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HenleyFan
04-21-2005, 12:07 PM
Members of the Eagles are currently having a disagreement about the band's new album. Henley has been publically venting his frustration and today told a Florida newspaper the following:

"Henley has a tour in the works this summer with Stevie Nicks, which he says he would put on the shelf for the Eagles.

"I'll probably end up doing that tour, but if I thought the Eagles could be productive in the studio, I'd probably cancel that tour. But I haven't been given the indication that there will be anything more than golf for some of the other band members."

Now, if Glenn comes around it's possible Don could cancel the tour. Like him, though, we don't see that happening. Just thought y'all would want to know.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

trackaghost
04-21-2005, 12:16 PM
Woah, sounds like Don is pretty pissed off. Have they recorded anything yet for the new album?
I wonder if his words will spur the others into action?

Rickypt
04-21-2005, 12:17 PM
Wow, what a peach! Throwing the Eagle's dirty laundry (no pun intended) into the media and then signaling that he's willing to negotiate away a commitment he has made.

Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour.

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Members of the Eagles are currently having a disagreement about the band's new album. Henley has been publically venting his frustration and today told a Florida newspaper the following:

"Henley has a tour in the works this summer with Stevie Nicks, which he says he would put on the shelf for the Eagles.

"I'll probably end up doing that tour, but if I thought the Eagles could be productive in the studio, I'd probably cancel that tour. But I haven't been given the indication that there will be anything more than golf for some of the other band members."

Now, if Glenn comes around it's possible Don could cancel the tour. Like him, though, we don't see that happening. Just thought y'all would want to know.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Thanks for the update. I think this tour is rather a bunch of BS. Very disorganized...seems as though Stevie and her people have nothing to do with it and that it's in the hands of someone else. I'd dare say the same for Don as well. If Don can just cast this off, i'm sure Stevie could as well. I wonder how this idea was presented to them?

sparky
04-21-2005, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the update. I think this tour is rather a bunch of BS. Very disorganized...seems as though Stevie and her people have nothing to do with it and that it's in the hands of someone else. I'd dare say the same for Don as well. If Don can just cast this off, i'm sure Stevie could as well. I wonder how this idea was presented to them?

This is hysterical. Way to go Don ! Issue press statements about personal disputes, THAT'LL encourage healthy and productive communication.
Don Henley and Glenn Frey just officially stole the 70's rock star drama queen crowns away from Lindsey and Stevie ! :lol:

amber
04-21-2005, 12:50 PM
I just think it's really lame and unprofessional to cancel when tickets/dates have already been announced. :mad:

GateandGarden
04-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Wow, what a peach! Throwing the Eagle's dirty laundry (no pun intended) into the media and then signaling that he's willing to negotiate away a commitment he has made.

Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour.Those were my thoughts when I read it. :mad:

But, as always, thanks for the updates, y'all! :wavey:

Dreammms
04-21-2005, 01:25 PM
I just think it's really lame and unprofessional to cancel when tickets/dates have already been announced. :mad:

i agree amber. makes me dislike don even more.

xxxmx
04-21-2005, 01:34 PM
i know that i bitched about stevie touring with don, but now i've gotten used to the idea and the ticket prices have gotten less ridiculous... DON'T TAKE MY SUMMER TOUR AWAY! as if i needed one more reason to dislike don henley...

always one to find the silver lining (when it's convenient): she'd have studio time for a new album... and i wouldn't have to sit through don's part of the concert... and i could save up for the real stevie tour to follow that album...

GateandGarden
04-21-2005, 01:36 PM
i know that i bitched about stevie touring with don, but now i've gotten used to the idea and the ticket prices have gotten less ridiculous... DON'T TAKE MY SUMMER TOUR AWAY! as if i needed one more reason to dislike don henley...

always one to find the silver lining (when it's convenient): she'd have studio time for a new album... and i wouldn't have to sit through don's part of the concert... and i could save up for the real stevie tour to follow that album...Yes! Ditto to EVERYTHING you said! :nod::nod:

DrummerDeanna
04-21-2005, 01:40 PM
i know that i bitched about stevie touring with don, but now i've gotten used to the idea and the ticket prices have gotten less ridiculous... DON'T TAKE MY SUMMER TOUR AWAY! as if i needed one more reason to dislike don henley...

always one to find the silver lining (when it's convenient): she'd have studio time for a new album... and i wouldn't have to sit through don's part of the concert... and i could save up for the real stevie tour to follow that album...


:nod: And it would give me MORE time to save for an actual Stevie tour...

SuzeQuze
04-21-2005, 01:40 PM
i agree amber. makes me dislike don even more.

You'd think he would have learned something after all of his years of feuding. :distress:

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 01:42 PM
You'd think he would have learned something after all of his years of feuding. :distress:
and that his attituide might, just might mind you, have a little to do with it :rolleyes:

gldstwmn
04-21-2005, 01:43 PM
Wow, what a peach! Throwing the Eagle's dirty laundry (no pun intended) into the media and then signaling that he's willing to negotiate away a commitment he has made.

Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour.

Amen. :laugh:

xxxmx
04-21-2005, 01:45 PM
:nod: And it would give me MORE time to save for an actual Stevie tour...
ps - where do you live, i spent some time in canandaigua and my family lives in penn yan. i'm actually spending part of the summer up there... so if the tour isn't cancelled, wanna hit toronto? maybe the ferry will be up by then... :rolleyes:

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 01:50 PM
ughh...lol...here we are putting efforts and energy into actually ORGANIZING all the info for this tour...since neither singers' management seems to be doing that..and getting all the facts straight..and Mr. Henley says this stuff..

Chris

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 01:52 PM
Also to add I don't see much chance in this actually happening, considering the tour is now scheduled, booked, venue websites have info..tix go on sale sat..would be real bad idea for Mr. Henley to do...and hey if he does, maybe she will put Tom Petty on the bill with her instead?? (one can dream right?!?)

Chris

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 01:55 PM
...and hey if he does, maybe she will put Tom Petty on the bill with her instead?? (one can dream right?!?)

Now THAT would be MF'ing COOL as SHITE show. I would see several. I think Petty could get her up and dancing like she used to.

gldstwmn
04-21-2005, 01:57 PM
Also to add I don't see much chance in this actually happening, considering the tour is now scheduled, booked, venue websites have info..tix go on sale sat..would be real bad idea for Mr. Henley to do...and hey if he does, maybe she will put Tom Petty on the bill with her instead?? (one can dream right?!?)

Chris

That's the double bill that should be happening.

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 02:02 PM
That's the double bill that should be happening.


Don't get me wrong, I do like Don Henley's music..and The Eagles', and I'm excited for the tour...although I just think Tom and Stevie are more compatible, especially if they were to do a combined set. They have done more duets than Don and Stevie, and Stevie has always considered herself "one of the heartbreakers"

Chris

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 02:03 PM
Also is it possible that these comments by Henley were possibly made a couple of weeks ago, before the shows were actually booked and about to be on sale?

Chris

Vianna
04-21-2005, 02:13 PM
"Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour."

My thoughts exactly. I don't know why she has anything to do with him after how he spread her life story all over that VOX magazine...

JeannieKartis
04-21-2005, 03:48 PM
Wow, what a peach! Throwing the Eagle's dirty laundry (no pun intended) into the media and then signaling that he's willing to negotiate away a commitment he has made.

Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour.

I agree....now I know I've made the right decision not to go to any of the shows. I'm looking forward to seeing Stevie ALONE in vegas!

Serrart
04-21-2005, 04:10 PM
Members of the Eagles are currently having a disagreement about the band's new album. Henley has been publically venting his frustration and today told a Florida newspaper the following:

"Henley has a tour in the works this summer with Stevie Nicks, which he says he would put on the shelf for the Eagles.

"I'll probably end up doing that tour, but if I thought the Eagles could be productive in the studio, I'd probably cancel that tour. But I haven't been given the indication that there will be anything more than golf for some of the other band members."

Now, if Glenn comes around it's possible Don could cancel the tour. Like him, though, we don't see that happening. Just thought y'all would want to know.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Don Henley, a man to love :rolleyes: .

Romy

SuzeQuze
04-21-2005, 04:11 PM
Don't get me wrong, I do like Don Henley's music..and The Eagles', and I'm excited for the tour...although I just think Tom and Stevie are more compatible, especially if they were to do a combined set. They have done more duets than Don and Stevie, and Stevie has always considered herself "one of the heartbreakers"

Chris

I think I'd give a body part for a Tom/Stevie tour. :eek: That would seriously rock my world. :nod:

Kelly
04-21-2005, 04:22 PM
Well dates are already being cancelled and the presales are now off. I do not think he would say he could pull out..if he couldn't. Personally, Stevie's heart hasn't exactly seemed into this thing either. No offical word on her site, no mention on her various interviews..no press for it.
As far as touring alone..why didn't she just do that to begin with if she wanted to? :shrug:

TheMacAttack
04-21-2005, 04:51 PM
I agree....now I know I've made the right decision not to go to any of the shows. I'm looking forward to seeing Stevie ALONE in vegas!


Amen to that!!

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 05:07 PM
Well dates are already being cancelled and the presales are now off. I do not think he would say he could pull out..if he couldn't. Personally, Stevie's heart hasn't exactly seemed into this thing either. No offical word on her site, no mention on her various interviews..no press for it.
As far as touring alone..why didn't she just do that to begin with if she wanted to? :shrug:


In fact, she was very straight forward that it was not set and she could not give any details.

EnchantedSLN
04-21-2005, 05:27 PM
"Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour."

My thoughts exactly. I don't know why she has anything to do with him after how he spread her life story all over that VOX magazine...

Stevie spread her own life story all over VOX magazine. It was GQ that featured the comment from Don.

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 06:12 PM
What shows have been cancelled??

Chris

ShangriLaTroubl
04-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh I see already..Summerfest..ughh bastards

Chris

sparky
04-21-2005, 06:28 PM
NO SURPRISE.

What a disaster. Better than a tour that tanked. :nod:

WelshWitchPMD
04-21-2005, 06:48 PM
Wow what news to find out this evening. That would explain why there was no presale today as planned for Mansfield. I guess that the whole tour is scrapped.
I think Stevie needs to call in Lindsey and tour.

catinthedark
04-21-2005, 06:55 PM
Oh I see already..Summerfest..ughh bastards

Chris

Sadly, a few others, too. Check out Pollstar or Ticketmaster for the updates. Toronto is cancelled - I get that info from Ticketmaster. But I didn't check out the other listed dates. I was too depressed.

sparky
04-21-2005, 07:00 PM
Wow what news to find out this evening. That would explain why there was no presale today as planned for Mansfield. I guess that the whole tour is scrapped.
I think Stevie needs to call in Lindsey and tour.

What she needs to do is haul her keister into either the studio or the hip replacement wing at Cedars Sinai.

Kelly
04-21-2005, 07:09 PM
What she needs to do is haul her keister into either the studio or the hip replacement wing at Cedars Sinai.

Is her hip still a mess?

Oh and Pattie..I LOVE that idea. :blob1:

GateandGarden
04-21-2005, 07:13 PM
I think Stevie needs to call in Lindsey and tour.:thumbsup: :nod:

sparky
04-21-2005, 07:13 PM
Is her hip still a mess?

Oh and Pattie..I LOVE that idea. :blob1:

Once your hip is trashed it's trashed. I have a friend who is 88 and had both replaced in her 50's. She rows a mile a day and bikes 3. It's no big whoop.

Kelly
04-21-2005, 07:18 PM
Once your hip is trashed it's trashed. I have a friend who is 88 and had both replaced in her 50's. She rows a mile a day and bikes 3. It's no big whoop.

Oh wow. I hope I have half that much energy when I am in my eighties.
Hip pain sucks! I had a big problem with my hip after my last kid..from back labor and man that was painful. I wonder what happened to La Nick's hip in the first place. I know rumour was she fell but :shrug:

sparky
04-21-2005, 07:24 PM
Oh wow. I hope I have half that much energy when I am in my eighties.
Hip pain sucks! I had a big problem with my hip after my last kid..from back labor and man that was painful. I wonder what happened to La Nick's hip in the first place. I know rumour was she fell but :shrug:

Could be all those high kicks and no stretching - I won't speculate about other times she may have lifted her legs. :eek:

xxxmx
04-21-2005, 07:26 PM
Could be all those high kicks and no stretching - I won't speculate about other times she may have lifted her legs. :eek:
you stole the words right out of my dirty mouth :D ...

The Tower
04-21-2005, 07:33 PM
What she needs to do is haul her keister into either the studio or the hip replacement wing at Cedars Sinai.
:nod:

Um, yeah.... Hey Stevie- do Vegas and then do an album.

Here are eleven songs that'll do.

Space Needle
The Dealer
Sanctuary (write a bridge, please)
Julia
Baby Doll
If You Were My Love
Julia
Mistaken Love
She Loves Him Still
Watchdevil
Cathouse Blues

They're already written. Just re-record with some style and conviction, get HWWIII to take some photos and your golden.

xxxmx
04-21-2005, 07:39 PM
If You Were My Love
i prefer the quiet piano demo, the later versions are heinous (IMO)... maybe you should submit that to the nicksfix? throw in a few giddy compliments and you're in like flynn...

diamondsnake
04-21-2005, 07:59 PM
Oh wow. I hope I have half that much energy when I am in my eighties.
Hip pain sucks! I had a big problem with my hip after my last kid..from back labor and man that was painful. I wonder what happened to La Nick's hip in the first place. I know rumour was she fell but :shrug:
She fell down the stairs, or so I've heard.

This is pretty sad news that the whole tour may be canceled. I have a feeling Stevie will still be doing some solo dates later this year though.

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Could be all those high kicks and no stretching - I won't speculate about other times she may have lifted her legs. :eek:

I just totally snorted out loud :laugh:

GateandGarden
04-21-2005, 08:37 PM
:nod:

Um, yeah.... Hey Stevie- do Vegas and then do an album.

Here are eleven songs that'll do.

Space Needle
The Dealer
Sanctuary (write a bridge, please)
Julia
Baby Doll
If You Were My Love
Julia
Mistaken Love
She Loves Him Still
Watchdevil
Cathouse Blues

They're already written. Just re-record with some style and conviction, get HWWIII to take some photos and your golden.And "Belle Fleur". How 'bout that one instead of "She Loves Him Still"? I finally listened to that demo...and I listened to it once. And then I deleted it. :D And I guess "My Heart" will have to be put on there for Christopher, on the condition that she does something to make it not so anticlimatic!

GypsySorcerer
04-21-2005, 09:04 PM
:nod:

Um, yeah.... Hey Stevie- do Vegas and then do an album.

Here are eleven songs that'll do.

Space Needle
The Dealer
Sanctuary (write a bridge, please)
Julia
Baby Doll
If You Were My Love
Julia
Mistaken Love
She Loves Him Still
Watchdevil
Cathouse Blues

They're already written. Just re-record with some style and conviction, get HWWIII to take some photos and your golden.

Throw in China Doll, and it'd be perfect. :thumbsup:

LiquidBlue5000
04-21-2005, 09:14 PM
Throw in China Doll, and it'd be perfect. :thumbsup:

China Doll would be awesome.... although at this point vocally, she could never match the demo version :distress:

Dark Angel
04-21-2005, 10:26 PM
maybe she will put Tom Petty on the bill with her instead?? (one can dream right?!?)

I would definitely be there! :nod:

dissention
04-21-2005, 10:33 PM
Wow, what a peach! Throwing the Eagle's dirty laundry (no pun intended) into the media and then signaling that he's willing to negotiate away a commitment he has made.

Stevie, dump this clown and go on your own tour.

I always thought it to be quite ironic that the man who wrote Dirty Laundry did, in fact, air his dirty laundry by claiming Stevie aborted his child in a national publication. Talk about a hypocritical asshole.

dissention
04-21-2005, 10:36 PM
and hey if he does, maybe she will put Tom Petty on the bill with her instead?? (one can dream right?!?)

Keep dreaming. Petty would never fleece his fans like Stevie does. He's got too much integrity and respect for his fans to ever go on a moneymaking journey like that. I will say, however, that it would be awesome.

dissention
04-21-2005, 10:37 PM
I think I'd give a body part for a Tom/Stevie tour. :eek: That would seriously rock my world. :nod:

I'd give a part of my body for a Dylan/Petty/Nicks tour. I'd only French kiss Saddam for a Petty/Nicks tour.

dissention
04-21-2005, 10:40 PM
:nod:

Um, yeah.... Hey Stevie- do Vegas and then do an album.

Here are eleven songs that'll do.

Space Needle
The Dealer
Sanctuary (write a bridge, please)
Julia
Baby Doll
If You Were My Love
Julia
Mistaken Love
She Loves Him Still
Watchdevil
Cathouse Blues

They're already written. Just re-record with some style and conviction, get HWWIII to take some photos and your golden.

Eek. I wouldn't buy it. Maybe I'd buy it for Julia and Space Needle, but she can keep the rest locked away.

dissention
04-21-2005, 10:41 PM
And I guess "My Heart" will have to be put on there for Christopher, on the condition that she does something to make it not so anticlimatic!

And less Streisand-esque.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 10:48 PM
Eek. I wouldn't buy it. Maybe I'd buy it for Julia and Space Needle, but she can keep the rest locked away.

Bless your heart :xoxo:

kato
04-21-2005, 10:53 PM
Could be all those high kicks and no stretching - I won't speculate about other times she may have lifted her legs. :eek:
You guys ain't right.

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:06 PM
Bless your heart :xoxo:

Can you imagine how awful some of those songs would sound with her current voice? I'd be devastated. The sweet vocal on Julia is what makes the song, I couldn't bear hearing her sing it now. :(

Johnny Stew
04-21-2005, 11:12 PM
Can you imagine how awful some of those songs would sound with her current voice? I'd be devastated. The sweet vocal on Julia is what makes the song, I couldn't bear hearing her sing it now. :(I'd be VERY apprehensive to hear her sing "Julia" now... but then the contrast between the original and 'Dance' "Silver Springs" was pretty significant, too, and, yet, in many ways the latter outshone the original.
She also blew the 'Tusk' version of "Beautiful Child" out of the water with her 'SYW' tour performances... so it's definitely possible.

LiquidBlue5000
04-21-2005, 11:13 PM
Can you imagine how awful some of those songs would sound with her current voice? I'd be devastated. The sweet vocal on Julia is what makes the song, I couldn't bear hearing her sing it now. :(

lol.. you are brutally honest.. although i do have to agree with you.. she couldn't do any of those songs justice anymore... it makes you wonder which ones she might attempt to dig out of the vault for the next CD :confused:

Somajoseph
04-21-2005, 11:14 PM
Hopefully someday Stevie will date and maintain a relationship with a real man. Youre only as good as your word. Don Henley & Co are only out for the money, that's clear. To back out now, after committing, is
only showing Don for what he is.
Now Stevie & Tom Petty-that would be one to see.

Joseph

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:19 PM
I'd be VERY apprehensive to hear her sing "Julia" now... but then the contrast between the original and 'Dance' "Silver Springs" was pretty significant, too, and, yet, in many ways the latter outshone the original.

I hate the original Silver Springs, it's atrocious to these ears. That vocal makes me want to wrap a piano wire around my neck. The Dance version is a masterpiece.

She also blew the 'Tusk' version of "Beautiful Child" out of the water with her 'SYW' tour performances... so it's definitely possible.

Hell no. She did a damn fine job with that song, but it didn't touch the Tusk version. That childlike quality to her voice is what made the song so stunning and effective on Tusk. I loved it on the past tour, but it was nowhere nearly as good as the album cut.

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:22 PM
lol.. you are brutally honest..

I'm nothing if not that.

although i do have to agree with you.. she couldn't do any of those songs justice anymore... it makes you wonder which ones she might attempt to dig out of the vault for the next CD :confused:

Space Needle must be included, first and foremost. :D But get rid of the "tar people" line, it robs the song of all mystery and sounds atrocious.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 11:24 PM
I think the Smile at You vocal demonstrates she can still go high. Thus, I think Julia and other songs would be okay. Plus, she NAILED IMO GB with that soft voice that was a 180 from the almost angrily pleading, yearning, and beautiful piano demo. So, who knows. I do know this though. I was terrified before The Dance and she nailed that. I was terrified before the Enchanted tour because Sleeip Angel is so high - she nailed that. She nailed BC on the SYW tour. So, not liking to be wrong all of the time :laugh: I tend not to doubt her anymore though I get that her voice is older.

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 11:26 PM
That childlike quality to her voice is what made the song so stunning and effective on Tusk. I loved it on the past tour, but it was nowhere nearly as good as the album cut.

Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:28 PM
I think the Smile at You vocal demonstrates she can still go high.

But has to strain a helluva lot to get there. I love Smile At You, but she sounds like she's trying to have a BM at times.

Thus, I think Julia and other songs would be okay. Plus, she NAILED IMO GB with that soft voice that was a 180 from the almost angrily pleading, yearning, and beautiful piano demo. So, who knows.

Goodbye Baby? Kicks ass. So beautiful. But it doesn't require much effort vocally.

I do know this though. I was terrified before The Dance and she nailed that. I was terrified before the Enchanted tour because Sleeip Angel is so high - she nailed that. She nailed BC on the SYW tour. So, not liking to be wrong all of the time :laugh: I tend not to doubt her anymore though I get that her voice is older.

I doubt her. As I said before, she lost something in her voice five years ago. It's up to her to prove me wrong by kicking some ass.

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:30 PM
Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.

Eh, I think it worked for Landslide, but not so much that song, imo. What I really love about the studio cut is that she's singing "I'm not a child anymore," yet she sounds like one. A weak and vulnerable child despite all of her pleading to the contrary.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 11:31 PM
Yes, true enough about the childlike quality that endeared the song to me in the first place (Tusk version). However, it was almost a reflection of the past when she sang Beautiful Child on this tour. Her vocals were nothing short of outstanding and incredibly heartfelt, IMHO. To me, you can't compare the two because they were coming from very different places.


ITA - and the same for SS in The Dance and After the Glitter Fades and Sleeping Angel on The Enchanted tour. She was really good if not stunning on those - but she was not what she was when she cut them, which is unfair to suggest she could be :shrug: I also think some of the Enchanted's on the Enchanted tour were as close to reckless vocal abandon as she has come in a long time, save the GDW scream from The Dance, which gives me chills from the intensity to this day :eek:

sparky
04-21-2005, 11:35 PM
You guys ain't right.

I'll take that as a compliment of the highest order.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 11:36 PM
. . . Goodbye Baby? Kicks ass. So beautiful. But it doesn't require much effort vocally . . . .

I think it is the best thing on that record, which is saying a lot because LB's stuff is really really good. I also think it is one of the best things she has ever done. The vocal is easy but also subtle and she is not really known for being vocally subtle ( I AM NOT YOUR SIIISSSSTTERERRBBBRROOTTTHEHHRERERHRHWAYAYAYAAAYYYYHHHHHAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYA - panty revealing spin :eek: ) Interestingly, in concert, she sang it with so much more force but maintained the same quality. Anyhoo - my $0.02

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 11:37 PM
Eh, I think it worked for Landslide, but not so much that song, imo. What I really love about the studio cut is that she's singing "I'm not a child anymore," yet she sounds like one. A weak and vulnerable child despite all of her pleading to the contrary.

Yes, but what about this tour with her beautiful range on her I's transitioning into "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 11:40 PM
Yes, but what about this tour with her "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.


I know - I loved that and I also loved the IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEEEEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII do - wish that - you weeerrreee MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

That haunts me to this day.

I also loved the first time she literall glared at LB and belted DIRECTLY to him

STILL I AM A FOOL

foot stomping and all - sheeebus

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:40 PM
I think it is the best thing on that record, which is saying a lot because LB's stuff is really really good. I also think it is one of the best things she has ever done. The vocal is easy but also subtle and she is not really known for being vocally subtle ( I AM NOT YOUR SIIISSSSTTERERRBBBRROOTTTHEHHRERERHRHWAYAYAYAAAYYYYHHHHHAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYA - panty revealing spin :eek: )

Well, I think Say Goodbye is the best thing on the record, so we'll agree to disagree. :p

Interestingly, in concert, she sang it with so much more force but maintained the same quality. Anyhoo - my $0.02

She sounded a bit ragged by the time she got to that song. It was good, don't get me wrong, and it was a real highlight of the show, but sometimes it was too rough. My favorite part of Destiny Rules is when she's just sitting there with Lindsey and singing it. Makes me goosepimply.

strandinthewind
04-21-2005, 11:42 PM
Well, I think Say Goodbye is the best thing on the record, so we'll agree to disagree. :p

I might agree if I had never heard the concert version and then seen it - LORD CHILD the feelings were palpable.

She sounded a bit ragged by the time she got to that song. It was good, don't get me wrong, and it was a real highlight of the show, but sometimes it was too rough. My favorite part of Destiny Rules is when she's just sitting there with Lindsey and singing it. Makes me goosepimply.

Shipper :p :p :p

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:44 PM
Yes, but what about this tour with her beautiful range on her I's transitioning into "I do...love you...I still...need you...I wish...I wish that you were...mine..." I just thought it was beautiful. To me, that shows she is vulnerable and admitting, hey, yea, I'm strong but I'm also now willing to admit to myself that i'm weak as well but i'm finally OK with that and will allow myself the privlage of being mushy, needy, etc.

Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph. Thrown in for the sake of romantic melodrama, imo.

The quality of her voice and how she sings it is what makes the Tusk version so special to me. For me, she doesn't match it and she simply can't these days. It's like performing I'm So Afraid but without Lindsey on guitar. Doesn't make the current live versions bad, I think they're fab, they simply don't have as a big an effect on me because the key ingredient is missing.

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 11:52 PM
Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph. Thrown in for the sake of romantic melodrama, imo.

The quality of her voice and how she sings it is what makes the Tusk version so special to me. For me, she doesn't match it and she simply can't these days. It's like performing I'm So Afraid but without Lindsey on guitar. Doesn't make the current live versions bad, I think they're fab, they simply don't have as a big an effect on me because the key ingredient is missing.

Regardless of why she threw it in there, it was beautiful and watching her and hearing her sing it apparently struck a chord with Jason and I but missed your ass. Typical ;)

dissention
04-21-2005, 11:55 PM
Regardless of why she threw it in there, it was beautiful and watching her and hearing her sing it apparently struck a chord with Jason and I but missed your ass. Typical ;)

Heart of stone, I know. :laugh:

GardenStateGirlie
04-21-2005, 11:56 PM
Heart of stone, I know. :laugh:

The world may someday spin off its axis but that shall be one thing I rely on :laugh:

LiquidBlue5000
04-22-2005, 12:23 AM
Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph. Thrown in for the sake of romantic melodrama, imo.

The quality of her voice and how she sings it is what makes the Tusk version so special to me. For me, she doesn't match it and she simply can't these days. It's like performing I'm So Afraid but without Lindsey on guitar. Doesn't make the current live versions bad, I think they're fab, they simply don't have as a big an effect on me because the key ingredient is missing.

On the Tusk album, she sorta whispers through the song, singing gently throughout... on the SYW tour, she sung it loud and put alot more strength into the vocals.. both very different from each other, no doubt.. having said that though, i really do like both versions :nod:

Johnny Stew
04-22-2005, 12:42 AM
It's up to her to prove me wrong by kicking some ass.Well, as long as she keeps living her life just to please you! :laugh:

Johnny Stew
04-22-2005, 12:46 AM
Fech, that "I still need you" crap makes me ralph.Part of maturity is the ability to admit that you need someone. ;)

I thought those ad-libs were perfect, and, for me, her voice in general took that song to a place the studio version never quite reached.

Johnny Stew
04-22-2005, 12:47 AM
Heart of stone, I know. :laugh:I always wondered who Christine wrote that song for! :laugh:

dissention
04-22-2005, 12:52 AM
Part of maturity is the ability to admit that you need someone. ;)

Everyone needs someone, wiseass. I just don't find those types of lyrics or songs very appealing. ;) I dislike those adlibs as much as I dislike her "I'm down on my knees" crap from If You Ever Did Believe. Ugh.

amber
04-22-2005, 01:08 AM
Everyone needs someone, wiseass. I just don't find those types of lyrics or songs very appealing. ;) I dislike those adlibs as much as I dislike her "I'm down on my knees" crap from If You Ever Did Believe. Ugh.
I love that song, I think the tune is so pretty. And, of course, since I would never, ever, say that in my real life, I appreciate vicariously thinking it through Stevie. :D It would hardly be cathartic if she had a song saying "well, f*** off then, a-hole!" which is what I may be more likely to say.... :laugh:

sodascouts
04-22-2005, 06:33 PM
I'd be VERY apprehensive to hear her sing "Julia" now... but then the contrast between the original and 'Dance' "Silver Springs" was pretty significant, too, and, yet, in many ways the latter outshone the original.
She also blew the 'Tusk' version of "Beautiful Child" out of the water with her 'SYW' tour performances... so it's definitely possible.

Agree on both counts, and I'll add "Landslide" to that. Her Dance version was far more powerful than the White Album one, IMO.

cliffdweller
04-25-2005, 02:39 PM
I know - I loved that and I also loved the IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEEEEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII do - wish that - you weeerrreee MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

That haunts me to this day.

I also loved the first time she literall glared at LB and belted DIRECTLY to him

STILL I AM A FOOL

foot stomping and all - sheeebus

I love "still I am a fool." LOVE IT. :nod:

AliceLover
04-25-2005, 03:36 PM
I just saw a commercial on TV last night for the tour in Mansfield. Showed a bunch of videos from both of them, then when tickets go on sale and such. It was a pretty lengthy commercial so at least SOME promotion is being made.

Jimmy