ABC apologizes for steamy MNF intro

[estranged4life]

The network's steamy intro to the Philadelphia-Dallas game, featuring a naked Nicollette Sheridan jumping into the arms of Eagles receiver Terrell Owens, drew complaints from viewers and the NFL.

ABC Sports apologized Tuesday for the segment, used a day earlier to promote the hit show "Desperate Housewives" and broadcast just nine months after another football flap, the Janet Jackson Super Bowl fiasco.

"We have heard from many of our viewers about last night's "MNF" opening segment and we agree that the placement was inappropriate," ABC Sports said in a statement.

The NFL called the intro "inappropriate and unsuitable for our "Monday Night Football" audience."

"While ABC may have gained attention for one of its other shows, the NFL and its fans lost," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

The FCC is investigating the incident, CNN reported Monday.

The spot showed Owens and Sheridan in an empty locker room, with Sheridan wearing only a towel and provocatively asking Owens to skip the game for her.

After she dropped her towel, he smiled, agreed to be late for the contest and she jumped into his arms. Sheridan was shown only from behind and above the waist after she dropped the towel.

Then the shot panned out to two more stars of "Desperate Housewives" Teri Hatcher and Felicity Huffman, watching the scene unfold on a television and commenting on desperate women.

The Eagles said they appreciated ABC Sports' apology.

"It is normal for teams to cooperate with ABC in the development of an opening for its broadcast," the team said. "After seeing the final piece, we wish it hadn't aired."

ABC has broadcast "Monday Night Football" with a 5-second delay this season, a precaution after Jackson's wardrobe malfunction at February's Super Bowl.

At halftime of that game, Justin Timberlake ripped off part of Jackson's brassiere, exposing her right breast to a TV audience of some 90 million. The Super Bowl was broadcast on CBS, which was fined a record $550,000 by the FCC.

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:rolleyes:

The fundies are just looking for any reason to get Desperate Housewives kicked off the air. I find it rather funny that they complain the show is inappropriate for their young children. Kinda makes you wonder why parents allow their young children to stay up past nine o'clock on a Sunday night to be exposed to such a program. And aren't these the same people who demanded the V-chip?

[SuzeQuze]

:rolleyes:

The fundies are just looking for any reason to get Desperate Housewives kicked off the air. I find it rather funny that they complain the show is inappropriate for their young children. Kinda makes you wonder why parents allow their young children to stay up past nine o'clock on a Sunday night to be exposed to such a program. And aren't these the same people who demanded the V-chip?

They are such losers. Like seeing a naked woman is going to poison them or something. Oh wait, impure thoughts... Jeez Louise, can we fight for important things, please? Ugh!!

Seriously though, what is with this obsession that nudity is evil?

[Lisa1769]

I didn't think the intro was bad at all.

Kinda makes you wonder why parents allow their young children to stay up past nine o'clock on a Sunday night to be exposed to such a program.

It's 6 p.m. on the west coast...8 p.m. central.

They are such losers. Like seeing a naked woman is going to poison them or something. Oh wait, impure thoughts... Jeez Louise, can we fight for important things, please? Ugh!!

I disagree. Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations. I cringe when the Herbal Essence commercial, mimicking a womans orgasm, comes on. I enjoy them immensely but not ready for my child to know about a womans orgasm. I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:

[JohnL]

People need to worry about something that matters. ABC apologized afterward...like they didn't know the kind of reaction this would get. Geez people...lighten up.

[DrummerDeanna]

I didn't think the intro was bad at all.



It's 6 p.m. on the west coast...8 p.m. central.



I disagree. Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations. I cringe when the Herbal Essence commercial, mimicking a womans orgasm, comes on. I enjoy them immensely but not ready for my child to know about a womans orgasm. I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:


Then people shouldn't let their kids watch that stuff!!

It is NOT the networks fault - it's the fault of the parents if their kids are watching that stuff....my sister maintains strict restrictions on what my nephew watches....if he's still up when they want to watch something lik DH - then they either tape it - or he goes and reads or plays....:shrug:

So yeah - I don't think tv networks are really the place that should hold the responsibility - I don't want a show I like taken off because some parents don't approve...then don't watch it...

[SuzeQuze]

...
I disagree. Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations. I cringe when the Herbal Essence commercial, mimicking a womans orgasm, comes on. I enjoy them immensely but not ready for my child to know about a womans orgasm. I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:

Well, can you tell I don't have kids? I didn't realize this show airs so early in other time zones. I hate that Herbal Essences commercial too. They seem to have a new campaign though that avoids that. To be honest, I didn't see the NS commercial so I am not aware of how explicit it was. I'm just super sensitive to any sort of censorship these days in this political climate.

[David]

The network's steamy intro to the Philadelphia-Dallas game, featuring a naked Nicollette Sheridan jumping into the arms of Eagles receiver Terrell Owens, drew complaints from viewers and the NFL.HAAAHAA!!! It's kind of amusing, I'll admit, occasionally watching these stupid networks, representing the worst kind of corporate think, repeatedly flagellate themselves whenever negative "feedback" rolls in.
The NFL called the intro "inappropriate and unsuitable for our "Monday Night Football" audience."Well, blow me down! So the Monday Night Football audience doesn't like slinky little Nicolette Sheridan? What corporate doublespeak crap.
"While ABC may have gained attention for one of its other shows, the NFL and its fans lost," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.Ah, yes . . . the inevitable flunkie issues forth.
The FCC is investigating the incident, CNN reported Monday.My goodness. Does that ever-so-vigilant group of puritanical busybodies have nothing better to do?

God, how I wish Mencken were still alive.

[Lisa1769]

Then people shouldn't let their kids watch that stuff!!

It is NOT the networks fault - it's the fault of the parents if their kids are watching that stuff....my sister maintains strict restrictions on what my nephew watches....if he's still up when they want to watch something lik DH - then they either tape it - or he goes and reads or plays....:shrug:

So yeah - I don't think tv networks are really the place that should hold the responsibility - I don't want a show I like taken off because some parents don't approve...then don't watch it...


Ummm, I agree with you totally. I restrict what my son watches. The V Chip is enabled on his television. We watch Monday Night Football, I said I didnt see anything wrong with the intro. But commercials that are on your local stations, abc, nbc & cbs air those kind of commercials and you dont know their coming on, you could be watching a family show and there it is... now unless you're sitting there with remote in hand ready to switch the channel...too late...done over.....

[David]

Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations.That's certainly a wise stance. However, in practical terms, it would require throwing your TV sets in the trash.
I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:Actually, the kids feeding themselves a daily diet of television of any kind generally don't grow up at all.

[Lisa1769]

That's certainly a wise stance. However, in practical terms, it would require throwing your TV sets in the trash.
Actually, the kids feeding themselves a daily diet of television of any kind generally don't grow up at all.


Very True!

[DrummerDeanna]

Ummm, I agree with you totally. I restrict what my son watches. The V Chip is enabled on his television. We watch Monday Night Football, I said I didnt see anything wrong with the intro. But commercials that are on your local stations, abc, nbc & cbs air those kind of commercials and you dont know their coming on, you could be watching a family show and there it is... now unless you're sitting there with remote in hand ready to switch the channel...too late...done over.....

Oh - right - that has actually happened where a spotty commercial showed up - so in that case - yeah pretty much out of parental control....side note _ I stopped using Herbal Essences years ago because I found their commercials so utterly stupid...

[Pisces Queen]

I didn't find the skit to be anymore sexual that those darn Levitra ~ Viagra commercials they run through the entire game. :nod:

[Lisa1769]

side note _ I stopped using Herbal Essences years ago because I found their commercials so utterly stupid...

Me too. :p

[Lisa1769]

I didn't find the skit to be anymore sexual that those darn Levitra ~ Viagra commercials they run through the entire game. :nod:

Yea, there's another example.

BTW, I see you're from Dallas. I was so rooting for the Cowboys. :wavey:

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It's 6 p.m. on the west coast...8 p.m. central.

I wouldn't let my kids watch it at all, PERIOD. No matter if it was on at one in the afternoon or three in the morning. I would know exactly what my children watch, when they watch it. The V-chip has been around for almost ten years, it's no ones fault but the parents if they don't utilize it and end up exposing their children to "objectionable" material. It's getting really boring listening to parents complain about television when it's obvious that if they were doing their jobs in keeping their children form watching such things, there would be no problem.

I disagree. Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations. I cringe when the Herbal Essence commercial, mimicking a womans orgasm, comes on. I enjoy them immensely but not ready for my child to know about a womans orgasm. I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:

It all depends on the parent and the child. I grew up watching horror movies and TV shows like Melrose Place, Picket Fences, and American Gothic, yet I turned out perfectly fine. I don't solicit hookers or rape women, nor I do murder people. :laugh: But, I've always thought that parents should be up-front with their children about things like sex and violence, not hide them from it. People should breed maturity in their children.

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Ummm, I agree with you totally. I restrict what my son watches. The V Chip is enabled on his television. We watch Monday Night Football, I said I didnt see anything wrong with the intro. But commercials that are on your local stations, abc, nbc & cbs air those kind of commercials and you dont know their coming on, you could be watching a family show and there it is... now unless you're sitting there with remote in hand ready to switch the channel...too late...done over.....

I'm quite surprsied that no one is complaining over the fact that ABC Family airs shows like Smallville and Gilmore Girls during the day. Or movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer and The Birdcage. :shocked:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I disagree. Being a mother of a 12 year boy you dont quite want them looking at naked bodies in sexual situations. I cringe when the Herbal Essence commercial, mimicking a womans orgasm, comes on. I enjoy them immensely but not ready for my child to know about a womans orgasm. I dunno, I just think our kids are growing up way to fast. :distress:
I agree with you on this. I'm glad they have stopped showing the Christina Aguilera advert for some mobile company... virgin I think. Where she is going up and down on the chair? My 8 year old wanted more of an explanation....

Pip

[Lisa1769]

I wouldn't let my kids watch it at all, PERIOD. No matter if it was on at one in the afternoon or three in the morning. I would know exactly what my children watch, when they watch it. The V-chip has been around for almost ten years, it's no ones fault but the parents if they don't utilize it and end up exposing their children to "objectionable" material. It's getting really boring listening to parents complain about television when it's obvious that if they were doing their jobs in keeping their children form watching such things, there would be no problem.

Just to clarify, you wouldn't let your children watch football? My son loves loves football. He plays on a little league team. I think sports are a good way to keep children active and excercising instead of TV or video games.

[SuzeQuze]

I agree with you on this. I'm glad they have stopped showing the Christina Aguilera advert for some mobile company... virgin I think. Where she is going up and down on the chair? My 8 year old wanted more of an explanation....

Pip

Omigod, we don't get to see that stuff over here. American stars do lots of commercials for other countries that they don't do here. She is so skanky, ewwww, sorry your 8 year old had to see that!!!

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Just to clarify, you wouldn't let your children watch football? My son loves loves football. He plays on a little league team. I think sports are a good way to keep children active and excercising instead of TV or video games.

No, I wouldn't let them watch shows like Desperate Housewives. :laugh:

As for football, it would depend on how old the kid was. I wouldn't let my kid stay up on a schoolnight and watch any sort of TV, it's bed by 8PM. Unless he/she was older, of course.

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Omigod, we don't get to see that stuff over here. American stars do lots of commercials for other countries that they don't do here. She is so skanky, ewwww, sorry your 8 year old had to see that!!!

The difference between American TV and British TV is startling. They can say "****" and "asshole" on the BBC and show naked rear ends and have frank talk about orgies, but we can't. :laugh: Just watch one episode of Absolutely Fabulous!

[Lisa1769]

No, I wouldn't let them watch shows like Desperate Housewives. :laugh:

As for football, it would depend on how old the kid was. I wouldn't let my kid stay up on a schoolnight and watch any sort of TV, it's bed by 8PM. Unless he/she was older, of course.


Oh, Okay..I was quoting the time for MNF. I was like, now what is wrong with football? :laugh:

[hayley]

I'm quite surprsied that no one is complaining over the fact that ABC Family airs shows like Smallville and Gilmore Girls during the day. Or movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer and The Birdcage. :shocked:

Gilmore Girls is a ridiculously family-oriented show, there shouldn't be any problems with it being on during the day. It was actually initially funded by a grant from some parents/family counsel, they got a grant for basically being relatively family-friendly, and showing unconventional family relationships in a positive light. Smallville, on the other hand... dirty!

In other ABC news-

ABC Teams 'Alias' with 'Lost' for Midseason (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|91856|1|,00.html)

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) "Desperate Housewives" has become a runaway hit for ABC this season in the Sunday timeslot formerly occupied by "Alias." That's created a bit of a dilemma -- albeit one any network would like to have -- when it came to finding a new home for the spy series.
ABC will solve that problem by pairing "Alias" with its other freshman smash, "Lost," on Wednesday nights beginning Jan. 5. Both shows are executive produced by J.J. Abrams, and ABC Entertainment president Stephen McPherson is hoping that link will help "Alias" break beyond its cult-show status in the ratings.

"When we made the strategic decision this fall on 'Alias,' we only hoped to be in the situation we find ourselves in today," McPherson says. "'Lost' provides a terrific platform for 'Alias'' new season. Not only do both shows have similar audience profiles ... but they also share J.J.'s unique sensibility. This is a great two-hour block of programming."

"Alias" will open its fourth season with a two-hour premiere at 9 p.m. ET Wednesday, Jan. 5. ABC is sticking to its plan to air the show without repeats through the rest of the season, which would put its season finale near the end of May sweeps.
As a result of "Alias" moving to Wednesday, the "Bachelor" franchise is being shipped to Monday nights, where ABC will replace "Monday Night Football" with an all-unscripted night of programming.

Beginning Jan. 10, Mondays will lead off with "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition: How'd They Do That?," a behind-the-scenes look at the hit home-makeover series that ABC tried out as a special on Nov. 1, to promising results. Each episode will break down the previous night's "EM: Home Edition" to explain how host Ty Pennington and his team of contractors and designers accomplished their build.

"The Bachelorette," featuring ex-rose recipient Jen Schefft, will air at 9 p.m. Mondays. Schefft is returning to the TV-romance game after her engagement and subsequent breakup with "Bachelor" No. 3 Andrew Firestone. A new series, "Supernanny," debuts Jan. 17 and will air at 10 p.m. Mondays.

"What to do with Monday night after football has always been one of the network's biggest challenges," McPherson says. "But we think that we've come up with a strategy for success."

The schedule shuffle leaves the medical drama "Grey's Anatomy," which ABC previously announced for Monday nights post-football, without a home for the time being. It and another drama, "Eyes," will be used to plug holes as needed.
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Today's an awesome day! I just found out that I get to keep my job and am not getting laid off, something I've been on pins and needles about for months, and Alias is going to be on in like seven weeks!

And my only problem with the naked Nicolette Sheridan is that it should've been a naked Eva Longoria!

[The Tower]

It's unbelievable how puritanical American people are. It just makes me sick.

[SuzeQuze]

The difference between American TV and British TV is startling. They can say "****" and "asshole" on the BBC and show naked rear ends and have frank talk about orgies, but we can't. :laugh: Just watch one episode of Absolutely Fabulous!

I love AbFab. Those two are hysterical! Edina is only alive because she's been preserved by vodka!

[Pisces Queen]

BTW, I see you're from Dallas. I was so rooting for the Cowboys. :wavey:


I was rooting for the Cowboy's but they looked like they were still in the locker room. :eek:

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I love AbFab. Those two are hysterical! Edina is only alive because she's been preserved by vodka!

:laugh: I know! Have you seen the episode where Saffy gives birth to her baby? Bo and Marshall show up and try to steal it for their Hollywood adoption company to sell to Halle Berry. :laugh: BUT THEY END UP STEALING THE PLACENTA INSTEAD!

[SuzeQuze]

:laugh: I know! Have you seen the episode where Saffy gives birth to her baby? Bo and Marshall show up and try to steal it for their Hollywood adoption company to sell to Halle Berry. :laugh: BUT THEY END UP STEALING THE PLACENTA INSTEAD!

I actually haven't seen the show in quite a while, I haven't seen this one. Sounds more like a South Park episode!

[DrummerDeanna]

:laugh: I know! Have you seen the episode where Saffy gives birth to her baby? Bo and Marshall show up and try to steal it for their Hollywood adoption company to sell to Halle Berry. :laugh: BUT THEY END UP STEALING THE PLACENTA INSTEAD!

LOVE AbFab - but never saw that episode...and now I have no place to see them but currently can't afford the DVD's ;)

My favorite episode is and always will be Poor - I love when they go on the drunken outing through the city...and the classic, "Why not tax the stupid people!?!"

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LOVE AbFab - but never saw that episode...and now I have no place to see them but currently can't afford the DVD's ;)

My favorite episode is and always will be Poor - I love when they go on the drunken outing through the city...and the classic, "Why not tax the stupid people!?!"

:laugh:

"Let's just have a stupidity tax! We don't all need nursemaiding!"

My personal favorite is Orgy. "They don't put fingers on these gloves, dear!" :lol: I literally spewed my drink!!!!!!!!!! And the Paris epsiode was hysterical. "Your tits are the keys to your cage, dahling!"

Series 5 came out on DVD a few months back, get it when you can because you won't be disappointed. It has the placenta episode. :laugh:

[estranged4life]

was because I find ABC hypocritical...The wine/bitch/moan that "Saving Private Ryan" was too graphic (Bull****!) & filled with vulgar language (More Bull****!) yet they show the MNF intro (Which I missed because who wanted to see the mighty Eagles DESTROY the "Cow-girls" :nod: )

The TV show "Desparate Housewives" IMO is not as riske' as ABC (Awfully Bad Comedies) makes it to be, I see it as a prime-time "Soap Opera" with a humorous twist...Hell daytime soaps show much worse!

Aw Disney, I prey that Mickey Mouse chokes on some tainted cheese & f**kin dies!!!

Brian j.

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was because I find ABC hypocritical...The wine/bitch/moan that "Saving Private Ryan" was too graphic (Bull****!) & filled with vulgar language (More Bull****!) yet they show the MNF intro (Which I missed because who wanted to see the mighty Eagles DESTROY the "Cow-girls" :nod: )

The TV show "Desparate Housewives" IMO is not as riske' as ABC (Awfully Bad Comedies) makes it to be, I see it as a prime-time "Soap Opera" with a humorous twist...Hell daytime soaps show much worse!

Aw Disney, I prey that Mickey Mouse chokes on some tainted cheese & f**kin dies!!!

Brian j.

I don't know, that last episode with the scrotum bit and premature ejaculation was pretty risque. :laugh:

And, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't ABC who refused to air SPR, it was a lot of the affiliates. ABC still went ahead with it.

[estranged4life]

I don't know, that last episode with the scrotum bit and premature ejaculation was pretty risque. :laugh:

And, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't ABC who refused to air SPR, it was a lot of the affiliates. ABC still went ahead with it.

but the SPR owned stations here arent even ABC affiliates, They are UPN/FOX affiliates so no-one is watchin' 'em anyways :lol:

Brian "No More Mr.Nice Guy" j.

[Janet]

As a child, I never ever stayed up past 9 unless it was a weekend, with no school, and I was watching supervised movie or something.

These KIDS who are allowed to watch Monday Night Football, which doesn't even start until 9...wtf?!

Desperate Housewives is SO tame. I haven't seen anything shocking. It's really tame and harmless and fun. My kids wouldn't be up anyway, it's on after 9.

It's ridiculous....so stupid. Parents need to take responsibility for their OWN kids....not blame everything else.

[hayley]

MNF is on at 8PM here in the Midwest, and it's on at 6PM on the West Coast, isn't it?

[amber]

Ummm, I agree with you totally. I restrict what my son watches. The V Chip is enabled on his television. We watch Monday Night Football, I said I didnt see anything wrong with the intro. But commercials that are on your local stations, abc, nbc & cbs air those kind of commercials and you dont know their coming on, you could be watching a family show and there it is... now unless you're sitting there with remote in hand ready to switch the channel...too late...done over.....
Football would be too violent for my kids to watch. I think it's much more detrimental to society for kids to see violent movies, etc, than a naked body, or sex.

[sparky]

As usual, I feel like I am living on a different planet. My TV hasn't been on for well over a week. And I work in television.
Has there been a national law passed that requires that children watch TV ?
No wonder a third of kids in this country are obese. Don't kids play sports, ride bikes, read, practice musical instruments, do homework, do chores, go to parks, or do anything but sit on their fat neglected butts all day long ? :shrug:

[amber]

As usual, I feel like I am living on a different planet. My TV hasn't been on for well over a week. And I work in television.
Has there been a national law passed that requires that children watch TV ?
No wonder a third of kids in this country are obese. Don't kids play sports, ride bikes, read, practice musical instruments, do homework, do chores, go to parks, or do anything but sit on their fat neglected butts all day long ? :shrug:
don't get me started, that's exactly what i would've wrote. I usually rant about this until i realized that in a lot of cities and stuff, kids can't go out and play quite as much :distress: But still. I didn't have a TV hardly at all between ages 0-10 (we had one for a bit when i was 8, and i watched on my bi-yearly visits to Grandma) and i just ran and played constantly. when i had to stay inside, or go somewhere boring with my mom, I read books. sometimes i would draw, or practice writing. But i just read books, all the time. :shrug: Aside from homework and chores. I mean, i couldn't wait to go outside and run my ass off all day long. I really don't think my child is going to have access to watching TV. My friends kid has a rule - no TV on the weekdays, and on weekends he can watch 3 hours (like, cartoons from 7-10 or 11) that seems really good. I might want my kid to watch educational and nature programs, which i remember we watched a ton of when we did have a TV.

[Lisa1769]

Football would be too violent for my kids to watch. I think it's much more detrimental to society for kids to see violent movies, etc, than a naked body, or sex.

I still would choose for my son, who's in the early stages of puberty, to be watching football instead of porn. :shrug:

[amber]

I still would choose for my son, who's in the early stages of puberty, to be watching football instead of porn. :shrug:
porn, yeah. And he's definitely old enough to watch football. I would choose my son to read a book or play outside, but when watching TV, Football would be ok. Specially if he plays (god forbid my son play football - ruins the knees faster than you can say "knees".)

[Lisa1769]

He's not big into reading. But playing outside is where he spends most of his time. After school, I have a yardful of kids playing kick ball, baseball, basketball, football and of course dodge ball. :D :D But now with winter coming, he'll be inside more and I'm sure playing video games and watching the tube.

[amber]

He's not big into reading. But playing outside is where he spends most of his time. After school, I have a yardful of kids playing kick ball, baseball, basketball, football and of course dodge ball. :D :D But now with winter coming, he'll be inside more and I'm sure playing video games and watching the tube.
That's great. i also have a rule for my theoretical child about no video games. It seems like the most colossal waste of time and brains. but, whatevah. some of the video games are so violent. It seems to me, that a kid won't be into reading unless he is taught to be, but again, i don't have my own kid. i read a lot, because my mom did, and if we went out to eat she was reading, and i was bored, so i learned how as quickly as possible. (age 3-4). We didn't have a TV, and if i was bored my mom would say - go read a book. :shrug:
But everyone is different, and that's ok. :wavey:

[Lisa1769]

You're right about the video games, most of them are violent and of course they are the ones kids want. But, I caved and was in line early when Halo 2 came out. :o I'm not a perfect Mom, but I'm in tune with my child. :)

[amber]

You're right about the video games, most of them are violent and of course they are the ones kids want. But, I caved and was in line early when Halo 2 came out. :o I'm not a perfect Mom, but I'm in tune with my child. :)
Well, you sound very nice. I'm not sure i should even have a kid, i'd be one of those "my job isn't to be my child's friend, it's to raise them" parents. Gad! :laugh: I'm also appalled at what parents let their children eat, nowadays, so clearly i'd be an evil despot! :laugh: Like, I would minimally care what my child wants, because of course they want all the stuff they shouldn't have. :rolleyes: I'm usually astounded at the extent to which parents let their kids make decisions. Yep, evil despot parent, that is me! :D

[Lisa1769]

He thinks I'm evil cuz I won't let him have a cell phone. I told him I don't wanna have to call him to know where he is, I want to know at all times.


I'm not sure i should even have a kid, i'd be one of those "my job isn't to be my child's friend, it's to raise them" parents.

I'm one of those. Raising kids can be difficult. I want him to have things I didn't, but I also want him to know his life isn't over if he doesn't have what somebody else does. My family was very poor when I was young. We lived in the country and I never had the opportunity to play sports in school and such, I went to maybe 2 Christmas Programs. Didn't have extra money for the gas it would take to go into town. I'm fortunate enough to give him things that I wasn't able to have. I'm fair and consistent, and I'm proud of him. He's a good kid but still has to be reminded who's the boss. ;)

[amber]

He thinks I'm evil cuz I won't let him have a cell phone. I told him I don't wanna have to call him to know where he is, I want to know at all times.


I'm not sure i should even have a kid, i'd be one of those "my job isn't to be my child's friend, it's to raise them" parents.

I'm one of those. Raising kids can be difficult. I want him to have things I didn't, but I also want him to know his life isn't over if he doesn't have what somebody else does. My family was very poor when I was young. We lived in the country and I never had the opportunity to play sports in school and such, I went to maybe 2 Christmas Programs. Didn't have extra money for the gas it would take to go into town. I'm fortunate enough to give him things that I wasn't able to have. I'm fair and consistent, and I'm proud of him. He's a good kid but still has to be reminded who's the boss. ;)
That sounds wonderful. I feel the same way. the things that i want them to have are like my friends had - lessons for whatever they want, sports camps, music/drama camps, costumes and uniforms and instruments for shool stuff...All the great things kids can do that are good for them. :) good for you, at being a good mom. hardest job ever. :wavey:

[madformac]

It freaks me out that most kids have a TV in their bedroom..

You don't know what the hell they are watching at night..

You're right about the video games, most of them are violent and of course they are the ones kids want. But, I caved and was in line early when Halo 2 came out. I'm not a perfect Mom, but I'm in tune with my child.

Yeah, games are getting ridiculous. I work in a store. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is an 18 certificate, I've had far more kids between the ages of 9 and 16 ask for it than adults, then it pisses me off when the parent buys it for them. I'll be saying "you do realise this game is an 18 certificate and contains violence, drive by shootings, drug dealing and prostitution?" and the parents are like "Yes but I bought him the last one and it kept him quiet for ages" :confused: :mad: :mad: :( What can you do? You can't refuse to serve an adult.

As for the great old subject of porn, it's my opinion that by the time you are old enough to purchase it you've grown out of it!!! :laugh:

And the nakedness during MNF debate... Well, I'd be more concerned about the violence of 22 grown men trying to hurt each other having an effect on a child than a rear shot of some girls top half..

I'd be a strict parent probably.. But I won't have children until I'm mentally and financially equipped to deal with and provide for them. Which is not anytime soon...

[Lisa1769]

That sounds wonderful. I feel the same way. the things that i want them to have are like my friends had - lessons for whatever they want, sports camps, music/drama camps, costumes and uniforms and instruments for shool stuff...All the great things kids can do that are good for them. :) good for you, at being a good mom. hardest job ever. :wavey:

Thanks Amber!

[amber]

It freaks me out that most kids have a TV in their bedroom..

You don't know what the hell they are watching at night..



Yeah, games are getting ridiculous. I work in a store. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is an 18 certificate, I've had far more kids between the ages of 9 and 16 ask for it than adults, then it pisses me off when the parent buys it for them. I'll be saying "you do realise this game is an 18 certificate and contains violence, drive by shootings, drug dealing and prostitution?" and the parents are like "Yes but I bought him the last one and it kept him quiet for ages" :confused: :mad: :mad: :( What can you do? You can't refuse to serve an adult.

As for the great old subject of porn, it's my opinion that by the time you are old enough to purchase it you've grown out of it!!! :laugh:

And the nakedness during MNF debate... Well, I'd be more concerned about the violence of 22 grown men trying to hurt each other having an effect on a child than a rear shot of some girls top half..

I'd be a strict parent probably.. But I won't have children until I'm mentally and financially equipped to deal with and provide for them. Which is not anytime soon...
Perfect Post. :xoxo:

[wondergirl9847]

It freaks me out that most kids have a TV in their bedroom..

You don't know what the hell they are watching at night..


I had a TV in my room when I was about 7 or 8. I used to spend all summer watching classic TV shows such as Mr. Ed, Green Acres, Gidget, Andy Griffith Show, Gomer Pyle, etc. LOL I also had an Atari system and later on...Nintendo (My mom nicknamed me "Numb Thumbs" from spending hours upon hours trying to beat Super Mario Bros. 3! LMAO!!)

I also played outside ALOT as a kid. I miss that tan I used to have. LOL

You could call me a spoiled brat, I guess. I'm an only child. I had a TV, VCR (later on), cable (later on), video game systems, pets. I was a good kid, made pretty good grades, had friends, but could play by myself for hours in my room with my toys. It depends on how you're raised, I guess.

[madformac]

You could call me a spoiled brat, I guess. I'm an only child. I had a TV, VCR (later on), cable (later on), video game systems, pets. I was a good kid, made pretty good grades, had friends, but could play by myself for hours in my room with my toys. It depends on how you're raised, I guess.


I could have wrote exactly that paragraph myself... :nod:

[amber]

I could have wrote exactly that paragraph myself... :nod:
Really? You had all that stuff? i'm suprised your against it, then. I am an only child - but i didn't have any stuff. :laugh: well, i had books...

[wondergirl9847]

I could have wrote exactly that paragraph myself... :nod:

Did you also tape yourself talking in a weird, cartoon-ish voice?

Just me then?

Okay. LOL

I used to tape myself singing, talking, doing "shows". I still have them somewhere.

[Lisa1769]

well, i had books...

lol.....We played alot of cards and dominos.

I know one thing, when you grow up not having much it forces you to use your imagination. Other kids had mini bikes, I had an old push lawn mower without the motor, we used a five gallon bucket for a seat and would go to the top of the hill and hope for a good ride! :laugh:

I didn't have a bicycle until I won it at a fair. I was probably 6. It was a ten speed, way to big for me so we took it to Wal-Mart and traded it in for 2 smaller ones, one for my sister.

[Lisa1769]

Did you also tape yourself talking in a weird, cartoon-ish voice?

Just me then?

Okay. LOL

I used to tape myself singing, talking, doing "shows". I still have them somewhere.


I remember once I taped myself singing Debbie Boone's , You Light Up My Life....lol....I would sit in front of the mirror and just sing to myself...I was a dork, still am... :lol: :lol:

[madformac]

Really? You had all that stuff? i'm suprised your against it, then. I am an only child - but i didn't have any stuff. :laugh: well, i had books...


Yeah I had all that stuff, Now I'm older I still have stuff, boys toys etc...

Nothing wrong with them if they are used correctly and you don't lose your sense of perspective as a person, morals, integrity etc, but like anything somebody will abuse it.. The people that abuse such things are the ones I'm getting at.

The reason I'm against it is that for me it didn't affect too much my mental and emotional growth into an adult because I did all the other stuff like play outside, sports, reading books etc too, I had a sense of balance. I fear kids today have no equilibrium, it's all one sided and that is what is breeding these problems... God help us when these kids grow up. :shocked:

[madformac]

Did you also tape yourself talking in a weird, cartoon-ish voice?

Just me then?

Okay. LOL

I used to tape myself singing, talking, doing "shows". I still have them somewhere.


Erm.................No........ :shocked:

You're on your own there.....


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[amber]

Did you also tape yourself talking in a weird, cartoon-ish voice?

Just me then?

Okay. LOL

I used to tape myself singing, talking, doing "shows". I still have them somewhere.
On the same tape as Eye of the Tiger, I have this whole play thing i made up, about a german doctor named doctor zippy, and he had an accent. And other people had different accents...and stuff... :laugh:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

The difference between American TV and British TV is startling. They can say "****" and "asshole" on the BBC and show naked rear ends and have frank talk about orgies, but we can't. :laugh: Just watch one episode of Absolutely Fabulous!
LOL! The other evening the Richard and Judy chat show had a discusion about how chocolate is supposed to improve your sex life. And a woman called in to take part in a quiz and Richard promptly asked her 'How is your sex life?' This was at 5.30pm!

Pip

[Gwillaker]

They are such losers. Like seeing a naked woman is going to poison them or something. Oh wait, impure thoughts... Jeez Louise, can we fight for important things, please? Ugh!!

Seriously though, what is with this obsession that nudity is evil?

Good point. I dont get it :distress: