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darklinensuit
06-08-2004, 11:02 PM
What are Stevie's happiest and saddest songs?
My picks:
Happiest:
1) Say You Will
2) Think About It
3) Cathouse Blues (At least playful if not happy)
Saddest:
1) Storms
2) Silver Springs
3) Beautiful Child
4) Love Is
- Jake
skcin
06-09-2004, 06:44 AM
I love all of your choices, I'll try to pick different songs:
Happiest:
I Don't Wanna Know
Seven Wonders
That's Alright
Saddest:
Rose Garden
Beauty & the Beast
POTU (the version on the remastered Rumours bonus disc)
laurie816
06-09-2004, 07:10 AM
Hmm...let's see if I could pick even more different ones
Happy:
Juliet
Angel
Rhiannon
Fireflies
Sad:
Nightbird
Goodbye Baby
I Miss You
Sable On Blond
dissention
06-09-2004, 08:13 AM
Happiest:
Say You Will
Destiny Rules
Rooms On Fire
Every Day
Gate & Garden
Saddest:
Storms (reads like a suicide note)
Trouble In Shangri-La
Doing the Best That I Can
Space Needle
Sable On Blonde
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 10:27 AM
I love all of your choices, I'll try to pick different songs:
Happiest:
I Don't Wanna Know
Seven Wonders
That's Alright
Saddest:
Rose Garden
Beauty & the Beast
POTU (the version on the remastered Rumours bonus disc)
I agree with all of your saddest, especially POTU. Let's throw in Mistaken Love as well.
None of your happy choices seem happy to me. They're all about reflecting on break-ups in a bittersweet way, IMO.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 10:30 AM
Hmm...let's see if I could pick even more different ones
Happy:
Juliet
Angel
Rhiannon
Fireflies
Sad:
Nightbird
Goodbye Baby
I Miss You
Sable On Blond
Again, I can see Juliet as happy, but none of the others seem very happy to me.
And IMO Nightbird doesn't strike me as very sad in relation to the tragedy of some of Stevie's songs. Can you explain your picks?
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 10:32 AM
Happiest:
Say You Will
Destiny Rules
Rooms On Fire
Every Day
Gate & Garden
Saddest:
Storms (reads like a suicide note)
Trouble In Shangri-La
Doing the Best That I Can
Space Needle
Sable On Blonde
Destiny Rules does not sound happy to me. Can you explain the pick?
I agree about Storms. When I first heard it, I thought the "another test" line was "a matter of death."
- Jake
cliffdweller
06-09-2004, 10:47 AM
This is hard because a lot of times Stevies lyrics don't match the mood of her songs or vice versa. So with that in mind...
Happiest:
Think About It
Angel
I Don't Wanna Know (it's upbeat, as for the lyrics, they're not too serious either)
Seven Wonders
SYW
Enchanted
Saddest:
Storms
Beauty and The Beast
Goodbye Baby
Belladonna
How Still My Love
Nightbird (because it's all about Robin's death)
dissention
06-09-2004, 11:02 AM
Destiny Rules does not sound happy to me. Can you explain the pick?
She's singing about being with her love for eternity in another life, because her destiny right now doesn't have it in the cards. When they were together in a beautiful setting, however, it was bliss and nothing else mattered. Even though they're no longer on the same path as each other, neither regrets what they had because it was beautiful while it lasted; even though it's over, they still have the memories. Sounds happy to moi.
Just look at the lyrics:
Maybe we were together in another life
Maybe we are together in a parallel universe
Maybe our paths are not supposed to cross twice
Maybe your arms are not supposed to go around me
When I see you again,
As I always do
It appears to me that
Destiny rules
And the spirits are ruthless with the paths they choose
It's not being together,
It's just following the rules
No one's a fool...
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
No one's a fool...
dissention
06-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Goodbye Baby
I never considred this a sad song. If anything, it's a very hopeful song. She's saying that she wishes someone's (let's not get into who that someone is :laugh: ) heart isn't broken because she'll be in their company again and forever eventually.
skcin
06-09-2004, 11:14 AM
I agree with all of your saddest, especially POTU. Let's throw in Mistaken Love as well.
None of your happy choices seem happy to me. They're all about reflecting on break-ups in a bittersweet way, IMO.
- Jake
Screw you, Jake.
Just kidding. I guess it's the music & delivery more than the actual lyrics that make me feel happy:
IDWK: her vocal sounds really happy to me, like she's smiling while she's singing them. Plus, there's CLAPPING, for God's sake, CLAPPING! (sorry, I'm a sucker for clapping. I also clap along to Jack & Diane and Take the Money & Run.)
SW: It sounds like she's remembering a great time in her life - like when you first meet someone & you get those butterflies, it's so exciting. And the video is great, love LB's antics & expressions.
That's Alright: Sounds pretty hopeful to me - "I hope you find a love, your own designs of love" Also empowering "I'm through waiting for you" and "I decided yesterday that I would leave you, I'm alright"
Paula
cliffdweller
06-09-2004, 11:37 AM
I never considred this a sad song. If anything, it's a very hopeful song. She's saying that she wishes someone's (let's not get into who that someone is :laugh: ) heart isn't broken because she'll be in their company again and forever eventually.
Yeah, but "Don't take me to the tower/and take my child away" just gets me every time. I guess it's hopeful by the end, but the first part of that song is a real tear-jerker.
I guess it could be read either way.
:wavey:
xdreamsunwindx
06-09-2004, 11:55 AM
Happy Songs-
Say You Will
Enchanted
Everyday
Angel
Juliet
Violet and Blue (not for the lyrics, but for the beat)
Sad Songs-
Gypsy (sadness covered up by a pop beat)
Doing the Best I Can
Storms
Beautiful Child
Silver Springs
The Highway Man
Goodbye Baby
I Miss You
Sleeping Angel
-Kate
TheBlueLamp
06-09-2004, 02:01 PM
Happiest:
Enchanted
If I Were You
If Anyone Falls
Sister Honey
Saddest:
Destiny
When I See You Again
Battle Of The Dragon
Kick It
Sara
I would have added Outside the Rain to the sad list but "Love is a word some entertain, If you find it, You have won the game" seems too happy/hopeful to make OTR one of the saddest.
Nick
terrivac
06-09-2004, 02:08 PM
Happiest: :)
1. Stand Back
2. Gypsy
Saddest: :(
1. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
2. Landslide
Terri
ryan8472
06-09-2004, 02:27 PM
Happiest:
Say You Will
Crystal (Even though it makes me cry sometimes!)
Enchanted
Angel
Saddest:
Beautiful Child
Beauty And The Beast
Storms
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
DeadliestPoison
06-09-2004, 03:35 PM
I'll just give 3 each.
Happy:
- Enchanted
- Say You Will
- Think About It
Sad:
- Space Needle
- Storms
- Beauty And The Beast
Friggin' PISSED:
- Stand Back
- Smile At You
- Nothing Ever Changes
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:40 PM
She's singing about being with her love for eternity in another life, because her destiny right now doesn't have it in the cards. When they were together in a beautiful setting, however, it was bliss and nothing else mattered. Even though they're no longer on the same path as each other, neither regrets what they had because it was beautiful while it lasted; even though it's over, they still have the memories. Sounds happy to moi.
Just look at the lyrics:
Maybe we were together in another life
Maybe we are together in a parallel universe
Maybe our paths are not supposed to cross twice
Maybe your arms are not supposed to go around me
When I see you again,
As I always do
It appears to me that
Destiny rules
And the spirits are ruthless with the paths they choose
It's not being together,
It's just following the rules
No one's a fool...
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
Just following the rules... no one's a fool
No one's a fool...
I never knew you cared for the line "When I see you again." ;)
I still disagree, but I understand what you mean now. Interesting. I guess the theme of compromise (I don't get to have you here, but maybe some other me does somewhere) just isn't happy at all to me.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:41 PM
I never considred this a sad song. If anything, it's a very hopeful song. She's saying that she wishes someone's (let's not get into who that someone is :laugh: ) heart isn't broken because she'll be in their company again and forever eventually.
Wow, I think this one is pretty sad. Not as sad as The Tower, but still sad. Maybe it's that I can't separate it from the reputed backstory.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:43 PM
Screw you, Jake.
Fine, but dinner's on you. ;) :sorry:
Thanks for explaining the choices.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:44 PM
Yeah, but "Don't take me to the tower/and take my child away" just gets me every time. I guess it's hopeful by the end, but the first part of that song is a real tear-jerker.
I guess it could be read either way.
:wavey:
I guess all of her sad songs except for Storms end on a hopeful glimmer.
- Jake
skcin
06-09-2004, 03:45 PM
Fine, but dinner's on you. ;) :sorry:
- Jake
Sure, no problem. Do you prefer McD's or Burger King's dollar menus?
Paula
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:46 PM
Gypsy (sadness covered up by a pop beat)
But my favorite is still the angry Petty version. I think the piano demo is sad. I think the album version is her sitting back reflecting.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:47 PM
Sister Honey
Good pick. One of her sillier sounding songs, along with Paper Doll.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:48 PM
Happiest: :)
1. Stand Back
2. Gypsy
Saddest: :(
1. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
2. Landslide
Terri
I never thought of HAEWAFY as sad (just super-sappy) until I heard the Walsh story.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:49 PM
Happiest:
Say You Will
Crystal (Even though it makes me cry sometimes!)
Enchanted
Angel
Saddest:
Beautiful Child
Beauty And The Beast
Storms
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You
I have a heart of stone. B & The B still doesn't touch my heart in the slightest. :shrug:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 03:50 PM
I'll just give 3 each.
Happy:
- Enchanted
- Say You Will
- Think About It
Sad:
- Space Needle
- Storms
- Beauty And The Beast
Friggin' PISSED:
- Stand Back
- Smile At You
- Nothing Ever Changes
If we're counting Friggin' Pissed, don't leave out Freedom.
- Jake
dissention
06-09-2004, 04:15 PM
How in the hell is Enchanted a happy song? :laugh:
"Crying in the morning
Trying to be strong
Waiting for the spring to turn into the fall
Love don't mean what it says at all
My destiny says that I'm destined to fall"
Makes me want to throw a party. ;)
dissention
06-09-2004, 04:18 PM
Wow, I think this one is pretty sad. Not as sad as The Tower, but still sad. Maybe it's that I can't separate it from the reputed backstory.
- Jake
Yeah, but the thing that gets me is that she doesn't regret anything, because she has faith that they'll be together eventually. And she doesn't just hammer it home at the end, she pushes it throughout the whole song. I think that's what it's all about; not grief, hope.
ryan8472
06-09-2004, 04:36 PM
How in the hell is Enchanted a happy song? :laugh:
"Crying in the morning
Trying to be strong
Waiting for the spring to turn into the fall
Love don't mean what it says at all
My destiny says that I'm destined to fall"
Makes me want to throw a party. ;)
:laugh:
I was thinking about if Enchanted was really a happy song or not. True some of the lyrics are pretty depressing, but at least the music is really upbeat :thumbsup:
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 05:24 PM
Sure, no problem. Do you prefer McD's or Burger King's dollar menus?
Paula
No fast food for me, thanks.
You give me fast food, in return you get fast...
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 05:25 PM
How in the hell is Enchanted a happy song? :laugh:
"Crying in the morning
Trying to be strong
Waiting for the spring to turn into the fall
Love don't mean what it says at all
My destiny says that I'm destined to fall"
Makes me want to throw a party. ;)
Some people are going by the sound.
To me a happy song has a happy sound and happy words.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 05:26 PM
Yeah, but the thing that gets me is that she doesn't regret anything, because she has faith that they'll be together eventually. And she doesn't just hammer it home at the end, she pushes it throughout the whole song. I think that's what it's all about; not grief, hope.
But the first few lines don't sound too hopeful, IMO.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 05:27 PM
:laugh:
I was thinking about if Enchanted was really a happy song or not. True some of the lyrics are pretty depressing, but at least the music is really upbeat :thumbsup:
So it's half happy. :shrug:
- Jake
cliffdweller
06-09-2004, 07:31 PM
How in the hell is Enchanted a happy song? :laugh:
"Crying in the morning
Trying to be strong
Waiting for the spring to turn into the fall
Love don't mean what it says at all
My destiny says that I'm destined to fall"
Makes me want to throw a party. ;)
Again, in a lot of instances, there tends to be a disconnect between the mood/tone/emotion of Stevie's lyrics and the music that accompanies those lyrics. For instance, Enchanted is one of the bounciest seemingly happiest tunes I've ever heard, yet the lyrics are a total 180 of the music. Same with Gypsy, and The Wild Heart etc...
So maybe the question should be: What are the happiest and saddest songs in terms of music and/or lyrics? Stevie doesn't make it easy for us to lump the two together.
Johnny Stew
06-09-2004, 07:49 PM
Stevie's saddest songs are easy to list... her happiest songs, however, require a lot of thought!
Happiest (Well, they make me happy at least):
1. Say You Will
2. Stand Back
3. Enchanted
4. Destiny Rules
5. Rooms On Fire
Saddest:
1. When I See You Again (is anyone really surprised?)
2. Battle Of The Dragon
3. She Still Loves Him (I know the feeling, Stevie)
4. Beauty And The Beast
5. Doing The Best That I Can
Hawkeye
06-09-2004, 08:12 PM
Happy Songs.
Angel (This has got to be THE happiest song of Stevie's)
Think About It from reissue (right on Angel's ass)
Say You Will
Fireflies
Long Distance Winner ( a very uplifting song to me)
Sad Songs
Storms
Races are Run
Beauty and the Beast
Goodbye Baby (this is VERY sad)
Doing the Best I Can
Goldfish and the Ladybug (They just COULDN't get together :laugh: )
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 08:47 PM
Again, in a lot of instances, there tends to be a disconnect between the mood/tone/emotion of Stevie's lyrics and the music that accompanies those lyrics. For instance, Enchanted is one of the bounciest seemingly happiest tunes I've ever heard, yet the lyrics are a total 180 of the music. Same with Gypsy, and The Wild Heart etc...
So maybe the question should be: What are the happiest and saddest songs in terms of music and/or lyrics? Stevie doesn't make it easy for us to lump the two together.
What, you can't handle a challenge? :)
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 08:50 PM
3. She Still Loves Him (I know the feeling, Stevie)
GREAT choice, Johnny. This is an all-time favorite.
But when you say you know the feeling, do you mean for Waddy or for Mick? :confused: :D
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-09-2004, 08:52 PM
Happy Songs.
Angel (This has got to be THE happiest song of Stevie's)
Think About It from reissue (right on Angel's ass)
Say You Will
Fireflies
Long Distance Winner ( a very uplifting song to me)
Sad Songs
Storms
Races are Run
Beauty and the Beast
Goodbye Baby (this is VERY sad)
Doing the Best I Can
Goldfish and the Ladybug (They just COULDN't get together :laugh: )
Goldfish should be a sad song, but to me it sounds like she's smiling all through the recording.
- Jake
skcin
06-09-2004, 08:59 PM
No fast food for me, thanks.
You give me fast food, in return you get fast...
- Jake
...bowel evacuation? :cool:
Paula
skcin
06-09-2004, 09:01 PM
Goldfish and the Ladybug (They just COULDN't get together :laugh: )
They couldn't, could they? :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress:
Paula
dissention
06-09-2004, 09:25 PM
4. Destiny Rules
There may be hope for you yet, Le Stew. ;)
I guess we're the only ones to think Destiny Rules is a happy song.
GypsySorcerer
06-09-2004, 10:26 PM
Happiest:
1) Say You Will
2) Think About It
3) Leather & Lace
4) I Don't Wanna Know (definitely the clapping)
Saddest:
1) Storms
2) Beautiful Child
3) Destiny
4) Rose Garden
5) Landslide
6) HAEWAFY
Hawkeye
06-09-2004, 11:01 PM
4) Rose Garden
yes that song is definitely sad, especially in the end.
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 05:20 AM
...bowel evacuation? :cool:
Paula
Only with a Happy Meal, Ronald McToilet. :xoxo:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 05:22 AM
They couldn't, could they? :distress: :distress: :distress: :distress:
Paula
Only in the alternate version where Ladybug has a thing for dead fish. ;) :sorry:
- RomanticJake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 05:25 AM
There may be hope for you yet, Le Stew. ;)
I guess we're the only ones to think Destiny Rules is a happy song.
And that WISYA should be performed on tour. :wavey:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 05:27 AM
Happiest:
1) Say You Will
2) Think About It
3) Leather & Lace
4) I Don't Wanna Know (definitely the clapping)
Saddest:
1) Storms
2) Beautiful Child
3) Destiny
4) Rose Garden
5) Landslide
6) HAEWAFY
I guess I can see Landslide as sad, though I'm inclined to think it wistful.
Leather And Lace is an interesting choice for happy.
- Jake
skcin
06-10-2004, 07:16 AM
Only in the alternate version where Ladybug has a thing for dead fish. ;) :sorry:
- RomanticJake
Necrofishilia? Well, our Stevie has never been one to shy away from taboo topics like dead fish love... :rolleyes:
Paula
dissention
06-10-2004, 08:26 AM
And that WISYA should be performed on tour. :wavey:
- Jake
My gagging reflexes would be in full swing.
Carolina Girl
06-10-2004, 09:18 AM
IDWK: her vocal sounds really happy to me, like she's smiling while she's singing them. Plus, there's CLAPPING, for God's sake, CLAPPING! (sorry, I'm a sucker for clapping. I also clap along to Jack & Diane and Take the Money & Run.)
I love this song! I thought it was written by Lindsey until just last week :o
I think this song would be great live, kind of like IKINW.
face of glass
06-10-2004, 09:27 AM
My gagging reflexes would be in full swing.
Come on, wouldn't you want "Landslide" to be thrown out for "WISYA"? It'd be an interesting experiment at least, and a change in the setlist, by gum! ;)
Who knows, maybe they would have done it on stage on the TITN tour if Lindsey had stayed.
Claudia
06-10-2004, 09:35 AM
Here's my list:
Happy (according to the lyrics or the beat):
-Listen to the Rain
-Rooms On Fire
-Sister Honey
-Unconditional Love
-Angel
Sad
-Destiny
-Goodbye Baby
-Doing the Best I Can (Escape from Berlin)
-I Miss You
strandinthewind
06-10-2004, 09:38 AM
I am in the minority I know (but in good company with broither Stew :wavey: ) when I say I would like to see WISYA live. I think she could bring out in a live performance the depth I already see somewhat hidden in that song. Also, the thought of her doing it with LB like the way they do SG is enticeing to me. Of course, I would edit out 2/3 of the "baby" repetition. :cool:
face of glass
06-10-2004, 09:41 AM
Of course, I would edit out 2/3 of the "baby" repetition. :cool:
*shudders when thinking of the backing vocalists doing those*
If they do it (and they should at least try it) then no "WISYA" cheek-kissing tradition should be established. We have the "Landslide" hug already. ;)
dissention
06-10-2004, 11:14 AM
Come on, wouldn't you want "Landslide" to be thrown out for "WISYA"? It'd be an interesting experiment at least, and a change in the setlist, by gum! ;)
Who knows, maybe they would have done it on stage on the TITN tour if Lindsey had stayed.
I shudder to think.
It's just a bad song, IMO, and they can't improve it by simply editing out the "Whassamattababay's" or singing it together onstage. The lyrics stink and Stevie would probably use it as an excuse to sing in a monotone voice. It would be a bore.
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:15 PM
Necrofishilia? Well, our Stevie has never been one to shy away from taboo topics like dead fish love... :rolleyes:
Paula
And the lady's feeling/Just like dead fish that she loves..."
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:16 PM
My gagging reflexes would be in full swing.
I don't buy it. You'd be doing the air guitar thing throughout. :nod:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:17 PM
I love this song! I thought it was written by Lindsey until just last week :o
I think this song would be great live, kind of like IKINW.
I think so too.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:20 PM
Come on, wouldn't you want "Landslide" to be thrown out for "WISYA"? It'd be an interesting experiment at least, and a change in the setlist, by gum! ;)
Who knows, maybe they would have done it on stage on the TITN tour if Lindsey had stayed.
No, Dissention wants the a capella version in concert, complete with extra "Babaaaay"s. :cool:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:22 PM
Here's my list:
Happy (according to the lyrics or the beat):
-Listen to the Rain
-Unconditional Love
Sad
-Destiny
Good picks. :thumbsup:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:23 PM
I am in the minority I know (but in good company with broither Stew :wavey: ) when I say I would like to see WISYA live. I think she could bring out in a live performance the depth I already see somewhat hidden in that song. Also, the thought of her doing it with LB like the way they do SG is enticeing to me. Of course, I would edit out 2/3 of the "baby" repetition. :cool:
I can see WISYA as the closer, but to be honest, I prefer Goodbye Baby.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:27 PM
*shudders when thinking of the backing vocalists doing those*
If they do it (and they should at least try it) then no "WISYA" cheek-kissing tradition should be established. We have the "Landslide" hug already. ;)
No, for sheer tackiness, the big screens could show the band members' baby pics each time she sings "babaaay." You know you want to hold a lighter up when you see Mick in a bonnet, right? :) Or they could show the Yorkies as puppies. :lol:
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 12:31 PM
I shudder to think.
It's just a bad song, IMO, and they can't improve it by simply editing out the "Whassamattababay's" or singing it together onstage. The lyrics stink and Stevie would probably use it as an excuse to sing in a monotone voice. It would be a bore.
Maybe I can convince her to sing the extended nine minute cleaning lady version of WISYA, complete with extra verses, just for you! Admit it, you can't be bored AND gagging. :shrug:
- Jake
skcin
06-10-2004, 02:52 PM
And the lady's feeling/Just like dead fish that she loves..."
- Jake
"...and you say/
I never thought I could/
Love a dead fish/
Come in, out of the water..."
Paula
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 04:06 PM
"...and you say/
I never thought I could/
Love a dead fish/
Come in, out of the water..."
Paula
"You can fry
Sizzling on your skillet
Flaring all the broilers
But you'll never feed me
My Tuna Helper
And we fight for the right white wine..."
- Jake
mylittledemon
06-10-2004, 09:47 PM
Saddest #1 for me would be "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You." I remember where I was the first time I heard this song. It was June of 1999 and I was moving from Chattanooga, TN to Little Rock, AR. I was so upset leaving my home I popped in TimeSpace. For some reason I had never listened to that song. I cried for about 15 minutes.
#2 "Silver Springs" The lyrics to this one alone tell the story. Its the perfect "break up" or "could have been" song.
#3 "Talk to Me" This somewhat upbeat sounding tune hides the sadness of it. The feel of it reminds me of "Missing You" by John Waite.
#4 "Reconsider Me" This song upsets me everytime I hear it. Stevie is practically begging at the end of it. It's pitiful...
Happiest?
#1 Say You Will, #2 Stand Back, #3 Blue Denim (its not a "great" tune, but she's in love and its happy)
darklinensuit
06-10-2004, 11:17 PM
Saddest #1 for me would be "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You." I remember where I was the first time I heard this song. It was June of 1999 and I was moving from Chattanooga, TN to Little Rock, AR. I was so upset leaving my home I popped in TimeSpace. For some reason I had never listened to that song. I cried for about 15 minutes.
#2 "Silver Springs" The lyrics to this one alone tell the story. Its the perfect "break up" or "could have been" song.
#3 "Talk to Me" This somewhat upbeat sounding tune hides the sadness of it. The feel of it reminds me of "Missing You" by John Waite.
#4 "Reconsider Me" This song upsets me everytime I hear it. Stevie is practically begging at the end of it. It's pitiful...
Happiest?
#1 Say You Will, #2 Stand Back, #3 Blue Denim (its not a "great" tune, but she's in love and its happy)
I think of Talk To Me as a somewhat happy song. The lyrics express frustration, but the sound is pretty upbeat, just like almost everything on RAL.
- Jake
Johnny Stew
06-11-2004, 01:09 AM
"Talk to Me" This somewhat upbeat sounding tune hides the sadness of it. The feel of it reminds me of "Missing You" by John Waite.
I get the feeling you didn't know this, so you were really perceptive with the "Missing You" connection... "Talk To Me" was written by Chas Sandford, who co-wrote "Missing You" with John Waite. :nod: :)
darklinensuit
06-11-2004, 01:25 AM
I get the feeling you didn't know this, so you were really perceptive with the "Missing You" connection... "Talk To Me" was written by Chas Sandford, who co-wrote "Missing You" with John Waite. :nod: :)
I assumed Mylittledemon knew this, or else the connection between the two songs was quite an amazing observation.
- Jake
xdreamsunwindx
06-11-2004, 03:02 AM
But my favorite is still the angry Petty version. I think the piano demo is sad. I think the album version is her sitting back reflecting.
- Jake
Ooh. I need to hear this. I read somewhere that it had a slight Blondie sound to it, and that really piqued my interest. Plus, if its Stevie collaborating with TP&THB, then it mhas to be great. I'll have to request this on one of the FM download sites soon :thumbsup:.
-Kate
Kelly
06-11-2004, 08:22 AM
HAPPIEST:
1. Say You Will
2. Without You
3. Angel
4. Think About It
5. Paper Doll
SADDEST:
1. Blue Denim~~ IMHO, one of her saddest songs EVER
2. Bombay Sapphires (I know Stevie says the "I can see past you" line is supposed to be hopeful, but I hear an incredible sadness in these lyrics, as if she is trying very hard to convince herself that she can indeed, move on)
3. Silver Springs~ no explanation necessary
4. Goodbye Baby--- it would be hopeful, if I did not always think of the backstory when listening to it.
5. Storms--- gut wrenchingly so.
6. Stand Back (yes, musically it kicks ass but my interpretation of her lyrics makes me feel it is really a very sad song, very troubled, with alot of fear, confusion, anger and a sense of being abandoned emotionally running through it. To me, that is all very sad.
mylittledemon
06-11-2004, 11:01 AM
Who the hell is that? haha. Never heard of the guy. I have heard of John Waite and Stevie Nicks though...
darklinensuit
06-11-2004, 01:04 PM
Ooh. I need to hear this. I read somewhere that it had a slight Blondie sound to it, and that really piqued my interest. Plus, if its Stevie collaborating with TP&THB, then it mhas to be great. I'll have to request this on one of the FM download sites soon :thumbsup:.
-Kate
I'm the one who keeps pointing out the Blondie sound. I'm not sure if the true Blondie fans agree.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-11-2004, 01:05 PM
HAPPIEST:
1. Say You Will
2. Without You
3. Angel
4. Think About It
5. Paper Doll
SADDEST:
1. Blue Denim~~ IMHO, one of her saddest songs EVER
2. Bombay Sapphires (I know Stevie says the "I can see past you" line is supposed to be hopeful, but I hear an incredible sadness in these lyrics, as if she is trying very hard to convince herself that she can indeed, move on)
3. Silver Springs~ no explanation necessary
4. Goodbye Baby--- it would be hopeful, if I did not always think of the backstory when listening to it.
5. Storms--- gut wrenchingly so.
6. Stand Back (yes, musically it kicks ass but my interpretation of her lyrics makes me feel it is really a very sad song, very troubled, with alot of fear, confusion, anger and a sense of being abandoned emotionally running through it. To me, that is all very sad.
To me the sadness of Blue Denim is in her voice. She sounds klike she's about to crack from misery.
- Jake
AliceLover
06-11-2004, 02:34 PM
I am surprised no one has said alic eyet for one of the saddest.
"Like alice through the Looking Glass. She used to know who she was"
Stevie looking through a mirror saying how she used to know who she was obsviously. Very sad to me.
Jimmy
Johnny Stew
06-11-2004, 02:35 PM
Who the hell is that? haha. Never heard of the guy. I have heard of John Waite and Stevie Nicks though...
Chas Sandford (sometimes credited as Chas Sanford) isn't too famous, so it's unlikely you would have heard of him... he's a songwriter/musician/producer out of Nashville, and other than Stevie & John Waite, he's worked with Chicago, Bette Midler, Roger Daltry, Berlin, and others. :)
darklinensuit
06-11-2004, 02:38 PM
I am surprised no one has said alic eyet for one of the saddest.
"Like alice through the Looking Glass. She used to know who she was"
Stevie looking through a mirror saying how she used to know who she was obsviously. Very sad to me.
Jimmy
I don't feel it, I guess. For a long time Alice was my least favorite Stevie song. Oh well.
I guess you could make a similar case for Real Tears.
- Jake
dissention
06-11-2004, 02:46 PM
I guess you could make a similar case for Real Tears.
That song never did anything for me. It's probably due to it sounding like a demo more than a studio track. I remember a few radio interviews back from when it was released where people said they loved it, though. I never got it, I guess.
Johnny Stew
06-11-2004, 02:54 PM
That song never did anything for me. It's probably due to it sounding like a demo more than a studio track. I remember a few radio interviews back from when it was released where people said they loved it, though. I never got it, I guess.
I think I've mentioned that my mother tends to prefer Lindsey's music (her other faves: The Beatles, Paul McCartney solo, Tears For Fears, Simply Red & Seal)... but her two favorite Stevie songs are Illume and Real Tears.
golddustwoman77
06-12-2004, 02:30 PM
I think it is hard to pick happy, Stevie songs. :) I think most of Stevie's songs have at least a sad undercurrent, so let's start with the saddest.
Saddest with the Mac
1. Storms
2. Silver Springs
3. Beautiful Child
4. Sister of the Moon
5. Landslide
6. Sara
7. Dreams
Saddest Solo
1. If You Ever Did Believe
2. Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You
3. Reconsider Me
4. Love Is
5. Wild Heart
6. After the Glitter Fades
Happiest with the Mac
1. Angel
2. Gypsy
3. Say You Will
Happiest Solo
1. Candlebright
2. If Anyone Falls
3. Rooms on Fire
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darklinensuit
06-12-2004, 09:22 PM
That song never did anything for me. It's probably due to it sounding like a demo more than a studio track. I remember a few radio interviews back from when it was released where people said they loved it, though. I never got it, I guess.
IMO the song isn't bad but it's not her best vocal.
- Jake
darklinensuit
06-12-2004, 09:25 PM
Saddest Solo
1. If You Ever Did Believe
Happiest Solo
1. Candlebright
I think IYEDB has some sad lyrics but a bouncy sound that does not match up. I'd love to hear your explanation of Candlebright, because to me that song isn't especially happy at all. :wavey:
- Jake
Hawkeye
06-12-2004, 10:58 PM
I think Candlebright is a VERY happy song.
golddustwoman77
06-13-2004, 11:02 AM
I think IYEDB has some sad lyrics but a bouncy sound that does not match up. I'd love to hear your explanation of Candlebright, because to me that song isn't especially happy at all. :wavey:
- Jake
I did say in my previous post that it was going to be difficult to find a totally happy, Stevie song. :laugh:
Anyway, here was my take on Candlebright, and why I thought it was overall a happy song. The person she is writing this about understands her, and they except her for who she is----a woman who spends most of her life traveling. But regardless, they make things right for her whether this person is with her or only with her in her mind.-----For no special reason I am leaving you for awhile tonight I'm flying far above you Still I love you You make things right
Also, this person always has a way of leading her back home, and keeping her grounded----You're my candlebright in the window You guide me back again She write that I can't feel bad about them not having the relationship that she would like, because she is gone a lot. She know is doing all she can, and she seems to be at peace with that. I know in the lyrics that it says you are not my friend, but she could mean that this person is more than a friend to her. :shrug:
But I also see a different take on this song, as well. This song could be about someone that she really cares about, but they don't quite feel the same way she does. She knows this, but they keep pulling her back in. She loves them in spite of herself. But if that is the interpretation, she seems to understand it and be at peace with it. It is like she is taking the relationship as it is, and believing in the good parts which help her through life on the road. She seems to have a positive outlook on the situation regardless. Therefore, if this is the true interpretation, it is still has a somewhat positive message.
Also, Candlebright has a pleasant, upbeat, musical backing, which helps with the pleasantness (Pleasantness---is that a word?!) :lol: of the song.
This is why music is left up to interpretation, huh?! :lol:
Here are the lyrics for reread, if you would like:
For no special reason
I am leaving you for awhile tonight
I'm flying far above you
Still I love you
You make things right
Chorus:
I've been with you before
I'll be with you again
I'll come back for more, yea
The story has a strange ending
Well, you know me I'm a nomad
I can't feel bad
About the way I am
I've been rolling around
My whole life
You're my candlebright in the window
Chorus:
You guide me back again
And I come when you shine
You are not my friend, no
But I am something of a dreamer
I am something of a dreamer
I am something of a dreamer
(Repeat verse and Chorus)
Still I love you
My candlebright
You are not my friend
But still I love you
You're my candlebright
Still I love you
But you are not my friend
But still I love you
I can't feel bad
golddustwoman77
06-13-2004, 11:18 AM
I think Candlebright is a VERY happy song.
Thanks for the back up, Hawkeye! :xoxo:
darklinensuit
06-13-2004, 11:41 AM
I did say in my previous post that it was going to be difficult to find a totally happy, Stevie song. :laugh:
Anyway, here was my take on Candlebright, and why I thought it was overall a happy song. The person she is writing this about understands her, and they except her for who she is----a woman who spends most of her life traveling. But regardless, they make things right for her whether this person is with her or only with her in her mind.-----For no special reason I am leaving you for awhile tonight I'm flying far above you Still I love you You make things right
Also, this person always has a way of leading her back home, and keeping her grounded----You're my candlebright in the window You guide me back again She write that I can't feel bad about them not having the relationship that she would like, because she is gone a lot. She know is doing all she can, and she seems to be at peace with that. I know in the lyrics that it says you are not my friend, but she could mean that this person is more than a friend to her. :shrug:
But I also see a different take on this song, as well. This song could be about someone that she really cares about, but they don't quite feel the same way she does. She knows this, but they keep pulling her back in. She loves them in spite of herself. But if that is the interpretation, she seems to understand it and be at peace with it. It is like she is taking the relationship as it is, and believing in the good parts which help her through life on the road. She seems to have a positive outlook on the situation regardless. Therefore, if this is the true interpretation, it is still has a somewhat positive message.
Also, Candlebright has a pleasant, upbeat, musical backing, which helps with the pleasantness (Pleasantness---is that a word?!) :lol: of the song.
This is why music is left up to interpretation, huh?! :lol:
Here are the lyrics for reread, if you would like:
For no special reason
I am leaving you for awhile tonight
I'm flying far above you
Still I love you
You make things right
Chorus:
I've been with you before
I'll be with you again
I'll come back for more, yea
The story has a strange ending
Well, you know me I'm a nomad
I can't feel bad
About the way I am
I've been rolling around
My whole life
You're my candlebright in the window
Chorus:
You guide me back again
And I come when you shine
You are not my friend, no
But I am something of a dreamer
I am something of a dreamer
I am something of a dreamer
(Repeat verse and Chorus)
Still I love you
My candlebright
You are not my friend
But still I love you
You're my candlebright
Still I love you
But you are not my friend
But still I love you
I can't feel bad
Thanks for the explanation. I'm still on the fence about the mood, though.
And BTW, Pleasantness is my middle name. :nod: :cool:
- Jake
golddustwoman77
06-13-2004, 11:57 AM
Thanks for the explanation. I'm still on the fence about the mood, though.
And BTW, Pleasantness is my middle name. :nod: :cool:
- Jake
Nice, middle name! :thumbsup: Thanks for the "pleasant" reply. :D
skcin
06-13-2004, 06:12 PM
"You can fry
Sizzling on your skillet
Flaring all the broilers
But you'll never feed me
My Tuna Helper
And we fight for the right white wine..."
- Jake
"...No red meat here
this is the fish aisle
it's just the way that it is here
and you say...I never thought it could
be so tasty
and we fight for good recipes..."
Paula
darklinensuit
06-13-2004, 06:54 PM
"...No red meat here
this is the fish aisle
it's just the way that it is here
and you say...I never thought it could
be so tasty
and we fight for good recipes..."
Paula
"You are in butter
And I'm ready to glaze
Its lemon peeling
Sort of covers your smell
My tuna helper..."
- Jake
skcin
06-14-2004, 07:52 AM
"...and the woman may be so grossed out
and the woman may truly gag
but the woman is so tired
Oh, the woman cooks anyway
Come in, out of the water
My Tuna Helper...so grooooooosssss..."
dissention
06-14-2004, 08:42 AM
Shit, I'd hate to share the mic with Stevie during Edge of 17, folks. *gag*
darklinensuit
06-14-2004, 11:14 AM
"...and the woman may be so grossed out
and the woman may truly gag
but the woman is so tired
Oh, the woman cooks anyway
Come in, out of the water
My Tuna Helper...so grooooooosssss..."
"Tempura goldfish...flops on your plate
With hesitation...Which fork? ...you say...
You have a ladybug...crawling towards her mate...
And, yes...it makes you want to spew..."
- Jake
skcin
06-14-2004, 04:00 PM
"Tempura goldfish...flops on your plate
With hesitation...Which fork? ...you say...
You have a ladybug...crawling towards her mate...
And, yes...it makes you want to spew..."
- Jake
Hahaha :laugh: That's it! I'm out, I can't keep up with you!
paula
darklinensuit
06-14-2004, 04:06 PM
Hahaha :laugh: That's it! I'm out, I can't keep up with you!
paula
Ya big quitter. ;)
- Jake
dissention
06-14-2004, 04:43 PM
"I ate it the other day
Cooked it again yesterday
I wonder if it's chicken or fish
The foul smell offends my septum"
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