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DavidMn
09-27-2005, 02:40 AM
Well, so we have the today show thing coming up tomorrow, which I will be watching, but it got me thinking. I really hope they don't do anything next year in any kind of a major way. I mean, no overkill please. Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 02:53 AM
Sorry, David but there is a Fleetwood Mac tour scheduled for the spring/summer. I am broke now anyway. I really hope that Lindsey does a solo tour but I guess we will have to see about that one.
I don't really want to see Stevie for a while but Lindsey I can't wait to see!
Sorry but I am so Stevied out!

amber
09-27-2005, 02:54 AM
Um..no, I'm not, and...is the Today show on at 7 am or 6 am? I've gotten conflicting reports online. :D :wavey:
Spanks!!!

*I'm not very prone to overkill. I'm extremely loyal to music I like. I've only recently gotten Stevie's solo albums (besides SA) and I've still been listening to FM/Stevie for like, 11 years......* Yes, that's the same songs for 11 years! God, I'm a great person!!! :lol:

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 02:55 AM
Sorry, David but there is a Fleetwood Mac tour scheduled for the spring/summer. I am broke now anyway. I really hope that Lindsey does a solo tour but I guess we will have to see about that one.
I don't really want to see Stevie for a while but Lindsey I can't wait.
Oh I know what u mean about being broke. For sure. What have u heard about this tour? I suppose its not much. I'll go of course if they come to Minneapolis or St.Paul, but probably not much more than that

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 02:57 AM
Um..no, I'm not, and...is the Today show on at 7 am or 6 am? I've gotten conflicting reports online. :D :wavey:
Spanks!!!
It starts at 7 am here central time. I figured I'd get slapped around a bit for this one.

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 02:59 AM
Oh I know what u mean about being broke. For sure. What have u heard about this tour? I suppose its not much. I'll go of course if they come to Minneapolis or St.Paul, but probably not much more than that

I have been hearing rumours about a LB tour for a while now but nothing in stone yet.
The Mac are touring and I think that is in stone just no dates yet. I really hope that they play my hometown of Providence, RI since they skipped it for the last 2 tours legs. :rolleyes:

amber
09-27-2005, 03:03 AM
It starts at 7 am here central time. I figured I'd get slapped around a bit for this one.
What do you mean, Slapped around? :confused:

That sucks, I would think it starts at seven here, but most stuff on TV says "8:00 Pacific, 7:00 central"

:rolleyes:
Whatevs, I'll get up before seven, but even Stevie can't get me up at 6:00. That's ungodly, and I know Stevie would agree. :cool:

Thank you! :wavey:

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:03 AM
I have been hearing rumours about a LB tour for a while now but nothing in stone yet.
The Mac are touring and I think that is in stone just no dates yet. I really hope that they play my hometown of Providence, RI since they skipped it for the last 2 tours legs. :rolleyes:
Where would they play there? is there an arena big enough?

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:04 AM
What do you mean, Slapped around? :confused:

That sucks, I would think it starts at seven here, but most stuff on TV says "8:00 Pacific, 7:00 central"

:rolleyes:
Whatevs, I'll get up before seven, but even Stevie can't get me up at 6:00. That's ungodly, and I know Stevie would agree. :cool:

Thank you! :wavey:Oh I just meant I figured I'd be criticized because some people might think I'm completely tires of them, which would NEVER happen. :lol:

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 03:07 AM
Where would they play there? is there an arena big enough?

The Dunkin Donuts Center (yes that is the name if it :laugh: )
If it was good enough for The Eagles last March and Springsteen this Oct then it is good for The Mac, too. :shrug:

amber
09-27-2005, 03:07 AM
Oh I just meant I figured I'd be criticized because some people might think I'm completely tires of them, which would NEVER happen. :lol:
er...I don't think you'll get many complaints. Tons of people who post here regularly don't listen to FM regularly. :)
But more importantly -
if you do -
who gives a rat's arse? *time to embrace your inner Aries*
:wavey:

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:09 AM
er...I don't think you'll get many complaints. Tons of people who post here regularly don't listen to FM regularly. :)
But more importantly -
if you do -
who gives a rat's arse? *time to embrace your inner Aries*
:wavey:
Youre right. I guess I try to please too much. not to be too controversial .Maybe I need to start being more of an A**HOLE :lol: I'm an Aries BTW. :D

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:11 AM
The Dunkin Donuts Center (yes that is the name if it :laugh: )
If it was good enough for The Eagles last March and Springsteen this Oct then it is good for The Mac, too. :shrug:
that sounds good. how many people does it hold?

amber
09-27-2005, 03:18 AM
Youre right. I guess I try to please too much. not to be too controversial .Maybe I need to start being more of an A**HOLE :lol: I'm an Aries BTW. :D
I know, that's why I said that.
And you need to step up to the Aries plate, I'm fricking more Arien than you, and I'm a Cancer, which is like the antiAries.
But that's just me, I don't like people who please. Unless they please me. :laugh: :wavey: :xoxo:
JK, JK.

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:19 AM
I know, that's why I said that.
And you need to step up to the Aries plate, I'm fricking more Arien than you, and I'm a Cancer, which is like the antiAries.
But that's just me, I don't like people who please. Unless they please me. :laugh: :wavey: :xoxo:
JK, JK.
That last part was tooo funny..... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

sparky
09-27-2005, 03:20 AM
Sorry, David but there is a Fleetwood Mac tour scheduled for the spring/summer.

OMG. Overkill.

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:21 AM
OMG. Overkill.
I would hope that there would be a new album out before any more tours.

LiquidBlue5000
09-27-2005, 03:24 AM
I have been hearing rumours about a LB tour for a while now but nothing in stone yet.
The Mac are touring and I think that is in stone just no dates yet. I really hope that they play my hometown of Providence, RI since they skipped it for the last 2 tours legs. :rolleyes:

I always figured it was because Providence is so close to Mansfield and they would rather play there for some reason (cheaper to rent out? who knows..)

sparky
09-27-2005, 03:26 AM
I would hope that there would be a new album out before any more tours.

If that band could crank out a new record by next spring, I would find a way to concieve a child and give birth to it MYSELF.

DavidMn
09-27-2005, 03:28 AM
If that band could crank out a new record by next spring, I would find a way to concieve a child and give birth to it MYSELF.
Some have told me I look like I could give birth...... :laugh: :laugh:

Ghost_Tracker
09-27-2005, 03:31 AM
[QUOTE=WelshWitchPMD]I have been hearing rumours about a LB tour for a while now but nothing in stone yet.
The Mac are touring and I think that is in stone just no dates yet

You know, I don't know about you guys but I'm beginning to form a
theory that Fleetwood Mac likes touring..... :rolleyes:

estranged4life
09-27-2005, 03:38 AM
Well, so we have the today show thing coming up tomorrow, which I will be watching, but it got me thinking. I really hope they don't do anything next year in any kind of a major way. I mean, no overkill please. Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?

burnt. Only hear/see 'em now when I am burning DVD's or recording TV appearrances nowadays (Havent played any FM related music at all as of late.)

Just needed a break, so I have taken it.

Johnny Stew
09-27-2005, 04:32 AM
Christmas of this year will officially mark twenty years since I became a die-hard fan (after years of hearing Stevie's and FM's songs on the radio and loving them, getting 'Rock A Little' for Christmas in 1985 really sparked my fandom), and I still haven't burned out on them. Not even close.

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 05:05 AM
Well, so we have the today show thing coming up tomorrow, which I will be watching, but it got me thinking. I really hope they don't do anything next year in any kind of a major way. I mean, no overkill please. Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?

Wow. I think you're probably one of very few people who wishes that Fleetwood Mac and its members would somehow be less prolific and productive.

The last time they put out an album was spring 2003. How could releasing an album or touring next year even remotely be seen as overkill? If anything, they're about due for something, whether it's a Mac album or solo projects from Lindsey and/or Stevie.

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 05:10 AM
I would hope that there would be a new album out before any more tours.

Especially after they made such a stink about bands like the Eagles touring incessantly with no new material to back it up.

I mean really, unless they were debuting a bunch of new material, what would even be the point of a Fleetwood Mac tour next year? It's not like they mix up their setlists at all (or even their arrangements). Besides the folks here who would pay to hear Stevie blow her nose into a microphone, who's going to pay for the same show they saw two years ago?

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 05:11 AM
The Dunkin Donuts Center (yes that is the name if it :laugh: )
If it was good enough for The Eagles last March and Springsteen this Oct then it is good for The Mac, too. :shrug:

Although Springsteen's show, I'm sure, will be only a half-arena set-up.

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 06:57 AM
Where would they play there? is there an arena big enough?


14.500 seats. The Eagles sold out here last March but I doubt Fleetwood Mac will.

Kelly
09-27-2005, 07:00 AM
Fleetwood Mac IS touring next spring and summer without a new album. I cannot see LB touring solo when he is touring with FM. I think he has pretty much said in interviews he would rather stick with FM and not do anything solo, as long as Stevie would agree to more Mac. He will make a bajillion dollars touring with Fleetwood Mac and lose money while saturating the market by touring alone. It is not too hard to figure out which option he will choose. (has chosen)

strandinthewind
09-27-2005, 07:07 AM
. . . I think he has pretty much said in interviews he would rather stick with FM and not do anything solo . . . .

I do not remember him saying this - last I heard he had done a bunch of writing on the road and had been recording that :shrug: I do, however, readily admit he is more marketable as FM - sadly FM is not that marketable in terms of CD sales (new material)

As for being burned out. I think this will be the last go around for FM if it indeed happens, which has yet to be seen. I say this based on their ages and the fact that any new record and subsequent tour would not happen until LB and La Nicks were 60 and John and Mick older than that. But, who knows, they may do it. I do think, however, La Nicks could release another solo record before then if she is so inclined.

In the end, I do not blame them if they want to retire though it saddens me not to hear new music from them.

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 07:08 AM
I always figured it was because Providence is so close to Mansfield and they would rather play there for some reason (cheaper to rent out? who knows..)


We have almost always been $*@(Ed by concerts in one way or the other. We were fine until The Worcester Centrum was built in 1982. Then Stevie and the Mac and everyone else would play there in New England and that was it.
Then in 1986 the Great Woods ampitheather was built and there went most of the shows in Eastern New England. :mad:
Fleetwood Mac (without LB) did play 3 dates at Great Woods in the early 1990s but they did come back to Providence on the fall leg.
I hope that they don't play the sheds this time. I am sick of losing out to Great Woods or the Tweeter center or whatever it's called now. I heard that The Mac wasn't very pleased with the way that things were run there on that last tour so I kind of hope that they skip it next tour. :laugh:

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 07:10 AM
If that band could crank out a new record by next spring, I would find a way to concieve a child and give birth to it MYSELF.

There will be no new record so you are safe! :nod:

WelshWitchPMD
09-27-2005, 07:12 AM
burnt. Only hear/see 'em now when I am burning DVD's or recording TV appearrances nowadays (Havent played any FM related music at all as of late.)

Just needed a break, so I have taken it.


I never listen to any music. Doesn't do much for me anymore burnt out on everything.

GODDESS6
09-27-2005, 07:19 AM
Well, so we have the today show thing coming up tomorrow, which I will be watching, but it got me thinking. I really hope they don't do anything next year in any kind of a major way. I mean, no overkill please. Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?
NEVER!!!~ i listen to or watch stevie/fm everyday, i never get tired or burned out on them~

HejiraNYC
09-27-2005, 09:34 AM
Fleetwood Mac IS touring next spring and summer without a new album. I cannot see LB touring solo when he is touring with FM. I think he has pretty much said in interviews he would rather stick with FM and not do anything solo, as long as Stevie would agree to more Mac. He will make a bajillion dollars touring with Fleetwood Mac and lose money while saturating the market by touring alone. It is not too hard to figure out which option he will choose. (has chosen)

Okay... maybe I am the one who blinked, but when did this tour thing go from rumor to fact?? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for them to be doing this. I think they have to at least give us time to miss them, or at least have some new music to promote. They can't get away with putting out yet another greatest hit set. Or yet another live album. I guess they are sort of mirroring their working lives against The Eagles, who have been touring incessantly after years of not working together, and without anything new to promote. I guess the next step will be following the Beach Boys model, where every member has their own incarnation of "Fleetwood Mac" or "Fleetwood Mac and Friends..." As much as I love to see them working, it is disheartening to see them open up this new chapter of their lives- the oldies circuit. But then again... James Taylor has been touring EVERY summer while still putting out new music every 4-5 years. Jimmy Buffett has been touring EVERY summer while putting out new music every 2-3 years. I dunno... looking on the bright side, perhaps this tour will sort of force Lindsey and Stevie to finally work collaboratively on new songs while they're on the road. And who knows... maybe they'll have the cajones to play them too! Hey, one can dream... :p

Miss Vicky
09-27-2005, 10:17 AM
To answer the original question....

I got Stevie'd out years ago and have been Mac'd out for little while as well. Though I still have no explanation for the listening of Timespace the other day. I don't know what got into me. I suppose it was the same psychotic/masochistic streak that made me buy Britney Spears' Greatest Hits. :lol: :distress:
I'm not quite Lindsey'd out, though. At least I don't think I am. I don't think I can be, but I haven't really listened to him in several weeks. Quite disappointed with "Shut Us Down" or whatever the hell that Elizabethtown song was called. Disappointed with the soundtrack in general, including the new Petty song. Now THAT was a shocker.
What can I say? I'm fickle. I get bored if I'm not given something new and exciting on a fairly regular basis.

dissention
09-27-2005, 10:24 AM
I never tire of Lindsey and Christine. Stevie's the only one I get a bit schizophrenic with. Her old stuff is ace and I listen to it frequently, but I'm sick of most post-1983 material because I don't find it to be very good.

danax6
09-27-2005, 10:26 AM
You know, I don't know about you guys but I'm beginning to form a theory that Fleetwood Mac likes touring..... :rolleyes:No, Mick likes money. And Stevie did once say that touring was the only way for Mick and John to earn some dollars, since they get basically nothing from album sales (no writer or producer credits).

Miss Vicky
09-27-2005, 10:29 AM
No, Mick likes money. And Stevie did once say that touring was the only way for Mick and John to earn some dollars, since they get basically nothing from album sales (no writer or producer credits).

Well, no, not the ONLY way.

There is always the wine... :eek:

Miss Vicky
09-27-2005, 10:31 AM
No, Mick likes money. And Stevie did once say that touring was the only way for Mick and John to earn some dollars, since they get basically nothing from album sales (no writer or producer credits).

Well, no, not the ONLY way.

There is always the wine... :eek:

Oh and trashy so-called autobiographies.

Raeven Skye
09-27-2005, 10:44 AM
I'm semi-Stevied-out...I'd really like something new to sing with, so I'm all over bootlegs and various live versions at the moment. While I enjoyed this summer's concert, I thought the marketing was bad: poor selection of t-shirts, no tour books, no buttons, etc. As has been mentioned elsewhere, I think that a lot of the time, Stevie caters to the least common denomenator regarding her set list, and forgets us diehards that would LOVE to hear damn-near anything other than "Landslide" again. I won't even listen to it on the radio anymore. I will always go see Stevie or the Mac if I can, but I'm laying off listening to the music right now.

danax6
09-27-2005, 11:45 AM
Btw, can't say that I am Stevie or FM'ed out. But maybe it's different for me since I live in Europe. I have to live vicariously through you guys when they are touring, because they won't come to this neck of the woods. I tried going to England last time they were there, but my work schedule wouldn't let me. Maybe this time, there's always hope. :)

wondergirl9847
09-27-2005, 11:49 AM
Sorry, David but there is a Fleetwood Mac tour scheduled for the spring/summer. I really hope that Lindsey does a solo tour but I guess we will have to see about that one.
I don't really want to see Stevie for a while but Lindsey I can't wait to see!

NO FM TOUR!!!!! :mad:

:laugh:

Sesly, no. I wanna see Lindsey, dangit!! I'm FMed out. If I can't see Lindsey, I may have to go midieval on someone's a$$.

catinthedark
09-27-2005, 11:50 AM
I would never get burnt out enough to shun any performances - live, TV, etc. I would go see Stevie solo or Lindsey solo or Fleetwood Mac every night if I could (okay, maybe then I'd get a little burnt). If they want to keep touring, I will keep going. (And I venture to guess most of you guys would too! Just wait til they start announcing dates! :laugh: ) I don't listen to their music every single day - I don't watch my videos or DVDs of their concerts or specials every single day. But I will never not be a fan - I will never not stop and listen if a song comes on the radio. I will never go on a road trip without at least 8 different CDs of commercial and bootlegged material of theirs to listen to. I can't wait to see Stevie tomorrow on Today - and if the tour rumours are true, can't wait til next summer! :nod:

Rickypt
09-27-2005, 12:21 PM
I never feel Stevie-ed out, but I also don't listen to her on a daily basis.

I will not be going to any 2006 Fleetwood Mac shows unless (1) Christine is with them, (2) they play small venues, or (3) they shake up their stale setlist.

Since my Giants have a better chance of winning the World Series this year than any of the above, I am not worried about saving my pennies.

I would much rather Stevie follow through with this Sydney symphony thing, as I'd strongly consider maxing out the credit cards for that experience.

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 12:28 PM
I will not be going to any 2006 Fleetwood Mac shows unless (1) Christine is with them, (2) they play small venues, or (3) they shake up their stale setlist.

Shall I meet you at the pub across the street from the arena just before showtime, then?

LiquidBlue5000
09-27-2005, 12:34 PM
Here are my thoughts on these tour plans next year.. This could actually be a good thing... If there are no new album plans (which i'm sure there aren't) this means that they can actually have fun with the set list... I do NOT think we will be getting the same SYW set list or anything close to it.. We all heard the rumours that "Storms", "Sisters Of The Moon", "Everybody Finds Out", "Angel", "Illume", etc, were considered for the SYW tour, but didn't make the cut... Since they will now officially be promoting, well, nothing, they can bust out these songs and do a completely different or at least somewhat different set (ala with what Stevie did on the "Enchanted" tour).

I'm looking forward to it... :nod:

my credit cards however, are not :distress:

SapphireSister
09-27-2005, 12:47 PM
If Stevie performs in my city I am there, with or without FM. Regardless of whether or not I'm sick of her (which rarely happens although I do tend to go through phases where I won't listen to her music because I'm burned out and sick of playing the same songs over and over) I would never pass up an opportunity to see her live!

David - perhaps you are Stevie/Mac'd out because you followed them all over the country for the past couple of years? That would be draining for anyone (both physically and financially) :).

Rickypt
09-27-2005, 12:52 PM
they can bust out these songs and do a completely different or at least somewhat different set (ala with what Stevie did on the "Enchanted" tour).

Or they can do ala with what Stevie did on the "Gold Dust" tour, which I think is much more likely. Enchanted was different because Stevie was touring behind an album; all the rarities were from the box set that had just been released.

I hope you're right, but there is no evidence to suggest that FM is ever willing to do anything different other than 1 or 2 surprises. Stevie might get up the nerve to do SOTM or Storms--in which case I may cough up $150 and BART out to the damn Concord Pavilion one last time.

Other than that, though, it's gonna be The Chain, Dreams, "welcome (name of city)",a Lindsey song like Eyes of the World or maybe Monday Morning if they're feeling especially ambitious, Never Going Back Again, Second Hand News, Rhiannon, some Lindsey song with a long guitar solo, Gypsy or Sara if we're lucky, Big Love, Landslide, a Lindsey song --probably from Tusk, Gold Dust Woman, something that Stevie hasn't done before or for a long time like Storms, I'm So Afraid, Tusk, Stand Back, Go Your Own Way, encore: they'll probably bring back Not That Funny with the endless Mick pounding on his pelvis, Don't Stop, and the only real surprise I can think of is what ballad they will end with. Maybe they'll move Landslide to the final song.

Richard B
09-27-2005, 01:14 PM
I love music. I love Stevie Nicks and Fleetwood Mac. But I have for years and years. I'm so passionate about music that I will suck it to the marrow, so to speak. So I do get sick of it after awhile. I have to take breaks. But I always come back to it. I just listened to Mirage after not hearing it for 2 years and loved it. It felt refreshing.

I tend to hardly listen to Steve's newer stuff anymore. I prefer her old demos and older albums. Although I do enjoy several tracks from OSOTM. But eventually after 1 or 2 years, I will throw in a more current album.

Also, this happens with other bands too. I play them to death, passionately then must put it down for awhile. A long while.

AliP
09-27-2005, 02:34 PM
Okay... maybe I am the one who blinked, but when did this tour thing go from rumor to fact??


You're not the only one. I usually just skim the boards nowadays, but this is the first I've heard of a confirmed tour. I know alot of things are confirmed first by the fans before an official announcement, but I'm just curious as to where this confirmation is coming from??

I am burned out on Stevie. My first love is Fleetwood Mac anyway, so I always get burned out on Stevie first. I go through stages of being burned out on FM. I was burned out on SYW. But I think if they tour in '06 I will be ready for another go-around.

LiquidBlue5000
09-27-2005, 02:48 PM
You're not the only one. I usually just skim the boards nowadays, but this is the first I've heard of a confirmed tour. I know alot of things are confirmed first by the fans before an official announcement, but I'm just curious as to where this confirmation is coming from??


from Kelly :lol:

ontheEdgeof17
09-27-2005, 03:02 PM
I never tire of Stevie or the 'Mac.

I listen to them every day. Actually, they are all I listen to...in one form or another. Street Angel I do listen to every, single day....I haven't heard a Christine album in awhile....and I'm on a giant Lindsey kick right now.


As for the tour, I hope it happens. I'm saving up! :thumbsup:

sparky
09-27-2005, 03:08 PM
I mean really, unless they were debuting a bunch of new material, what would even be the point of a Fleetwood Mac tour next year?

Ummmm, hello, retirement money. :laugh: :laugh:

dissention
09-27-2005, 03:10 PM
Ummmm, hello, retirement money. :laugh: :laugh:

Shit, I welcome their retirement if it means they'll finally be over and done with their oldies roadshow.

ShangriLaTroubl
09-27-2005, 03:18 PM
Oh I know what u mean about being broke. For sure. What have u heard about this tour? I suppose its not much. I'll go of course if they come to Minneapolis or St.Paul, but probably not much more than that


You probably have overkill more than some considering the amount of shows you have gone to

Chris

mikeschmike
09-27-2005, 04:18 PM
Shit, I welcome their retirement if it means they'll finally be over and done with their oldies roadshow.


Amen, brother.

diamondsnake
09-27-2005, 04:20 PM
I'm a little burnt out on Stevie/FM because I saw virtually the same show 4 times this summer (Although the shows were awesome) and there have been no new albums to listen to. There is nothing to be excited about right now, as far as I'm concerned. And there is no new music on the horizon. I want a new Stevie or a new FM album to listen to! It has been way too long. So, I've sort of set my Stevie obsession aside for a little while.

This happens every six months and then I become completely obsessed again listening to the same album over and over again. It goes in cycles!

Nicksluvver
09-27-2005, 05:02 PM
Here are my thoughts on these tour plans next year.. This could actually be a good thing... If there are no new album plans (which i'm sure there aren't) this means that they can actually have fun with the set list... I do NOT think we will be getting the same SYW set list or anything close to it.. We all heard the rumours that "Storms", "Sisters Of The Moon", "Everybody Finds Out", "Angel", "Illume", etc, were considered for the SYW tour, but didn't make the cut... Since they will now officially be promoting, well, nothing, they can bust out these songs and do a completely different or at least somewhat different set (ala with what Stevie did on the "Enchanted" tour).

I'm looking forward to it... :nod:

my credit cards however, are not :distress:

I also loved when Stevie did that on the boxed set tour! I would love to see FM do a setlist with those songs. Oh and for the record, I could never be Stevied/FM'd out , but if I listened 24 7 I would prob take a short break! LOL

Macfanforever
09-27-2005, 05:32 PM
A simple answer, No.that will never happen with me. my family and friends are getting tired of hearing about Stevie and Fleetwood Mac.

Dark Angel
09-27-2005, 06:06 PM
I've been burnt out on Stevie for quite awhile. I can only handle her work up till RAL anymore. As for FM, I'd much rather see Lindsey solo. There have been rumours floating around since early this year, some which I got from a scalper, that he was going to do a solo tour. In fact, at that time, scalpers were setting there prices. Normally when that happens, it means the artist is touring. Unfortunately, I've heard nothing since then. :(
As for another FM tour....only if Christine agrees to tour, or maybe if they bother to put out a new album.

Serrart
09-27-2005, 06:26 PM
Stevie and Fleetwood Mac are a very constant presence in my playlists , I go around with a lot of music (since I use every day public transport, there's a lot of time to kill) and half of it is Mac and Stevie, especially gigs.

Romy

AliceLover
09-27-2005, 06:41 PM
Since this is basically the last tour they will ever do, which it probably is, I don't see why people would be burned out. Either go to this or never see them again. At least thats how it plays out in my eyes.

ELIUD
09-27-2005, 06:47 PM
I don't get burnt out on artist, i.e. Stevie, Fleetwood Mac or whomever. But I do get burnt out on specific material. When that happens I just throw in a different CD or mix a new one with stuff I haven't paid attention to in a long while. It's time I mix a disc of just country-influenced songs by Stevie and FM. Those songs I never tire of.

As far as the tour goes, I'll believe it when its confirmed by an official press release and then I'll attend at least one show since I never miss them live.

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Since this is basically the last tour they will ever do, which it probably is, I don't see why people would be burned out. Either go to this or never see them again. At least thats how it plays out in my eyes.

So said people last time. I don't know why everybody's so insistent on completely writing off the band after every tour. So they're all hovering around age 60. They're not bedridden, people. All of them seem to be in very good health, and all of them seem to enjoy touring a great deal. There are plenty of people older than them out on the road playing gigs (Dylan comes to mind, first of all). Until they actually come out and say, "We're feeling pretty old and tired, we're not going to tour anymore after this next one," let's not be so quick to shuttle them off to the nursing home.

Jyqm
09-27-2005, 06:50 PM
It's time I mix a disc of just country-influenced songs by Stevie and FM. Those songs I never tire of.

Be sure to post the list you come up with if you do this!

AliceLover
09-27-2005, 06:52 PM
So said people last time. I don't know why everybody's so insistent on completely writing off the band after every tour. So they're all hovering around age 60. They're not bedridden, people. All of them seem to be in very good health, and all of them seem to enjoy touring a great deal. There are plenty of people older than them out on the road playing gigs (Dylan comes to mind, first of all). Until they actually come out and say, "We're feeling pretty old and tired, we're not going to tour anymore after this next one," let's not be so quick to shuttle them off to the nursing home.

thats true but before all the Two Voices and GD shows people were stand offish like this too and it ended up being fantastic shows. I hope a lot of people show for these new FM Shows!

MacMan
09-27-2005, 07:06 PM
thats true but before all the Two Voices and GD shows people were stand offish like this too and it ended up being fantastic shows. I hope a lot of people show for these new FM Shows!

We should all add "alleged" when we talk about new shows or tours.... cause there hasn't been any confirmation by anyone that any of the members will tour or that FM will tour, it's pure speculation at this point. Nothing is guaranteed.

AliceLover
09-27-2005, 07:13 PM
We should all add "alleged" when we talk about new shows or tours.... cause there hasn't been any confirmation by anyone that any of the members will tour or that FM will tour, it's pure speculation at this point. Nothing is guaranteed.

yeah I was also gunna say no one has provided any legit information.....

Sources anyone???

LiquidBlue5000
09-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Here's the problem with the way they handled "Say You Will".. they put out WAY too much material for just one album... 18 songs, plus bonus tracks.. What they should have done, was put out 12-13 songs then as "Say You Will" and hold the other 8-9 songs for another CD, which could have been released either this year or next year.. All they would need to do is come up with 2 or 3 more songs to make the album complete, and that wouldn't be that hard with all of Stevie and Lindsey's unreleased catalogs..

It was a very poor decision on their part to make "Say You Will" such a large release.. It wasn't neccessary.. It was overkill.. and now they are going on tour with nothing to promote - bad career move.

Enchanted_Stevi
09-27-2005, 07:21 PM
I am sooo not Stevie or Fleetwood Mac'd out! I never will be!

Johnny Stew
09-27-2005, 07:39 PM
I think it's cool that we're in an era in which people actually even could get burned out on FM/et al.

Was a time there when pickings were so slim from FM, that rumours of a possible tour would never have been met with apathy.

realcowgirl
09-27-2005, 07:43 PM
Well, so we have the today show thing coming up tomorrow, which I will be watching, but it got me thinking. I really hope they don't do anything next year in any kind of a major way. I mean, no overkill please. Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?

Sorry, but just the thought of the Mac or Stevie doing more touring has me jumping out of my skin - -whooohoooo!!! I can't get enough. Besides, I have something like 25 years to make up for! :D

Johnny Stew
09-27-2005, 07:49 PM
I'm not quite Lindsey'd out, though. At least I don't think I am. I don't think I can be, but I haven't really listened to him in several weeks. Quite disappointed with "Shut Us Down" or whatever the hell that Elizabethtown song was called.After I posted this morning, I realized that I am a bit on the verge of being worn out on Lindsey.

'Soundstage' was absolutely brilliant, but he's losing me with the direction of "Say Goodbye," "Red Rover" and "Shut Us Down." And it was a scary realization that some of my favorite 'Gift Of Screws' songs were actually the cover tunes.

But I suppose if there weren't decades-long spans of time between his releases, maybe it'd be easier for me to look past the songs that don't bowl me over.

ShangriLaTroubl
09-27-2005, 08:37 PM
Well it was just last year that Lindsey was talking down on bands like Eagles for touring with no albums

53yearoldpixie
09-27-2005, 08:59 PM
This is possible??? :shocked: No, never! My family... well, that's another story. :angel:

Originally Posted By Jyqm
I don't know why everyboy's so insistent on completely writing off the band after every tour. So they're all hovering around age 60. They're not bedridden, people.

Couldn't have said it better myself.



~*~ Gina ~*~

Hawkeye
09-27-2005, 09:29 PM
I have no problem with them touring next year (Ive heard NOTHING about this, how is it set in stone Patti?) Do you realize how old they're getting. They can make a new album at freaking 75 if they really wanted but they couldnt tour then, so they should tour as much as they freaking can now if thats what they want. And like liquidblue said, no new album opens up the set for more adventurous song choices. And I dont want to hear anyone say OH FLEETWOOD MAC OR STEVIE NICKS DONT MIX UP THEIR SETS cause they freaking do. Stevies Gold Dust Tour had Rock and Roll and Circle Dance and you still whined. And waht about Beautiful Child. I seriously cant stand all the knocking of their sets. They'res always one or two suprises and thats enough for me.

Regina
09-27-2005, 10:24 PM
And I'm able, I will go.

I do remember being on the Ledge when nothing whatsoever was on the horizon. We still were hopeful for something...anything. So, we've been really lucky now and they've been out there for quite a while (some more than others), but I have to say, when Stevie's little Gold Dust Tour ended (for me) in the beginning of July...I missed her the rest of the summer. I miss Lindsey like crazy. I would LOVE to see them all again. The sooner the better.

And they are nearing 60--which is in no way old--and they are (thankfully) healthy--but I wouldn't go kidding myself about the business side of show biz. It's a good time now because many, many "older" acts are coming out and they are relying on baby boomers (for the most part--I'm not discounting younger fans) to put out the cash. If they see that trend changing in any way (if we, as fans, stay home)...that will be the end of it. They might create music, they may even pop up somewhere in some small way--but it will never be the way it has been these past few years.

So...I'm getting in all the gusto while it's still out there to get;-)

ShangriLaTroubl
09-27-2005, 10:30 PM
I have no problem with them touring next year (Ive heard NOTHING about this, how is it set in stone Patti?) Do you realize how old they're getting. They can make a new album at freaking 75 if they really wanted but they couldnt tour then, so they should tour as much as they freaking can now if thats what they want. And like liquidblue said, no new album opens up the set for more adventurous song choices. And I dont want to hear anyone say OH FLEETWOOD MAC OR STEVIE NICKS DONT MIX UP THEIR SETS cause they freaking do. Stevies Gold Dust Tour had Rock and Roll and Circle Dance and you still whined. And waht about Beautiful Child. I seriously cant stand all the knocking of their sets. They'res always one or two suprises and thats enough for me.

Willie Nelson tours at 71!! why cant they?

Chris

Somajoseph
09-27-2005, 10:45 PM
Coming from a person with over a thousand posts-give me a break. I'm more burned out on David's posts than I ever would be of Fleetwood Mac. I loved Stevie's recent concert in the Bay Area, and I would love to see the Mac next summer. Sure, I'd love to see a few more surprises in the set, but I love them no matter what.

Joseph

ShangriLaTroubl
09-27-2005, 10:52 PM
Coming from a person with over a thousand posts-give me a break. I'm more burned out on David's posts than I ever would be of Fleetwood Mac.
Joseph


:laugh: I must say I have over a 1000 posts also, but I am not burned out in the least, otherwise I wouldnt be posting so much on a FLEETWOOD MAC message board--but thats just me

Chris

Miss Vicky
09-27-2005, 11:16 PM
After I posted this morning, I realized that I am a bit on the verge of being worn out on Lindsey.

Maybe I am getting Lindsey'd out and am in denial about it. I mean I STILL LOVE HIS MUSIC, but lately I just haven't been in the mood to hear it.

Sigh. :distress:

BTW, how do you like my new sig quote? :D

gldstwmn
09-27-2005, 11:27 PM
The Dunkin Donuts Center (yes that is the name if it :laugh: )
If it was good enough for The Eagles last March and Springsteen this Oct then it is good for The Mac, too. :shrug:

Hell, they played there almost 30 years ago, why not do it again? :laugh: I liked it much better when it was called the Providence Civic Center (so 70's :laugh: ).

Johnny Stew
09-27-2005, 11:31 PM
Maybe I am getting Lindsey'd out and am in denial about it. I mean I STILL LOVE HIS MUSIC, but lately I just haven't been in the mood to hear it.Despite my (unfair) reputation around here, I love Lindsey, too. So I feel your pain.

BTW, how do you like my new sig quote? :DI dig it, but I have a bit of a Pavlovian problem with the word "pizza"... it never fails to make me hungry. :o :laugh:

dissention
09-27-2005, 11:39 PM
Despite my (unfair) reputation around here, I love Lindsey, too. So I feel your pain.

I waffled a bit on "Shut Us Down" at first, went from hating it to liking it somewhat, but now I'm back to thinking it's one of his weakest efforts. I think the lyrics are pretty darn good, but that vocal is as cloying as Stevie's on When I See You Again. And you know me, I don't throw around words like that lightly. :laugh: His fussy guitar playing is getting to be kind of stale and the msuic itself simply clashes with way in which he chose to "sing" it. It almost sounds as if he was infected with severe ennui before recording it and just didn't give a shit about how it came out.

Johnny Stew
09-27-2005, 11:52 PM
I waffled a bit on "Shut Us Down" at first, went from hating it to liking it somewhat, but now I'm back to thinking it's one of his weakest efforts. I think the lyrics are pretty darn good, but that vocal is as cloying as Stevie's on When I See You Again. And you know me, I don't throw around words like that lightly. :laugh: His fussy guitar playing is getting to be kind of stale and the msuic itself simply clashes with way in which he chose to "sing" it. It almost sounds as if he was infected with severe ennui before recording it.I'm laughing my arse off despite myself at the "When I See You Again" comparison. :o
But perhaps not coincidentally, I seem to be one of only about three people who actually love his vocal on "Shut Us Down." That's the keeper part for me.

I just wish I didn't have to try to like the rest of the song. :distress:

dissention
09-27-2005, 11:58 PM
I'm laughing my arse off despite myself at the "When I See You Again" comparison. :o
But perhaps not coincidentally, I seem to be one of only about three people who actually love his vocal on "Shut Us Down." That's the keeper part for me.

I just wish I didn't have to try to like the rest of the song. :distress:

The vocal just flat-out annoys me. :laugh:

The whole thing is very weak to me and it makes me wonder about the new material that he supposedly started writing last year, considering that "Shut Us Down" is essentially a cover song with slightly augmented lyrics.

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-28-2005, 05:00 AM
I have been hearing rumours about a LB tour for a while now but nothing in stone yet.
The Mac are touring and I think that is in stone just no dates yet. I really hope that they play my hometown of Providence, RI since they skipped it for the last 2 tours legs. :rolleyes:
I've seen people talking on here about the Mac tour being set for next year. Where is this info from? Just curious

Pip

Jyqm
09-28-2005, 07:17 AM
And I dont want to hear anyone say OH FLEETWOOD MAC OR STEVIE NICKS DONT MIX UP THEIR SETS cause they freaking do. Stevies Gold Dust Tour had Rock and Roll and Circle Dance and you still whined. And waht about Beautiful Child. I seriously cant stand all the knocking of their sets. They'res always one or two suprises and thats enough for me.

Well Christ, I should certainly hope that they change at least two songs in their sets from TOUR to TOUR. I pity anyone with such low expectations of a band that they're satisfied when the setlist changes every two or three years.

One or two surprises is enough for me, too. But after three or four shows, the songs that were "surprises" on the first night of the tour no longer are. The setlist the first night of the SYW tour may have been slightly refreshing; that same setlist on the last night of the tour (or the last night of the first leg, before they switched out a few songs) was no longer surprising or fresh. I don't understand how you cna claim that they "freaking so" mix up their sets when they very clearly don't, and admit as much themselves.

My issues with Fleetwood Mac's live sets isn't so much the song choices (although that's part of it as well) as the insistence on playing the exact same set night in and night out for months and months. It's absolutely ridiculous that band with such a rich back catalogue and featuring such talented musicians plays the same 20 songs every night for a year or more. There's absolutely no reason for them not to change out even a handful of songs from night to night.

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 09:36 AM
Well Christ, I should certainly hope that they change at least two songs in their sets from TOUR to TOUR. I pity anyone with such low expectations of a band that they're satisfied when the setlist changes every two or three years.


Just a couple of thoughts on the subject:

A) Most people who go to see a band on tour will only catch one show, two at the most. So a new setlist doesn't make any difference for them.

B) Some of us are just glad to be able to see them play <i>anything</i> and aren't all that picky about <i>what</i> they play just so long as they're up there on the stage.

dissention
09-28-2005, 09:59 AM
B) Some of us are just glad to be able to see them play <i>anything</i> and aren't all that picky about <i>what</i> they play just so long as they're up there on the stage.

With such complacent consumers, it's no wonder they peddle the same boring product on a constant basis.

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 10:10 AM
With such complacent consumers, it's no wonder they peddle the same boring product on a constant basis.

Constant basis? Define constant. People are talking about them as if they're a band that goes out on the road every other summer when in reality they go several years with nothing truly new to offer. The band as we know it now (with and without Christine) has only toured twice in the last 20 years - The Dance and Say You Will. Before that it was for 1982's Mirage. :wavey:

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 10:12 AM
With such complacent consumers, it's no wonder they peddle the same boring product on a constant basis.But if someone is only seeing them once per tour, why is there a need for the band to constantly change their setlists?

If anyone is following the band around in this day and age, they have to know they're going to be seeing basically the same setlist at every show.
So why complain about that fact when it's our choice whether we go or not (or download the bootlegs or not)?

I don't want to sound bitter, but some of us don't even get to see one show per tour. So being sick of setlists is a foreign concept to me.
You might stand in that arena and roll your eyes and think, "Ugh, she's doing 'Edge Of Seventeen' AGAIN," but I'd be standing there thinking, "Oh my God, I'm actually seeing 'Edge Of Seventeen' LIVE!"

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 10:25 AM
If anyone is following the band around in this day and age, they have to know they're going to be seeing basically the same setlist at every show.
So why complain about that fact when it's our choice whether we go or not (or download the bootlegs or not)?


Amen.

I attended three shows on the Say You Will Tour, and yes they were essentially the exact same show three times, but was I annoyed? No. Why? Because it was great all three times and because there is the distinct possibility that those three shows are the only three Fleetwood Mac shows I'll ever get to go to.

If they tour again next summer I probably won't go. I already have plans that will eat up way too much of my finances to allow me that luxury as well.

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:32 AM
If anyone is following the band around in this day and age, they have to know they're going to be seeing basically the same setlist at every show.
So why complain about that fact when it's our choice whether we go or not (or download the bootlegs or not)?

I wouldn't know because I don't follow them around. It's a waste of money to do so when every show is the exact same as the last.

One would think that with such a catalog of killer songs, they'd do shows that reflected it. Throwing in a couple of new songs and one or two old chestnuts is great, but their problem is that they draw up a setlist and keep it for months. And they have a tendency to drop the new additions pretty quickly. It's pretty pathetic when you look at the ways in which their peers tour.

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:33 AM
Constant basis? Define constant. People are talking about them as if they're a band that goes out on the road every other summer when in reality they go several years with nothing truly new to offer. The band as we know it now (with and without Christine) has only toured twice in the last 20 years - The Dance and Say You Will. Before that it was for 1982's Mirage. :wavey:

Define constant? The same sets for months and months and months.

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 10:35 AM
Define constant? The same sets for months and months and months.After nothing for years and years and years.

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't know because I don't follow them around. It's a waste of money to do so when every show is the exact same as the last.


How many Say You Will shows did you go to?

Glittermoondust
09-28-2005, 10:39 AM
I don't think I'm burned out yet but I know my credit card is!! :lol: I just hope to get caught back up before they tour again........ and I am still in search of that perfect camera!! :p

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:39 AM
After nothing for years and years and years.

What a winning argument. :laugh: Not touring for years is no excuse for keeping the same exact setlist for ages with the same exact speeches and the same rehearsed movements and onstage pandering. It makes them look as if they don't really care to put effort into their tours.

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 10:42 AM
I wouldn't know because I don't follow them around. It's a waste of money to do so when every show is the exact same as the last.Well, there you go then... what does it really matter if they played in Peoria the same songs they played in Boston, if you're not wasting any money to see the same setlist over and over?

They could do an entire show of unreleased tunes and it won't do any of us a lick of good if we weren't there to see it. :shrug:

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:42 AM
How many Say You Will shows did you go to?

Three, if memory serves me correctly. The Boston taping (which I won tickets for), one of the Worchester shows, and the Mansfield show (which I was given a ticket to). I certainly wouldn't have gone to all of them if I had to pay for all the tickets.

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:44 AM
Well, there you go then... what does it really matter if they played in Peoria the same songs they played in Boston, if you're not wasting any money to see the same setlist over and over?

They could do an entire show of unreleased tunes and it won't do any of us a lick of good if we weren't there to see it. :shrug:

Because I would pay good money to see numerous shows if they changed their setlists like countless other bands. :shrug:

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 10:44 AM
Three, if memory serves me correctly. The Boston taping (which I won tickets for), one of the Worchester shows, and the Mansfield show (which I was given a ticket to). I certainly wouldn't have gone to all of them if I had to pay for all the tickets.

Boo f*cking hoo that you had to suffer through the same show three times when you only paid to see it once.

dissention
09-28-2005, 10:46 AM
Boo f*cking hoo that you had to suffer through the same show three times when you only paid to see it once.

I never said I suffered, wiseass, I said I wouldn't have paid money out of my own pocket to see the same show three times. There's quite a marked difference.

amber
09-28-2005, 10:54 AM
Because I would pay good money to see numerous shows if they changed their setlists like countless other bands. :shrug:
Or even their choreography.... :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17
09-28-2005, 10:57 AM
Or even their choreography.... :laugh:

Yeah...those stares and mic grabs are hard to do! It takes several tour dates to get them right. tee hee.


I did enjoy the SYW Dance for a bit.

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 10:57 AM
What a winning argument. :laugh: Not touring for years is no excuse for keeping the same exact setlist for ages with the same exact speeches and the same rehearsed movements and onstage pandering. It makes them look as if they don't really care to put effort into their tours.Lindsey recycles his speeches (though he had new ones for 'Say You Will') and we all know they're always going to do the "Landslide" hug. For this tour, they added that little "Tusk" dance and Stevie's little "Say You Will" dance.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what constitutes "the same rehearsed movements." Outside of hauling Paula Abdul in to choreograph the show, I'm not sure how much differently one can move after 30 some odd years. Even Tina Turner and Mick Jagger still dance the same way they did in the '60s.

And the same setlist for ages? By the second US leg, there were 13 songs in common with 'The Dance' (which happened six years prior to the 'Say You Will' tour) and 11 different songs (8 of which had never been performed on previous tours).

Very nearly half of the setlist was different to what they had played on the 'Dance' tour. :shrug:

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 10:59 AM
Because I would pay good money to see numerous shows if they changed their setlists like countless other bands. :shrug:Sweetie, it sounds to me like you should be thankful they don't wildly vary their setlists... it saves you a LOT of money that way! ;) :laugh:

dissention
09-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Lindsey recycles his speeches (though he had new ones for 'Say You Will') and we all know they're always going to do the "Landslide" hug. For this tour, they added that little "Tusk" dance.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what constitutes "the same rehearsed movements." Outside of hauling Paula Abdul in to choreograph the show, I'm not sure how much differently one can move after 30 some odd years. Even Tina Turner and Mick Jagger still dance the same way they did in the '60s.

And the same setlist for ages? By the second US leg, there were 13 songs in common with 'The Dance' (which happened six years prior to the 'Say You Will' tour) and 11 different songs (8 of which had never been performed on previous tours).

Very nearly half of the setlist was different to what they had played on the 'Dance' tour. :shrug:

This is just fruitless at this point. Let's agree to disagree.

Johnny Stew
09-28-2005, 11:02 AM
This is just fruitless at this point. Let's agree to disagree.I agreed with you in the Rumours Forum yesterday, so I couldn't let the trend continue! ;) :laugh: :xoxo:

dissention
09-28-2005, 11:02 AM
Sweetie, it sounds to me like you should be thankful they don't wildly vary their setlists... it saves you a LOT of money that way! ;) :laugh:

Well, yeah, look at those ticket prices; they're a bunch of greedy bastards. :laugh: And Lindsey has the audacity to feign ignorance when it comes to ticket prices, trying to say that he has nothing to do with them and doesn't really know how much they cost.

DavidMn
09-28-2005, 02:45 PM
Here's the funny thing. I remember saying last year that after going to 25 in 2003, I needed a break. Well, I ended up at 10 in '04, so what the hell do I know? :p I'm sure that if and when a new tour is announced, I'll get that fever again.

DavidMn
09-28-2005, 02:47 PM
But if someone is only seeing them once per tour, why is there a need for the band to constantly change their setlists?

If anyone is following the band around in this day and age, they have to know they're going to be seeing basically the same setlist at every show.
So why complain about that fact when it's our choice whether we go or not (or download the bootlegs or not)?

I don't want to sound bitter, but some of us don't even get to see one show per tour. So being sick of setlists is a foreign concept to me.
You might stand in that arena and roll your eyes and think, "Ugh, she's doing 'Edge Of Seventeen' AGAIN," but I'd be standing there thinking, "Oh my God, I'm actually seeing 'Edge Of Seventeen' LIVE!"
Alot of my friends were saying how bould I go to so many of the same whos all the time. I told them hald of it is seeing other fans in differeent cities, and just the fun of traveling from city to city.

DavidMn
09-28-2005, 02:48 PM
I don't think I'm burned out yet but I know my credit card is!! :lol: I just hope to get caught back up before they tour again........ and I am still in search of that perfect camera!! :p
Oh my, I see we have the same problem...... :wavey:

DavidMn
09-28-2005, 02:50 PM
And I'm able, I will go.

I do remember being on the Ledge when nothing whatsoever was on the horizon. We still were hopeful for something...anything. So, we've been really lucky now and they've been out there for quite a while (some more than others), but I have to say, when Stevie's little Gold Dust Tour ended (for me) in the beginning of July...I missed her the rest of the summer. I miss Lindsey like crazy. I would LOVE to see them all again. The sooner the better.

And they are nearing 60--which is in no way old--and they are (thankfully) healthy--but I wouldn't go kidding myself about the business side of show biz. It's a good time now because many, many "older" acts are coming out and they are relying on baby boomers (for the most part--I'm not discounting younger fans) to put out the cash. If they see that trend changing in any way (if we, as fans, stay home)...that will be the end of it. They might create music, they may even pop up somewhere in some small way--but it will never be the way it has been these past few years.

So...I'm getting in all the gusto while it's still out there to get;-)
You know, thats a really good point. I can remember back in '99 and 2000 I was wondering if this really was the end, and then we have the last 3 years. So, maybe I was wrong somewhat.

David
09-28-2005, 03:14 PM
Of course I still listen everyday, but I need a year and a half or so break from Albums/concerts Thoughts?I'm a little burnt out on FM, maybe, yes ... If somebody posts a WH soundboard, I'll love it all over again.

But I'm not burnt out on message board chatting with all you Fleetwood Macster lovers. This is what's really fun. It's like the marketplace in ancient Athens. I still love brushing cobwebs out of our nooks & crannies with Homer & Hector & Amber & Johnny & Janet & Regina & smacdoug & jbrowns & Danielle & Brian & Steve & Mikki & distension & strandie & the Seattle Irishman MacFuncken & even Jill & perhaps most of all Sugar!!

This is a lot more fun than just playing that dumb Tusk reissue again & trying to avoid being instantly narcotized.

DavidMn
09-28-2005, 03:28 PM
I'm a little burnt out on FM, maybe, yes ... If somebody posts a WH soundboard, I'll love it all over again.

But I'm not burnt out on message board chatting with all you Fleetwood Macster lovers. This is what's really fun. It's like the marketplace in ancient Athens. I still love brushing cobwebs out of our nooks & crannies with Homer & Hector & Amber & Johnny & Janet & Regina & smacdoug & jbrowns & Danielle & Brian & Steve & Mikki & distension & strandie & the Seattle Irishman MacFuncken & even Jill & perhaps most of all Sugar!!

This is a lot more fun than just playing that dumb Tusk reissue again & trying to avoid being instantly narcotized.
Oh I hear you!! I love coming here, even if I put my foot in my mouth occasionally.... :o

Jyqm
09-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Well, there you go then... what does it really matter if they played in Peoria the same songs they played in Boston, if you're not wasting any money to see the same setlist over and over?

For the record, I saw only one show on the SYW tour, and that's the only time I've seen Fleetwood Mac live. But I am probably one of the more vocal complainers of their stagnant setlists. So why do I care?

Because it sets a tone, and it sets a standard. It creates an atmosphere and a feeling that this is an active dynamic band and not just a travelling museum exhibit. No matter how much feeling they put into the songs that they do play on any given night, there's something distressingly stagnant about a Fleetwood Mac (or Stevie) show. If they mixed up their setlists, whether or not I was at a show where they played a certain rarity wouldn't especially matter, because that sets a tone for the band and for future shows, it sends a message that this is a living and breathing and changing experience, and we as a band are here to give you something unique that other people haven't experienced before - this is just for you. As it is, though, their concerts come off as little more than a prepackaged product, ready to be delivered to waiting consumers. It's a Broadway musical, everybody's memorized their lines, and they're ready to bring the same show to every city in the country. And that may be fine for a Broadway musical, but as far as I'm concerned, that's not what rock concerts are supposed to be about.

I don't think this is an argument about who can afford to go to how many shows. It's an argument about the band's attitude toward their art and what they think its role in a live setting should be.

diamondsnake
09-28-2005, 04:25 PM
I'm officially Stevie obsessed again. Her performance on the Today show was enough to charge my Fleetwood Mac battery for a while. :)

lagringader&r
09-28-2005, 06:55 PM
I'm officially Stevie obsessed again. Her performance on the Today show was enough to charge my Fleetwood Mac battery for a while. :)


Yep, me too. I am Mac'd out and think a tired old stale tour next year which will probably be a repeat of last year and the year before could be time better spent in either recording a new cd, Stevie recording a new solo cd and touring (my first choice) and for the Lindsey fans, him recording one. I think them getting out there touring for the hell of it isn't good business and I'm ready for some new music! I am not Stevie'd out tho. Never!

Miss Vicky
09-28-2005, 11:32 PM
I never said I suffered, wiseass, I said I wouldn't have paid money out of my own pocket to see the same show three times. There's quite a marked difference.

Sorry, I was in a nasty mood when I posted that.

It's just that there are some times when I find your superiority complex amusing... and this morning just wasn't one of those times. :laugh:

estranged4life
09-29-2005, 12:43 AM
it sounds to me like you should be thankful they don't wildly vary their setlists... it saves you a LOT of money that way! ;) :laugh:

make it easy to list the setlists of the bootlegs of the shows...Just cut & paste the info and change the date/venue info :rolleyes: