"Sara" lyrics

[ka10]

The very first time I ever heard "Sara" (on the FM Greatest Hits cd), I remember being taken aback because I could've sworn the opening line of the chorus was, "Dead Sara, you're the poet in my heart..." The morbid reference really caught me off-guard! :shocked: Then, after seeing the lyrics to the less-edited versions, I thought maybe it was just a tweaked version of original "He said, 'Sara...'" But now that I know about the whole abortion tie-in, and have been listening to the song a lot again recently, I still swear it sounds like, "Dead Sara"... Does anybody else hear this, too? :shrug:

~Kat

[ontheEdgeof17]

Wow. I never heard "dead" before while listening to it. :eek: From the first time I heard it (way back in the day), I always thought it was "He said".



What would be very odd and tense would be if Stevie sang "Sara" this summer with Don in the wings. :shocked: It won't happen, but just a thought.

[DrummerDeanna]

No but if you play play Rhiannon backwards she says, "Mick is dead...miss him miss him miss him..." Oh wait. ....wrong band :p

Man - I REALLY need a nap :]

[Kelly]

I am not completely convinced that Sara has all that much to do with an aborted baby, yes..its in there but the source is...DON. enuff said.

I tend to think the song is more about what Stevie says "its about all of us in Fleetwood Mac and what was going on in our lives at that time" .....I do not hear DEAD Sara.


There is only one song of Stevie's that I think is entirely about a lost baby and it isn't Sara. :nod:

[strandinthewind]

I am not completely convinced that Sara has all that much to do with an aborted baby, yes..its in there but the source is...DON. enuff said.

I tend to think the song is more about what Stevie says "its about all of us in Fleetwood Mac and what was going on in our lives at that time" .....I do not hear DEAD Sara.


There is only one song of Stevie's that I think is entirely about a lost baby and it isn't Sara. :nod:


She also said it was "pretty much about Mick" in the VH-1 fan interview :shrug: Here we go again :laugh:

[amber]

The very first time I ever heard "Sara" (on the FM Greatest Hits cd), I remember being taken aback because I could've sworn the opening line of the chorus was, "Dead Sara, you're the poet in my heart..." The morbid reference really caught me off-guard! :shocked: Then, after seeing the lyrics to the less-edited versions, I thought maybe it was just a tweaked version of original "He said, 'Sara...'" But now that I know about the whole abortion tie-in, and have been listening to the song a lot again recently, I still swear it sounds like, "Dead Sara"... Does anybody else hear this, too? :shrug:

~Kat
No, I never thought that, but I messed up plenty of the other words to Sara, and, indeed, until very recently had only the vaguest grasp of what she was saying in many of her songs. Didn't matter, though. So, anyway, no, I never heard "dead Sara", sorry. However, I did think "undoing the laces" vaguely was "I knew him, the lady says" :lol: - so, rock on! :D

[ontheEdgeof17]

There is only one song of Stevie's that I think is entirely about a lost baby and it isn't Sara. :nod:

Hrmmmm....

Does it end an album and a tour?

[ontheEdgeof17]

She also said it was "pretty much about Mick" in the VH-1 fan interview :shrug: Here we go again :laugh:


"When you build your house...then call me...home" is SO Don. As is "He was singing...". I sure the heck hope that Mick didn't sing.

[Kelly]

She also said it was "pretty much about Mick" in the VH-1 fan interview :shrug: Here we go again :laugh:

I am not going anywhere again..cause Mick is part of Fleetwood mac. Do I need to get the quote by Stevie where she ALSO says its about "all of us in FM?? :p

[Kelly]

Hrmmmm....

Does it end an album and a tour?


shhhhhhhhhh. We can't bring it up or we will hear about Rhiannon myths and babies in towers, etc. :lol:

[Kelly]

For Strand.


Sara [is my most personal song] It's about myself, and what all of us in Fleetwood Mac were going through at the time. The true version of that song is 16 minutes long. It's a saga with many verses people haven't heard.
~Stevie Nicks, Us magazine, July 1990

So, Mick is still a member of FM right? But, according to Stevie..that is not all that Sara is about. Plus, does Mick sing while undoing her laces? :lol: Lets hope the hell not.

[strandinthewind]

For Strand.


Sara [is my most personal song] It's about myself, and what all of us in Fleetwood Mac were going through at the time. The true version of that song is 16 minutes long. It's a saga with many verses people haven't heard.
~Stevie Nicks, Us magazine, July 1990

So, Mick is still a member of FM right? But, according to Stevie..that is not all that Sara is about. Plus, does Mick sing while undoing her laces? :lol: Lets hope the hell not.

I think the undoing the laces, the singing, and the building of a house are all about Don. In fact, she mentioned that Don did build his house and she was standing right in the middle of it or something like that. But, I think the dark wing in the Storm is Mick - I think she thought Mick would be some kind of solace after LB and Henley; she was wrong and that is what i think she is talking about - her running to Mick after all of that and the end of that to her despair. And the titular figure is the girl Mick married - right? So, Mick is in there somnewhere just as she said.

[ontheEdgeof17]

For Strand.


Sara [is my most personal song] It's about myself, and what all of us in Fleetwood Mac were going through at the time. The true version of that song is 16 minutes long. It's a saga with many verses people haven't heard.
~Stevie Nicks, Us magazine, July 1990

So, Mick is still a member of FM right? But, according to Stevie..that is not all that Sara is about. Plus, does Mick sing while undoing her laces? :lol: Lets hope the hell not.


I would really love to hear this 16 minute version. I'm sure the "Cleaning Lady" version is fairly close to this one, but it would be interesting to see what verses were left out.....they tend to be the best verses, too.

[strandinthewind]

I would really love to hear this 16 minute version. I'm sure the "Cleaning Lady" version is fairly close to this one, but it would be interesting to see what verses were left out.....they tend to be the best verses, too.


I know - look at Bombay Saph. and FFG. Oh well, I guess we never will. Interestingly, she could have used them in another song as she is prone to do and we would never know :eek:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I know - look at Bombay Saph. and FFG. Oh well, I guess we never will. Interestingly, she could have used them in another song as she is prone to do and we would never know :eek:


My theory is that Gate and Garden contains the missings Sara lyrics. For one, the beat and piano parts are very similar. Also, there is no demo in circulation for this song, one of the very very few that hasn't surfaced...because...it's a apart of the 16 minute Sara.

:cool:

[GateandGarden]

No but if you play play Rhiannon backwards she says, "Mick is dead...miss him miss him miss him..." Oh wait. ....wrong band :p

Man - I REALLY need a nap :]:laugh::laugh::lol::lol: I love that.

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.

I've never really believed it was about an aborted baby, and, as Kelly said, Stevie has contradicted that, anyway.

Also, I would love to hear the 16 minute version, which I'm sure would be Josh's nightmare song. But, as Curtis said, she leaves out the best verses, and "Bombay Sapphires" is a great example of that. I prefer the demo to the album version very much.

I think that's all I wanted to say.

[GateandGarden]

My theory is that Gate and Garden contains the missings Sara lyrics. For one, the beat and piano parts are very similar. Also, there is no demo in circulation for this song, one of the very very few that hasn't surfaced...because...it's a apart of the 16 minute Sara.

:cool::eek::shocked::eek::shocked: You might be on to something! Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Why didn't you tell me sooner? Am I not one of your hags? :confused: Two of my fave Stevie songs might really be the same song!

[ontheEdgeof17]

:eek::shocked::eek::shocked: You might be on to something! Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Why didn't you tell me sooner? Am I not one of your hags? :confused: Two of my fave Stevie songs might really be the same song!



Well, I just unearthed a tape I made back in the day ('98 prolly) at my parent's house. I put Sara and Gate and Garden back-to-back. I was like "Wow...these songs are very similiar." Then the whole 16 minute discussion arose. I could be very off base, but it's just a thought I had. :o

[GateandGarden]

Well, I just unearthed a tape I made back in the day ('98 prolly) at my parent's house. I put Sara and Gate and Garden back-to-back. I was like "Wow...these songs are very similiar." Then the whole 16 minute discussion arose. I could be very off base, but it's just a thought I had. :oIt makes sense to me. I have to wonder why there has never been a "Gate and Garden" demo. That might explain it. :shrug:

[SapphireSister]

Question - when did Stevie and Don first hook up and what year was it? After she and Mick broke it off right? I thought Sara was written before her and Don were together. I guess I'm wrong.

[ontheEdgeof17]

It makes sense to me. I have to wonder why there has never been a "Gate and Garden" demo. That might explain it. :shrug:



The first few lines up until "And the guardian" were written for the song, but I think the rest was snatched from somewhere else...The key change at that point goes from new to Sara, IMO. ;)

[GateandGarden]

The first few lines up until "And the guardian" were written for the song, but I think the rest was snatched from somewhere else...The key change at that point goes from new to Sara, IMO. ;)How do you know which lines were written for that song and which ones were possibly "Sara"? But when I think about it, it does make total sense. I'm just asking because I'm wondering if you got info somewhere else.

[catinthedark]

No but if you play play Rhiannon backwards she says, "Mick is dead...miss him miss him miss him..." Oh wait. ....wrong band :p

Man - I REALLY need a nap :]

I really, REALLY need a smiley spittin' water all over the computer screen.

That? Was hilarious.

As Strand said:

"I think the undoing the laces, the singing, and the building of a house are all about Don. In fact, she mentioned that Don did build his house and she was standing right in the middle of it or something like that. But, I think the dark wing in the Storm is Mick -"

This is also what I think Sara is about.. Definitely I hear "Said Sara..." And I'm not at all convinced the Sara in this song is the so-called baby that Don says she named Sara. My friend (the lucky dog) got to interview FM when they stopped in Montreal on the TITN tour, and it was he who asked her "Who is Sara?" to which she answered the famous quote "My alter ego." I remember him talking about her answer - he was ticked that she gave such an "airy fairy" type answer. :laugh: Anyway, I think Sara in this song IS her alter ego. There may well have been a baby lost and named Sara, but I don't think it is she in this song. JMO.

[Kelly]

I think the undoing the laces, the singing, and the building of a house are all about Don. In fact, she mentioned that Don did build his house and she was standing right in the middle of it or something like that. But, I think the dark wing in the Storm is Mick - I think she thought Mick would be some kind of solace after LB and Henley; she was wrong and that is what i think she is talking about - her running to Mick after all of that and the end of that to her despair. And the titular figure is the girl Mick married - right? So, Mick is in there somnewhere just as she said.

I agree, Mick is in there.

[Kelly]

Stevie's affair with Don was way earlier than anyone thinks before Mick. I think the WA tour..early 76. I think her and LB were back and forth after Don as he always says 77 for their breakup. Plus they said they were together up in Sausalito. She was with Mick on the Rumours tour, 77. Paul Fishkin was before Mick too.
I would loooveee to know more about what happened between her and Dylan in Australia. David? :lol:

[krrrby]

I'm not sure if I am correct on this one, but I thought I heard her say (or read) in some interview that if she ever wanted a child, she would have named it Sara. Or was it Rhiannon? :shrug:

I just listened to the song, and I guess I could sort of see where that could be taken as "Dead" Sara - referring to the aborition...that would be way creepy if so, but if you listen in the tours and everything it's "Said" so I dont think she would have said that. To me that would make the song sound kind of dark in a way. :shrug:

The theory someone mentioned about Sable and Blonde being a part of the 16-min song, that very well could be true...the only demo I've heard on it was just a rought outtake during the wild heart era

I say go with your instincts on this one...maybe in the "someday" book Stevie has been writing we might get to know the truth after all :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

shhhhhhhhhh. We can't bring it up or we will hear about Rhiannon myths and babies in towers, etc. :lol:I once suggested (though perhaps I wasn't the first one) that "Goodbye Baby" does sound like it could fit into the "Rhiannon" theme... taking her to the tower and taking away her child, as punishment for loving the mortal man, etc., etc.

Guess I shouldn't have ever brought it up, huh? :p

Even if the initial inspiration for "Goodbye Baby" was a work of fiction, though, I believe Stevie picks the stories she chooses, for a reason... 'Rappacinni's Daughter,' 'Beauty And The Beast,' etc.... because she sees parallels between her own life and those stories.

[ontheEdgeof17]

How do you know which lines were written for that song and which ones were possibly "Sara"? But when I think about it, it does make total sense. I'm just asking because I'm wondering if you got info somewhere else.



Just the change of the lyrics and the flow of the song. Just like the new verses for POTU that were added for TISL.....it fits the song well, but then again it doesn't. Ya know?

[ka10]

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.


Hehehe, it could just be my ears hearing it wrong! ;) I'm also the same person that swears Lindsey (or someone else?) mutters the "F" word, then makes an aggravated-sounding exhale right before the opening beats of "The Chain"... of course, I only can "hear" that when I listen to it through my headphones, though. :laugh:

~Kat

[ontheEdgeof17]

I'm also the same person that swears Lindsey (or someone else?) mutters the "F" word, then makes an aggravated-sounding exhale right before the opening beats of "The Chain"... of course, I only can "hear" that when I listen to it through my headphones, though. :laugh:



That one is true. :wavey:

[blinker12]

I have a friend, a very casual FM fan, who thought Stevie was singing "DEAD Sara" in that song. She doesn't even know about the whole abortion thing.
I can see how someone could hear that -- but I'd be shocked :shocked: if Stevie wrote anything that overt and, well, tacky. ;)

[strandinthewind]

I once suggested (though perhaps I wasn't the first one) that "Goodbye Baby" does sound like it could fit into the "Rhiannon" theme... taking her to the tower and taking away her child, as punishment for loving the mortal man, etc., etc.

Guess I shouldn't have ever brought it up, huh? :p

Even if the initial inspiration for "Goodbye Baby" was a work of fiction, though, I believe Stevie picks the stories she chooses, for a reason... 'Rappacinni's Daughter,' 'Beauty And The Beast,' etc.... because she sees parallels between her own life and those stories.


I think it totally is about the Rhiannon myth. It may have fit her life, but it is about the myth. I think she later changed it for SYW to mean LB though.

[glitter_fades]

That one is true. :wavey:

:nod: :nod:

[Kelly]

I once suggested (though perhaps I wasn't the first one) that "Goodbye Baby" does sound like it could fit into the "Rhiannon" theme... taking her to the tower and taking away her child, as punishment for loving the mortal man, etc., etc.

Guess I shouldn't have ever brought it up, huh? :p

Even if the initial inspiration for "Goodbye Baby" was a work of fiction, though, I believe Stevie picks the stories she chooses, for a reason... 'Rappacinni's Daughter,' 'Beauty And The Beast,' etc.... because she sees parallels between her own life and those stories.



Ummm, actually it is a joke between me and Jason from the BN board that I was referring to in my post you quoted.

[Kelly]

That one is true. :wavey:


OMG..that is the most sexiest, droolworthy LB moment for me!

Do I need therapy?

[tynan88]

I'm not sure if I am correct on this one, but I thought I heard her say (or read) in some interview that if she ever wanted a child, she would have named it Sara. Or was it Rhiannon? :shrug:

I just listened to the song, and I guess I could sort of see where that could be taken as "Dead" Sara - referring to the aborition...that would be way creepy if so, but if you listen in the tours and everything it's "Said" so I dont think she would have said that. To me that would make the song sound kind of dark in a way. :shrug:

The theory someone mentioned about Sable and Blonde being a part of the 16-min song, that very well could be true...the only demo I've heard on it was just a rought outtake during the wild heart era

I say go with your instincts on this one...maybe in the "someday" book Stevie has been writing we might get to know the truth after all :nod:

What makes you think Sable on Blonde is part of it? I am just interested in how you came to these theories...you know we could always just ask Ginny :lol:

[GateandGarden]

The theory someone mentioned about Sable and Blonde being a part of the 16-min song, that very well could be true...the only demo I've heard on it was just a rought outtake during the wild heart eraWait, someone mentioned that? The only theory I caught was Curtis' that "Gate and Garden" is part of "Sara." I guess I need to go back and read the thread more.

[tynan88]

Wait, someone mentioned that? The only theory I caught was Curtis' that "Gate and Garden" is part of "Sara." I guess I need to go back and read the thread more.

Let me know when you find it because I couldn't either :laugh:

[GateandGarden]

Let me know when you find it because I couldn't either :laugh:I didn't see it. :shrug:

[tynan88]

I didn't see it. :shrug:

Maybe it was in reference to Gate and Garden but krrrby just got it mixed up?

[GateandGarden]

Maybe it was in reference to Gate and Garden but krrrby just got it mixed up?I guess so. And a lot of people have said that they think those two songs are really similar.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I guess so. And a lot of people have said that they think those two songs are really similar.


What? SOB and G&G?

[GateandGarden]

What? SOB and G&G?Well, maybe not "a lot" of people. I was probably exaggerating about that, but I do remember some discussion from eons ago (which could have been two months ago, the way my mind works) in which some people said they were similar. I think this was coming from people who didn't really like either one.

[SapphireSister]

Well, maybe not "a lot" of people. I was probably exaggerating about that, but I do remember some discussion from eons ago (which could have been two months ago, the way my mind works) in which some people said they were similar. I think this was coming from people who didn't really like either one.


I'm one of those people who doesn't really like either of these songs although the lyrics are beautiful and I love the message in Sable.

[Johnny Stew]

Ummm, actually it is a joke between me and Jason from the BN board that I was referring to in my post you quoted.I can't keep up with all of these "in-jokes" from other boards! :o :laugh:

I talked about the "Goodbye Baby"/Rhiannon-myth stuff here, so I wasn't sure if you were commenting on that discussion, or what.

For the record, I wasn't offended either way. That was meant to be a playful use of the :p emoticon.

[dissention]

:laugh::laugh::lol::lol: I love that.

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.

I've never really believed it was about an aborted baby, and, as Kelly said, Stevie has contradicted that, anyway.

Also, I would love to hear the 16 minute version, which I'm sure would be Josh's nightmare song. But, as Curtis said, she leaves out the best verses, and "Bombay Sapphires" is a great example of that. I prefer the demo to the album version very much.

I think that's all I wanted to say.

There's nothing worse than listening to her pound on the piano like a child for two or three minutes, let alone 16 of them. That's one demo I would never listen to. I still curse the day that I listened to her Gypsy piano demo. Christ.

I like the alternate version of Bombay Sapphires much, much more than the album version because it's less cold and a lot warmer; vocally and musically. But I'm glad that extra verse, "I still dream" crud was edited out. It's pretty bad.

[dissention]

I just saw this thread. Some friends, one of whom is a casual fan have an ongoing joke about 'dead Sara'. I noticed it myself and I can't hear it as anything else however this friend enjoys screaming out "dead sara!". I was afraid to mention for my general fear of Stevie fans and their never predictable reactions.

In a non-FM related example, I like to sing out "God is a c*nt" during John Lennon's song God. I can only hear the first line of the song as such.

How morbid. I never cared for Sara on the record one bit, but I really liked it live. However, the whole "dead baby" business gives the song a very morbid and creepy feel to it that I simply do not enjoy and it's ruined any enjoyment I got out of it. Some things are better left unsaid, especially that kind of morbid shit.

[GateandGarden]

In a non-FM related example, I like to sing out "God is a c*nt" during John Lennon's song God. I can only hear the first line of the song as such.:laugh::lol: That's great.

But I'm glad that extra verse, "I still dream" crud was edited out. It's pretty bad.That's my favorite part. :p

[dissention]

That's my favorite part. :p

Hillary! Come into the light!

[dissention]

Hang on, are you advocating censorship? There's nothing I enjoy more than morbid shit, particularly with subtle humour.

No, I just don't give a rat's ass about the baby she supposedly aborted because it's not my business and listening to a song that may be about said aborted baby is not my cup of tea. It isn't that great of a song to begin with, but that extra element just kills it for me these days. And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for shit these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.

[Dreammms]

And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for shit these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.


Well as long as you weren't one of those people who used COME for their pee break. :distress:

[Johnny Stew]

No, I just don't give a rat's ass about the baby she supposedly aborted because it's not my business and listening to a song that may be about said aborted baby is not my cup of tea. It isn't that great of a song to begin with, but that extra element just kills it for me these days. And even if it weren't about the baby, she can't sing it for shit these days, anyway. When I saw them perform it last summer, I wished that I had to go to the bathroom. But I didn't have to, unfortunately. That whole Mansfield show stunk, Lindsey was the only saving grace.Wow, your good mood lasted all of three seconds. ;) :laugh:

[dissention]

Wow, your good mood lasted all of three seconds. ;) :laugh:

Phone Guinness.

[dissention]

Well as long as you weren't one of those people who used COME for their pee break. :distress:

Of course not. It's insufferable on the album, but it kicks ass live. Me leaving to piss during a Buckingham song would be like the Pope eating ribeye on Friday's during lent.

[dissention]

Now I'm confused again. Everyone can like or dislike elements due to tastes but why are you seemingly aggressive about the fact that she's supposed to be singing about her baby. Why is that wrong or worthy of anger?

Because I find it morbid and depressing. It's not "wrong," it just isn't my taste. You can listen to songs like that all you want, but I simply don't have a taste for them. Listening to that song and thinking of an aborted fetus is creepy to me and unpleasant.

[amber]

Because I find it morbid and depressing. It's not "wrong," it just isn't my taste. You can listen to songs like that all you want, but I simply don't have a taste for them. Listening to that song and thinking of an aborted fetus is creepy to me and unpleasant.
Yes. I will therefore not think of it if/when I hear that song again. The whole idea of it anyway was pretty ludicrous to me, therefore easily forgettable.

[dissention]

I guess I find that odd but to each their own. I don't find Tears in Heaven creepy (dull perhaps) and it's about a child falling to their death, and that's a non-gruesome, respectful way of putting it. But it's not really, it's about love and if Sara is about her baby then I think it's a song about love, not dead babies. Any darker song could be creepy I suppose. I'm listening to John Lennon's Julia which is another song about lost love (in the form of his mother) but if you want to see it as a song about a woman being squished by a driver then it is kind of creepy. As I said, to each their own, I just found it odd.

Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted shit. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.

[amber]

Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted shit. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.
Really? You've heard that theory before? Geez. I, like you, don't really think too much about things like that. But that idea just seems so...preposterous to me...I didn't realize it was a commonly held theory..

[lagringader&r]

I agree that the idea of it being about an aborted child kind of turned me off too. When I first became a Stevie fan, Sara was one of my favorite songs because it sounded so sweet and mellow and I thought she was singing it about one of her friends named Sara. I thought she was telling her friend to call her to come over when she was finished building her house :laugh: I knew absolutely nothing about Stevie then, but I knew I loved her voice and this song. When I found out that it might be about an aborted baby, it made me listen to it in a different way. I still love it but it has a different feel for me now. It's more of a depressing feel than a happy-go-lucky one. So the whole mood of it just changed. Stevie or not, to think about aborted babies is like thinking about puppies drowning. :shocked: :sorry:

But I do still love the song..

[amber]

When I found out that it might be about an aborted baby, it made me listen to it in a different way. ..
Wait, what do you mean "found out" it might be about that? Is there any credible evidence to suggest that? It still seems waaaay to out there to me, even as far as Stevie theories go... :confused:

[GateandGarden]

Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted shit. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.I do the same thing. I don't think I'd enjoy "That Made Me Stronger" if I sat down and thought about what she's singing about. And I don't care what "Sara" is really about at this point. I attribute my own meaning to it and that's what matters to me. I don't tune out the interpretations but I refuse to think of them while listening to the song. I won't let anything ruin "Sara" for me. There's just too much for me to love about it.

[GateandGarden]

Really? You've heard that theory before? Geez. I, like you, don't really think too much about things like that. But that idea just seems so...preposterous to me...I didn't realize it was a commonly held theory..I've been hearing about it as long as I've been a fan (only two years, basically). It has always seemed far-fetched to me.

[Johnny Stew]

Wait, what do you mean "found out" it might be about that? Is there any credible evidence to suggest that? It still seems waaaay to out there to me, even as far as Stevie theories go... :confused:Don Henley told GQ many a year ago, that, "to the best of (his) knowledge," Stevie wrote the song "Sara" in tribute to the aborted child she was carrying -- fathered by him.

Stevie has said that it was written about all of the things the members of Fleetwood Mac were going through at that time, with Mick having directly inspired the "he was just like a great dark wing" line.

[amber]

Don Henley told GQ many a year ago, that, "to the best of (his) knowledge," Stevie wrote the song "Sara" in tribute to the aborted child she was carrying -- fathered by him.

Oh. Well, it still seems lame. I don't really believe Don.

[Johnny Stew]

Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings....Actually, it's not "impossible."
And with the obvious disdain you have for present-day Stevie, and her "doe-eyed woman-child schtick," I should think it'd be easy to avoid reading or listening to her interviews.

But we all know you simply can't resist anything Stevie-related... just like the rest of us. :laugh: :xoxo:

[Johnny Stew]

Oh. Well, it still seems lame. I don't really believe Don.If an abortion has anything to do with that song, I'm sure it's only one small part of it.

And, truly, it shouldn't get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of the song. It really doesn't matter what an artist says their lyrics mean -- for us, as the listeners, it only matters what we bring to the song.

For me, "Sara" will always bring me back to a time in my life, about 15 years ago. It was a bittersweet time, to be sure, but the song still evokes memories that bring a smile to my face. :)

[amber]

If an abortion has anything to do with that song, I'm sure it's one small part of it.

And, truly, it shouldn't get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of the song. It really doesn't matter what an artist says their lyrics mean -- for us, as the listeners, it only matters what we bring to the song.

For me, "Sara" will always bring me back to a time in my life, about 15 years ago. It was a bittersweet time, to be sure, but the song still evokes memories that bring a smile to my face. :)
Yeah. It won't get in the way of my "enjoyment". That just seems really lame for Don to have said that, anyways. And also self absorbed. :rolleyes:
Glad it (the song, not Don's lamosity) brings a smile to your (handsome) face. :)

[Kelly]

I can't keep up with all of these "in-jokes" from other boards! :o :laugh:

I talked about the "Goodbye Baby"/Rhiannon-myth stuff here, so I wasn't sure if you were commenting on that discussion, or what.

For the record, I wasn't offended either way. That was meant to be a playful use of the :p emoticon.

Yup, Jason "loves" to discuss the Tower/Rhiannon connection he sees too! I never knew you had posted about that JS but I see why you guys think that way. I, personally, don't think that is what the song is about but it could make sense.

[Kelly]

Don's one isolated comment about what he thinks Sara is about really shouldn't ruin the song for anyone. (although I do see how it could) I really do not see how many of the lyrics could be about an aborted kid anyway. If anything, perhaps the song is about Stevie and what was going on in her life when this supposed abortion happened. I really do not think the song is "about" this one event.
When Stevie was asked on the Fix what songs were the most emotional to sing on the SYW tour, she replied "Beautiful Child, Say Goodbye and Goodbye Baby"...if Sara was all about her lost child, I would think it would be difficult to sing.


BTW...why oh why Jason would GB be so emotional for Stevie to sing if it was only part of the Rhiannon myth? There is much deeper meaning to the song than the myth, imho.

[strandinthewind]

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BTW...why oh why Jason would GB be so emotional for Stevie to sing if it was only part of the Rhiannon myth? There is much deeper meaning to the song than the myth, imho.


Well, who knows. But, I think she wrote it as part of that series of songs. She sort of sees herself as a Rhiannon esq figure - so maybe the answer is in that. I think a theme runs through all of these songs that are based on fiction. I think she reads the stories and they intrigue her into writing a song and then she sees herself, in her romantic way, as the protagonist. Also, she became emotional singing the SYW version, which is different than the demos we have. So, maybe the newer, changed meaning has a more significant effect on her :shrug: