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StreetAngel86
09-23-2005, 01:07 PM
spot the difference people

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/lotus.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/wildflower.jpg

Can't say i care that much for Sheryl but i used to like some of her songs, so in that respect i can like her in ISOLATION of Stevie

However, I don't think imitation is flattery here
You can't imitate perfection hon!

dissention
09-23-2005, 01:11 PM
I don't think she's trying to imitate Stevie, I think she's trying to make her new album look as good as possible because the actual content of it is atrocious. As a big Sheryl fan, I never thought I'd hear such a horrific excuse for an album from her.

LilyRose
09-23-2005, 01:21 PM
I don't know if she's purposely trying to imitate Stevie...but I like Sheryl's picture better. Sorry. I just like the flowers and the color scheme.

Susie

amber
09-23-2005, 01:21 PM
The difference is, Sheryl's face is less photoshopped.

ELIUD
09-23-2005, 01:21 PM
I like the ablum art. The composition is similar to Stevie's promo poster but it's not a direct rip-off.

LiquidBlue5000
09-23-2005, 01:23 PM
Is Sheryl obsessed with Stevie?? i wouldn't say "obsessed"... but i would say that she likes to tap into Stevie's fanbase to get a stronger, more loyal one herself... and by the looks of how many Sheryl posts there are around here (in a Stevie forum no less), i see her vicious plan is working :nod:

Neal
09-23-2005, 01:29 PM
Uh, who isn't obsessed with Stevie? :rolleyes: ;)

Ghost_Tracker
09-23-2005, 01:50 PM
Pssst - This is a "Tantric" picture! :shocked:

Don't get me started about Stevie's DRAWINGS! LMAO! :lol:

In my opinion, if Sheryl's saying anything, it's

"I second the motion!" :eek:

skcin
09-23-2005, 02:01 PM
Let's not get started on this, people. Next thing you know someone will chime in & insist they were lovers at one point. :rolleyes:

Is the pic similar? Sure. Is it inspired by Stevie? Perhaps. Is it "copying" or imitating Stevie? IMO, no. :shrug:

gldstwmn
09-23-2005, 02:16 PM
You mean, any more than the rest of us? :lol:

shackin'up
09-23-2005, 02:21 PM
Uh, who isn't obsessed with Stevie? :rolleyes: ;)

...............me............

shackin'up
09-23-2005, 02:23 PM
The difference is, Sheryl's face is less photoshoped.


:confused:

her face is photoshopped "live"....that's more make-up then i can carry on my back.... :eek:

reebokandlace
09-23-2005, 02:29 PM
Let's not get started on this, people. Next thing you know someone will chime in & insist they were lovers at one point. :shrug:


No...no...no ---- no one this board would want to over-state the OBVIOUS! :nod:


Besides, It's perfectly normal behavior between friends to hold each other very very very close for photo ops at award shows....sure...women lock themselves into hotel rooms for days on end....of course friends have little lover spats in public all the time---and then after they are no longer speaking to rip off your old friends concept for the cover of your new CD by inverting the color scheme--- yep, yep, wouldn't want to overstate.....

Dreammms
09-23-2005, 02:29 PM
The difference is, Sheryl's face is less photoshoped.

I really like Sheryl Crow and think she is very beautiful but when she was on Overhaulin' with Lance she had NO make up on at all. She had tons of bags and wrinkly skin. So yes I think that picture of her is photo shopped A LOT.

EDIT~ I just wanted to add that I like Sheryl's picture way more than Stevie's.

dissention
09-23-2005, 02:31 PM
I really like Sheryl Crow and think she is very beautiful but when she was on Overhaulin' with Lance she had NO make up on at all. She had tons of bags and wrinkly skin. So yes I think that picture of her is photo shopped A LOT.

At least her arms look normal, though. Stevie's are quite freakishly photoshopped in the above pic. We all know homegirl has quite the waddle under her arms.

Dreammms
09-23-2005, 02:34 PM
At least her arms look normal, though. Stevie's are quite freakishly photoshopped in the above pic. We all know homegirl has quite the waddle under her arms.


:lol: :lol: Wow. To tell you the truth I never really looked at Stevie's arms in that pic. You are so right. Look how straight her arms look too. At least Sheryl's arms have some shape to them.

Ghost_Tracker
09-23-2005, 02:35 PM
The difference is, Sheryl's face is less photoshoped.


But - but - but -

so Stevie doesn't really look like that!??? :eek:

*covers ears to protect them from the loud crash of his bubbles bursting*

:D :shrug:

Wildflower
09-23-2005, 02:40 PM
Let's not get started on this, people. Next thing you know someone will chime in & insist they were lovers at one point. :rolleyes:


Well, since you brought it up.....perhaps they were. Seems to be a lot of rumors to that effect floating around. They did seem to spend an awful lot of time together during "TISL," showing up at each other's concerts, benefits and impromptu gigs.

How about their duet of "You're Not the One" -- to each other after a tiff, perhaps?

It takes guts to invite one of your exes to sing at your wedding!

RockALittle250
09-23-2005, 02:43 PM
and then after they are no longer speaking to rip off your old friends concept for the cover of your new CD by inverting the color scheme---

Do you mean they are no longer speaking because they have not seen each other for a long time, or that they had a falling out??

macfanken
09-23-2005, 02:48 PM
Let's not get started on this, people. Next thing you know someone will chime in & insist they were lovers at one point. :rolleyes:




Well... they were!! :lol:

cliffdweller
09-23-2005, 02:50 PM
I don't think she's trying to imitate Stevie, I think she's trying to make her new album look as good as possible because the actual content of it is atrocious. As a big Sheryl fan, I never thought I'd hear such a horrific excuse for an album from her.

Awwww, I'm sorry to hear that. I had high hopes. What's it like?

dissention
09-23-2005, 02:59 PM
Awwww, I'm sorry to hear that. I had high hopes. What's it like?

Syrupy sweet ballads and midtempo tracks that all sound alike. Out of the whole album, there's only one rocker ("Live It Up") and it's still more of a sunny pop song than anything else. The lyrics are what makes it a truly horrendous affair, though; they have none of her trademark wit or observations of society. Instead, she drones on about newfound love as if Diane Warren took her over a la "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." It's an embarrassment through and through.

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 03:00 PM
INVASION OF THE SHERYL CROW THREADS!! PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP :p .
Ha ha Stevie and Sheryl lovers?...in our dreams (for Stevie to be in love with a woman, that is).

I highly doubt she's obsessed with Stevie. According to Stevie's last interview with Jim Ladd I got the impression she wasn't even returning her calls and Stevie even said something to the affect of "Sheryl if you're out there call me". I think she's in Lance land and not caring too much about Stevie right now.

HejiraNYC
09-23-2005, 03:24 PM
Actually, my initial take was that there were some elements of Joni Mitchell's "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" on there (maybe it's that vague infected mucous green theme :eek: ) :


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002GY2.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/wildflower.jpg

amber
09-23-2005, 03:26 PM
I really like Sheryl Crow and think she is very beautiful but when she was on Overhaulin' with Lance she had NO make up on at all. She had tons of bags and wrinkly skin. So yes I think that picture of her is photo shopped A LOT.

EDIT~ I just wanted to add that I like Sheryl's picture way more than Stevie's.

Yeah, it's shopped, but not as much. :D

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah, it's shopped, but not as much. :D

Photoshop or no photoshop, Stevie beautiful, Sheryl not IMHO. I'm just not a fan.

DWIG
09-23-2005, 03:40 PM
Just had to reply to this stupid thread. Have loved Stevie since i was 15 (am now 40!!!) and have liked Sheryl a lot since Tuesday Night!

Wildfower is fantastic (and i'm sure Stevie would agree with me!)

Sheryl appreciates the wonderful STEVIE NICKS, that we all appreciate

Please don't slag Sheryl just because she is influenced by the goddess!

Sheryl is amazing in her own right and has the right attitude towards giving credit where credit is due!

here's hoping Stevie does in fact sing Landslide aat Sheryl & Lance's wedding!

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 03:42 PM
If Sheryl is trying to imitate Stevie, she really shouldn't. There is just no comparision. Look at Stevie's eyes in this shot - she is commanding, powerful, strong. The background has strong, vibrant colors with beautiful, meaningful images and extensive detail. This shot is spiritual and one of her best IMO. It really captures Stevie's essence.

On the other hand Sheryl is just sitting there was a pretty little smile on her face with some drawings in the background. At least if she was trying to imitate Stevie she could have come up with something slighly more creative. Very unimpressive IMO. This is like comparing a girl and a woman.

ELIUD
09-23-2005, 03:48 PM
I'm sure any similaritie's people may find between the two images are purely coincidental. But these "Stevie is a lesbian and doing every woman she lays her hands on" rumors are a real beating and make gay people look bad.

dissention
09-23-2005, 03:59 PM
If Sheryl is trying to imitate Stevie, she really shouldn't. There is just no comparision. Look at Stevie's eyes in this shot - she is commanding, powerful, strong. The background has strong, vibrant colors with beautiful, meaningful images and extensive detail. This shot is spiritual and one of her best IMO. It really captures Stevie's essence.

On the other hand Sheryl is just sitting there was a pretty little smile on her face with some drawings in the background. At least if she was trying to imitate Stevie she could have come up with something slighly more creative. Very unimpressive IMO. This is like comparing a girl and a woman.

Take a minute to actually look at each of the photos. Thematically, they couldn't be any more different. They aren't just "some drawings in the background," they're obviously meant to represent a transition from living in darkness to moving on and living in light and happiness.

In no way is she trying to imitate Stevie, that's ludicrous.

ontheEdgeof17
09-23-2005, 04:02 PM
Sheryl has a man face.

RockALittle250
09-23-2005, 04:04 PM
Sheryl has a man face.

LOL!!! :laugh:

sparky
09-23-2005, 04:10 PM
At least her arms look normal, though. Stevie's are quite freakishly photoshopped in the above pic. We all know homegirl has quite the waddle under her arms.

OMG. Totally. :laugh:

I never noticed that. They took away about 30% of each arm. Good eye.

sparky
09-23-2005, 04:14 PM
If Sheryl is trying to imitate Stevie, she really shouldn't. There is just no comparision. Look at Stevie's eyes in this shot - she is commanding, powerful, strong. The background has strong, vibrant colors with beautiful, meaningful images and extensive detail. This shot is spiritual and one of her best IMO. It really captures Stevie's essence.

On the other hand Sheryl is just sitting there was a pretty little smile on her face with some drawings in the background. At least if she was trying to imitate Stevie she could have come up with something slighly more creative. Very unimpressive IMO. This is like comparing a girl and a woman.

Umm.....very little to do with the women. Who Art Directed these photos ?
That's the person being discussed.

Livia
09-23-2005, 04:21 PM
Sheryl was on Letterman last nite and he held up her CD, I couldn't see the details very well, if Sheryl was sitting or not, but I thought, "Wow, that kinda looks like the Stevie poster."

Influenced by Stevie? Definitely! Obsessed? No.

cliffdweller
09-23-2005, 04:27 PM
Syrupy sweet ballads and midtempo tracks that all sound alike. Out of the whole album, there's only one rocker ("Live It Up") and it's still more of a sunny pop song than anything else. The lyrics are what makes it a truly horrendous affair, though; they have none of her trademark wit or observations of society. Instead, she drones on about newfound love as if Diane Warren took her over a la "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." It's an embarrassment through and through.

Yikes. So, it's like another C'mon C'mon but with less rocking songs? Hmmmm....this isn't sounding so good. I'm wondering too, if her "trademark wit" wasn't really just a product of Jeff Trott? When she goes it alone the lyric content isn't as sharp.

rbs3676
09-23-2005, 04:28 PM
That's one of my favorite shots of Stevie, actually.

And I totally dig THE HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS...great Joni release!!! :thumbsup:

rbs

dissention
09-23-2005, 04:38 PM
Yikes. So, it's like another C'mon C'mon but with less rocking songs? Hmmmm....this isn't sounding so good. I'm wondering too, if her "trademark wit" wasn't really just a product of Jeff Trott? When she goes it alone the lyric content isn't as sharp.

I don't know, I thought C'mon C'mon had some very sharp lyrical content hidden behind all of the schmaltz. And tracks like "It's Only Love" and "Weather Channel" were so breathtakingly amazing that they overshadowed crap like "It's So Easy" and "Over You."

"Live It Up" is a shameful rip-off of "There Goes the Neighborhood," wait until you hear it, and "Good Is Good" steals from Bowie. :nod: She just has no edge on this new record. It's boring.

reebokandlace
09-23-2005, 05:11 PM
I'm sure any similaritie's people may find between the two images are purely coincidental. But these "Stevie is a lesbian and doing every woman she lays her hands on" rumors are a real beating and make gay people look bad.



http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sehrgrosse/large-smiley-012.gif

Two beautiful women (like Stevie and Sheryl) having a sexual relationship makes other gays look bad????? ROFLMAO!!!

Johnny Stew
09-23-2005, 05:19 PM
Two beautiful women (like Stevie and Sheryl) having a sexual relationship makes other gays look bad????? ROFLMAO!!!No, but assuming every same-gender set of friends must be having a sexual relationship, does. :shrug:

cliffdweller
09-23-2005, 05:20 PM
And tracks like "It's Only Love" and "Weather Channel" were so breathtakingly amazing that they overshadowed crap like "It's So Easy" and "Over You."

Indeed. You picked my two favorites on that album.

Serrart
09-23-2005, 05:33 PM
Maybe they're both obsessed with Siddharta? ;) It isn't really an unusual theme or image.

Romy

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 06:05 PM
Take a minute to actually look at each of the photos. Thematically, they couldn't be any more different. They aren't just "some drawings in the background," they're obviously meant to represent a transition from living in darkness to moving on and living in light and happiness.

In no way is she trying to imitate Stevie, that's ludicrous.

I didn't say she was trying to imitate Stevie, I said if she is trying. Isn't that the point of this entire thread? (the person who started it used this as an example of Sheryl being obsessed so I'm assuming he meant to compare the 2 images). I could care less to be honest if she was or wasn't. Also, I probably did underestimate the representation of the artwork by calling them "some drawings in the background" but I can't help it. I really dislike Sheryl Crow so it's hard for me to be objective, especially when being compared to Stevie :).

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 06:06 PM
Umm.....very little to do with the women. Who Art Directed these photos ?
That's the person being discussed.

But were the photos not used as an example?

strandinthewind
09-23-2005, 06:09 PM
Take a minute to actually look at each of the photos. Thematically, they couldn't be any more different. They aren't just "some drawings in the background," they're obviously meant to represent a transition from living in darkness to moving on and living in light and happiness.

In no way is she trying to imitate Stevie, that's ludicrous.

I agree, but the overall photos apparently are so similar in the first glance that people give them a double take :shrug: I certainly did. But, who knows, that photo/pose of Crow's could have been around prior to TISL anfd La Nicks lifted from it :laugh:

In the end. they are both pretty cool.

Also, is that some yoga position?

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 06:09 PM
Just had to reply to this stupid thread.

I could not agree more!

Sheryl has a man face.

And horse teeth...

dissention
09-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Stevie beautiful, Sheryl not IMHO.

I think Sheryl's very beautiful, ever since she I saw the video for "If It Makes You Happy." She's not a classic beauty, but then neither is Stevie, who I find very plain.

dissention
09-23-2005, 06:29 PM
Also, is that some yoga position?

I don't know, it looks like they're just sitting Indian style to me. :laugh:

jkmaletic
09-23-2005, 06:34 PM
I think Sheryl's very beautiful, ever since she I saw the video for "If It Makes You Happy." She's not a classic beauty, but then neither is Stevie, who I find very plain.

Who do you think is beautiful? (and PLEASE don't say Jessica Simpson- talk about horse teeth! :rolleyes: )

Just curious.

~Jamie

markolas
09-23-2005, 06:36 PM
Is Sheryl obsessed with Stevie?? i wouldn't say "obsessed"... but i would say that she likes to tap into Stevie's fanbase to get a stronger, more loyal one herself... and by the looks of how many Sheryl posts there are around here (in a Stevie forum no less), i see her vicious plan is working :nod:

Well, I was a fan of Sheryl way before I really knew who Stevie Nicks was. :shrug:

SapphireSister
09-23-2005, 06:37 PM
I think Sheryl's very beautiful, ever since she I saw the video for "If It Makes You Happy." She's not a classic beauty, but then neither is Stevie, who I find very plain.

I find a lot of women attractive who are not classic beauties - Sheryl is just not one of them. She does indeed have moments where she looks o.k. but in general I'm not a fan of her looks or music.

I agree, Stevie is not a classic beauty but she has so many other things about her that are attractive so that makes her beautiful to me.

BlackWidow
09-23-2005, 06:39 PM
:shrug: spot the difference people

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/lotus.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/wildflower.jpg

Can't say i care that much for Sheryl but i used to like some of her songs, so in that respect i can like her in ISOLATION of Stevie

However, I don't think imitation is flattery here
You can't imitate perfection hon!
I see no correlation here... :shrug:

danax6
09-23-2005, 06:42 PM
I don't think Sheryl needs to tap into Stevie's fanbase in order to be successful (as some have insinuated), and I don't really think that that was her intention. I've never been a big fan of Sheryl, and their friendship is not really all that interesting to me. I'm glad Stevie found a friend in her, as I wish her all the best in the world, but all that 'kindred spirit' stuff gets old very fast. Yaaawn.

bikerchic
09-23-2005, 06:55 PM
At least her arms look normal, though. Stevie's are quite freakishly photoshopped in the above pic. We all know homegirl has quite the waddle under her arms.
Good observation man. I've looked at that picture about a 100 times and never noticed that before. They took away half her arm but left the chiffon sleeve! :laugh:

nicksnut
09-24-2005, 12:35 AM
I think Sheryl's very beautiful, ever since she I saw the video for "If It Makes You Happy." She's not a classic beauty, but then neither is Stevie, who I find very plain.

lets see what sheryl looks like when she is 56 or 57. then it would be more fair to compare, if it would ever be fair to compare two different performers with two different voices and styles, and very different life experiences, from two different generations.........jmo

sparky
09-24-2005, 12:41 AM
But were the photos not used as an example?

What I am saying is that these phots were shipped off to an Art Director who designed around them. I don't think Stevie or Sheryl is all that hands on involved in the covers of their records or publicity stills. The ideas and execution come almost exclusively from hired hands.

LongBlackScarf
09-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Sheryl has a man face.

She's a MAN, BABY!! :nod: Stevie at her Elmer Fuddiest Worst is better than Sheryl Crow. The woman is absolutely horrendous as a singer. I can't understand a word she's singing. She needs to take that--- whatever it is outta her mouth first. :p And yes I have a couple of her records. Why I don't know. :woohoo: She's one of these "non-singers" who break into your house at 4 a.m. and massage your scalp in your deepest sleep and make you buy their freakishly bad albums. :lol:

dissention
09-24-2005, 01:05 AM
She's a MAN, BABY!! :nod: Stevie at her Elmer Fuddiest Worst is better than Sheryl Crow. The woman is absolutely horrendous as a singer. I can't understand a word she's singing. She needs to take that--- whatever it is outta her mouth first. :p And yes I have a couple of her records. Why I don't know. :woohoo: She's one of these "non-singers" who break into your house at 4 a.m. and massage your scalp in your deepest sleep and make you buy their freakishly bad albums. :lol:

I'm beginning to wonder if any of you people have actually heard any of her albums. To say that Sheryl Crow is a "horrendous singer" and a "non-singer" on a Stevie Nicks message board is the ultimate in irony. :laugh:

LongBlackScarf
09-24-2005, 01:33 AM
Okay okay. Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow both have absolutely craptacular voices. There. I said they were both spectacular. What do you mean that's not what you see on your screen? Get some Windex!!! :p

gldstwmn
09-24-2005, 01:35 AM
I agree, but the overall photos apparently are so similar in the first glance that people give them a double take :shrug: I certainly did. But, who knows, that photo/pose of Crow's could have been around prior to TISL anfd La Nicks lifted from it :laugh:

In the end. they are both pretty cool.

Also, is that some yoga position?

It's sort of a lotus position but not really.

LiquidBlue5000
09-24-2005, 01:42 AM
I don't think Sheryl needs to tap into Stevie's fanbase in order to be successful (as some have insinuated), and I don't really think that that was her intention.


She didn't try to tap into Stevie's fanbase to be "successful", she did it to try to get a "loyal fanbase".. there's a distinct difference between the two..

Sheryl can sell 12 cups of lemonade for $.35, while Stevie would struggle to sell 2 cups... that isn't the point..

but Stevie has that mystical quality that Sheryl simply does not have... Sheryl has fans, yes... but are they the type of fans who will travel from New York to Las Vegas to see 1 concert? nahh.. are they the type of fans who who will follow her around on tour from city to city? nahh..

There's a reason why Sheryl Crow does not play at Madison Square Garden... because she can't..

dissention
09-24-2005, 01:45 AM
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There's a reason why Sheryl Crow does not play at Madison Square Garden... because she can't..

Neither can Stevie, though. The last time she played there as a solo artist was 20 years ago.

The size of the venues don't have much to do with how devoted your fanbase is.

LiquidBlue5000
09-24-2005, 01:53 AM
Neither can Stevie, though. The last time she played there as a solo artist was 20 years ago.

The size of the venues don't have much to do with how devoted your fanbase is.


I agree to a point. But considering how many millions of more records Sheryl has sold over Stevie in her career, don't you think at this point, that she should be able to play those big venues consistantly??? :shrug:

What if Ms. Crow never has another hit record? where will SHE be in 20 years from now?

will she have diehard fans the way Stevie does?? Stevie hasn't had a hit in 20 years... and she's still playing big venues..

There is something to be said for that...

and there's also something wrong with the fact that Ms. Crow easily can outsell Stevie in record sales, but not on the road... it's not as if Stevie has this amazing road act that she's known for or anything..

sparky
09-24-2005, 02:28 AM
It's sort of a lotus position but not really.

If Stevie hiked her flippers up onto her respective knees into a real lotus position, she'd probably be in for some serious hip trouble.

StreetAngel86
09-24-2005, 02:42 AM
Pssst - This is a "Tantric" picture! :shocked:

Don't get me started about Stevie's DRAWINGS! LMAO! :lol:

In my opinion, if Sheryl's saying anything, it's

"I second the motion!" :eek:

ooooooooooooooh god
im sorry i posted this LOL
Stevieness only tantric with ONE person and it AINT Sheryl :D

StreetAngel86
09-24-2005, 02:47 AM
Sheryl was on Letterman last nite and he held up her CD, I couldn't see the details very well, if Sheryl was sitting or not, but I thought, "Wow, that kinda looks like the Stevie poster."

Influenced by Stevie? Definitely! Obsessed? No.


yah i saw her on Letterman which is where I saw the CD cover and thought hmmm that looks familiar

i only say she's obsessed with stevie unconsciously coz she CANT HAVE HER :eek: lol

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 03:54 AM
spot the difference people

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/lotus.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/DesertAngel86/wildflower.jpg

Can't say i care that much for Sheryl but i used to like some of her songs, so in that respect i can like her in ISOLATION of Stevie

However, I don't think imitation is flattery here
You can't imitate perfection hon!
Aprt from sitting cross legged I don't think they are the same at all. :shrug:

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 03:55 AM
Is Sheryl obsessed with Stevie?? i wouldn't say "obsessed"... but i would say that she likes to tap into Stevie's fanbase to get a stronger, more loyal one herself... and by the looks of how many Sheryl posts there are around here (in a Stevie forum no less), i see her vicious plan is working :nod:
Complete tosh! Sheryl has a pretty huge fan base herself and believe me.. they are loyal enough without Stevie. You should take a trip over to Sheryl's board and you will notice that it gets plenty of Stevie posts too

Pip

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 03:58 AM
In no way is she trying to imitate Stevie, that's ludicrous.
:nod: :xoxo:

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 04:02 AM
I agree to a point. But considering how many millions of more records Sheryl has sold over Stevie in her career, don't you think at this point, that she should be able to play those big venues consistantly??? :shrug:

What if Ms. Crow never has another hit record? where will SHE be in 20 years from now?

will she have diehard fans the way Stevie does?? Stevie hasn't had a hit in 20 years... and she's still playing big venues..

There is something to be said for that...

and there's also something wrong with the fact that Ms. Crow easily can outsell Stevie in record sales, but not on the road... it's not as if Stevie has this amazing road act that she's known for or anything..
What is the big deal with playing big venues? Maybe she prefers not to? Speaking as someone who has seen her at a very small intimate venue I have to say I prefered it that way.

And I still say she has very loyal fans...at least she is performing over here in the UK. Same can't be said for Stevie :( It isn't just about what's happening in the US you know ;)

LiquidBlue5000
09-24-2005, 04:23 AM
What is the big deal with playing big venues? Maybe she prefers not to? Speaking as someone who has seen her at a very small intimate venue I have to say I prefered it that way.


I do prefer that as well... however, this is a business. Do you honestly believe that Sheryl doesn't perform at the big venues because she simply "doesn't want to"? If there was a market for a large venue Sheryl Crow tour, don't you think her people would be all over that? The fact of the matter is, there simply is not. And i find that very odd, considering how many records she sells...

At the height of Stevie's record sales and popularity, she was playing those venues. 20 years later and 20 years without a hit, she's STILL playing them. So we have an "in-her-prime Stevie Nicks" selling out large venues and a "20-years out-of-her-prime Stevie Nicks" selling out large venues. Yet we don't have an "in-her-prime Sheryl Crow" doing that and she sells and has OUTSOLD Stevie by millions and millions of records... what's wrong with this picture? hmmmm..

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 04:32 AM
At the height of Stevie's record sales and popularity, she was playing those venues. 20 years later and 20 years without a hit, she's STILL playing them. So we have an "in-her-prime Stevie Nicks" selling out large venues and a "20-years out-of-her-prime Stevie Nicks" selling out large venues. Yet we don't have an "in-her-prime Sheryl Crow" doing that and she sells and has OUTSOLD Stevie by millions and millions of records... what's wrong with this picture? hmmmm..
That's true for the US.... Stevie couldn't outsell anything outside of the US unfortunately, which I'm sure is why she doesn't come here :(

BTW... does Stevie always outsell the venues? What are the figures?

Pip

Gypsy-Rhiannon
09-24-2005, 04:35 AM
I do prefer that as well... however, this is a business. Do you honestly believe that Sheryl doesn't perform at the big venues because she simply "doesn't want to"? If there was a market for a large venue Sheryl Crow tour, don't you think her people would be all over that? The fact of the matter is, there simply is not. And i find that very odd, considering how many records she sells...

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I'm sure you're right. Maybe she isn't as hungry for the touring as Stevie is. Who knows? But I don't think we can determine someone 'popularity' by the size of venues they play in.

Pip

Kelly
09-24-2005, 08:00 AM
I'm sure any similaritie's people may find between the two images are purely coincidental. But these "Stevie is a lesbian and doing every woman she lays her hands on" rumors are a real beating and make gay people look bad.

I could not agree more. You would think Stevie has never been with a man! Can't the woman have a female friend without it being some lesbian love affair? Sheesh. It could not be more obvious that both she and Sheryl have always been into men...lots and lots of MEN. (besides..in the other thread..Stevie's real lover was Lori..so was she cheating on Lori with Sheryl??? Ridiculous)

Nicksluvver
09-25-2005, 04:04 PM
I felt the need to reply to this. Stevie and Sheryl are good friends, Stevie and FM were a huge MUSICAL influence on Sheryl, Sheryl is one lucky girl to be close to Stevie like that ( god it makes me jealous-LOL) and IMO I don't think Sheryl is obsessed with or trying to copy Stevie, maybe they have the same tastes in style-who knows?

trackaghost
09-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Aprt from sitting cross legged I don't think they are the same at all. :shrug:

I don't think so either.
There is a track on the new album (which I like very much by the way) called I Don't Wanna Know. Make of that what you will...