the song was having the same effect on me as ipecac syrup would.

[amber]

Unconditional Love has to be the worst song she's ever recorded. Those lyrics! Arrrgh!!

"The one condition of love...is there are none at all." Good lord, where do I start in picking apart that philosophy?? :distress:
I dunno, I just really hate the tune. And the vocal is no great shakes, either. So, I don't even want to start thinking about why I might hate the words. :laugh:

[dissention]

That's actually my favorite verse. :nod: :lol:

Get out! :laugh:

I do agree with you on that line in Unconditional Love, though. It makes me quite ill.

[amber]

That's actually my favorite verse. :nod: :lol:
:laugh: :xoxo:
eh, that always happens around here.

[Jyqm]

And Kick It & Jane have potential, but as they are, neither one does anything for me. :shrug:

There's an alternative (you're welcome, David) version of "Kick It" floating around out there that you might like.

[markolas]

It's definitely one of the most "rocking" songs on there. It's practically the only one.
That's the first song I liked. None of the others grabbed me except that one at first. Followed closely by JLAW, because I knew it already and liked the old version. :shrug: All the rest had to grow on my like a fungus. The kind that rots the wood off of your fence where it is growing.
Which song grabbed you first?

It's hard to say, because it's only been in the last few months that I heard the whole album. Before that, the only songs I heard were the ones on Enchanted. Out of those, Street Angel was the one that grabbed me first.

When I actually heard the whole album...I think it was Greta. Listen to the Rain & Love Is Like a River, too...I'm not sure what to say about the lyrics of those two songs...they're horrible, but they're just so "Stevie," that I can't help but love them. :D

[markolas]

Get out! :laugh:

I do agree with you on that line in Unconditional Love, though. It makes me quite ill.

I'm comforted by the fact that Stevie didn't write it.

[dissention]

I'm comforted by the fact that Stevie didn't write it.

You should find discomfort in the fact that she found it worthy of not only being recorded, but of making it onto one of her albums.

[amber]

It's hard to say, because it's only been in the last few months that I heard the whole album. Before that, the only songs I heard were the ones on Enchanted. Out of those, Street Angel was the one that grabbed me first.

When I actually heard the whole album...I think it was Greta. Listen to the Rain & Love Is Like a River, too...I'm not sure what to say about the lyrics of those two songs...they're horrible, but they're just so "Stevie," that I can't help but love them. :D
Those are all my other favorites, actually. Listen to the Rain is totally ridiculous, I didn't like it before as much as I do now. But now I like it in part because it is ridiculous.
But it does rollick along, and I appreciate that.

[amber]

You should find discomfort in the fact that she found it worthy of not only being recorded, but of making it onto one of her albums.
oh, I've come to terms with all that madness. A Stevie who doesn't do things like that would be like a Diss who doesn't make fun of a Stevie who does things like that.
It's not natural, it's not right.

[Johnny Stew]

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke.With all the puking and shitting you do, you must be bulimic!

Might wanna seek help, buddy!

[strandinthewind]

With all the puking and shitting you do, you must be bulimic!

Might wanna seek help, buddy!

Speaking of which, how is your diet coming along :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Speaking of which, how is your diet coming along :wavey:I'm not doing the low-carb thing any longer... just wasn't practical for me. But I've been limiting my Midnight snacks and exercising more.

Sure isn't like when I was in my teens and early 20s though... back then, if I missed just one meal, I lost 5 lbs!

[sparky]

:laugh: :xoxo:

Quiet now, songbird, just for one night
Well, I know that you love to sing
And, oh baby, well, I know that you love to write
You live by the light of the moon
and I live by light of desire
Ooh, such words to her over the phone
"Just how many people are there with you now"

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke.

I always alter these lyrics for my own amusement, even though I kind of like the song...the usual one's being "I live by the light of designers (or the dimmers)"

"Oooh, such words to Frank over the phone, just how many groupies are there with you now"

And my favorite "Quiet now. SHUT UP. Just for one night ! " :laugh:

[dissention]

And my favorite "Quiet now. SHUT UP. Just for one night ! " :laugh:

I kid you not when I tell you that I sing that when I listen to it. :lol:

[sparky]

I kid you not when I tell you that I sing that when I listen to it. :lol:

Maybe we were tagethahhhhhhhh in anothah life

Maybe we are tagethahhhhhhhhhh in a parallel unahverse:wavey:

[Richard B]

I'm not doing the low-carb thing any longer... just wasn't practical for me. But I've been limiting my Midnight snacks and exercising more.

Sure isn't like when I was in my teens and early 20s though... back then, if I missed just one meal, I lost 5 lbs!
Midnight snacking is my worst habit. I just love to munch on snacks at the witching hour. But if I do it too much...I start to get a gut. And when I snack...forget anything healthy. It's all about chips, cookies or crackers.

[SpyNote]

I didn't know that many people liked Kick It. I don't hate it...it just doesn't grab me like some of the others. She should've done something to it, although I don't know what, exactly. :shrug:

I enjoy her songs that borrow lines from short stories and novels :thumbsup:

[strandinthewind]

Midnight snacking is my worst habit. I just love to munch on snacks at the witching hour. But if I do it too much...I start to get a gut. And when I snack...forget anything healthy. It's all about chips, cookies or crackers.

That is the worst. I am so good about that now. I keep NO food in the house :laugh: I also eat dinner when I can, which is usually during the week, at 5:30 and then go to the gym at like 6:30. It is working, but not fast enough damnit :laugh:

[StreetAngel86]

It should have been an EP.

1. Street Angel
2. Blue Denim
3. Just Like A Woman
4. Greta (original master reel mix, not the bad ersatz new wave on the album)

The rest can go rot.


I love you :)

B side:

Love Is Like a River
Thousand Days
Kick It
God's Garden [the original version coz it rocks]

[skcin]

Ohhh, noooo...I lurves me some Thousand Days.


I loathes me some Thousand Days. :laugh:

[Hippocampus]

I loathes me some Thousand Days. :laugh:


I wouldn't go as far as saying that I loath "Thousand Days" but it's definitely a full-fledged member of my Stevie's Top 5 Weakest Songs.

[jwd]

Further thoughts on Street Angel

Has anyone said it pretty much sucks yet? :D

[David]

Has anyone said it pretty much sucks yet? :DYou're always so negative. :distress:

[jwd]

You're always so negative. :distress:

David, you know that's not true. I'm one of Stevie's biggest fans. There are countless posts I've made over the years that would back that up. I just don't happen to like one album of hers. Come on man, give me a break! :)

[StreetAngel86]

Has anyone said it pretty much sucks yet? :D

do u know you're EVIL :D
and no it does not suck it's better that TISL dammit UGH :eek:

[Sahara]

I only got the album during the week! Shame on me, I know, but it completes the collection.

So far I've only listened to a couple of tracks, but Blue Denim and Street Angel just blew me away. Blue Denim really, really reminds me of Trouble in Shangri La, just the structure of it, the sound, the general feel ... anyone think so?

And Listen to the Rain is brililant too.

So far, nothing else really stands out.

[skcin]

do u know you're EVIL :D
and no it does not suck it's better that TISL dammit UGH :eek:


Um, I don't dislike Street Angel at all, it's not as bad an album as some say. But to say it's better than TISL? Wow. I can't say I agree with you there. No worries, though, I'm sure Curtis will. :laugh:

[amber]

Um, I don't dislike Street Angel at all, it's not as bad an album as some say. But to say it's better than TISL? Wow. I can't say I agree with you there. No worries, though, I'm sure Curtis will. :laugh:
I kind of like it better than TISL, too. There's about 2-3 songs I don't like on SA, and 5 or so I don't like on TISL. But I have had SA so much longer.

[The Tower]

And Listen to the Rain is brililant too.
:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:

Oh, suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrre............................

[The Tower]

Um, I don't dislike Street Angel at all, it's not as bad an album as some say. But to say it's better than TISL? Wow. I can't say I agree with you there. No worries, though, I'm sure Curtis will. :laugh:
TISL is really not holding up for me as time passes. "Fall From Grace", "I Miss You", "Trouble In Shangri-La", and "Planets of the Universe" are awesome. Everything else is a grade C and lower (most of it in the F territory).

[StreetAngel86]

That's why SA is on the top of my album list because it has the least amount of songs i hate on it. TISL would be # one if

A - Stevie left all the BN demos as was
B - This is wot the track list was:

01 - Trouble in Shangri La
02 - Candlebright [non butchered by You-Know-Who]
03 - Sorcerer [non butchered by You-Know-Who]
04 - Planets of the Universe
05 - Everyday
06 - Space Needle
07 - Love Changes
08 - I Miss You
09 - My Heart
10 - Bombay Sapphires
11 - Fall From Grace
12 - Love Is

But then SA would have been better with all the songs that didn't make it too :: ho hum ::

[sparky]

I kind of like it better than TISL, too.

:eek:

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-008.gif

[ontheEdgeof17]

It's funny she calls TISL her "masterpiece" with so many so-called clunkers as described by her fans. :rolleyes:

[markolas]

It's funny she calls TISL her "masterpiece" with so many so-called clunkers as described by her fans. :rolleyes:

Well, it only has two clunkers as far as I'm concerned, and one of them would be fine if it weren't for the line "Can you write this for me, he says no you write your songs yourself."

[markolas]

And as far as her "masterpiece" goes, I think that will always be Bella Donna. TISL might qualify as runner-up.

[golden braid]

It's funny she calls TISL her "masterpiece" with so many so-called clunkers as described by her fans. :rolleyes:
I know. I love most of the album but the songs I don't like are definitely my least favorite Stevie songs ever (TMMS and LC).

[skcin]

Crazy talk, people! :laugh:

To each his/her own, but IMO TISL has moments of sheer brilliance tempered by a generally solid album with one or two clunkers in there. Street Angel? Mediocrity all the way. Sure, I sing along to fun little ditties Live is Like a River and Kick It, but I prefer a darker Stevie, a more emotionally raw Stevie. That's all. I don't hate Street Angel, but I adore TISL.

[dissention]

Crazy talk, people! :laugh:

To each his/her own, but IMO TISL has moments of sheer brilliance tempered by a generally solid album with one or two clunkers in there. Street Angel? Mediocrity all the way. Sure, I sing along to fun little ditties Live is Like a River and Kick It, but I prefer a darker Stevie, a more emotionally raw Stevie. That's all. I don't hate Street Angel, but I adore TISL.

Always the voice of reason. Let's break this down.

Street Angel

Blue Denim - Meh.
Greta - Ugh.
Street Angel - Lovely.
Docklands - Ugh.
Listen To the Rain - Oh, the pain.
Destiny - Cheese.
Unconditional Love - Oh, the horror.
Love Is Like A River - Unintelligible mediocity.
Rose Garden - Go get sloshed, Stevie. Don't subject us to your mid-life crisis "poor me" crap.
Maybe Love - Asslee Simpson could sing it and the effect would be the same.
Just Like A Woman - I loves it.
Kick It - Yes, kick this shit right on down the drain.
Jane - Ummm...Jason likes it.

Trouble In Shangri-La

Trouble In Shangri-La - Yowzer. Fantastic.
Candlebright - Okay. Nothing to crow over, but I love its placement after TISL.
Sorcerer - The Sheryl Crow mix is brilliant.
Planets of the Universe - Middling. The atmosphere of the extended version is tops, though, and the somewhat pilfered lyrics are great.
Every Day - Not any day.
Too Far From Texassssssssssssssss - Not far enough away.
That Made Me Stronger - What makes her stronger makes me ill.
It's Only Love - One of the best things she's ever recorded.
Love Changes - She wouldn't be Stevie if she didn't follow up an amazing tune with the musical equivalent of a root canal.
I Miss You - Great.
Bombay Sapphires - Pretty darn good. And I like Macy Gray on it. The outtake is ten times better, though.
Fall From Grace - Not a favorite, but it's not bad at all.
Love Is - Gag me.

TISL obviously wins in my book. :xoxo:

[GypsySorcerer]

That Made Me Stronger - What makes her stronger makes me ill.
Love Changes - She wouldn't be Stevie if she didn't follow up an amazing tune with the musical equivalent of a root canal.


Truer words were never spoken.

TISL is a much stronger album than SA, though. Of course, that is a back-handed compliment. :laugh:

[skcin]

Diss? I love you. :xoxo: I wanna do one now!

Blue Denim - Good tune, nice vocal at end
Greta - OK
Street Angel - haunting, eerie, GREAT!
Docklands - eh
Listen to the Rain - eh
Destiny - eh
Unconditional Love - eh
Love is Like a River - OK
Rose Garden - Good tune
Maybe Love - eh
Just Like a Woman - Good tune
Kick it - OK
Jane - OK

TISL - f*cking brilliant
Candlebright - great
Sorcerer - incredible
POTU - incredible
Every Day - blergh
TFFT - great (yes, that's what I said!)
That Made Me Stronger - eh
It's Only Love - f*cking brilliant (THank God someone else thinks so)
Love changes - eh
I Miss You - blergh
Bombay Sapphires - great
FFG - great (live versions incredible)
Love Is - incredible

So, when you say that Street Angel has the least hated songs on it for you & that's why you like the album better, I don't really think that way. I mean, I really HATE Every Day & I Miss You. BUT I still have an emotional response to them. Much of Street Angel is just...there. I just don't care much either way about most of those songs.
:shrug:

[amber]

Just because you guys agree with each other, still doesn't make you right. :) :wavey: Ohmy god, you think Candlebright and It's Only Love and Bombay Sapphires and Love Is are great?
I don't like any of those songs much. Love Is is the best of the 4, but again, me no like those songs.

[ontheEdgeof17]

FFG - great (live versions incredible)



You are out of your tree on this one. I dunno what live versions you are talking about. :cool:


For the record, TISL is amazing. I love it dearly. It does have a certain feel to it that I enjoy....the feel of heartbreak and despair. SA really doesn't have a flow....I call it the 'art gallery' album...because it just sounds like it belongs in an art gallery...playing in the background.

[dissention]

SA really doesn't have a flow....I call it the 'art gallery' album...because it just sounds like it belongs in an art gallery...playing in the background.

What art galleries do you frequent? :shocked:

[Johnny Stew]

Go get sloshed, Stevie. Don't subject us to your mid-life crisis "poor me" crap.This coming from the guy who likes that whiney, cry-in-my-beer about having to work while sitting in my multi-million dollar house, "Save Me A Place"!

:laugh:

[skcin]

Just because you guys agree with each other, still doesn't make you right. :) :wavey: Ohmy god, you think Candlebright and It's Only Love and Bombay Sapphires and Love Is are great?
I don't like any of those songs much. Love Is is the best of the 4, but again, me no like those songs.


And just because you guys agree with each other doesn't mean you're right either. :xoxo: I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, it's all subjective. I'm just explaining why I like TISL better than SA.

[amber]

And just because you guys agree with each other doesn't mean you're right either. :xoxo: I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, it's all subjective. I'm just explaining why I like TISL better than SA.
Yes, it does. Sorry, those are the rules. :shrug: