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ShangriLaTroubl
08-12-2005, 01:58 PM
yes, i'm surprised she has posted so quick about it
Chris
all the same
08-12-2005, 02:00 PM
What a handsome man he was. Very sad.
I was taken aback a bit with her asking her father to wait until her tours were complete. I find that a little egocentric! Hmmm... :shocked:
DeeGeMe
08-12-2005, 02:03 PM
Trust me, when your parents and other loved-ones get older, you start using any means necessary to keep them around longer. You hold out graduations and births and birthdays and all sorts of things they have to yet see as an incentive to try and get them to hold out and hold on for a little longer.
Sad confirmation of this already sad news.
SapphireSister
08-12-2005, 02:13 PM
I was taken aback a bit with her asking her father to wait until her tours were complete. I find that a little egocentric! Hmmm... :shocked:
Tears were streaming down my face before I even began to read her entry...I am so glad we have heard from her and that she has chosen to give us a sign that she is ok. This means so much to me, Stevie. I love you...
Regarding asking her father to wait until the tours were complete - Please try to understand what she was saying. Jess was a man with an incredible work ethic. If you've ever heard stories of when Stevie was sick and did not want to perform and he basically said to her "Stevie, these people are here to see you so get out there and do your job" and she did. He WANTED to hold on until the end of the tour for her so she was supporting his wishes and continuing for him. Being the selfless man that he was he did not want the tours to stop on his behalf which they most likely would have if he passed. Stevie said that to honor her father, not to be selfish because that is what he would have wanted.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be another "Stevie is an egomaniac" thread :(.
DrummerDeanna
08-12-2005, 02:16 PM
Oh wow...
I totally didn't expect her to post anything so soon - let alone at all!!! She is such a kick ass lady! Still -she must be feeling so much pain - their whole family is, I'm sure...but I think it's great that she got to be with him in his last days.
LiquidBlue5000
08-12-2005, 02:17 PM
yes, i'm surprised she has posted so quick about it
Chris
I think the fact that she posted about this so soon shows how strong of a person she is... and also, how she cares for her fans... she didnt have to do that.. she didnt have to say anything about it... as many have pointed out, it's her personal family business.. the fact that she would write a note to us, her fans, is frankly, pretty big of her... shows how much she cares.
skcin
08-12-2005, 02:19 PM
Wow - how can this woman write a few words & give me chills. So sad.
Wednesday, August 10th, 2005
Dear Friends~
My father died today at 3:06pm. He was a force of nature. He waited until the Fleetwood Mac Tour was over~ I asked him for that. He waited until this summer tour was over~ I asked him for that. He couldn’t leave us during a tour~ he knew that. The last show was Saturday in Vegas. I got here to Phoenix Sunday night. It is Wednesday night. He waited for me.
So now I can cry
I can go to his ocean house with him
His dream house on the water
The porch that he loved
And wanted to build here
A place to watch the sunset
And have a little vodka
A couch to take a nap on
While he watched the sun go down
He did it all, this man of character. He rocked big companies in big business, and he rocked big bands at his venue at Compton Terrace. He was a major player in both realms.
In my father’s painting
The house by the sea
In the dream house
By the water
Go my father and me
Rox A Little
08-12-2005, 02:21 PM
Tears were streaming down my face before I even began to read her entry...I am so glad we have heard from her and that she has chosen to give us a sign that she is ok. This means so much to me, Stevie. I love you...
Regarding asking her father to wait until the tours were complete - Please try to understand what she was saying. Jess was a man with an incredible work ethic. If you've ever heard stories of when Stevie was sick and did not want to perform and he basically said to her "Stevie, these people are here to see you so get out there and do your job" and she did. He WANTED to hold on until the end of the tour for her so she was supporting his wishes and continuing for him. Being the selfless man that he was he did not want the tours to stop on his behalf which they most likely would have if he passed. Stevie said that to honor her father, not to be selfish because that is what he would have wanted.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be another "Stevie is an egomaniac" thread :(.
Totally Agree! Anyone who has lost a parent or a loved one would understand where Stevie was coming from in her note. I don't know how she gathered the strength to write at this very trying time. God Bless you and your family Stevie. Your sadness will turn to happy memories of the times you and your Dad spent together. "If your lost and look you will find me...time after time"!
Rest in Peace Jess.
Rox
Rickypt
08-12-2005, 02:21 PM
If there is one thing in life I've learned, it is never judge someone who is grieving.
The "contract" between Stevie and her father about when he should let go is a very personal one between two people who loved each other deeply. Of course she was not saying don't die because I have to work, and we all know that if he died during the summer tour, she would have cancelled it.
It was a spiritual arrangement between the two of them based on things we will never know.
Stevie was totally devoted to that man. This is a really sad time for her and while I'm always on the side of free speech, I strongly caution against judging her. Just love and support her unconditionally--isn't that what we all want when we are so vulnerable and in such pain?
GateandGarden
08-12-2005, 02:24 PM
I was taken aback a bit with her asking her father to wait until her tours were complete. I find that a little egocentric! Hmmm... :shocked:I haven't been through what she's going through but I can imagine that she felt she needed him as long as she could have him. I can imagine silently saying Please stay with me through this and then Please stay with me through this, too. I think that I would be the same way. :(
I think that's a wonderful tribute she has on the site. It's very unique how public her private life is. I think it can be an invasion in some cases but in others I think it can be a blessing. It's just a belief I have that if a person and a family are going through such an awful time and there is an outpouring of love, support, and well wishes from many, many people, even if they are strangers, that genuine love can reach them in some way and they won't be alone.
ELIUD
08-12-2005, 02:27 PM
Any fan who had followed her career for a good number of years (at least from her solo years) would know that Stevie is EXTREMELY close to her small family: one brother, a mom and a dad (and of course now Lori and Jesse). And that losing any of them would be a shattering experience for her. I also believe that when people are ill or know they are about to die, the will to continue can prolong their lives until they are ready to let go. It has nothing to do with her ego but his love for her daughter and what she does.
I found her note especially the last part of the poem to be absolutely moving and heartbreaking.
SapphireSister
08-12-2005, 02:28 PM
"So now I can cry
I can go to his ocean house with him
His dream house on the water
The porch that he loved
And wanted to build here
A place to watch the sunset
And have a little vodka
A couch to take a nap on
While he watched the sun go down"
I wonder what ocean house she is talking about. Last time I checked there was no ocean in AZ. Is this just a metaphor? It sounds like it was a very special place to him.
Patti
08-12-2005, 02:30 PM
I am very touched by Stevie's letter and I'm sure it helped her as well, knowing there are many, many people who care about her and her family. My thoughts are with the Nicks family.
eclipse
08-12-2005, 02:30 PM
I found the note to be sad but peaceful. It is the acceptance that I was hoping I would feel in her tone. That's our Girl!
I am proud of her for addressing his death so quickly and sweetly.
I think she knew he was leaving....and asked him not to go until...., until..., until....,
and now everything is done-
There is quiet in Stevie's life....
and he chooses this time, as the right time to leave.
In reading her poem about his house by the sea, I felt a sense of acceptance in her words. I know Stevie will be strong and she will be fine. There will be tears, and a lonely place in her heart, for some time.
However, I think she knew he was ready to leave and was waiting for it to be OK with her.....
Might sound crazy, but I lost my Dad in the same way. When I was strong enough to handle him being gone...that is when he left. I think Jess and Stevie have that same bond. Bless them both!!
And again I will share my belief : As long as someone lives in your heart and in your mind...they are never really gone.
My wishes are for Stevie's strength, and also for many wonderful, joyous and happy memories of "her Daddy"...... always.....
~~dreams,
eclipse~~
GateandGarden
08-12-2005, 02:35 PM
As long as someone lives in your heart and in your mind...they are never really gone.
~~dreams,
eclipse~~I truly believe that, too.
Pisces Queen
08-12-2005, 02:39 PM
I can't stop crying. :(
SapphireSister
08-12-2005, 02:40 PM
I can't stop crying. :(
(((hugs)))
all the same
08-12-2005, 02:45 PM
I hope this doesn't turn out to be another "Stevie is an egomaniac" thread :(.
No, no! That isn't my intention at all. I just felt that when I read it and after reading other people's comments (including yours :xoxo: ) I understand her perspective better. Her father was truly a selfless man. No question. That comment was in no way intended to start anything!
bikerchic
08-12-2005, 02:45 PM
Oh wow...
I totally didn't expect her to post anything so soon - let alone at all!!! She is such a kick ass lady! Still -she must be feeling so much pain - their whole family is, I'm sure...but I think it's great that she got to be with him in his last days.
This is so sad about Stevie's dad. I think her posting that letter right away is like when someone die's close to you, the first thing you have to do is phone everyone and let them know. I know when my mom passed away this past January, after we got over the initial shock, the first thing you do when you get home is start making phone calls, at least that's what my family did. I guess Stevie feel's close to her fan's and wanted us to hear it from her.
My dad is still having a very difficult time over the loss of his wife and I am going to give him an extra hug this weekend for you Stevie. He turn's 79 this Saturaday.
God bless you Stevie~may the word's of your own music help you through this difficult time. :angel:
all the same
08-12-2005, 02:46 PM
I haven't been through what she's going through but I can imagine that she felt she needed him as long as she could have him. I can imagine silently saying Please stay with me through this and then Please stay with me through this, too. I think that I would be the same way. :(
Your choice of words broke my heart... :xoxo: :wavey:
Serrart
08-12-2005, 02:51 PM
I saw her message after the thread about Jess. She moved me with her beautiful words. And now I respect her even more for thinking to her fans too in this moment. She's a great lady.
Romy
all the same
08-12-2005, 02:53 PM
I saw her message after the thread about Jess. She moved me with her beautiful words. And now I respect her even more for thinking to her fans too in this moment. She's a great lady.
Romy
Absolutely! You'd think her fans would be the last thing on her mind! She is an amazing woman to consider us and address our concerns directly! A adore this woman! :xoxo:
enchantd1
08-12-2005, 02:55 PM
Eclipse... That was beautiful. I didn't know Stevie's father personally but this makes me so extremely sad. Stevie's beautiful and sad writings on the Nicksfx and also your post have brought me to tears. My prayers are with the Nicks family.
Beachwood Mac
08-12-2005, 02:56 PM
I wasn't sure I wanted to post to the thread about the loss of Stevie's dad. But after reading Stevie's letter on nicksfix I decided to add a few words.
It is no wonder that every article refers to Stevie's fans as devoted. How many other celebrities would take the time in their sorrow to let their fans know their father had passed away. Her short note in all its eloquence is the reason we are devoted to Stevie. She cares deeply for her fans as we were her own family. When friends tell me they don't get the fascination with Stevie Nicks my only reply is "If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you."
For Jess, God Bless You and thank you for giving us Stevie.
Ghost_Tracker
08-12-2005, 03:06 PM
It is no wonder that every article refers to Stevie's fans as devoted. How many other celebrities would take the time in their sorrow to let their fans know their father had passed away. Her short note in all its eloquence is the reason we are devoted to Stevie.
I would have been like,
". . . . . fans? . .. .. what . . . . ? post something on the . . . .
need to . . . need to call someo- . . . . need . . . what are fans???
what are you TALKING ab- . . . why is it so dark in here? . . .
did somebody say something about fans? Why, it isn't hot?
What are you . . . talking about what . . . what are FANS? ..."
What strength and dignity in her letter,
and how kind of her to post it to Nicksfix so soon.
Such genuine - GENUINE - consideration for her fans
and yes, selflessness and consideration for others.
And - if you read between her lines -
such leadership
She listened well.
I hope he realized that.
This is why they're a noble family.
The Princess is now a Queen.
And don't forget -
clearly, she has his strength.
skcin
08-12-2005, 03:10 PM
My dad is still having a very difficult time over the loss of his wife and I am going to give him an extra hug this weekend for you Stevie. He turn's 79 this Saturaday.
Theresa - how is your dad doing? Are you still going up there every weekend?
Although, it doesn't make it easier, I think she was prepared for his death. He was unwell for a long time. Sadly, many people over the age of 65 who break bones like that and are not in good health rarely recover. God bless. She truly is a strong woman.
eclipse
08-12-2005, 03:33 PM
My thanks go out to everyone that has commented on my post, it was a difficult one for me to write too.
If it has given you comfort I am glad that I am here to do that for you.
Please don't cry. I don't feel that it is the expression of emotion that Jess would want you to be feeling, nor would Stevie.
So please don't cry , try and be like me... :nod:
Be Irish and Be a witch (well, maybe everyone can't do that...)and Be crazy, and Be Happy that you were are part of someones life...
Have a whiskey and celebrate one life passing you by, whoever's life that may be. A Father, Mother, Brother, Sister, Child, Dog, Cat, it all counts and it all feels the same. Loss is loss. But remembering joyful times brings such a sense of peace and calm, and love to your heart, please try and you will find the sadness and tears.....dry.
It is amazing that a woman (whom none of us know,) can bring so many people from all different walks/talks of life together and allow us to share/feel such deep emotions. We do love this Stevie...don't we.
Wishing you all peacefilled dreams~~
~~eclipse
GateandGarden
08-12-2005, 03:38 PM
My thanks go out to everyone that has commented on my post, it was a difficult one for me to write too.
If it has given you comfort I am glad that I am here to do that for you.
Please don't cry. I don't feel that it is the expression of emotion that Jess would want you to be feeling, nor would Stevie.
So please don't cry , try and be like me... :nod:
Be Irish and Be a witch (well, maybe everyone can't do that...)and Be crazy, and Be Happy that you were are part of someones life...
Have a whiskey and celebrate one life passing you by, whoever's life that may be. A Father, Mother, Brother, Sister, Child, Dog, Cat, it all counts and it all feels the same. Loss is loss. But remembering joyful times brings such a sense of peace and calm, and love to your heart, please try and you will find the sadness and tears.....dry.
It is amazing that a woman (whom none of us know,) can bring so many people from all different walks/talks of life together and allow us to share/feel such deep emotions. We do love this Stevie...don't we.
Wishing you all peacefilled dreams~~
~~eclipse
Thank you for another beautiful post. :)
GypsySorcerer
08-12-2005, 03:54 PM
I think I need to have a good cry. :( I hope Stevie knows that her fans are sending her lots of love and thoughts at this time.
ontheEdgeof17
08-12-2005, 03:56 PM
Very heart-felt.
Thanks Stevie for opening up for your fans and letting us help you through this difficult time. Take care. :xoxo:
catinthedark
08-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Stevie's letter is beautiful. She is a person who has always sought solace by writing, and by sharing her words with others. She is grieving, and probably knows that her fans today are feeling for her in her time of loss. And I tihnk this is her way of saying thank you.
We did not need to know Jess personally to recognize what a force he was in her life. Many fans have been touched by her music, have turned to her music in our time of sadness. How could we not feel for her in her time of loss?
bikerchic
08-12-2005, 04:04 PM
Theresa - how is your dad doing? Are you still going up there every weekend?
He has his good days and bad days of course. I think he tries and puts on a brave front for us when we're there, but he is sooooo lonely. When my mother was cremated, my father asked for me to pick up her urn from the funeral parlor's for burial in the spring, but now he has asked me to keep them until his death so that their ashes can be buried together. I don't know what to think of that, I hate when he talks about his own death but at the same time it is a beautiful sentiment. I truly believe that he knows that he would not be able to handle the burial of my mother's ashes so maybe this is why he has requested this. I respect whatever his wishes are. My sister's and I take turn's going up on the weekends which help but it's still very hard.
I'll probably get backlash for saying this but I believe that it may be easier for a woman to lose her husband then for a man to lose his wife first. The reason being that with the older generation the man is dependent on his wife for so many things in everyday life. The cooking, the shopping, the cleaning, laundry, ironing, the bill paying and just the warmth of making a home a home. This is just my observation from what I have seen in my life. :wavey:
Nixxxed
08-12-2005, 04:09 PM
In some ways he was a celebrity too. Millions have seen him introducing his daughter at very prominent shows - most notably the HBO White-Winged Dove special and the US Festival broadcast. Not to mention his business dealings and charitable work.
In fact, I remember making Stevie mix-tapes (a long time ago), and starting the tape off with: "Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome ... my daughter ... Stevie Nicks!!!"
Stevie's strong family bond is a big part of her success, and I've always appreciated that she let us get to know them a little, too.
skcin
08-12-2005, 04:14 PM
I'll probably get backlash for saying this but I believe that it may be easier for a woman to lose her husband then for a man to lose his wife first. The reason being that with the older generation the man is dependent on his wife for so many things in everyday life. The cooking, the shopping, the cleaning, laundry, ironing, the bill paying and just the warmth of making a home a home. This is just my observation from what I have seen in my life. :wavey:
No backlash here. In my experience (in my own family) this has been true.
The Tower
08-12-2005, 04:19 PM
Stevie is really lucky that she had a great dad, and that she got to spend almost 60 years with him. It's sad that he died, but I'm sure he was very happy and he got to see all that is Stevie. He must have been very proud of her.
Good-bye, Jess- you had a long, happy and fulfilling life- what else could one ask for?
strandinthewind
08-12-2005, 04:32 PM
He has his good days and bad days of course. I think he tries and puts on a brave front for us when we're there, but he is sooooo lonely. When my mother was cremated, my father asked for me to pick up her urn from the funeral parlor's for burial in the spring, but now he has asked me to keep them until his death so that their ashes can be buried together. I don't know what to think of that, I hate when he talks about his own death but at the same time it is a beautiful sentiment. I truly believe that he knows that he would not be able to handle the burial of my mother's ashes so maybe this is why he has requested this. I respect whatever his wishes are. My sister's and I take turn's going up on the weekends which help but it's still very hard . . .
I am sad for you - in the end, we become the parent - in a way, that is a nice thing, yet horrifying when we are alone. I am standing somewhat on the edge of it; and that terrifies me as I am the strong one whose shoulders never bend. So :xoxo: to you my friend.
And - I agree. If my 79 year old mother goes before my younger dad, he will be lost and most likely drink himself to death out of despair, which would be horrible.
Anyway, Stevie is truly great for posting this. I think she knew somehow that many fans care about him, his family, and her. What a woman to share this "darkest hour" with us when most want only family and close friends around.
Though the letter was heavy, I kind of chuckled at the vodka part, because I am in New Orleans and was having a little vodka when I read that - as if on cue :laugh: Also, wouldn't it be great if we had her talent and could send her our music to help her - a fitting return for the gifts she gave and gives us in her music. Sadly, all I have is the Vegas Kareoke - which I somehow think she would both be horrified and amused by :laugh:
RIP Mr. Nicks - you were one of the nicest people I have ever met.
GypsySorcerer
08-12-2005, 04:34 PM
I'll probably get backlash for saying this but I believe that it may be easier for a woman to lose her husband then for a man to lose his wife first. The reason being that with the older generation the man is dependent on his wife for so many things in everyday life. The cooking, the shopping, the cleaning, laundry, ironing, the bill paying and just the warmth of making a home a home. This is just my observation from what I have seen in my life. :wavey:
I agree with that. And I wish you, your father, and your family the very best.
KarmaContestant
08-12-2005, 04:34 PM
Too bad for Stevie....I feel for her. :distress:
"I was just that old...that August dark, dark day..."
gldstwmn
08-12-2005, 04:48 PM
"So now I can cry
I can go to his ocean house with him
His dream house on the water
The porch that he loved
And wanted to build here
A place to watch the sunset
And have a little vodka
A couch to take a nap on
While he watched the sun go down"
I wonder what ocean house she is talking about. Last time I checked there was no ocean in AZ. Is this just a metaphor? It sounds like it was a very special place to him.
Maybe Hawaii? I don't know.
sodascouts
08-12-2005, 04:58 PM
Wow, I can't believe she posted about it already. Her words really moved me. But at least he lived a long, full life.
jkmaletic
08-12-2005, 05:07 PM
I think the fact that she posted about this so soon shows how strong of a person she is... and also, how she cares for her fans... she didnt have to do that.. she didnt have to say anything about it... as many have pointed out, it's her personal family business.. the fact that she would write a note to us, her fans, is frankly, pretty big of her... shows how much she cares.
You're right Brian - she did not have to do that. It shows how aware Stevie is that her fans care deeply for her. She continues to amaze me...
Livia
08-12-2005, 05:22 PM
You're right Brian - she did not have to do that. It shows how aware Stevie is that her fans care deeply for her. She continues to amaze me...
Ditto... :nod: The other thing that amazes me is that so often ALL of us have turned to Stevie's music and especially, her lyrics for comfort. All day, I've had her lyrics from her death and dying songs running through my head....And she just comforted me again, in HER darkest hour...she's one special lady.
JazmenFlowers
08-12-2005, 05:24 PM
bless her wild, wild heart. I am glad, though, that he was able to, as many have said, live such a great life and have such a wonderful family. To see Stevie be successful and finally healthy and surrounded by so much love...what more could a parent want? They are both lucky to have spent this many years together. Much love to them both.
JazmenFlowers
08-12-2005, 05:25 PM
You're right Brian - she did not have to do that. It shows how aware Stevie is that her fans care deeply for her. She continues to amaze me...
yeppers - :nod:
NoSpeedLimit8
08-12-2005, 05:29 PM
ITA with everything everyone is saying...
I'm just kind of speechless right now..
Stevie is just...there are no words...I love her.
JazmenFlowers
08-12-2005, 05:30 PM
ITA with everything everyone is saying...
I'm just kind of speechless right now..
Stevie is just...there are no words...I love her.
I love your sig pic, by the way. Did that come off one of the screens? Seems like I remember it.
-looks like we're both having special moments with the Stevie gaze, lol-
Ghost_Tracker
08-12-2005, 05:40 PM
Maybe Hawaii? I don't know.
There's a Rumour elsewhere on The Ledge here that Stevie
recently bought a house in California on the ocean. Maybe she
meant there, or maybe he had bought one himself.
Just guessing.
Sahara
08-12-2005, 05:50 PM
A truly amazing lady.
Who will ever forget that moment? -- "This is for you, daddy..."
I'm a bit lost for words at the moment, so I turn to the words of the one who has inspired my own for so long:
"I went searching for an answer
Up the stairs and down the hall
Not to find an answer
Just to hear the call
Of a nightbird
Singing come away..."
My own thoughts:
Pride and gratitude, the devotee
And the price we pay for everlasting peace
Is oxygen.
The tick tock of each day
And the windows...
The darkest hour comes before the dawn, he said.
The dust will settle -- you know like I know how it is.
I think of you, the sweet darling, every time
The words won't come ...
A devil red candle
Burning in the house of God;
What meant so much to him
She gives now in dedication to another.
He sits unseen, somewhere in the crowd
With stars in his eyes.
She suffers under the light,
Watched
On her personal, shattered
Street of Dreams.
Prayers and love, always.
bikerchic
08-12-2005, 06:05 PM
I am sad for you - in the end, we become the parent - in a way, that is a nice thing, yet horrifying when we are alone. I am standing somewhat on the edge of it; and that terrifies me as I am the strong one whose shoulders never bend. So :xoxo: to you my friend.
Thank you strand.
And - I agree. If my 79 year old mother goes before my younger dad, he will be lost and most likely drink himself to death out of despair, which would be horrible.
I pray that that does not happen for you. My dad has been known to enjoy a good drink now and then if you know what I mean and he also has alot of drinking buddies who drop by the house now and we are abit concerned about that.
Anyway, Stevie is truly great for posting this. I think she knew somehow that many fans care about him, his family, and her. What a woman to share this "darkest hour" with us when most want only family and close friends around.
I agree.
amber
08-12-2005, 06:21 PM
Thank you strand.
I pray that that does not happen for you. My dad has been known to enjoy a good drink now and then if you know what I mean and he also has alot of drinking buddies who drop by the house now and we are abit concerned about that.
I agree.
um...I just wanted to say that your sig pic is soooo cute. I'm sorry about your dad, too. :xoxo:
bikerchic
08-12-2005, 06:45 PM
um...I just wanted to say that your sig pic is soooo cute. I'm sorry about your dad, too. :xoxo:
Thanks Amber. I've been bugging my son for months to help me with some pictures for my sig and avatar. So today he surprised me with this. He knew I was sad about Stevie's dad I guess and wanted to cheer me up. I hope it's not too self-indulgent, he thought it would be cute. :angel: (and he hated the beaver :laugh: ) Let me know when you get tired of looking at me! :laugh: :wavey:
EnchantedSLN
08-12-2005, 08:05 PM
That is so touching. And such a sweet picture of them.
I wonder what ocean house she is talking about. Last time I checked there was no ocean in AZ. Is this just a metaphor? It sounds like it was a very special place to him.
Maybe Hawaii? I don't know.
There's a Rumour elsewhere on The Ledge here that Stevie recently bought a house in California on the ocean. Maybe she meant there, or maybe he had bought one himself. Just guessing.
I could be wrong but I think she's talking about the house in the painting that is mentioned in the next few lines:
In my father’s painting
The house by the sea
In the dream house
By the water
Go my father and me
Sounds like a fantasy place... in a painting Jess did or a piece of art in his home that he always said he wanted to live in or build a home like one day.
witchy_woman13
08-12-2005, 08:32 PM
my love and sympathy to my favorite lady and her family r.i.p jess and hope to see you in the summerland ............. LOVE & LIGHT
witchy_woman13
08-12-2005, 08:34 PM
OH AND LOVE THE PIC BIKERCHIC !! and damn awsome bike :thumbsup:
bikerchic
08-12-2005, 09:35 PM
OH AND LOVE THE PIC BIKERCHIC !! and damn awsome bike :thumbsup:
Thank you :thumbsup: I just want to say also that it is so thoughtful of all you Ledgies to send your condolences not only for Stevie but for us fellow Ledgies that have lost a parent as well. :xoxo: :wavey:
BlackWidow
08-12-2005, 09:42 PM
yes, i'm surprised she has posted so quick about it
Chris
Me too Chris..but so glad she did...
golden braid
08-12-2005, 11:19 PM
My thanks go out to everyone that has commented on my post, it was a difficult one for me to write too.
If it has given you comfort I am glad that I am here to do that for you.
Please don't cry. I don't feel that it is the expression of emotion that Jess would want you to be feeling, nor would Stevie.
So please don't cry , try and be like me... :nod:
Be Irish and Be a witch (well, maybe everyone can't do that...)and Be crazy, and Be Happy that you were are part of someones life...
Have a whiskey and celebrate one life passing you by, whoever's life that may be. A Father, Mother, Brother, Sister, Child, Dog, Cat, it all counts and it all feels the same. Loss is loss. But remembering joyful times brings such a sense of peace and calm, and love to your heart, please try and you will find the sadness and tears.....dry.
It is amazing that a woman (whom none of us know,) can bring so many people from all different walks/talks of life together and allow us to share/feel such deep emotions. We do love this Stevie...don't we.
Wishing you all peacefilled dreams~~
~~eclipse
Eclipse, your posts are very touching. Thank you. I wish I could express myself as well as you do. :xoxo:
tynan88
08-12-2005, 11:47 PM
I am so sorry for Stevie, and find it touching that she has responded so quickly to her fans even though we know she didn't have to. God bless Stevie and her father.
Does anyone think it is possible Stevie has a new group of people around her at the moment...just to me it seems like she is opening up and having a bit more contact with fans in this way, like starting to do journals again...and if this whole orchestra thing goes down next year...what you think.
Janet
08-13-2005, 12:09 AM
I think to myself that Stevie was very lucky to have had her father for so many years. I am sure she is at peace with her father's passing. He lived a full life and she got to spend so many precious moments with him.
It's still very sad and I am shocked, like many, that she wrote a letter to her fans like she did. I find it touching that she felt the need to express her feelings in such an open way.
EveryHour
08-13-2005, 01:17 AM
If there is one thing in life I've learned, it is never judge someone who is grieving.
The "contract" between Stevie and her father about when he should let go is a very personal one between two people who loved each other deeply. Of course she was not saying don't die because I have to work, and we all know that if he died during the summer tour, she would have cancelled it.
It was a spiritual arrangement between the two of them based on things we will never know.
Exactly. To me it means that she went ahead with the tour, even though she may have known death was near for Jess, because it's what he would have wanted. But she wanted to be with him when he died, as I'm sure he wanted her to be there, so she asked him to hold on until the tour was finished. Simple, sensical, loving, and certainly NOT egocentrical.
buck1nghamn1cks
08-13-2005, 01:58 AM
I'm so glad that he did wait for her. He loved her so, as she loved him. She's such a strong lady, and he was a strong man. He would have done anything for her. I don't think she could have lived with herself if he died when she was on tour. She probably wanted to hold his hand and be near to him. I hope to be near my Dad when he passes as well. I don't want him to be alone! :'(
Kelly
08-13-2005, 06:48 AM
What a beautiful letter from a classy lady.
Brian LiquidBlue, I totally agree with your post, although I forgot to quote it.
SapphireSister.....maybe the new house she bought?* I think she made extensive renovations on it, perhaps she built a porch, at her Dad's request, for when he visited.
desertangel
08-13-2005, 07:20 AM
It was comforting to see Stevie's post. I worried a bit about the part where she said she can go with him now. In the days following after I lost my dad I felt very alone, mostly because of dysfunctional family reactions (I "think".) But at any rate, I felt like I wanted to "go with" him. And it was simply not wanting to be left alone and to not part from him because he was my strongest ally in life, having never been married, no significant other, etc. so I know Stevie has to be feeling some of this. She will learn to stand on her own, as I did.
What I want to know is, somewhere in a thread someone said she made a comment at one of the last shows that she would not be touring again for a very long time. Is this true? Because if it is, then we know that she was already thinking and starting to feel that she would be in a tremendous amount of pain when the time came. I pretty much started the grieving process even before my father actually died too, just the thought of knowing I was going to lose him very soon. It was almost too much to handle. She had a lot of strength to be able to give as much to those last few shows as she did.
This could go either way... she could either totally reach out to everyone around her and embrace the love, or she could go hide for a long time and try to refind herself again. I did the latter and I'm still not finished. There was a lot of bitterness that came out from my family members when my dad died, so I'm sure that created a different effect for me. I'm sure Stevie is NOT having to go thru that... thank God!
It's true what someone said earlier about her posting so quickly. When my dad died, I immediately called a few people back home. My stepmom called several people too. It's a natural reaction. It's such an immediate blow to your soul, sharing is almost like a way to help reality set in.
So I really hope Stevie doesn't go into hibernation for long. I don't want this to be too devastating for her, not like losing my dad was for me... I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I'd like to see her take some respectable time off and then use this experience to create and share with us because I know there are a LOT of fans who would benefit greatly from her words as she goes thru this transition in her life. I know I would. That is my hope and desire.
I really don't know what else to say except thank you to the people who have offered their condolences to fellow Ledgies. I offer mine as well. Even tho my dad has been gone for 3 years, it hasn't been long enough that something like this doesn't affect me. I've been teary eyed all day and I think I'm gonna go smoke a cigarette... just one.
Laura
DavidMn
08-13-2005, 01:15 PM
I've lost a grandmother and a great aunt in the last few years that were very dear to me. Stevie was there for me when I needed her, and hopefully in some way we can all return the favor :angel:
CjDreams
08-14-2005, 08:49 PM
If it has given you comfort I am glad that I am here to do that for you.
Please don't cry. I don't feel that it is the expression of emotion that Jess would want you to be feeling, nor would Stevie.
So please don't cry , try and be like me... :nod:
Be Irish and Be a witch (well, maybe everyone can't do that...)and Be crazy, and Be Happy that you were are part of someones life...
Have a whiskey and celebrate one life passing you by, whoever's life that may be. A Father, Mother, Brother, Sister, Child, Dog, Cat, it all counts and it all feels the same. Loss is loss. But remembering joyful times brings such a sense of peace and calm, and love to your heart, please try and you will find the sadness and tears.....dry.
It is amazing that a woman (whom none of us know,) can bring so many people from all different walks/talks of life together and allow us to share/feel such deep emotions. We do love this Stevie...don't we.
Wishing you all peacefilled dreams~~
~~eclipse
Are you kidding me with this? The arrogance of this post made me stop lurking. Did you even know the man??? I understand it is very sad for Stevie and I feel for her and her family. But please get over yourself. He lived a long happy life and this is far from a tragedy. I do not want to be like you, thanks!
A picture of Chris and Jess has been added to the page with Stevie's note.
Johnny Stew
08-14-2005, 09:37 PM
The arrogance of this post made me stop lurking.Made you stop lurking or switch usernames? :wavey:
Ghost_Tracker
08-14-2005, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=desertangel]It was comforting to see Stevie's post. I worried a bit about the part where she said she can go with him now.
I'm pretty sure that she just meant by this, that she can go to the house
and be there alone, and know that he is there with her, "in spirit."
Stevie's beliefs, to me, seem to be very consistent, and especially at a
time like this, she needs to hang on to them. So maybe she was
reassuring us - and, therefore, herself - that his spirit lives on and that
she'll be able to feel him with her, sometimes.
:angel:
From John Travolta, 1996, "Michael" - - -
"I'm not that kinda angel ! "
Ghost_Tracker
08-14-2005, 10:28 PM
I found the note to be sad but peaceful. It is the acceptance that I was hoping I would feel in her tone. That's our Girl!
I am proud of her for addressing his death so quickly and sweetly.
I think she knew he was leaving....and asked him not to go until...., until..., until....,
and now everything is done-
There is quiet in Stevie's life....
and he chooses this time, as the right time to leave.
In reading her poem about his house by the sea, I felt a sense of acceptance in her words. I know Stevie will be strong and she will be fine. There will be tears, and a lonely place in her heart, for some time.
However, I think she knew he was ready to leave and was waiting for it to be OK with her.....
Might sound crazy, but I lost my Dad in the same way. When I was strong enough to handle him being gone...that is when he left. I think Jess and Stevie have that same bond. Bless them both!!
And again I will share my belief : As long as someone lives in your heart and in your mind...they are never really gone.
My wishes are for Stevie's strength, and also for many wonderful, joyous and happy memories of "her Daddy"...... always.....
~~dreams,
eclipse~~
Not to put down anything that's being said here,
but let's not forget that Jess had a son, too, named Chris.
Stevie's little brother.
It's not like he "didn't count" in Mr. Nicks's thoughts, etc.
And a wonderful wife, named Barbara.
Stevie's special, but she's not the only member
of this family unit.
Just an observation.
Ghost_Tracker
08-15-2005, 01:03 AM
I think to myself that Stevie was very lucky to have had her father for so many years. I am sure she is at peace with her father's passing. He lived a full life and she got to spend so many precious moments with him.
It's still very sad and I am shocked, like many, that she wrote a letter to her fans like she did. I find it touching that she felt the need to express her feelings in such an open way.
This is kinda unrelated, but I just wanted to say "kudos" for
including the Mulder/Scully Dancing picture with your post.
As the great philosopher E. Murphy once said,
"Oh, so you caught that! . . . ."
It added a nice touch to what you were saying.
Ghost_Tracker
08-15-2005, 02:34 AM
A picture of Chris and Jess has been added to the page with Stevie's note.
I thought this was a very nice touch on Kinney's part.
A nice reminder, without making any comments about it,
that there's others involved in addition to Stevie -
that this is a family
"And when I call, will you walk gently through my shadow?
The ones who sing at night -
the ones who sing at night.
The ones you dream of,
the ones who walk away -
with their capes pulled around them tight,
crying for the night
cry for the night bird -
tonight."
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( :( )
CjDreams
08-15-2005, 06:29 AM
Made you stop lurking or switch usernames? :wavey:
Both :wavey: Oh well!
sara1998
08-15-2005, 10:51 AM
Well, aren't I out of the loop? I just saw this, and I'm devistated for Stevie and the family. Bless 'em all.
mcboo
08-15-2005, 11:14 AM
A picture of Chris and Jess has been added to the page with Stevie's note.
i'm glad you posted this....i thought to myself, "how the heck did I miss this picture before?"
i thought i was having another one of my blonde moments :D
pattymarkle
08-15-2005, 12:44 PM
I guess we all handle the passing of our family and friends in different ways. I too become a pilar of strength when someone in my family dies. My grandparents and my own father have passed away in recent years and I always felt that they were even closer to me now because they are free to always be with me. I also felt like it was my job to help everyone else get through the difficult time. Stevie may feel like she needs to be strong for her mother, her brother and Jessica. I think I would be the same way.
As for his waiting to pass until her tour was finished, it reminded me of my favorite, "Wow - how could that be?" story. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both died in July 4, 1826. On the 50th Anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson's last words were, "Is this the fourth?". They both hung on to life to make it to that historic day.
Mr. Nicks is a man of great character and loyalty. He hung on for Stevie. I think that is truly touching.
Patty
Ghost_Tracker
08-15-2005, 01:44 PM
i'm glad you posted this....i thought to myself, "how the heck did I miss this picture before?"
i thought i was having another one of my blonde moments :D
Could be wrong, but I believe that Mr. Kinney posted the picture with
Chris a little later on.
In my opinion, he's making a statement -
he's saying,
"Ahem. There's other family members involved here."
A picture is worth a thousand words,
and I felt he spoke about 20,000 words here,
without even having to raise his voice.
Way
to
go
Kinney.
:cool:
I think he's very good at what he does for Stevie and the fans.
OH - did you know that he's a photographer, also???
studyinscarlet
08-15-2005, 02:17 PM
Haven't been here for nearly two years. But had to come back amongst the Ledgies after going to the Nicksfix and reading about Stevie's dad. She 'was' very lucky to have had him for this long. My father passed when I was 8. I'm sure she'll come out stronger, as most of us do, and writing songs that will touch our lives once again.
Still, it was a great outlet to be able to send condolences to the family and to hear from Stevie. I love her for thinking about including us. But that's not unusual for Stevie. If ever anyone had a talent for cementing a relationship with fans... it's why I cried when I read about her dad. Because of that connection she makes us feel.
I hope Barbara is holding up well. So long to be with someone and then have them not there any longer.
sara1998
08-15-2005, 04:33 PM
Haven't been here for nearly two years. But had to come back amongst the Ledgies after going to the Nicksfix and reading about Stevie's dad. She 'was' very lucky to have had him for this long. My father passed when I was 8. I'm sure she'll come out stronger, as most of us do, and writing songs that will touch our lives once again.
Still, it was a great outlet to be able to send condolences to the family and to hear from Stevie. I love her for thinking about including us. But that's not unusual for Stevie. If ever anyone had a talent for cementing a relationship with fans... it's why I cried when I read about her dad. Because of that connection she makes us feel.
I hope Barbara is holding up well. So long to be with someone and then have them not there any longer.
Wow! It has been a long time since you've been here! Hope you're well, and I'm sorry to see it took something like this to bring you back, but glad you stopped in!
studyinscarlet
08-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Wow! It has been a long time since you've been here! Hope you're well, and I'm sorry to see it took something like this to bring you back, but glad you stopped in!
Hey! I'm good. Wow, I remember when I was an 'addicted ledgie' and had a LOT more posts! Seems long ago. :) Where else would I go?
I just found this little comment from Barbara. It's probably somewhere else here, but--
"When I met Jess, I wrote in my diary that this was the man I was going to marry," said Barbara, describing it as "love at first sight." They were married one month later. That was about 58 years ago.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/scottsdale/articles/0802sr-shocket02Z8.html
Awww.
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