Make your own new Stevie solo album

[GateandGarden]

We can dream, right?

Mine would have-

The Dealer
Belle Fleur
China Doll
Julia
Without You (re-recorded with Lindsey)
My Heart (totally revamped)
Space Needle
Don't Treat Me Like a Stranger (re-written and recorded sans Kenny G)
Annabel Lee
I Burn for You or Ghost Story or Mad About You (she can pick one for a cover/duet with Sting)

[GypsySorcerer]

Space Needle
China Doll
The Dealer
Christian
Chanel, Chanel
Julia
Baby Doll (I think I'm the only who likes this one)
My Heart (with different music)

[ontheEdgeof17]

I just want Space Needle and 11 new songs, please. :wavey:

[dissention]

If I were in charge and she had no new material to work with...

Space Needle (minus the "tar people" line)
Julia (sung with zeal and passion, or forget it)
Pavlov's Bell (Aimee Mann cover)
If You Were My Love (in the vein of the Fleetwood Mac version)
Lady From the Mountain
Something Exquisite (tweak the lyrics and get rid of the 80s cheese)
When Sunny Gets Blue (Etta James cover)
Joan of Arc (only if she can keep it as sinister as the original)
Inspiration (new vocal and just an acoustic guitar)
All the Beautiful Worlds
What You Wish For (Guster cover)

I'm very specific. And keep the background singers shit to a minimum this time around please (*ducks from the shoe Marissa will throw at me*).

[krrrby]

I like this idea...

OK mine would be this:

Album Title: Gold and Braid

1. Baby Doll
2. All the Beautiful Worlds
3. Joan of Arc (LOVE this song, and I think she could still rock it out)
4. Love and War (Mixdown)
5. Gold and Braid (like a new version, finally put on an album)
6. Lady from the Mountain
7. If You Were My Love (prefer it to sound like the mirage outtake version)
8. Love Don't Fail Me Now
9. Chanel, Chanel
10. Blue Water
11. Space Needle (shortened, its too long)
12. Julia
13. Ooh Baby (but definitely redone)

[krrrby]

I just want Space Needle and 11 new songs, please. :wavey:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[LiquidBlue5000]

1. My Heart
2. Space Needle
3. Have No Heart
4. City Of Hope
5. China Doll
6. Mistaken Love

.. and 7 new songs please :nod:

[CreepingDeath]

I'm terrible at sequencing, so in no particular order-

Space Needle
My Heart
The Dealer
Julia
Lady From The Mountain
If You Were My Love
All The Beautiful Worlds
Something Exquisite
Chanel, Chanel
Joan of Arc
Have No Heart
China Doll

[GardenStateGirlie]

And keep the background singers shit to a minimum this time around please (*ducks from the shoe Marissa will throw at me*).

:shocked: youcannottakeoutthebacksassersunlessitslindseyandsteviesoloinwhichcaseitsbuckinghamnicksandthenillde alwithitkplzandthanks. HMPH.

You've redeemed yourself with Guster though.

[dissention]

:shocked: youcannottakeoutthebacksassersunlessitslindseyandsteviesoloinwhichcaseitsbuckinghamnicksandthenillde alwithkplzandthanks. HMPH.

You've redeemed yourself with Guster though.

Hee. I thought I was the only person who knew of them. Maybe I'll stop cheating on you since it appears that our relationship is salvageable after all.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Hee. I thought I was the only person who knew of them. Maybe I'll stop cheating on you since it appears that our relationship is salvageable after all.

I saw Guster my sophomore year of high school :nod:

For our relationship to be salvageable, you need to stop cheating on me with Richard from the Oakridge Boys, k?

[dissention]

I saw Guster my sophomore year of high school :nod:

For our relationship to be salvageable, you need to stop cheating on me with Richard from the Oakridge Boys, k?

Ah, but his dalmation chic outerwear gets me so hot and bothered. :P

What You Wish For is my favorite Guster song and every time I hear it, I always think that Stevie could do a kick-ass cover of it; singing like she did in Sorcerer by utilizing some of her upper register on the "And what you wish for won't come true" lines. Then Lori could come in with the "Just repeat after me" part and it would be an instant classic.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Ah, but his dalmation chic outerwear gets me so hot and bothered. :P

What You Wish For is my favorite Guster song and every time I hear it, I always think that Stevie could do a kick-ass cover of it; singing like she did in Sorcerer by utilizing some of her upper register on the "And what you wish for won't come true" lines. Then Lori could come in with the "Just repeat after me" part and it would be an instant classic.

Can you tell a rainbow...eh! stop being a rainbow! Such is Richard :p

Hmmm....you know, for once I might agree with you. Plus, Lori backing vocals? That would be a good time.

Guster is awesome. I love Amsterdam <3 They used to play them a lot and they'd come here for concerts all the time before they took away our alternative station Y100 and replaced it with something Philadelphia needs more of...another rap station -_-

[catinthedark]

Ah, I've made so many versions of my "perfect" Stevie album... Here's what I would do right now:

No particular order - that's what sequencers are paid to do.

Space Needle (not too long, not too short - and I love the tar people line :p )
Sanctuary
Chanel, Chanel
Mistaken Love (utter perfection in a song)
Cecilia (Anyone else love this song? Love the vibe of this one)
Joan of Arc (lose a few of the up against the walls)
My Heart (minus the cheesy 80s groove)
Without You (excellent idea I stole from someone above)
Something Exquisite
Straight Back
Planets of the Universe (the original demo, please)

[GateandGarden]

No particular order - that's what sequencers are paid to do.Wait--they pay people to do that? :shocked: Then what the hell happened with Tusk? :laugh:

[thepoetinmyhear]

Ah, but his dalmation chic outerwear gets me so hot and bothered. :P

What You Wish For is my favorite Guster song and every time I hear it, I always think that Stevie could do a kick-ass cover of it; singing like she did in Sorcerer by utilizing some of her upper register on the "And what you wish for won't come true" lines. Then Lori could come in with the "Just repeat after me" part and it would be an instant classic.

How appropriate then that it is also in a movie starring Hayden Christensen.

[lagringader&r]

I had considered a disc of her show live from the lounge of the Blanding Roadhouse, Utah, but I think I'm going to go with this lot instead. Gosh, my own Stevie album, there's so much to choose from, I've had to limit it.

Come (accompanied by Helmut And The Displaced Schuhplattlers)
Wrong (with the BBC Symphony Orchestra)
Johnny Stew (with the Duke of Kent on trombone)
Save Me A Place (accompanied by a pantomime horse)
Holiday Road (with Roger Waters on gong)
Loving Cup (with Stevie on lead guitar)
and maybe a Rattlesnake Shake duet with Nigel Incubator Jones

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok, my list

Gold and Braid
Beauty and the Beast (live, without the crowd noise)
Storms (a new 2005 version using her lower, deeper voice and slightly sped up)
Space Needle
White Flag (a Dido song that I think would be killer with Stevie)
Whole Lotta Love (I'm not joking..gawd, she would rock it, but maybe minus the orgasmic groans and with Lindsey on guitar)
Joan of Arc
After The Glitter Fades
Beautiful Child (once I saw this live the first time, it made me fall in love with it all over again. I'd like Lindsey on harmony backup vocals, instead of the backup singers - just a duet)
*Something, anything new with Tom Petty*
Sometimes It's A Bitch ( :thumbsup: )
At Last
Blue Lamp
Free Fallin'
Crystal (just her)
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (from Storytellers)
I Will Run To You
Just Like A Woman
Sisters of the Moon (again, a 2005 version and lots of speaking in tongues)
Kick It
That Made Me Stronger
Sleeping Angel

If you're gonna dream, dream big. :eek: I don't ask for much :laugh:

[Kelly]

This is fun!

Without You (with Lindsey)
Christian
My Heart
Julia
All the Beautiful Worlds
Chanel Chanel
Lady from the Mountain (who found her?) : )>
Night Gallery
She Loves Him Still
China Doll
Secret Love

[trackaghost]

Julia
The Dealer
Sanctuary
If You Were My Love (rockin' like the Mac version, none of that "tropical-vibe" shit)
Space Needle
Belle Feur
Baby Doll
Lady From The Mountain
My Heart
All The Beautiful Worlds
Joan Of Arc
China Doll or Blue Water

No cover versions and no songs written by Sandy Stewart, Rick Nowells or whoever. All Stevie-composed songs please.

[xxxmx]

oh this is fabulous. ps - hillary, i love Ghost Story (and referring to an old post, Ray Bradbury and Everyday).


If You Were My Love - nice and soft a la the piano demo, in the same vein as Love Is

Old Fashioned / The Dance - this song doesn't get enough credit for being FANTASTIC

The Dealer - the a capella demo + music

Space Needle - truncated, album packaging could include a razor

Have No Heart - love that gothic vibe

Mistaken Love - nice and simple, leave off 99% of those crappy backing vocals

Inspiration - one of my favorite songs

Crying in the Night - could be awesome with her 'new' voice

Forest of the Black Roses - surprised i haven't seen it mentioned yet?

My Heart - i even love the music

songs that i would love to hear her perform, only a few that anyone else would want to hear...
Alanis - That I Would Be Good, Annie Lennox - Why, David Bowie - The Heart's Filthy Lesson, Elton John - Your Song (Moulin Rouge sty-lee), Hole - Doll Parts, Jimi Hendrix - Angel, Paula Abdul - Forever Your Girl, Simon & Garfunkel - Sounds of Silence (duet with LB), The Band - It Makes No Difference

[Dreammms]

lady from the mountain
ceceila
baby doll
secret love
watchdevil
24 karot
belle fluer
have no heart
the dealer
mistaken love
julia
china doll
all the beautiful worlds
prettiest girl in the world

i love if you were my love and without you but i rather she do that on a mac album.

[blinker12]

Hillary, glad you got China Doll and like it! It's great, right? :nod:

My list:

Secret Love
Belle Flower
Sanctuary
The Dealer
If You Were My Love (slow acoustic, but NOT tropical! :laugh:
Lady From the Mountain
She Loves Him Still
China Doll
The Three Birds of Rhiannon
Mistaken Love
Blue Water (a shorter version than the 5-6 minute version that's out there)
Space Needle

... and of course...

Lily Girl :lol: just kidding...

[GateandGarden]

oh this is fabulous. ps - hillary, i love Ghost Story (and referring to an old post, Ray Bradbury and Everyday).:thumbsup: :xoxo:

Hillary, glad you got China Doll and like it! It's great, right?It is beautiful! :nod:

[johnny4406]

<< New Song
My Heart
Christian
<< New Song
Julia
Gold & Braid
The Dealer
Mirror, Mirror
Strong Enough (cover :laugh:)
Watchdevil
At the fair (turn it into a Dance song)
Without You
<< New Song...

...hidden song: Joan of Arc

[dissention]

How appropriate then that it is also in a movie starring Hayden Christensen.

Oh, please. I had that album two years before that stupid movie came out. :laugh: And I loathe how they looped and edited it for that movie; it's incredibly grating.

[gldstwmn]

1. Mix Down
2. Prettiest Girl In The World
3. Beautiful Ghost
4. Julia
5. Something Exquisite
6. My Heart
7. Are You Mine
8. Sanctuary
9. It's Not A Dream
10. Jimmy Come Back
11. The Dealer
12. Dial The Number
13. China Doll

[catinthedark]

*
Sometimes It's A Bitch ( :thumbsup: )


OMG - someone else admits to liking it. I no longer feel so alone (though, I could do without the "castles of candy" line).

And xxxmx... I totally agree about Doll Parts. I would kill to hear Stevie do that one.

[dudden22]

OMG - someone else admits to liking it. I no longer feel so alone (though, I could do without the "castles of candy" line).

And xxxmx... I totally agree about Doll Parts. I would kill to hear Stevie do that one.

I don't dislike it either. Every once in a while I am in a "Sometimes its a Bitch" mood. It is certainly not her worst effort. eg Not Make Believe :distress: or docklands

[dudden22]

I just want Space Needle and 11 new songs, please. :wavey:


:laugh: :lol: :laugh:

I would rather have new songs too as long as she doesn't write anymore lines like "It hurts my self esteem it hurts my everything" I don't think BOB DYLAN would write a line like that. or "I only say what you want to here when there is conflict I stay clear" :distress: . I would just add Cecilia.

[Miss Vicky]

How about:

Another version of "Planets of the Universe" that doesn't have all those damned synthesizers and sounds more like the demo version. I'm sorry but, in my book, only Lindsey can get away with writing really depressing lyrics and then setting them to overly synthesized beats (see studio version of "Go Insane").

The rest? I don't care as long as it doesn't sound like TISL. And keep Sheryl Crow the hell out of the project. I like what she does with her own work, but she needs to leave Stevie's alone.

Okay, I'll get down from my soapbox now. :laugh:

[Miss Vicky]

I had considered a disc of her show live from the lounge of the Blanding Roadhouse, Utah, but I think I'm going to go with this lot instead. Gosh, my own Stevie album, there's so much to choose from, I've had to limit it.

Come (accompanied by Helmut And The Displaced Schuhplattlers)
Wrong (with the BBC Symphony Orchestra)
Johnny Stew (with the Duke of Kent on trombone)
Save Me A Place (accompanied by a pantomime horse)
Holiday Road (with Roger Waters on gong)
Loving Cup (with Stevie on lead guitar)
and maybe a Rattlesnake Shake duet with Nigel Incubator Jones

LMAO. I didn't see this before. :lol: :thumbsup:

[dissention]

The rest? I don't care as long as it doesn't sound like TISL. And keep Sheryl Crow the hell out of the project. I like what she does with her own work, but she needs to leave Stevie's alone.

Yeah, let's have John Shanks back to make her sound like even more of an AC grandma than he did the first time around the block. At least Sheryl put some life into her songs.

[diamondsnake]

My Heart
Chanel, Chanel
Christian
Annabel Lee
At Last
Space Needle (make it a tad shorter)
Mirror Mirror (I don't consider a foreign b-side as really being released, so I think she should rerecord the song and put it on a new album)
New Song
New Song
New Song
New Song
New song
New song....

[diamondsnake]

I want her new album to be really rock and roll. Songs like Fall From Grace, TISL, Running through the Garden, and Everybody Finds Out are what her current voice is made for. She sounds best on these fast paced rocking songs and I would love an album basically full of these types of songs.

[Miss Vicky]

Yeah, let's have John Shanks back to make her sound like even more of an AC grandma than he did the first time around the block. At least Sheryl put some life into her songs.

Umm... no. How about I prefer what unibrow did. <i>Bella Donna</i> was great. The rest of the albums fell progressively short of that. On the other hand, her music sounds best in the hands of a certain gifted guitarist...

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?

[diamondsnake]

Yeah, let's have John Shanks back to make her sound like even more of an AC grandma than he did the first time around the block. At least Sheryl put some life into her songs.
What songs did John produce?

Whoever produced TISL, Fall From Grace, Candlebright, Bombay Saphires... those are the songs I love. Even though I love the whole album.

[CreepingDeath]

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?

:nod: :thumbsup:

[diamondsnake]

Umm... no. How about I prefer what unibrow did. <i>Bella Donna</i> was great. The rest of the albums fell progressively short of that. On the other hand, her music sounds best in the hands of a certain gifted guitarist...

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?
No!!! Stevie solo all the way. I am a little tired of her sharing the spotlight with Lindsey and I think the Lindsey fans feel the same way about Stevie. I wouldn't mind Lindsey making a guest appearance on "Without You" though!

[dissention]

Umm... no. How about I prefer what unibrow did. <i>Bella Donna</i> was great. The rest of the albums fell progressively short of that. On the other hand, her music sounds best in the hands of a certain gifted guitarist...

Unibrow was a master in regards to Bella Donna and The Wild Heart. Everything afterwards collectively sucked, give or take a handful of great songs. I'm convinced she's somewhat deaf.

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?

Umm...no. How about a solo Buckingham album instead? Let her whore herself out as an oldies act and he can give us new music.

[dissention]

What songs did John produce?

The shitty ones.

[Miss Vicky]

No!!! Stevie solo all the way. I am a little tired of her sharing the spotlight with Lindsey and I think the Lindsey fans feel the same way about Stevie. I wouldn't mind Lindsey making a guest appearance on "Without You" though!

I'm tired of LB sharing the spotlight with her too... but I'm beginning to think there's not a snowball's chance in hell of getting another Lindsey solo album... so maybe if he and Stevie teamed up (minus Mick and John, nothing personal... at least in John's case) she could kick his ass and get <i>something</i> released. :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

Unibrow was a master in regards to Bella Donna and The Wild Heart. Everything afterwards collectively sucked, give or take a handful of great songs. I'm convinced she's somewhat deaf.



Umm...no. How about a solo Buckingham album instead? Let her whore herself out as an oldies act and he can give us new music.


See comments in above post.

[diamondsnake]

Umm...no. How about a solo Buckingham album instead? Let her whore herself out as an oldies act and he can give us new music.

Just because she decided to take a break off and is touring this summer doesn't make her an oldies act. I think she is just having some fun this summer (it's not like she is performing at the county fairs). Besides, Lindsey records so slowly, Stevie will most likely have an album out before he does, even though she hasn't even begun working on it yet.

[dissention]

John Shanks produced Every Day (blergh), Planets (stinker production, imo), and Fall From Grace. While the latter isn't too bad, though somewhat forced, Every Day is utter AC cheese. He also produced the title track, which is fine, though. Blame also falls onto the shoulders of David Kahne, who produced Love Changes, and Pierre Marchand, who gave us the disgustingly maudlin Love Is.

[dissention]

Just because she decided to take a break off and is touring this summer doesn't make her an oldies act. I think she is just having some fun this summer (it's not like she is performing at the county fairs). Besides, Lindsey records so slowly, Stevie will most likely have an album out before he does, even though she hasn't even begun working on it yet.

She's been an oldies act ever since the Mac started touring for Say You Will (and The Dance and TISL to some extent). Vegas didn't help matters, and neither do her two upcoming tours, Two Voices and Gold Dust. Just my opinion. I think she's milking the cow tits before she packs it in, but I know you don't agree. I don't foresee a new album for a long, long while and that's if one even happens.

[strandinthewind]

She's been an oldies act ever since the Mac started touring for Say You Will (and The Dance and TISL to some extent).

That is not really true. For TISL, she played six new songs (Sorcerer, TFFT, Everyday, POTU, FFG, and BS) and they played many for SYW, though LB got most I think (Come, WTTCT, and PK) shrug: So, it is a little disingenuous to call her an oldies act in those shows. Plus, for Enchanted, she hauled out things she had never played live before - so that was hardly an oldies show in the sense that an oldies show implies a GH tour, which incidentally and ironically, Enchanted sort of was promoting.

Note - I am probably forgeting some new songs above, but that is the gist of it.

I don't foresee a new album for a long, long while and that's if one even happens.

I know - and - I would not blame her as she has given up YEARS of her life and never really settled down for a year just to kick back and enjoy it. I mean she has toured essentially every other year since like 1973 and when not touring, she might take a few weeks off, but it is right back into the studio after that. So, as sad as it will make me to see it happen, if it indeed does, I wish her all the best.

[diamondsnake]

She's been an oldies act ever since the Mac started touring for Say You Will (and The Dance and TISL to some extent). Vegas didn't help matters, and neither do her two upcoming tours, Two Voices and Gold Dust. Just my opinion. I think she's milking the cow tits before she packs it in, but I know you don't agree. I don't foresee a new album for a long, long while and that's if one even happens.
Well, I don't see an album for at least a few years, but I am sure we will get one eventually. I've read a few articles lately that said she was planning on taking the year off but then decided to do Vegas and a couple mini tours. I just assumed that the "year off" thing meant a year off from working in the studio. Besides, as recently as last year she said she would be making music and performing even if she is up there in a walker! Unless she has met someone that she wants to settle down with or had a major change of heart I don't think she is calling it quits.

You could say I am in denial but it just doesn't make sense to me. I would say that if she is retiring from anything it would be from world-touring, just because she mentioned how working in Vegas was cool because she didn't like traveling that much at her age. Still, her two tours haven't even started yet. I think it is jumping the gun to say she is packing it in. But nothing tells me that she is retiring from studio work, I just think she is taking a break.

[lagringader&r]

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?

I love FM but other than a few songs on my list with Lindsey, I prefer Stevie solo. She has more energy and rocks it more when she's on her own. With Lindsey or with FM, she's stiffer and doesn't look as comfortable or self-assured. Not since the early days. I think Lindsey holds her back in some ways.

I love their voices together on BC or his guitar on a few songs, but that's it. :sorry:

[diamondsnake]

She's been an oldies act ever since the Mac started touring for Say You Will (and The Dance and TISL to some extent). Vegas didn't help matters, and neither do her two upcoming tours, Two Voices and Gold Dust. Just my opinion. I think she's milking the cow tits before she packs it in, but I know you don't agree. I don't foresee a new album for a long, long while and that's if one even happens.

If she is an oldies act (I don't consider touring with a new album an oldies act though, and Vegas was just a special event), I am kind of glad because I never got to see her perform back in the day when these songs were brand new.

I would bet that we see a Stevie album before we see a Lindsey album though.

[diamondsnake]

I love FM but other than a few songs on my list with Lindsey, I prefer Stevie solo. She has more energy and rocks it more when she's on her own. With Lindsey or with FM, she's stiffer and doesn't look as comfortable or self-assured. Not since the early days. I think Lindsey holds her back in some ways.

I love their voices together on BC or his guitar on a few songs, but that's it. :sorry:
Maybe Lindsey doesn't like Stevie's stage antics (twirling, etc.) or speaking in tongues, and Stevie doesn't want Lindsey to see who she really is. That would kind of explain (If the rumours are true and Lindsey was at the Tues/Wed show in Vegas) why she was so much crazier the last couple days of the Dreams Vegas set.

[GypsySorcerer]

No, wait. Scratch the idea of a new Stevie solo album. How about Buckingham Nicks II instead?

That was "Say You Will." :)

[GateandGarden]

John Shanks produced Every Day (blergh), Planets (stinker production, imo), and Fall From Grace. While the latter isn't too bad, though somewhat forced, Every Day is utter AC cheese. He also produced the title track, which is fine, though. Blame also falls onto the shoulders of David Kahne, who produced Love Changes, and Pierre Marchand, who gave us the disgustingly maudlin Love Is.I will not let you talk about "Every Day" like that in front of me! :p :laugh:

And I figured with POTU, they were going for a certain sound that was dramatically different from the demo version. I think they pulled that off. If you prefer the other style, that's not really the producer's fault, is it?

I've always considered "Fall From Grace" to be over-produced or overly something that I cannot describe. Same with "Trouble in Shangi-La," but I still love it.

[dissention]

Well, I don't see an album for at least a few years, but I am sure we will get one eventually. I've read a few articles lately that said she was planning on taking the year off but then decided to do Vegas and a couple mini tours. I just assumed that the "year off" thing meant a year off from working in the studio. Besides, as recently as last year she said she would be making music and performing even if she is up there in a walker! Unless she has met someone that she wants to settle down with or had a major change of heart I don't think she is calling it quits.

You could say I am in denial but it just doesn't make sense to me. I would say that if she is retiring from anything it would be from world-touring, just because she mentioned how working in Vegas was cool because she didn't like traveling that much at her age. Still, her two tours haven't even started yet. I think it is jumping the gun to say she is packing it in. But nothing tells me that she is retiring from studio work, I just think she is taking a break.

SYW was her first "world tour" in 15 years.

[diamondsnake]

John Shanks produced Every Day (blergh), Planets (stinker production, imo), and Fall From Grace. While the latter isn't too bad, though somewhat forced, Every Day is utter AC cheese. He also produced the title track, which is fine, though. Blame also falls onto the shoulders of David Kahne, who produced Love Changes, and Pierre Marchand, who gave us the disgustingly maudlin Love Is.
See, I love all those songs. The only song I don't like on the album is "It's Only Love".

[dissention]

If you prefer the other style, that's not really the producer's fault, is it?


No, but shit production is. :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

SYW was her first "world tour" in 15 years.
Oh boy...

I guess what I mean is that I don't see her doing any huge, grand tours anymore.

[dissention]

See, I love all those songs. The only song I don't like on the album is "It's Only Love".

And that's one song that I do like. :thumbsup:

[dissention]

Oh boy...

I guess what I mean is that I don't see her doing any huge, grand tours anymore.

I don't see her touring very much at all after this year, so there you go. She doesn't have the energy or, from what I see, the will to do it for much longer.

[diamondsnake]

And that's one song that I do like. :thumbsup:
No wonder we don't agree on anything!

[ontheEdgeof17]

I don't see her touring very much at all after this year, so there you go. She doesn't have the energy or, from what I see, the will to do it for much longer.


Well, she's touring without promoting a thing....and that's weird to me. She's never done that (Well, Pondering the Millenium....but that was for a special time). To me, it seems like it might be her last grand hurrah before settling down into a permanent residence, like Vegas....but I don't see her doing Vegas for a year or two, either.

[strandinthewind]

I don't see her touring very much at all after this year, so there you go. She doesn't have the energy or, from what I see, the will to do it for much longer.


I think she will play Vegas. It makes the most sense. The venue is smaller, the house, which includes other casinos, often papers much of it as comps to high rollers, she does not have to travel, it pays a comparative fortune, and she showed her worth a few weeks ago. I mean something like three weeks in Vegas makes a whole lot of sense when you compare it to 15 weeks on the road in the Summer heat :shrug: I'd certainly so it if I were her.

[diamondsnake]

I don't see her touring very much at all after this year, so there you go. She doesn't have the energy or, from what I see, the will to do it for much longer.
Normally this would depress me, but I still don't think it is true. Even if it is, she has two tours coming up (so I have that to look forward to) and I have already seen her half a dozen times and am planning to see her a couple times this summer.... So if she wants to settle down, more power to her, she deserves it- but the day she retires is the day I cry into my pillow.

[Rickypt]

I'd certainly so it if I were her.

Me too.

However, I would do something special for the fans and go on a final tour playing small theaters. Like the venues that Springsteen just played and that Annie Lennox did on her limited solo tour a couple of years ago.

That way people who don't have money to fly to Vegas could get the experience of seeing Stevie in a more intimate environment than an awful shed.

[diamondsnake]

I think she will play Vegas. It makes the most sense. The venue is smaller, the house, which includes other casinos, often papers much of it as comps to high rollers, she does not have to travel, it pays a comparative fortune, and she showed her worth a few weeks ago. I mean something like three weeks in Vegas makes a whole lot of sense when you compare it to 15 weeks on the road in the Summer heat :shrug: I'd certainly so it if I were her.
As long as she continues to do something I'll be happy. If she does Vegas for a week every few months that is cool because if you need a Stevie fix you can just fly out West. But if she falls off the face of the Earth (like Lindsey has ever since the SYW tour finished) then I'll be depressed. I don't see that ever happening though.

[dissention]

I think she will play Vegas. It makes the most sense. The venue is smaller, the house, which includes other casinos, often papers much of it as comps to high rollers, she does not have to travel, it pays a comparative fortune, and she showed her worth a few weeks ago. I mean something like three weeks in Vegas makes a whole lot of sense when you compare it to 15 weeks on the road in the Summer heat :shrug: I'd certainly so it if I were her.

Vegas isn't touring, so I'm sure she'll play there a few weeks per year to make some steak. But, again, I don't see her doing that for very long, either.

[diamondsnake]

Me too.

However, I would do something special for the fans and go on a final tour playing small theaters. Like the venues that Springsteen just played and that Annie Lennox did on her limited solo tour a couple of years ago.

That way people who don't have money to fly to Vegas could get the experience of seeing Stevie in a more intimate environment than an awful shed.
That would be so cool. I don't really mind the sheds though. I just wish she wouldn't do them in the heat of the Summer.

I just had a horrible thought- didn't Stevie get sick last summer because of the heat? What if that happens again? I'd be so upset if she has to cancel the Florida dates.

[lagringader&r]

Maybe Lindsey doesn't like Stevie's stage antics (twirling, etc.) or speaking in tongues, and Stevie doesn't want Lindsey to see who she really is. That would kind of explain (If the rumours are true and Lindsey was at the Tues/Wed show in Vegas) why she was so much crazier the last couple days of the Dreams Vegas set.

I still believe what Cory told me that Lindsey wasn't there but if in fact she was lying or trying to cover up some FM secret or conspiracy :rolleyes:, would that be a case of Mr. Control strikes again? I remember reading something Stevie said about how every little thing she did aggravated him (this was after their breakup), so maybe she does tone it down when he's around. Maybe some of that from that past has stuck with her..

That's one of the reasons Lindsey is *featured* as a guest on a few songs only in my list. I want her to let loose, rock out, not be inhibited (and she seems to be when he's on stage with her) and play by her rules. :nod: And, if Lindsey doesn't like it, he can pick up the pieces and go home.. :woohoo:

[diamondsnake]

I don't see her doing that for very long, either.

Think positively!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Obviously Stevie is a human being and will not live forever, but she isn't even sixty. Let's not send her to a nursing home just yet.

[lagringader&r]

Obviously Stevie is a human being and will not live forever, but she isn't even sixty. Let's not send her to a nursing home just yet.

John: Well said
Mick: And the band played on..

:thumbsup:

[diamondsnake]

I still believe what Cory told me that Lindsey wasn't there but if in fact she was lying or trying to cover up some FM secret or conspiracy :rolleyes:, would that be a case of Mr. Control strikes again? I remember reading something Stevie said about how every little thing she did aggravated him (this was after their breakup), so maybe she does tone it down when he's around. Maybe some of that from that past has stuck with her..

That's one of the reasons Lindsey is *featured* as a guest on a few songs only in my list. I want her to let loose, rock out, not be inhibited (and she seems to be when he's on stage with her) and play by her rules. :nod: And, if Lindsey doesn't like it, he can pick up the pieces and go home.. :woohoo:
Exactly, listen to any SYW bootleg and then listen to the Vegas boots from Fri/Sat. It is an amazing difference. She is so passionate with her vocals and twirled all night and did all these sensual dances. Said things like "Isn't it sexy?" Things that would most likely piss Lindsey off, so that is why she doesn't do them in front of him? It makes sense....

[Rickypt]

That would be so cool. I don't really mind the sheds though. I just wish she wouldn't do them in the heat of the Summer.

I just had a horrible thought- didn't Stevie get sick last summer because of the heat? What if that happens again? I'd be so upset if she has to cancel the Florida dates.

She got sick in 2001 and last year, and I believe both were shed-induced. That's why I'm surprised to see her doing them again this summer.

I really think this year's tour has been inflicted on her. I don't know the industry very well, but maybe she's under pressure from her management or record company or whatever.

[strandinthewind]

Vegas isn't touring, so I'm sure she'll play there a few weeks per year to make some steak. But, again, I don't see her doing that for very long, either.


I agree that it is not touring in the sense that she is performing in one location, but it is touring in the sense that she does not live there and must travel there :shrug: But, I say if it keeps her healthy and happy - more power to her.

[diamondsnake]

She got sick in 2001 and last year, and I believe both were shed-induced. That's why I'm surprised to see her doing them again this summer.

I really think this year's tour has been inflicted on her. I don't know the industry very well, but maybe she's under pressure from her management or record company or whatever.
Hmmm.... well that is weird that she would do sheds- again! This is a really short tour though and I don't think every date is a shed. I know the Miami date is indoors.

[dissention]

I agree that it is not touring in the sense that she is performing in one location, but it is touring in the sense that she does not live there and must travel there :shrug: But, I say if it keeps her healthy and happy - more power to her.

What a stretch. :laugh:

And what is all of this "Lindsey makes Stevie reserved and make sher hold back onstage" stuff? Has anyone stopped to think that they both front the band and Stevie sees it as an opportunity to not do as much onstage as she has to when she's solo and has to carry an entire show on her shoulders? Jeezum crow. That Lindsey, what an evil little devil he is to make poor Stevie retreat back into her shell.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Well, she's touring without promoting a thing....and that's weird to me. She's never done that (Well, Pondering the Millenium....but that was for a special time). To me, it seems like it might be her last grand hurrah before settling down into a permanent residence, like Vegas....but I don't see her doing Vegas for a year or two, either.

:nod: Considering Don is only doing the first 10 shows with her and yet is doing all of the press (which is minimal at best) is incredibly odd. Girlfriend is OVER IT, IMHO.

[ontheEdgeof17]

:nod: Considering Don is only doing the first 10 shows with her and yet is doing all of the press (which is minimal at best) is incredibly odd. Girlfriend is OVER IT, IMHO.


This leads me to wonder if her show will be half-assed. :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

This leads me to wonder if her show will be half-assed. :shrug:


They sure weren't in Vegas :shrug:

[GardenStateGirlie]

This leads me to wonder if her show will be half-assed. :shrug:

I don't think it will be half-assed. It seems like she's going into this not giving a shit (and it seems like no one else is caring much either) but I think once she sees her fans out there, she'll pour her heart out into her performance.

[ontheEdgeof17]

They sure weren't in Vegas :shrug:


It seems like she wanted to do Vegas. This upcoming tour...not so much.

[lagringader&r]

I really think this year's tour has been inflicted on her. I don't know the industry very well, but maybe she's under pressure from her management or record company or whatever.

I've had that thought, too. Still, I think Stevie likes to be out there and after two years on the road, I think it would be a big adjustment not to be. She had a rest, she looks it and I think this little gig is a short one and not the grueling every-other-night-in-a-new-place-for-months-on-end gig she did for SYW. And as I mentioned in an earlier post, she can have fun with it and not hold back (minus FM/Lindsey). She goes on after Henley and then they'll do a few duets together. I think she's probably pretty pumped up about it. :nod:

Kinda hope she's not hooking up with Henley again though.. I mean really hooking up..

[GardenStateGirlie]

They sure weren't in Vegas :shrug:

Word. They most certainly were not. They were amazing. Buuut, it seemed to me that she was also banking on the fact that she'd make a favorable impression with Caesar's and the audience so that she'd get to come back again. It's good money, she won't have to tour, and she's not far from home. No time changes, no outdoors, etc. It's perfect for her to set up retirement. However, Vegas seemed to be far more planned out than this tour. I still think she'll do a great job for all of us paying to see her.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I don't think it will be half-assed. It seems like she's going into this not giving a shit (and it seems like no one else is caring much either) but I think once she sees her fans out there, she'll pour her heart out into her performance.


I hope so. :D


Honestly, I'm just looking forward to the duet portion. It's not too often that her and Don get together. L&L is not the best song out of her collection, but it's something I wanna see before it never happens again.

[dissention]

They sure weren't in Vegas :shrug:

Because she didn't have to travel across the country, she didn't have to worry about getting respiratory problems, and she didn't have to worry about the weather and other such shit when one is on tour. She got to rest plenty without being cooped up in a tour bus, etc. All she had to do was get up onstage and sing. I wonder if she utilized Celine's newfangled moisture gadgets.

[strandinthewind]

Because she didn't have to travel across the country, she didn't have to worry about getting respiratory problems, and she didn't have to worry about the weather and other such shit when one is on tour. All she had to do was get up onstage and sing. I wonder if she utilized Celine's newfangled moisture gadgets.


She probably did a few weeks ago :cool:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I wonder if she utilized Celine's newfangled moisture gadgets.


I'm just glad she didn't try out her Flock of Seagulls haircut! :eek:

[strandinthewind]

I'm just glad she didn't try out her Flock of Seagulls haircut! :eek:

and I ran - I ran so far away - I couldn't get away

LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact, I am downloading them into my Ipod this evening :woohoo: :woohoo:

[diamondsnake]

It seems like she wanted to do Vegas. This upcoming tour...not so much.
Still, she only did one or two interviews about Vegas. So, even though she wanted to do it she wasn't doing a lot of press.

I'd like to see her do Regis and Kelly, or Ellen, or something. I think she would be great on Oprah. She could do a couple songs and Oprah could talk to her about drugs, weight, what it was like touring for 2 years with her ex lover, etc. It could be great!

The Gold Dust Tour is still a month away so she may do some press for it...

[GardenStateGirlie]

I hope so. :D


Honestly, I'm just looking forward to the duet portion. It's not too often that her and Don get together. L&L is not the best song out of her collection, but it's something I wanna see before it never happens again.

I'd rather hear Highwayman or something else entirely as opposed to Leather and Lace. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll do something totally out of the ordinary and we can say we were there to see it. That? would be awesome. So, no L&L...thanks :D

[dissention]

Word. They most certainly were not. They were amazing. Buuut, it seemed to me that she was also banking on the fact that she'd make a favorable impression with Caesar's and the audience so that she'd get to come back again.

:nod:

I also think that's why she built up the show to epic proportions, in order to pique the interest of folks and get their asses into the seats. She wanted to show Caesar's that she could pack them in so that she could get a good gig there.

[GardenStateGirlie]

The Gold Dust Tour is still a month away so she may do some press for it...

Actually, it starts this Friday--or am I going to watch an empty stage??? :shocked:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I'd rather hear Highwayman or something else entirely as opposed to Leather and Lace. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll do something totally out of the ordinary and we can say we were there to see it. That? would be awesome. So, no L&L...thanks :D

Agreed.

I think she will do a couple Don songs with him. I really do. It would be better than L&L :prayz real hard:

[GypsySorcerer]

:nod:

I also think that's why she built up the show to epic proportions, in order to pique the interest of folks and get their asses into the seats. She wanted to show Caesar's that she could pack them in so that she could get a good gig there.

That's another thing......regardless of Stevie's desire to tour (or not), her health, etc, if her shows don't sell well, very few people are going to book her in the future.

[diamondsnake]

Actually, it starts this Friday--or am I going to watch an empty stage??? :shocked:
That is the "Two Voices" Tour with Don, right? I was talking about the Gold Dust tour, the solo one.

[GardenStateGirlie]

:nod:

I also think that's why she built up the show to epic proportions, in order to pique the interest of folks and get their asses into the seats. She wanted to show Caesar's that she could pack them in so that she could get a good gig there.

Exactly. And who's to say it won't be more epic if she comes back? As far as i'm concerned, this was like her little trial run. I think they wanted to see how she sold before they wrote her another check and I think she did pretty damn well considering she's filling in for Elton John and Celine Dion--two people that pack a house every night. If it will be more elaborate in the future, i'll go again. She was amazing.

[strandinthewind]

:nod:

I also think that's why she built up the show to epic proportions, in order to pique the interest of folks and get their asses into the seats. She wanted to show Caesar's that she could pack them in so that she could get a good gig there.


Well, I think she was genuinely excited about them. If you listen to her landslide dedication on the Sat. Vegas show, she agaion goes into how much work they had to put into it with the screens and the stage being so different. So, I do not think she was in any way laying in the Ladd and other interviews. I also think that because she created footage for the screens and hauled out new outfits and songs not played live in a decade or more, she thought she delivered on what she promised. In my book, she did with the visuals and some of the reintroduced songs, though I wish she had done more.

[diamondsnake]

:nod:

I also think that's why she built up the show to epic proportions, in order to pique the interest of folks and get their asses into the seats. She wanted to show Caesar's that she could pack them in so that she could get a good gig there.
Maybe that is also why she sucked up to them and dedicated Landslide to "All the People at Caesar's Palace" on Saturday?

[dissention]

Well, I think she was genuinely excited about them. If you listen to her landslide dedication on the Sat. Vegas show, she agaion goes into how much work they had to put into it with the screens and the stage being so different. So, I do not think she was in any way laying in the Ladd and other interviews. I also think that because she created footage for the screens and hauled out new outfits and songs not played live in a decade or more, she thought she delivered on what she promised. In my book, she did with the visuals and some of the reintroduced songs, though I wish she had done more.

Yeah. I can create raindrop animations on my PC right now. :laugh:

I don't know if I'd call her Ladd interview a bunch of "lies," but I would call them embellishments.

[strandinthewind]

Maybe that is also why she sucked up to them and dedicated Landslide to "All the People at Caesar's Palace" on Saturday?


or she could have been genuinely thankful - why is it everyone seems to think Stevie is this calculating, conniving bitch - I will never get it.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Exactly. And who's to say it won't be more epic if she comes back? As far as i'm concerned, this was like her little trial run. I think they wanted to see how she sold before they wrote her another check and I think she did pretty damn well considering she's filling in for Elton John and Celine Dion--two people that pack a house every night. If it will be more elaborate in the future, i'll go again. She was amazing.


There's no doubt in my mind that she will return to Vegas. I can't see her more than just a fill-in though at this point.

[dissention]

Maybe that is also why she sucked up to them and dedicated Landslide to "All the People at Caesar's Palace" on Saturday?

Hee. I didn't hear that. :laugh:

"Give me a good contract or I'll sic the spirit of Rhiannon after you, ya bitches."

[GardenStateGirlie]

That is the "Two Voices" Tour with Don, right? I was talking about the Gold Dust tour, the solo one.

Sweetie, if she hasn't done anything now...she's not going to...JMO. It carries right into her solo gig. She and Henley open the tour this Friday and then on June 30th, she's back here in Atlantic City. Do you know what they're advertising for the 30th? Nothing. Stevie has always done an interview with Debbi Calton from WMGK here in Philadelphia before she comes here for a show. Guess who did the interview? Don. Not Stevie. She's just not into this is my opinion.

[diamondsnake]

Well, I think she was genuinely excited about them. If you listen to her landslide dedication on the Sat. Vegas show, she agaion goes into how much work they had to put into it with the screens and the stage being so different. So, I do not think she was in any way laying in the Ladd and other interviews. I also think that because she created footage for the screens and hauled out new outfits and songs not played live in a decade or more, she thought she delivered on what she promised. In my book, she did with the visuals and some of the reintroduced songs, though I wish she had done more.
I was really happy with Vegas too! It was great... I think she would have almost been selling out if she had a carnival on stage or did cartwheels.

[dissention]

or she could have been genuinely thankful - why is it everyone seems to think Stevie is this calculating, conniving bitch - I will never get it.

I think you got your drama queen cues from Stevie, sweetie. :laugh:

No one called her a calculating, conniving bitch. But you seem to be oblivious to the fact that her job isn't merely to get up there and sing songs, it's to sell herself to the public so that she makes the cash and continues with her career. That was the sole reason she went on Jim Ladd in the first place, TO SELL HERSELF.

[diamondsnake]

or she could have been genuinely thankful - why is it everyone seems to think Stevie is this calculating, conniving bitch - I will never get it.
I'm just joking! Stevie is my idol- I'd never think she was a bitch!

[dissention]

Sweetie, if she hasn't done anything now...she's not going to...JMO. It carries right into her solo gig. She and Henley open the tour this Friday and then on June 30th, she's back here in Atlantic City. Do you know what they're advertising for the 30th? Nothing. Stevie has always done an interview with Debbi Calton from WMGK here in Philadelphia before she comes here for a show. Guess who did the interview? Don. Not Stevie. She's just not into this is my opinion.

I don't blame her. The way he talks about it is rather classless. "I'll ditch Stevie for The Eagles, no biggie."

[amber]

or she could have been genuinely thankful - why is it everyone seems to think Stevie is this calculating, conniving bitch - I will never get it.
I think she is very calculating, in a good way. As a compliment. Not conniving, though, and not a bitch. I think she was genuinely thankful.

[diamondsnake]

Sweetie, if she hasn't done anything now...she's not going to...JMO. It carries right into her solo gig. She and Henley open the tour this Friday and then on June 30th, she's back here in Atlantic City. Do you know what they're advertising for the 30th? Nothing. Stevie has always done an interview with Debbi Calton from WMGK here in Philadelphia before she comes here for a show. Guess who did the interview? Don. Not Stevie. She's just not into this is my opinion.
Hmmm... did FM do any press for their shed tour last summer? It does seem strange that she hasn't done anything.

[GardenStateGirlie]

There's no doubt in my mind that she will return to Vegas. I can't see her more than just a fill-in though at this point.

Oh, I believe she will too. But no, I think she's not expecting to be anymore than a fill-in and I don't think that would be a big deal to her if they never considered her to be more. Just periods of time...playing shows...time off...playing a few shows....time off. It just makes sense judging everything she's been saying in recent months a la the Jim Ladd interview. I think she's finally ready to settle down and just chill out for a while. This is a way for her to still do what she loves, make bucketloads of money and not have to travel.

[dissention]

I think she is very calculating, in a good way. As a compliment. Not conniving, though, and not a bitch. I think she was genuinely thankful.

Exactly. She has to be calculating to some degree in order to have gotten this far. She's not exactly as dumb as a box of rocks, that's Mick's forte.

[strandinthewind]

I think you got your drama queen cues from Stevie, sweetie. :laugh:

No one called her a calculating, conniving bitch. But you seem to be oblivious to the fact that her job isn't merely to get up there and sing songs, it's to sell herself to the public so that she makes the cash and continues with her career. That was the sole reason she went on Jim Ladd in the first place, TO SELL HERSELF.


duh - of course she has to promote herself. I just think she honestly did the best she could in the amount of time she had. Again, she got movie rights, filmed Frederick Hart sculptures, etc. - edited/formatted all of that and then synced it to a live Rock show and then had to rehearse it. That is a lot of stuff to do. But, if you are saying you see no malfeasance in her Ladd interview and in her thanks to the CP people for their work - I believe you.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I don't blame her. The way he talks about it is rather classless. "I'll ditch Stevie for The Eagles, no biggie."


Who's idea was this tour in the first place? Doesn't sound like Don or Stevie's.

It kills me that she helps him out with his benefits, but he can't extend a tour with her past 10 dates? Pft.


This might be a good thing...solo Stevie is much better.

[amber]

Exactly. She has to be calculating to some degree in order to have gotten this far. She's not exactly as dumb as a box of rocks, that's Mick's forte.
:lol:
Oh, he is not. But lets say he is. :laugh: Then lets say Mick is the conniving one. :nod: :nod: Then lets say "hello, Mick, don't try to be conniving if you are as dumb as a box of rocks!!!" :lol:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I don't blame her. The way he talks about it is rather classless. "I'll ditch Stevie for The Eagles, no biggie."

I don't think he was ever going to do more than a few dates with her, IMO. The Eagles are about to have a show on NBC (maybe it already happened) about their Farewell Tour I and I would assume their zillion California dates coming up in September would mean they're going to finish whatever studio album they've been working on, rehearse, and then do more touring. Stevie had to have known he wouldn't be able to commit anymore to her than just a few dates. This was something that was thrown together very haphazardly.

[dissention]

Who's idea was this tour in the first place? Doesn't sound like Don or Stevie's.

Blergh. I could care less because they both signed on the dotted line. If they weren't into it, they shouldn't have agreed. End of story. Neither gets sympathy from me and no one had to twist their arms.

The way he discusses the tour, though, is pretty classless and I'd slap him if I were Stevie.

It kills me that she helps him out with his benefits, but he can't extend a tour with her past 10 dates? Pft.

This might be a good thing...solo Stevie is much better.

I loathe Don Henley, so let's just those ten dates over and done with and hope that she puts on a kick-ass solo show.

[strandinthewind]

Exactly. She has to be calculating to some degree in order to have gotten this far. She's not exactly as dumb as a box of rocks, that's Mick's forte.


Of course she is a business woman and she is aware of what that entails. It just seems that everytime she says she is going to do something and it either does not happen at all or does not meet up to people's expectations, people say she lied/embellished/whatever. I think she really did try and did the best she could in the three or so weeks she had and I think that the end product was okay and brilliant in some points like the movie footage. it is just people always seem to wanna guff her and not even hear anything about her trying.

[Sugar]

"Give me a good contract or I'll sic the spirit of Rhiannon after you, ya bitches."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dissention]

:lol:
Oh, he is not. But lets say he is. :laugh: Then lets say Mick is the conniving one. :nod: :nod: Then lets say "hello, Mick, don't try to be conniving if you are as dumb as a box of rocks!!!" :lol:

:laugh:

Oh, he is and he's got the bankruptcy record to prove it.

Mick attempting to be conniving is like a one-legged man trying to win a butt-kicking contest. He's just a dunce in every sense of the word and he thinks of us fans as nothing more than tits that need milking. :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

I don't blame her. The way he talks about it is rather classless. "I'll ditch Stevie for The Eagles, no biggie."
I'd be pissed if I were Stevie. This whole tour was supposed to be with Don and then she was left to do most of the dates on her own. I have a feeling this "Two Voices" tour will be the last time these guys work together.

[strandinthewind]

:laugh:

Oh, he is and he's got the bankruptcy record to prove it.

With all due respect, you do not have to be an idiot or stupid to declare bankruptcy :shrug:

[dissention]

I have a feeling this "Two Voices" tour will be the last time these guys work together.

Phew. Thank the stars for that.

[ontheEdgeof17]

With all due respect, you do not have to be an idiot or stupid to declare bankruptcy :shrug:


True, but when you are at the top of your game (a la Tusk Tour) and you blow all that money on ridiculous things, then that is stupid.

[amber]

With all due respect, you do not have to be an idiot or stupid to declare bankruptcy :shrug:
That's very true. I would not have referred to that, I would have spoken of other instances of his conniving conniversomness.

[dissention]

With all due respect, you do not have to be an idiot or stupid to declare bankruptcy :shrug:

You're right. You have to be stupid to think that people will want to buy your useless junk because you were involved in creating and selling it. I mean, golf videos? :laugh:

[dudden22]

Phew. Thank the stars for that.

:laugh: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

True, but when you are at the top of your game (a la Tusk Tour) and you blow all that money on ridiculous things, then that is stupid.


I agree and he seemingly was - I was just referring to the general implication :cool:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Phew. Thank the stars for that.

We can only hope, my friend. We can only hope.

[diamondsnake]

Phew. Thank the stars for that.

:nod: :nod: :nod:
I'm glad the shows I am seeing are solo!

[diamondsnake]

Oh, I believe she will too. But no, I think she's not expecting to be anymore than a fill-in and I don't think that would be a big deal to her if they never considered her to be more. Just periods of time...playing shows...time off...playing a few shows....time off. It just makes sense judging everything she's been saying in recent months a la the Jim Ladd interview. I think she's finally ready to settle down and just chill out for a while. This is a way for her to still do what she loves, make bucketloads of money and not have to travel.
I still think she is going to do another solo album even if she does settle down there is no reason she can't record music in Phoenix is there?

[dissention]

I agree and he seemingly was - I was just referring to the general implication :cool:

Yeah, because when I'm talking about Mick Fleetwood, I'm talking about every person who ever went bankrupt. :rolleyes:

He had millions and squandered them on drugs and shitty real estate deals. It's his own bloody fault that he had such financial issues.

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, because when I'm talking about Mick Fleetwood, I'm talking about every person who ever went bankrupt. :rolleyes:

He had millions and squandered them on drugs and shitty real estate deals. It's his own bloody fault that he had such financial issues.


Interestingly and overlooked by you, drug addiction is a disease :xoxo:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I still think she is going to do another solo album even if she does settle down there is no reason she can't record music in Phoenix is there?

Reprise couldn't afford to let her release an album and not tour to promote it, IMO. If she were to do another solo album...which I still don't think she will... she'd have to tour.

[dissention]

Interestingly and overlooked by you, drug addiction is a disease :xoxo:

Yet still a choice in that people make the decision to begin using in the first place.

But as Stevie once said, "No one ever told us they were bad. NO ONE."

[diamondsnake]

Reprise couldn't afford to let her release an album and not tour to promote it, IMO. If she were to do another solo album...which I still don't think she will... she'd have to tour.
Who says she won't tour? She has two tours coming up- she doesn't seem to mind touring.

[strandinthewind]

Yet still a choice in that people make the decision to begin using in the first place.

But as Stevie once said, "No one ever told us they were bad. NO ONE."


See what I mean!!!! :angel:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Who says she won't tour? She has two tours coming up- she doesn't seem to mind touring.

She pretty much alludes to such in the Jim Ladd interview--about how she's getting older now and Vegas is a chance for her to kind of mellow out. I don't think these tours were her idea, my friend. No album to promote, she owes her label two more albums...they want money...she had an advance for TISL and other albums from the label. I'm putting two and two together. This is it, IMO :sorry:

[strandinthewind]

She pretty much alludes to such in the Jim Ladd interview--about how she's getting older now and Vegas is a chance for her to kind of mellow out. I don't think these tours were her idea, my friend. No album to promote, she owes her label two more albums...they want money...she had an advance for TISL and other albums from the label. I'm putting two and two together. This is it, IMO :sorry:


Have we acctually seen her contract and know for sure she owes Warner's two more records? I mean certainly she cut some deal for SYW to be one of anything she may own and then the extra touring she did for that must have counted for something.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Who says she won't tour? She has two tours coming up- she doesn't seem to mind touring.


It takes it toll. TISL was awful by time it ended. It was a bore to watch and listen to. :sorry: If this tour ends up the same, then she should "throw in the towel," as Don would say. ;)

[strandinthewind]

It takes it toll. TISL was awful by time it ended. It was a bore to watch and listen to. :sorry: If this tour ends up the same, then she should "throw in the towel," as Don would say. ;)


Interestingly, I always wonder if it would be a bore to a non-multiple show fan. If you just saw it one time it might not be.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Have we acctually seen her contract and know for sure she owes Warner's two more records? I mean certainly she cut some deal for SYW to be one of anything she may own and then the extra touring she did for that must have counted for something.

She owes them two more. It would be a rarity for them to give her a two album deal or just the one. Generally, it's three. Fleetwood Mac is seperate from Stevie Nicks...they don't add them together when they advance someone for solo dealings :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

She owes them two more. It would be a rarity for them to give her a two album deal or just the one. Generally, it's three. Fleetwood Mac is seperate from Stevie Nicks...they don't add them together when they advance someone for solo dealings :laugh:


Have we seen the contract?

[amber]

Interestingly, I always wonder if it would be a bore to a non-multiple show fan. If you just saw it one time it might not be.
I didn't think it was, I only saw it once. It was more boring only cause I was on the lawn, otherwise I loved it.

[ontheEdgeof17]

She owes them two more. It would be a rarity for them to give her a two album deal or just the one. Generally, it's three. Fleetwood Mac is seperate from Stevie Nicks...they don't add them together when they advance someone for solo dealings :laugh:


She's touring to pay back the advancement and to ditch the albums. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

I know FM and solo are sep. But, she clearly could have said through her managers, if you want me with The Mac, we need to reach an new deal because that is two years out of my life and in that time I planned to do a solo record. That is not unusual in the world of contracts and in the entertainment legal fields.

[dissention]

See what I mean!!!! :angel:

You mean about Stevie talking out of her ass? :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

She's touring to pay back the advancement and to ditch the albums. :wavey:


I find it hard to believe she could not just write them a check to pay back the million or so they MAY have advanced her. Thus, I think she wants to tour and is doing so. But, who knows in the end and only time will tell.

[GardenStateGirlie]

She's touring to pay back the advancement and to ditch the albums. :wavey:

Someone read between the lines ;)

[strandinthewind]

You mean about Stevie talking out of her ass? :laugh:


their you go again being hateful - some people are just so negative :xoxo:

[dissention]

Interestingly, I always wonder if it would be a bore to a non-multiple show fan. If you just saw it one time it might not be.

I went to the Boston TISL show with a casual fan that I had seen Enchanted with (which she loved) and she thought the TISL show was as dull as dishwater. No punch, no enthusiasm, etc. Before that, I had gone to the Connecticut TISL show with two friends who didn't really know her well but liked the songs they had heard. They, too, found the show lackluster. The whole tour was just...blah. The new songs didn't sound good, her voice was weak, she was immobile because she was sick a lot, etc. It only started getting good around October...the month that it ended.

[dissention]

their you go again being hateful - some people are just so negative :xoxo:

Yeah, because there's nothing harmful whatsoever about snorting white powder up your nose on a constant basis. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, because there's nothing harmful whatsoever about snorting white powder up your nose on a constant basis. :laugh:

drugs are addictive :shrug: At least he was smart enough to stop, which you have yet to give him credit for :wavey:

[amber]

I went to the Boston TISL show with a casual fan that I had seen Enchanted with (which she loved) and she thought the TISL show was as dull as dishwater. No punch, no enthusiasm, etc. Before that, I had gone to the Connecticut TISL show with two friends who didn't really know her well but liked the songs they had heard. They, too, found the show lackluster. The whole tour was just...blah. The new songs didn't sound good, her voice was weak, she was immobile because she was sick a lot, etc. It only started getting good around October...the month that it ended.
I thought it was fine. But I saw it Sept. 30th, I think, was it better then? FFG especially set my panties on fire...

[ontheEdgeof17]

Someone read between the lines ;)


Anything else you would like me to do for you?

[amber]

Yeah, because there's nothing harmful whatsoever about snorting white powder up your nose on a constant basis. :laugh:
True, it's better for you to just have a binge a month, or so.... :laugh:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Anything else you would like me to do for you?

You know, now that you mention it, my back is kind of sore.... :laugh: ;)

[ontheEdgeof17]

You know, now that you mention it, my back is kind of sore.... :laugh: ;)

:laugh:

Don't push it.

[dissention]

drugs are addictive :shrug: At least he was smart enough to stop, which you have yet to give him credit for :wavey:

Yes, they're addictive, no one is stupid enough to refute that. But it's called personal responsibility, something that doesn't become null and void once someone uses drugs. They started it in the first place, it was their choice.

I didn't think I needed to give him more credit for kicking drugs when it's obviously quite an accomplishment.

[dissention]

I thought it was fine. But I saw it Sept. 30th, I think, was it better then? FFG especially set my panties on fire...

From the boots I've heard, she was getting better by then. But from the end of July and leading up to then...wretched. :laugh:

[Serrart]

Umm...no. How about a solo Buckingham album instead? Let her whore herself out as an oldies act and he can give us new music.

Not even George Lucas would buy that... ;)

She's been an oldies act ever since the Mac started touring for Say You Will (and The Dance and TISL to some extent). Vegas didn't help matters, and neither do her two upcoming tours, Two Voices and Gold Dust. Just my opinion. I think she's milking the cow tits before she packs it in, but I know you don't agree. I don't foresee a new album for a long, long while and that's if one even happens.

I think Autumn/Winter 2006... That's the reason why she's touring now, she'll be in the studio next year, I think.

Romy

[strandinthewind]

From the boots I've heard, she was getting better by then. But from the end of July and leading up to then...wretched. :laugh:


Well, that is when she got sick :shrug: I was at the PNC show, which I think was the last one prior to the beginning of the cancellations and though the show was good, it was obvious to me that she was not well. So, I do not fault her for that (not that you did) - I think she was just trying to get through a horrifying situation. I remember feeling so sorry for her when it happened - then 9/11 happens. I mean that is a lot to take.

[SapphireSister]

Well, that is when she got sick :shrug: I was at the PNC show, which I think was the last one prior to the beginning of the cancellations and though the show was good, it was obvious to me that she was not well. So, I do not fault her for that (not that you did) - I think she was just trying to get through a horrifying situation. I remember feeling so sorry for her when it happened - then 9/11 happens. I mean that is a lot to take.

In the infamous Jim Ladd interview she talks about how much 9/11 affected everything about TISL and how she was not even able to listen to the songs for a long time. I thought that was very interesting. Basically she was saying 9/11 ruined TISL for her :(

[CreepingDeath]

One of my friends came with me to a couple of TISL shows (the make up dates in Vegas). She was just a casual fan, but thought the show was really good. Of course, like Diss mentioned it was in October when things were getting better. Sooooo, who knows. :shrug:


On a side note- I think Stevie was really good at the AHI show that year too.

[ejof17]

"The latest from Rock legend Stevie Nicks, in stores July 4th Weekend..."

Title: Mistaken Love

Track Listing:

Chanel, chanel
The Dealer
Julia
My Heart
Belle Fleur
Love and War
Mistaken Love
Sanctuary
NEW
NEW Duet w/ Lindsey Buckingham
NEW Duet w/ Sheryl Crow
NEW Duet w/ Tom Petty

[KarmaContestant]

All TISL tour-quality-debate aside (I saw her in Denver, thought the show was great), I want to make my own album. :D

Assuming there was no new material, and only demos for songs that we've all heard, I'd take it this way, in this order, and call the album "My Heart":

The Dealer
Chanel Chanel
Are You Mine
All The Beautiful Worlds
Rich Old Lady
Baby Doll
Lady From The Mountain
Space Needle
Love You Enough (My Love Is Never Lost)
My Heart
She Loves Him Still

[GODDESS6]

well this is a cd i put 2gether, that i listen 2 the quite often~

At The Fair
Gold & Braid~demo version
Julia #5 from master reel
Mabel Normand
Rich Old Lady
Chanel, Chanel
Races Are Run~Buck/Nicks live
Rhiannon~Buck/Nicks live
Sorcerer~Buck/Nicks live
Forest Of The Black Roses
Melacine
Watchdevil
The Dealer
Gypsy Beggar
Maker Of The Birds
Lady From The Montain

[Serrart]

I forgot to make the album too, so...

Eighteen tracks; title: 'An octagon of unaccustomed light' or 'Dreaming and the upward sky' (With a 'thanks Dylan Thomas for the title' in the credits :p )
Joan Of Arc
New Song
Inspiration
New Song
Space Needle
New Song
Chanel Chanel
New Song
She loves Him Still
New Song
My Heart
New Song
Lady From The Mountain
New Song
Christian
New Song
Night Gallery
New Song

Romy

[Kelly]

I still believe what Cory told me that Lindsey wasn't there but if in fact she was lying or trying to cover up some FM secret or conspiracy :rolleyes:, would that be a case of Mr. Control strikes again? I remember reading something Stevie said about how every little thing she did aggravated him (this was after their breakup), so maybe she does tone it down when he's around. Maybe some of that from that past has stuck with her..

That's one of the reasons Lindsey is *featured* as a guest on a few songs only in my list. I want her to let loose, rock out, not be inhibited (and she seems to be when he's on stage with her) and play by her rules. :nod: And, if Lindsey doesn't like it, he can pick up the pieces and go home.. :woohoo:

I saw Lindsey there. I know a few other people who did too who were not with me. Cory is not a liar and it is not a conspiracy. I said elsewhere, her circle doesn't have to be honest about anything with fans.

I do not think he inhibits her anymore, in fact this last tour..I think he took some of the load off her. Load she did not want.

[CreepingDeath]

I saw Lindsey there. I know a few other people who did too who were not with me. Cory is not a liar and it is not a conspiracy. I said elsewhere, her circle doesn't have to be honest about anything with fans.

I do not think he inhibits her anymore, in fact this last tour..I think he took some of the load off her. Load she did not want.

My friends and I saw him too.

I don't have much more to say on the board about it, just backing ya up, Kelly.

[Rickypt]

Well, I don't have access to the same technology as everyone else, and I haven't heard of any of the songs you've been floating. In my opinion, if all Stevie has is a bunch of 30 year old songs left, then forget about any new album.

[Moony]

Not in any particular order...

Lady From the Mountain
Christian
Mistaken Love
Julia
Space Needle

...and 7 new songs

[GateandGarden]

Julia #5 from master reelThat's the best version. :nod:

[nickslover2071]

The Dealer
new song
new song
If you were my love
Maker of the birds(Three Birds of Rhiannon)
new song
Inspiration(country twang to it)
new song
Baby Doll(rocking version)
new duet w/tom petty
gold and braid
Lady from the mountain
bonus track
dreams(deep dish remix)

i can only dream :blob1:

[svnwndrs]

Almost ALL of Stevie's unreleased songs have so much potential! I can only think of a few I would want on a new album though...here goes...

At The Fair (do it in the same style as POTU)
Blue Water
Cecelia
Chanel, Chanel (a new version of this would be REALLY cool, I LOVE it)
The Dealer (rock this one out, Stevie!)
Forest of the Black Roses (with Amy Lee of Evanescence)
Lady From The Mountain
Secret Love (with Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz, LOL :laugh: )
I Call You Missing
Space Needle
Watchdevil

And of course some new songs!

[catinthedark]

Well, I don't have access to the same technology as everyone else, and I haven't heard of any of the songs you've been floating. In my opinion, if all Stevie has is a bunch of 30 year old songs left, then forget about any new album.

Ah, but we don't know what masterpieces she composed during the SYW tour...

My opinion about the whole Don-Stevie tour is that she's not so into it, and letting him do all the promo for it, because he screwed her over! They had signed on for dates through July, and then he ups and decides The Eagles are more important. "Sorry, Stevie. You've booked your band and all, and made a commitment, but it means sh*t to me." Can ya blame her for maybe not being so into it anymore? That said, I'll be seeing a Don-Stevie show, and I fully expect her to rock, twirl, kick, and sing her ass off. She's not going to take it out on her fans.

And... I think she has one more album up her gossamer sleeve. She wouldn't just fade off into the sunset. There will be a final album, and a farewell tour at some point - either Stevie solo, or a big Fleetwood Mac one.

[diamondsnake]

Well, I don't have access to the same technology as everyone else, and I haven't heard of any of the songs you've been floating. In my opinion, if all Stevie has is a bunch of 30 year old songs left, then forget about any new album.
No one is saying that she would put out an album of strictly old material... I think she refuses to do that because like you said she might as well just forget it if she can't write a song in the present day. Like for SYW 3 songs dated back to the 70's and 80's (Running through the Garden, Goodbye Baby, Smile At You), 4 songs were specifically written for the album (Silver Girl, Destiny Rules, SYW, Everybody Finds Out), and a few of the songs were written a couple years prior to working on SYW (Thrown Down, Not Make Believe, and Illume). So it was pretty mixed as far as new and old material goes, but most of it was relatively new.

[GODDESS6]

That's the best version. :nod:

very delish, i love it!!!~

[Rickypt]

I was mistaken; I thought the songs everyone is posting are very old, like from the BN days.