If I Were You

[JazmenFlowers]

I just listened to this song for the first time in a while and remembered how much I love it. It's so simple and I think Stevie's vocal on it is great. I do notice a few vocal gymnastics here and there. It's just a sweet song and makes me want to be in love.

Any other IIWY fans?

[dissention]

One of the few songs on Rock A Little that I really like. Good song, great vocal.

[StevieNicksEO17]

I cannot even explain how much I love this song. I could put it on repeat for hours and hours and never get sick of it. I wish she did it live! :thumbsup:

[SuzeQuze]

:thumbsup: Love it. :nod: I'll have to give it a whirl when I get home.

[GypsySorcerer]

One of the few songs on Rock A Little that I really like. Good song, great vocal.

Exactly what I was going to type.

[LiquidBlue5000]

I cannot even explain how much I love this song. I could put it on repeat for hours and hours and never get sick of it. I wish she did it live! :thumbsup:

I can actually picture her doing it live with her "new" voice.. i don't think it would sound bad at all.. :woohoo:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.

[StevieNicksEO17]

I can actually picture her doing it live with her "new" voice.. i don't think it would sound bad at all.. :woohoo:

I agree! Oh man, we could only wish...

[Rickypt]

Big If I Were You fan here. I haven't listened to Rock A Little in ages, but after talking about No Spoken Word last week and now this thread, I feel like telling my boss I have a headache so I can run home and have a listen.

[petep9000]

Oh! I'm surrounded by Rock A Little-a-holics lately! It's raining RAL!!!! Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
Now, as for 'If I Were You', what could possibly beat that unbelievable bridge? "Well I believe that love is a living thing, born into our destinies, from a single moment of Inspiritation...and as It grows...it Changes our lives forever" all sung with the classic RAL growling vibrato, chock full of "wells!" and fully deserving of our worship.

I agree! Oh man, we could only wish...

[nickslover2071]

this song is my favorite off RAL...love it

[SuzeQuze]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.

RAL was a slow burn for me. I did not like it when I got it. But being a dyed-in-the-wool fan liking this album was a requirement for membership, right? :lol: Well, I used to walk a lot (well I still do) so I put it in my discman and listened to it on my walks for a week and then I liked it. It's like I forced myself to like it. :laugh: Not really, but I figured if I listened it might grow on me, which it did. But some parts of that record show Stevie's voice and style in a not so flattering light IMO. Like, cringe worthily. :sorry: *ducks*

I agree, I think this would be a good live song for Stevie to do right now. It has a good tempo and I think would translate well to the stage.

[ontheEdgeof17]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.

Separated at birth, we were. <33333


"Wellllllllllllll....I believe that love is a living thing....." <---favorite part

[wondergirl9847]

this song is my favorite off RAL...love it

I don't love very many songs on RAL, but that's my favorite and it's on my iTunes playlist and it played today.

[SapphireSister]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.

We all know Lindsay (me) is a huge RAL fan but I can't say that IIWY is one of my favorites, although I do like it. I do however LOVE Some Become Strangers so it's so great to hear that someone else loves that song (even though she didn't write it). You have superb taste Garden State Girlie ;) Any other Stranger fans out there? Oh how I LOVE that song! It's also very personal and became a theme song through a break up a couple of years ago. To me the song is about being so close to someone and being in love and how suddenly you wake up one day and realize you are strangers. This is what it means to me anyway. And how about La Nicks attitude when she says "I don't really need this in my life. Why don't we forget about it" That's HOT.

[Sorcerer386]

I love If I Were You. I don't want to go into a debate again about how the last part of the song goes, but that's my favorite part. As it fades I keep turning the volume up higher and higher to hear it better. And strangely, I just saw that Stevie wrote it, or co-wrote it anyway. I didn't think she wrote this song...lyrically it's not very Stevie-ish except MAYBE the bridge, and DEFINITELY the end part. Anyway, definitely one of the high points of RAL, which in all honesty really does have a few low points (yes, I still cannot stand the title track).

[ontheEdgeof17]

I love If I Were You. I don't want to go into a debate again about how the last part of the song goes, but that's my favorite part. As it fades I keep turning the volume up higher and higher to hear it better. And strangely, I just saw that Stevie wrote it, or co-wrote it anyway. I didn't think she wrote this song...lyrically it's not very Stevie-ish except MAYBE the bridge, and DEFINITELY the end part. Anyway, definitely one of the high points of RAL, which in all honesty really does have a few low points (yes, I still cannot stand the title track).


In the Jim Ladd (dun dun dunnnnnnnn) Interview for RAL she said she wrote the "Well, I believe that love..." bridge part. But it's a Ladd interview so take it with a grain of salt. :p

[GODDESS6]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.
my sentiments exactly~

[JazmenFlowers]

This is what it means to me anyway. And how about La Nicks attitude when she says "I don't really need this in my life. Why don't we forget about it" That's HOT.


I agree. This is another one of my fav RAL tunes. I also love the part "ooh, baby no, you're no stranger". Dat's da hotness, right thur.

[JazmenFlowers]

I love If I Were You. I don't want to go into a debate again about how the last part of the song goes, but that's my favorite part. As it fades I keep turning the volume up higher and higher to hear it better. And strangely, I just saw that Stevie wrote it, or co-wrote it anyway. I didn't think she wrote this song...lyrically it's not very Stevie-ish except MAYBE the bridge, and DEFINITELY the end part. Anyway, definitely one of the high points of RAL, which in all honesty really does have a few low points (yes, I still cannot stand the title track).


there are parts of RAL that I'm not wild about too. however, I love rock a little...I guess it's the frailty in her voice. have you heard the at home demo where she talks about writing the song...I think the demo made me love the song even more.

[SapphireSister]

I agree. This is another one of my fav RAL tunes. I also love the part "ooh, baby no, you're no stranger". Dat's da hotness, right thur.

I REALLY like you! ;)

there are parts of RAL that I'm not wild about too. however, I love rock a little...I guess it's the frailty in her voice. have you heard the at home demo where she talks about writing the song...I think the demo made me love the song even more.

Thank God, I finally have a little RAL (the song) support. This has always been a favorite of mine and what I love about it most is that it's almost an R & B song and has so much soul to it and it's quite different than a lot of her other material. It's also sooo sexy, the music and the lyrics ;) I also have a cd of The RAL writing process and how this song was inspired by the sound the waves crashing outside of her house at the beach made her house "Rock a little". She really wanted Mick's help on this one. And yes her voice is my favorite, Stevie frail voice. She sounds so wispy and vulnerable and I love the really low notes on "Say it was just like me"...And how about when she says really softly at the end "That is how songs are written Stories are told, rumours are started" I mean that is a classic Stevie line right there! I could go on and on but the point is I think RAL the song is a highlight of the album and I was shocked to hear that a lot of fans don't like this song :(

[lagringader&r]

I can actually picture her doing it live with her "new" voice.. i don't think it would sound bad at all.. :woohoo:

One of these days, one of these days.. I pray to the non-commercial gods! :laugh:

I adore IIWY :xoxo:

[Rickypt]

I hated RAL the song for years. One reason was that after Bella Donna and Wild Heart, I had an expectation of what a Stevie song named after the album would be. It's hard to describe, but Bella Donna and Wild Heart are sort of these dramatic epics that open the album (TISL being a return to that, which is why I love it sooooo much :xoxo: )

Then came Rock A Little, and the title song didn't even kick off the album, and on top of that, it was this sound I had never heard from Stevie and with quivering vocals. I remember thinking at the time, what on earth has happened to this woman's voice.

Anyway, I stopped listening to Stevie for several years not too long after RAL, mainly because of her lifeless performances during the OSOTM tour and FM Tango tour and my horror at Sometimes It's A Bitch. In fact, I missed the Street Angel era altogether.

I'm rambling, but the point is that the Enchanted box set gave me an opportunity to listen to a lot of Stevie's work with different ears and perspective, having taken several years "off". And I wound up loving RAL the song based on that experience.

That was a very long way to say I used to hate RAL and now I love it. :D

[SapphireSister]

I'm rambling, but the point is that the Enchanted box set gave me an opportunity to listen to a lot of Stevie's work with different ears and perspective, having taken several years "off". And I wound up loving RAL the song based on that experience.
That was a very long way to say I used to hate RAL and now I love it. :D

Ah ha you finally came around and saw the RAL light! We're going to be great friends ;) I loved your ramble by the way.

[CreepingDeath]

I love the entire RAL album but Some Become Strangers and If I Were You are two of my favorites :nod: Looooove it.

I completely agree- almost. I would have to put No Spoken Word as my fav, and then Some Become Strangers and If I Were You.

[SeattleMark]

I LOVE the extended version of RAL, the demo of I Sing but If I were you & Some Become Strangers are my absolute fav's on the cd. I really like the soulful undertones, reminds me of Sable On Blonde.

If I Were You would be great live with an orchestra.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

While RAL has never been one of my favorite albums, I do happen to love this particular song...I agree the simplicity of it is what makes it kind of catchy. I think it would have been a great single. I think it's great.

Chris

[petep9000]

You go Gurl. I'm in RAL heaven, it's my fave period, album, tour, 'look', 'sound' etc. You name the Stevie subject, I can spin it to Rock a Little!
Now, you mention the title track...I love how her voice quavers on the first "it's about time Lily...." Even though I'm a guy I find myself sort of imitating that quavering effect too if I sing along to it (when no one else is listening of course, like when I'm driving alone).
I'm originally from Long Island, New York, and believe me in 1985 RAL was HOT there and all over the airwaves and Stevie was the undisputed Queen of rock, with Pat Benatar and Joan Jett as contenders. Just her hair alone was, as we say on Long Island, "Forgetaboutit"! My sisters class of '86 year book is full of nothing but Stevie hair. Even on some of the guys!

I REALLY like you! ;)



Thank God, I finally have a little RAL (the song) support. This has always been a favorite of mine and what I love about it most is that it's almost an R & B song and has so much soul to it and it's quite different than a lot of her other material. It's also sooo sexy, the music and the lyrics ;) I also have a cd of The RAL writing process and how this song was inspired by the sound the waves crashing outside of her house at the beach made her house "Rock a little". She really wanted Mick's help on this one. And yes her voice is my favorite, Stevie frail voice. She sounds so wispy and vulnerable and I love the really low notes on "Say it was just like me"...And how about when she says really softly at the end "That is how songs are written Stories are told, rumours are started" I mean that is a classic Stevie line right there! I could go on and on but the point is I think RAL the song is a highlight of the album and I was shocked to hear that a lot of fans don't like this song :(

[svnwndrs]

Originally Posted by petep9000
You go Gurl. I'm in RAL heaven, it's my fave period, album, tour, 'look', 'sound' etc. You name the Stevie subject, I can spin it to Rock a Little!
My sisters class of '86 year book is full of nothing but Stevie hair. Even on some of the guys!


HELL YEAH! :nod: That makes me proud to be even born in 1986! LOL. Seriously though, RAL is my favorite of Stevie's albums. I really love all the songs, but actually "If I Were You" seems to be one of the weaker tracks to me. I love the title track, and yes it is very sexy. "Talk To Me" and "I Can't Wait" were two of the coolest singles that ever hit the airwaves in '86. "Sister Honey" is just downright funky (although I like the stripped down demo version a little better), "Imperial Hotel" and "No Spoken Word" are some of her best rock songs with some memorable lyrics as well. I used to not like "Some Become Strangers" and it took a few years ( :shocked: ) to grow on me, but it is almost just as funky as "Sister Honey". From what I heard on all the RAL bootlegs I've heard, Stevie rocked HARD on that tour in '86, which makes it by far my favorite of all her tours. Just my 2 cents. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Love It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GardenStateGirlie]

RAL was a slow burn for me. I did not like it when I got it. But being a dyed-in-the-wool fan liking this album was a requirement for membership, right? :lol: Well, I used to walk a lot (well I still do) so I put it in my discman and listened to it on my walks for a week and then I liked it. It's like I forced myself to like it. :laugh: Not really, but I figured if I listened it might grow on me, which it did. But some parts of that record show Stevie's voice and style in a not so flattering light IMO. Like, cringe worthily. :sorry: *ducks*

I agree, I think this would be a good live song for Stevie to do right now. It has a good tempo and I think would translate well to the stage.

The only song it took a little while to grow on me was The Nightmare. You go from that awesome first line and then it's like, meh. But now I really do enjoy the song (except the backing vocals at the end of the song...yikes). I think as a whole, it's a really good album :nod:

I would loooove if she busted out some If I Were You (or Some Become Strangers).

[GardenStateGirlie]

Separated at birth, we were. <33333


"Wellllllllllllll....I believe that love is a living thing....." <---favorite part

<33333

"WOOOAHOOOOHOOOOOHOOO" I love her howls :nod:

It's just a really great song...great lyrics...great music....catchy...nice beat, etc. I heart you, If I Were You.

[GardenStateGirlie]

And how about La Nicks attitude when she says "I don't really need this in my life. Why don't we forget about it" That's HOT.

Amen, girl :thumbsup: I LOVE that line :nod:

[Hawkeye]

I don't really care for this song :sorry:

[Dreammms]

I don't really care for this song :sorry:

either do i :shocked:

[Sorcerer386]

there are parts of RAL that I'm not wild about too. however, I love rock a little...I guess it's the frailty in her voice. have you heard the at home demo where she talks about writing the song...I think the demo made me love the song even more.

No, I haven't heard the demo...I'm not really that big into demoes though. I've tried, I just cannot get into this song. :shrug:

[krrrby]

For all the demos and concerts I have of Stevie, I'm a bigger fan of the RAL era - she was just crazy and the music was crazy and it was just all...crazy! But it's like wow, Stevie can really rock out (even though she was the snorting machine).

My least favorite songs on RAL are "Imperial Hotel" and "No Spoken Word." And the reason why I put No Spoken Word is because I'm not a huge fan of the album version; rather like the tour version better (i.e. red rocks)

My top three faves are Sister Honey, If I Were You, and a tie between Rock a Little and Some Become Strangers. Someone has to like Sister Honey, cmon! I think it's a real fun song and it's catchy. I wish she would have used that song for the RAL tour. She could have done a little fun dance with the bass thumping part. :blob1:

But I do agree, If I Were You is a very good song, and fun to sing along to.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Someone has to like Sister Honey, cmon! I think it's a real fun song and it's catchy.

There are a few of us that do:

-me
-amber
-jason
-hillary
Edit: and Kimberly

(gawd. look at that list of folk. scary)

[CreepingDeath]

There are a few of us that do:

-me
-amber
-jason
-hillary

(gawd. look at that list of folk. scary)

I love it too, dear. :nod:

[golden braid]

Another fan here of "If I Were You." I actually like a lot of the songs on RAL. Even though they are 80's sounding and a little cheesy, I love the energy of most of the songs. I feel like I can really crank up the volume and rock out!

[strandinthewind]

I am feeeeelin all the LOVE baby!!!!!! :laugh:

May I just say I also LOVE "Imperial Hotel" which could mark the last time she sang with wild abandon :cool:

[Johnny Stew]

There are a few of us that do:

-me
-amber
-jason
-hillary
Edit: and Kimberly

(gawd. look at that list of folk. scary)Please add me to that list, too, Curtie. :xoxo:

BIG 'Rock A Little' fan here... the album that kicked my love for Stevie into high-gear. Loved her raspy, damaged voice... loved the ultra-personal lyrics that I could somehow still relate to... loved the music... loved the weirdness... loved it, loved it, loved it!

By the way, I always thought "If I Were You" should have been a single. It's SO catchy, and such a great vocal from Stevie.
Love the lyrics, too.

"Every boy must learn to be a man... well, maybe I can help you -- yes, I can!"

[strandinthewind]

. . . .

"Every boy must learn to be a man... well, maybe I can help you -- yes, I can!"


Ya just HAD to get that in didn't ya :laugh: :wavey: :laugh: :wavey:

[Dreammms]

There are a few of us that do:

-me
-amber
-jason
-hillary
Edit: and Kimberly

(gawd. look at that list of folk. scary)

I love it too, dear. :nod:


So do I! I also like Imperial Hotel :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

Ya just HAD to get that in didn't ya:laugh:
Well, I lived that line, so it's a favorite. :nod:

(For the record, that "boy" was of legal age! :p )

[strandinthewind]

:laugh:
Well, I lived that line, so it's a favorite. :nod:

(For the record, that "boy" was of legal age! :p )


I am calling the authorities :p :p :p :p

BTW - of course Curtis is/was of age :wavey: :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

I am calling the authorities :pAs long as they're eighteen, you're in the clear, bro! ;) :laugh:

BTW - of course Curtis is/was of age :wavey: :wavey::laugh:

I wasn't referring to Curtis. Curtie wasn't ready for my jelly. :laugh: (As if.)

[David]

Any other IIWY fans?All this talk of If I Were You & I just had to run to my piano & start playing & singing.

After about 45 minutes of playing it, I switched to Gate & Garden.

[desertangel]

Another one here who's a big fan of IIWY.

Such a fan, in fact, one night I got pulled over by security in my daughter's apt. complex for blasting it too loud in the car. :lol: :lol:

I LOVE IT!!!

Laura

[JazmenFlowers]

I REALLY like you! ;)

LOL...I'm so honored. ;)

Thank God, I finally have a little RAL (the song) support. This has always been a favorite of mine and what I love about it most is that it's almost an R & B song and has so much soul to it and it's quite different than a lot of her other material. It's also sooo sexy, the music and the lyrics ;) I also have a cd of The RAL writing process and how this song was inspired by the sound the waves crashing outside of her house at the beach made her house "Rock a little". She really wanted Mick's help on this one. And yes her voice is my favorite, Stevie frail voice. She sounds so wispy and vulnerable and I love the really low notes on "Say it was just like me"...And how about when she says really softly at the end "That is how songs are written Stories are told, rumours are started" I mean that is a classic Stevie line right there! I could go on and on but the point is I think RAL the song is a highlight of the album and I was shocked to hear that a lot of fans don't like this song :(

I couldn't agree more...I need to find that CD. I just have the one song demo.

[JazmenFlowers]

All this talk of If I Were You & I just had to run to my piano & start playing & singing.

After about 45 minutes of playing it, I switched to Gate & Garden.


that sounds like me...I love Gate and Garden too, but I haven't been able to really grasp the "do I love you" parts on the piano just yet...but I absolutely adore that song too!

[David]

that sounds like me...I love Gate and Garden too, but I haven't been able to really grasp the "do I love you" parts on the piano just yet...but I absolutely adore that song too!Just play the exact pattern you play for "Sara" (the "and he was just like/a great dark wing" part) -- it's the same thing, only in a different key.
If you come to the fan convention, I'll show you. It will be fun.

[Highwayman]

:thumbsup: BIG RAL FAN HERE! Put me down for Sister Honey, Imperial Hotel, IIWY, ISFTT, and RAL the song.

That album is just such a time piece. Fits perfectly with that era of music.

I would love to see La Nicks do these songs live:
SH
IH
IIWY
ISFTT
FB (from TOSOTM)
She could knock those out in about 20 minutes. Quantity and quality all rolled into one... :lol:

[JazmenFlowers]

Just play the exact pattern you play for "Sara" (the "and he was just like/a great dark wing" part) -- it's the same thing, only in a different key.
If you come to the fan convention, I'll show you. It will be fun.

fan convention? mother did not know about this? deets please...:)

[David]

fan convention? mother did not know about this? deets please...:)It hasn't been planned yet. I hope somebody here picks up the ball & runs with it. We NEED another fan convention.

Jason, how about you? You'd be a great Fan Convention Planner!! All those in favor of Jason planning the next fan convention, say AYE.

[SapphireSister]

I am soooo excited today for all this RAL love. I know a lot of people don't like this period but it's my favorite. I guess I'm really just a rocker chick at heart and without a doubt this was Stevie's "rock out" period. I feel bad that it coincides with her being strung out on drugs but at the same time it's the period in her career when she took the most chances (intentionally or not) and let lose and to me that makes her human. Sure, some things turned out to be not so pretty (the sometimes disastrous vocals, falling, erratic behavior, etc) but so what she's human and makes mistakes just like the rest of us. I guess in a way I can also relate to her more at this time with the craziness and outrageousness and high energy (if you knew me in person you would see this in me). Not only that but I love the hair, the outfits, and the whole energy of the album. It just fits me personally. The only song I do not like on the album is Imperial Hotel. I did not like Sister Honey at first but it has grown on me in a major way. I LOVE LOVE LOVE I Can't Wait, The Nightmare, Some Become Strangers, and Rock A Little. If I were you, I sing for things, HAEWAFY, Talk to Me, and No Spoken Word are all great songs.
Ok there is my little RAL ramble. Shit we need to start a RAL fan club.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I am soooo excited today for all this RAL love. I know a lot of people don't like this period but it's my favorite. I guess I'm really just a rocker chick at heart and without a doubt this was Stevie's "rock out" period.


While I do like RAL I wouldnt say it's her ROCK OUT PERIOD.. I would say that is Bella Donna...she was totally on fire then. It's weird cuz I think she did her RAL songs good on tour, but her classics seriously lacked--like the horrendous "Edge of 17" on Tour....

HAEWAFY was great on the RAL Tour, as well as "Talk to Me," "No Spoken Word" etc

Interesting time for her no doubt

Chris

[GardenStateGirlie]

There are a few of us that do:

-me
-amber
-jason
-hillary
Edit: and Kimberly

(gawd. look at that list of folk. scary)

Moi aussi :nod: It's a good tune.

[xxxmx]

IIWY wouldn't be my pick for best song on the album, but it is a good ol' 80s rocker.

here's my deal with RAL:

I Can't Wait: this song took a while to catch on, actually i hated it. now it's on my official 'cleaning my apartment and kicking much ass' mix.
RAL: if i never hear this song again, i'll be fine. i'm a hater :distress:
Sister Honey: ALRIGHT BAB-AY! love it to the MAXX. fave song on RAL.
ISFTT: lyrics are great, song is kind of sucking.
Imperial Hotel: i love this song so much, i almost booked Imperial over Flamingo in vegas. tied with ICW for second fave song.
Strangers: "i don't really need this in my life" saves this song for me.
TTM: umm, me and matt mock this song. "face.to.face.and.cheek.to.cheek."
Nightmare: this song kills this album for me. title track lifts the knife, this song plunges it into my soul.
IIWY: love it, love the bridge esp.
No Spoken Word: dirrty dirrty song... fabulous.
HAEWAFY: great last song, induces waterworks on an off day.

[catinthedark]

I love Rock a Little - It's the solo album I can pretty much listen to endlessly from start to finish. I've always loooved the title track - it brings me back 18 years when I first bought the album. I used to sit in the dark with my walkman on listening to it. I love the line.. "Where does she live? He says, oh, up there... somewhere..." Brilliant.

Even love Imperial Hotel, Some Become Strangers ("part of me used to love you, part of me still does..." and, YES! "I don't really need this in my life - why don't we forget about it?" and I don't even skip Sister Honey. :laugh:

The rest of the songs I just adore. I think I'll be pulling out this album today in honour of this thread! Thanks for the suggestion!

[strandinthewind]

It hasn't been planned yet. I hope somebody here picks up the ball & runs with it. We NEED another fan convention.

Jason, how about you? You'd be a great Fan Convention Planner!! All those in favor of Jason planning the next fan convention, say AYE.


Lord - it will be at some Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons on the beach. Actually, this one - http://www.fourseasons.com/hualalai/index.html - looks good to me!!!!!! :cool:

Of course - there is always Vegas :eek:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I wasn't referring to Curtis. Curtie wasn't ready for my jelly. :laugh: (As if.)


Talk to the hand, cuz tha face aint working. :head jerk: Pffff

[seeker007nmss]

Nightmare: this song kills this album for me. title track lifts the knife, this song plunges it into my soul.



That just cracked me up for some reason. :laugh: :shocked: :D

[David]

I would say that is Bella Donna...she was totally on fire then.What do you mean by "on fire," Chris? To me, that's a funny way of describing the care & consistency she applied to her craft in the hopes of building an audience for her solo career.
It's weird cuz I think she did her RAL songs good on tour, but her classics seriously lacked--like the horrendous "Edge of 17" on Tour....Why was "Edge" horrendous on tour in 1986? Did you get to see a show in person?

I haven't enjoyed "Edge" live since. Ever.

[David]

Sure, some things turned out to be not so pretty (the sometimes disastrous vocals, falling, erratic behavior, etc)When did she fall? I mean which show specifically? Did anyone here see it? She didn't fall when I saw her.

I've never heard anyone say he/she saw Stevie fall in 1986, except for a troll or two on Usenet many years ago, & I suspect just concocting a florid fantasy there.

[Hippocampus]

"If I Were You" could have been a great song but the triteness of the chorus lyrics kills it for me. :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

When did she fall? I mean which show specifically? Did anyone here see it? She didn't fall when I saw her.

I've never heard anyone say he/she saw Stevie fall in 1986, except for a troll or two on Usenet many years ago, & I suspect just concocting a florid fantasy there.


I think she fell off of the stage at an Australian show. I think Mick staid that in his book, which take that for what it is worth. I cannot remember now, but did she ever fess up to it. She said she fell in like 93 into a fireplace at a party because of the Klonopin and who the hell knows what else - but I seem to remember she talked about before then as well. But, again, I cannot remember for sure. Anyone else?

[macfanken]

It hasn't been planned yet. I hope somebody here picks up the ball & runs with it. We NEED another fan convention.

Jason, how about you? You'd be a great Fan Convention Planner!! All those in favor of Jason planning the next fan convention, say AYE.


Bwaahahahahah!! :laugh: I think YOU should plan the convention, David. I'd LOVE to see what you'd come up with. I'll be there, as long as it's in a tsunami-free zone. Maybe somewhere in the midwest.

[Highwayman]

No Spoken Word: dirrty dirrty song... fabulous.

:shocked: Dirty? This is a take-a-hike song to me. :confused: I thought it was about her marriage and divorce to Anderson. I read it like he was a holy roller and she tells him to shove it. Maybe the sex was good "just for one night", but "that disastrous sound" can't be good.

[David]

Bwaahahahahah!! :laugh: I think YOU should plan the convention, David. I'd LOVE to see what you'd come up with. I'll be there, as long as it's in a tsunami-free zone. Maybe somewhere in the midwest.It should be a tsunami-free zone. I'd probably stick the group at some Holiday Inn somewhere . . . I'm thinking Kansas City in March or Seattle in October.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Lord - it will be at some Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons on the beach. Actually, this one - http://www.fourseasons.com/hualalai/index.html - looks good to me!!!!!! :cool:

Of course - there is always Vegas :eek:

Are you paying? Cause then i'm totally there :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Bwaahahahahah!! :laugh: I think YOU should plan the convention, David. I'd LOVE to see what you'd come up with. I'll be there, as long as it's in a tsunami-free zone. Maybe somewhere in the midwest.


Well, Seattle is WAY cool as well. We could rent out the ols buried Seattle and have it down there :laugh: But, New Orleans would also way hella cool and I am from around there :eek:

[ontheEdgeof17]

:shocked: Dirty? This is a take-a-hike song to me. :confused: I thought it was about her marriage and divorce to Anderson. I read it like he was a holy roller and she tells him to shove it. Maybe the sex was good "just for one night", but "that disastrous sound" can't be good.



Sounds to me that the "sound" was the telephone call by Lindsey when her and Ken were doing the dirty-dirty. ;)

[Rickypt]

I remember Stevie's 1986 live version of "Edge" at the Shoreline Amphitheater quite well. During her walk along the front of the stage, she somehow got it in her head that the crowd was rushing and people were being hurt. When in fact no such thing was happening.

She kept screaming "get back!" and waving her hands. After a couple of those attempts, she abruptly stopped the song, scolded us, and stomped off the stage.

After about 10 minutes, she came back with her hair all wet and said that she was sorry she got mad, but didn't want to see us get hurt. Which was very thoughtful of her, but it was all in her imagination.

I've since read that something similar happened during the Wild Heart Tour.

[SapphireSister]

Does anybody have any Rock a Little shows on video (besides Red Rocks) that wants to trade? Please message me if you do. Thanks :)

Also, who is the guy dueting with Stevie on L&L during the RAL tour? He has the most beautiful voice I think I've ever heard!! I was listening to the Dallas show from 86 this morning. Poor thing messes up and misses so many lines and is rambling on and on in between songs but I only wish I could decipher what she is saying. I love all the howling and yelling. Her voice is SO distinct and raw I go crazy I love it so much! The crowd seems to go the most crazy over I Can't Wait. I wish she would do it now but it wouldn't be the same anyway. My only wish is that I could go back in time to see one of these RAL shows :( Anybody go to the shows that wants to share their story?

[Rickypt]

My only wish is that I could go back in time to see one of these RAL shows. Anybody go to the shows that wants to share their story?

I just posted one story right before this post. To be honest, Stevie scared me at this show. She was coked out of her mind, shouting gibberish during many of the songs, starting with Outside The Rain, shook her body around in weird ways, and then the screaming at the audience during Edge of Seventeen.

But I was still basically a kid and because I wasn't very aware of the effects of hard drugs, I didn't know what was going on.

I will take the 2005 Vegas Stevie over that experience any day.

[SapphireSister]

I just posted one story right before this post. To be honest, Stevie scared me at this show. She was coked out of her mind, shouting gibberish during many of the songs, starting with Outside The Rain, shook her body around in weird ways, and then the screaming at the audience during Edge of Seventeen.

But I was still basically a kid and because I wasn't very aware of the effects of hard drugs, I didn't know what was going on.

I will take the 2005 Vegas Stevie over that experience any day.

Yes I read your story, thanks :) In retrospect maybe it's better that I didn't see her in that state. I have a feeling as a child it would have scared me as well and possibly even tarnished my image of her. It's better that I feel in love with her later I suppose...
P.S. did you get the song?

[strandinthewind]

I remember Stevie's 1986 live version of "Edge" at the Shoreline Amphitheater quite well. During her walk along the front of the stage, she somehow got it in her head that the crowd was rushing and people were being hurt. When in fact no such thing was happening.

She kept screaming "get back!" and waving her hands. After a couple of those attempts, she abruptly stopped the song, scolded us, and stomped off the stage.

After about 10 minutes, she came back with her hair all wet and said that she was sorry she got mad, but didn't want to see us get hurt. Which was very thoughtful of her, but it was all in her imagination.

I've since read that something similar happened during the Wild Heart Tour.


She did to me DIRECTLY at the Baton Rouge RAL show. Sadly, it was in vain, because the crowd pushed me to the ground. Oh Well, I was like 19 so who cared :laugh: That show was incredible though. She was ON FIRE and it was pretty apparent she was high, but she was still good and missed a few things, but not that many. We had passes for a meet and greet, but she never showed :mad:

[SapphireSister]

She did to me DIRECTLY at the Baton Rouge RAL show. Sadly, it was in vain, because the crowd pushed me to the ground. Oh Well, I was like 19 so who cared :laugh: That show was incredible though. She was ON FIRE and it was pretty apparent she was high, but she was still good and missed a few things, but not that many. We had passes for a meet and greet, but she never showed :mad:

Oooh tell me more details of the show please and what she was like! Wait she yelled at you directly? (sorry you got pushed :()

[Rickypt]

Yes I read your story, thanks :) In retrospect maybe it's better that I didn't see her in that state. I have a feeling as a child it would have scared me as well and possibly even tarnished my image of her. It's better that I feel in love with her later I suppose...
P.S. did you get the song?

Yes, I did get the song, and have emailed you back. Thanks again! :thumbsup:

I don't regret seeing Stevie in any of her states because I feel like I've witnessed a great life and career with all its ups and downs. Although I admittedly gave up on her from about 1990 to 1996 other than buying Street Angel and playing it only once.

[strandinthewind]

Oooh tell me more details of the show please and what she was like! Wait she yelled at you directly? (sorry you got pushed :()


My friend and I rushed the stage - we where close anyway. We were standing there and people were literally trying to climb over me as I am very tall. I was holding her hand and started to fall. She saw it and sort of turned her hand to try and help me but that was futile because she would have fallen. So, I just sort of let go and fell. Interestingly, her ring almost came off in my hand - which would have horrfying :eek: I got up and everything was okay as the security was really controlling the crowd after that. It all happened in like two seconds but she was cool about it I think because I was - not that we discussed it or anything :laugh: I just sort of winked at her or something like that. Now that I think about it, this was over 19 years ago :eek: so I am sure some of the details are lost :laugh:

[SapphireSister]

Yes, I did get the song, and have emailed you back. Thanks again! :thumbsup:

I don't regret seeing Stevie in any of her states because I feel like I've witnessed a great life and career with all its ups and downs. Although I admittedly gave up on her from about 1990 to 1996 other than buying Street Angel and playing it only once.

Gave up? :distress: Wait why did you give up on her again? And if you have not listened to Street Angel more than once you are really missing out on some great, great music. I don't care what anyone says. You really need to give it a listen. Will you?

[Rickypt]

I think I rambled yesterday about giving up on Stevie for a number of years. First there was her shockingly lifeless performances during OSOTM Tour and the Tango Tour where she seemed like just a shell of the woman and artist I had obsessed about during my childhood.

Then came Timespace and I absolutely hated --and continue to hate, sorry--the "new" songs. In particular, I detested Desert Angel. At the time I was fiercely against the Gulf War and being young and idealistic (in fact, just not very bright), I made everything an "us" vs. "them" thing, and even though Stevie was just trying to support the troops, I got all political about it.

Street Angel--I just didn't give it a chance. And while I doubt I will change my mind much on the album (and yes, I plan to give it another try soon), I regret missing her on tour that year based on the comments I've read recently.

Basically that whole time period was my snotty early 20's, when I gave up on baseball because it was too commercial and meaningless, dumped friends because I thought they were shallow, etc. Thought I was cool because I was an "activist". A period that I don't look back on fondly, but it was what it was.

But in March, 1997, I read on Nicksfix that Stevie was going to play some songs at a Don Henley benefit concert in Phoenix and the kid in me took over and drove down to hear her sing 4 songs. And the rest is history; I fell in love with her all over again.

[strandinthewind]

I think I rambled yesterday about giving up on Stevie for a number of years. First there was her shockingly lifeless performances during OSOTM Tour and the Tango Tour where she seemed like just a shell of the woman and artist I had obsessed about during my childhood.

Then came Timespace and I absolutely hated --and continue to hate, sorry--the "new" songs. In particular, I detested Desert Angel. At the time I was fiercely against the Gulf War and being young and idealistic (in fact, just not very bright), I made everything an "us" vs. "them" thing, and even though Stevie was just trying to support the troops, I got all political about it.

Street Angel--I just didn't give it a chance. And while I doubt I will change my mind much on the album (and yes, I plan to give it another try soon), I regret missing her on tour that year based on the comments I've read recently.

Basically that whole time period was my snotty early 20's, when I gave up on baseball because it was too commercial and meaningless, dumped friends because I thought they were shallow, etc. Thought I was cool because I was an "activist". A period that I don't look back on fondly, but it was what it was.

But in March, 1997, I read on Nicksfix that Stevie was going to play some songs at a Don Henley benefit concert in Phoenix and the kid in me took over and drove down to hear her sing 4 songs. And the rest is history; I fell in love with her all over again.


Lord you had a bad case as a youngin' :laugh:

[SapphireSister]

But in March, 1997, I read on Nicksfix that Stevie was going to play some songs at a Don Henley benefit concert in Phoenix and the kid in me took over and drove down to hear her sing 4 songs. And the rest is history; I fell in love with her all over again.

Awww I got the chills when I read that last part ;)
I could never imagine "giving up" on an artist that I love as much as Stevie but I understand if you were young and had your reasons. She would have to do something a lot more devistating than what you mentioned to get rid of this fan. All that matters is that you love her again and listen to that Street Angel album today!

[Rickypt]

Lord you had a bad case as a youngin' :laugh:

Really, huh, sometimes I think I should've just discovered drugs like everyone else and at least had a good time. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Really, huh, sometimes I think I should've just discovered drugs like everyone else and at least had a good time. :wavey:


I did and did. Though - in hindsight and for any youngin's a readin' this - stay away from drugs!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

I was not really politically active. I did however campain for Bush I against Dukkais - I mean that helmut in that tank OY :laugh: I have changed though - lest you be worried. I am more Liberitarian now.

[Rickypt]

Well, I campaigned for Jesse Jackson against Dukakis, so you can sort of see the road I was heading down. :shocked:

[strandinthewind]

Well, I campaigned for Jesse Jackson against Dukakis . . . :shocked:

Oh Lord Child - - Bless Your Heart :laugh:

[macfanken]

Well, Seattle is WAY cool as well. We could rent out the ols buried Seattle and have it down there :laugh: But, New Orleans would also way hella cool and I am from around there :eek:

You mean underground Seattle? That WOULD be a cool place for a party. I don't go down there though... I have a fear of being underground, in the oldest part of the city during an earthquake. :shocked: Never been to New Orleans... I need to get down there sometime.

[strandinthewind]

You mean underground Seattle? That WOULD be a cool place for a party. I don't go down there though... I have a fear of being underground, in the oldest part of the city during an earthquake. :shocked: Never been to New Orleans... I need to get down there sometime.


that's the one - it is way cool, but that whole claustrophobic thing could be a downer - oh well, we'll have the street torn up in parts to make skylights :laugh:

[AliP]

My favorite song on RAL is "Imperial Hotel." I can't believe more people don't like this song! Does anyone if this song was written for/about Benmont Tench?? I thought I read that somewhere, but can't remember exactly.

I have never been a fan of "The Nightmare" but have just recently developed a fondness for it. The music is total crap, but the lyrics are amazing, imo. She has a knack for writing songs that relate well to people's lives, but everything about the lyrics in "The Nightmare" is so true, imo. My favorite lyric is " That was when the dream took her prisoner, And she knew the dream was over, But the nightmare was not over, Still some call that a dream"

Pure brilliance, if you ask me. :D

Does anyone have any suggestions about who the "him" is in the lyric, "she wants him to fight, anytime, anywhere. She wants him to stand up, she wants him to win?"

[strandinthewind]

That is about LB, of course. I mean he was in many ways her biggest nightmare :laugh: :shrug: :eek:

[SapphireSister]

I'm asking again to see if anyone knows who is singing with Stevie on Leather and Lace during the RAL tour? He has the voice of an angel and I want to know who he is. Help thanks :)

[Johnny Stew]

I'm asking again to see if anyone knows who is singing with Stevie on Leather and Lace during the RAL tour? He has the voice of an angel and I want to know who he is. Help thanks :)Unless my memory fails me, it was Robert Martin. He was Stevie's keyboards & horns man for a couple tours.

He was also married to Cybil Shepherd for a while, but they're divorced now.

[SapphireSister]

Unless my memory fails me, it was Robert Martin. He was Stevie's keyboards & horns man for a couple tours.

He was also married to Cybil Shepherd for a while, but they're divorced now.

Thank you SO much. He has an amazing voice. He should be a vocalist with a voice like that. Beats the hell out of Waddy singing on SDMHA. That's just shamefull lol.

[krrrby]

Thank you SO much. He has an amazing voice. He should be a vocalist with a voice like that. Beats the hell out of Waddy singing on SDMHA. That's just shamefull lol.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Unless my memory fails me, it was Robert Martin. He was Stevie's keyboards & horns man for a couple tours.

He was also married to Cybil Shepherd for a while, but they're divorced now.


Stevie often said that he was the best singer in the band and she would jokingly say "he is even better than I am" :laugh: She also used to gush about his good looks (if I am thinking about the same person) - she used to say "Ladies, it is sooooooooooo hard to sing to him every night" :laugh:

[catinthedark]

I think I rambled yesterday about giving up on Stevie for a number of years. First there was her shockingly lifeless performances during OSOTM Tour and the Tango Tour where she seemed like just a shell of the woman and artist I had obsessed about during my childhood.

So funny how everyone is touched by her differently. The first I heard Stevie I was 11 - and Stop Dragging My Heart Around and Leather and Lace were big radio hits. And I do remember just adoring them both - really feeling something different about her voice. I loved it. But I had no idea who she was, or that she was from FM. And the next year or so, I heard Gypsy and adored that - but I was like 11 and 12. I didn't make a connection. It wasn't until FM came to my city (Montreal at the time) in '87 that I was like, Oh my God - this is the singer that I have loved, and Oh my God - I couldn't take my eyes off her. I don't think I even registered the others on the stage. I didn't even own TITN at the time - but when the show was announced, there was just something that compelled me to go (don't ask - I can't explain this. It's very bizarre. I even bought a ticket for my friend to come with me). And that was it - after that show, I bought every FM album, and every Stevie solo album, and spent the better part of the next 18 months searching for Buckingham-Nicks. I can still remember the feeling when, at a record collectibles show, after flipping through every single solitary box of albums.... I found a MINT copy. My heart stopped. I couldn't get home to play it fast enough. I closed my bedroom door, put it on, and I don't think I breathed until the final note ended.

The rest... is some pretty great history... :nod:

[Dark Angel]

Any other IIWY fans?

I love it! Of course, RAL is my third favorite album, behind WH and BD. I think the only song I don't really like on it, it Sister Honey. :ducks: My top three would be The Nightmare, No Spoken Word, and I Sing For The Things.

[TheBlueLamp]

I love If I Were You and the whole album.

It has one of my favourite verses ever:

I know what you're dreaming when you sleep
You have secrets I will always keep
And in every morning when we rise
I see my reflection in your eyes

The last two lines never fail to make me burst into a cheesy grin when she sings them. :D

I think the only out of place song is HAEWAFY

Nick

[Lorraine]

I just listened to this song for the first time in a while and remembered how much I love it. It's so simple and I think Stevie's vocal on it is great. I do notice a few vocal gymnastics here and there. It's just a sweet song and makes me want to be in love.

Any other IIWY fans?


I agree with you, an absolutely fabulous song, her voice, the lyrics everything in this song is so STEVIE, it really does rock.


Lorraine :)

[krrrby]

Also, add me to the list of people who love "Sister Honey," all right baby, baby all right? :D

Rock on!
From the looks of it, I think we have a Sister Honey Clan going on :lol: