The Christine McVie video

[Villavic]

I didn't know this existed. I jsut found it at amazon.com, on vhs format. I guess it contains songs from her last solo album. Though the only video I remember is Got a hold on me.

Starring: Christine Mcvie, See more
Format: NTSC
Rated: NR
Studio: Umvd
Video Release Date: March 17, 1992

Did anyone know about it? what other songs it contains?

[Villavic]

the same as her last album

[Jessica]

Are we talking about the Christine Mcvie Concert or Christine McVie: The Video Album?

[macfan 57]

I believe what you're referring to is:Christine McVie, The Video Album. Here is the track listing:

Love Will Show Us How
Keeping Secrets
The Challenge
Who's Dreaming This Dream?
I'm The One
So Excited
Got A Hold One Me
One In A Million
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
World Turning
Songbird

"Love Will Show Us How" & "Got A Hold On Me" are the original videos that ran on MTV years ago. The Love Will Show Us How video is very bizarre, by the way. The rest of the songs are from a live concert that she recorded for a later MTV broadcast back in Dec. 1983 before her album was released. Billy Burnette was in her band and Mick even made an appearance near the end. This video is currently out of print, but pops up on eBay & Amazon Marketplace from time to time.

[jwd]

As much as I love Chris as a singer and songwriter, I found this video to be very boring. Chris' stage presence isn't nearly as dynamic as Stevie's or Lindsey's. Or maybe it's the setlist. Pretty much straight off her '84 compilation with a few FM hits tagged on at the end. She could've, should've mixed it up a bit. I know Chris prefers to be behind her keyboards and not center stage, but how about putting them in a more prominent part of the stage, or even elevating them a little at an angle.....my mind drifts off to "The Love Will Show Us How" video. On second thought, never mind. :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

The video is a little boring. I think mainly because the song list isn't mixed up well enough. BUT, the main magic of FM was always CM, LB, and SN, all doing their best stuff, and backing the others on theirs.
Which, of course, is why the current version doesn't turn me on much! :p

[Janet]

:(

Lindsey did say her show was like an lounge act. He said that about Stevie too though, eek!

I love Love Will Show Us How and Got A Hold On Me. They are adorable and I love to watch them:)

I have a part of Christine's live show from MTV and an interview...but I never knew that video compilation exsisted! Cool.

[chiliD]

How much "stage presence" can you have when standing/sitting behind keyboards? I don't see Christine's personality lending itself to jumping around like Elton John or Jerry Lee Lewis.

[macfan 57]

I don't see Christine's personality lending itself to jumping around like Elton John or Jerry Lee Lewis.

And, thank God for that. :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

How much "stage presence" can you have when standing/sitting behind keyboards? I don't see Christine's personality lending itself to jumping around like Elton John or Jerry Lee Lewis.

Plus, this was an informal sort of deal (private party). I saw this tour and it was much more lively on the road!

[David]

Plus, this was an informal sort of deal (private party). I saw this tour and it was much more lively on the road!I saw what I think was the last night. Was Los Angeles the last night?

I'll tell you what I'd like. Here's what I'd like. I'd like to get a laserdisc-to-DVD transfer of that video because the VHS contained Got a Hold on Me & Love Will Show Us How short-form videos, while the laserdisc contained the live performances of those two songs.

That was one of the dumber marketing moves in my experience.

On an unrelated note, I think that lounge act comment of Lindsey's has sort of been taken out of context. I think he was referring primarily not to the inclusion of Fleetwood Mac songs in these solo sets but to the overreliance (as he saw it) on the artistic vibe Fleetwood Mac built up over the years. In other words, I think he would have been more jazzed if his bandmates had made a more individual statement that stood apart from whatever it was that he considered the Fleetwood Mac statement. Certainly, by the time he toured solo (about 9 or 10 years later), he felt that many of his Fleetwood Mac songs deserved a place in his set.

It was always somewhat of a puzzling comment. At the time he made it, I wasn't even aware that he had been to see a Stevie Nicks solo show -- he never showed up to any of her L.A. appearances (of which there were only about six or seven at the time he made this comment). He did show up to Christine's show at Universal, but the concert was well past half over by the time he got there.

I betcha he never actually saw a Stevie Nicks concert in those days. He probably just caught the HBO special on TV.

[jbrownsjr]

I believe Los Angeles was the final night. It started with the video in Reseda, (can't remember the club). I saw this tour in Cleveland and her Todd Sharp, Hawkins were bouncin all over the place. They were hitting the champagne pretty hard the whole show.

I remember Hold Me being better than the FM version live. This Smile I Live for was haunting. I remember the show being much better than the video.

[Johnny Stew]

On an unrelated note, I think that lounge act comment of Lindsey's has sort of been taken out of context. I think he was referring primarily not to the inclusion of Fleetwood Mac songs in these solo sets but to the overreliance (as he saw it) on the artistic vibe Fleetwood Mac built up over the years. In other words, I think he would have been more jazzed if his bandmates had made a more individual statement that stood apart from whatever it was that he considered the Fleetwood Mac statement.

That's a very good possibility.

I think the major difference between Lindsey's desire for a solo career and that of Christine & Stevie, is that the girls never really seemed to feel that they were being stifled creatively within Fleetwood Mac, whereas Lindsey certainly did.

Stevie has always cited the desire to release more than 3 or 4 songs every couple of years, as the single most important reason for embarking on her solo career.

And I'm not sure that Christine has ever given any other reason for recording her 1984 solo album, other than that it "seemed like a good time," and was pretty much expected of her.

So in Stevie's case, at least, being able to delve a little bit into an artistic territory that she may not have been able to explore in Fleetwood Mac, was just a happy bi-product of the solo career, but was never the main impetus.
Whereas for Lindsey, exploring new musical territory was pretty much the one and only reason he ever began a solo career.

Which makes sense as to why he'd be unimpressed by the ladies' solo endeavors, or to feel they gave off a "lounge act" vibe.
Though I still think that was an unfair comment, because it was Christine & Stevie's right to stay within the musical framework they were happy with. :)

[Johnny Stew]

In regards to Christine's live video... I have to admit that I agree, it is somewhat boring (for lack of a better word).
As has been said, it's hard to have a huge amount of stage presence when you're behind the keyboards, unless you're going to ham it up the way Elton and Jerry Lee do.
But that's not our Christine, and thankfully so.

A Rolling Stone reviewer once stated that Christine functions best as the "calm within the storm," and I believe that's true. Her genteel nature was always a breath of fresh air, when surrounded by the stormy intensity of Buckingham & Nicks. But, alone, there's the danger of that fresh air going stale (just as there's always the danger of Lindsey & Stevie's personalities becoming burdensome without Christine to balance them).

But maybe a more varied setlist would have alleviated that. :shrug:

[Jessica]

Which makes sense as to why he'd be unimpressed by the ladies' solo endeavors, or to feel they gave off a "lounge act" vibe.
Though I still think that was an unfair comment, because it was Christine & Stevie's right to stay within the musical framework they were happy with. :)

I've always kind of thought that was a pretty condescending remark, but all that aside.....I can understand why he might describe Christine that way, but not Stevie.

Don't get me wrong, I like listening to her 1984 solo effort and the live performances were enjoyable to see/hear (even if the video was less than exciting). She'd be a damned good lounge act, though.

Having personally witnessed the kind of solo show Stevie puts on (as well as the WWD video, etc.), I just don't think I could liken her to a lounge act. But, watching the Boston show on PBS, I couldn't help but find her ever so slightly pathetic nowadays. That's not a popular opinion, but I couldn't shake that thought throughout the program.

I don't underestimate the hefty contribution Lindsey has made to what I love about FM's music, but Christine and Stevie were always the attraction for me. Cheesy as it is, I totally enjoy the Tango video and don't miss LB. I had little interest in catching this tour without CM.

From my perspective, he has an overinflated opinion of himself. I see the point about creativity, really I do. Admittedly, I have not seen much LB solo stuff, but what I have seen begs the question, how far removed from lounge act was a Lindsey Buckingham solo show?

[face of glass]

Though I still think that was an unfair comment, because it was Christine & Stevie's right to stay within the musical framework they were happy with. :)
Let's not forget that it was Stevie's stage act that most closely resembled a Broadway show (and it isn't all that different from what Fleetwood Mac are doing now), a thing where people might as well forget about the music and focus on the stage actions. That must have been a hard beef to bite for Lindsey.
Admittedly, I have not seen much LB solo stuff, but what I have seen begs the question, how far removed from lounge act was a Lindsey Buckingham solo show?
Like David said, that tour took place 9-10 years after the original comment. By that time Lindsey's attitude had obviously changed, he obviously felt the need to make the stage sound more perfect and full overall, unlike the Fleetwood Mac stage shows before the Shake The Cage tour. Obviously some of the complaints about FM's sound being disappointing on stage for some people (because they didn't sound like they did on the albums) had got to his head by then.

[Johnny Stew]

Let's not forget that it was Stevie's stage act that most closely resembled a Broadway show (and it isn't all that different from what Fleetwood Mac are doing now), a thing where people might as well forget about the music and focus on the stage actions. That must have been a hard beef to bite for Lindsey.

I know it's been said that the rest of FM were at times embarrassed by Stevie's onstage antics, but I've never understood why.

Sure, the "rock & roll ballerina" thing, with all of the twirling and scarves, was probably a little more "fluff" than they were comfortable with, but it added a visual element that helped prevent the proceedings from being just a standard run-of-the-mill rock concert. So when coupled with the sublime music they were creating, Stevie's image was one of the things that propelled them to "supergroup" status.

Any artist that hits it big, owes their success partly to their music and partly to whatever image they project. And no matter what the most erudite of critics might think of you, it's the buying public that decides your fate.
It's just the way it goes, and I've never understood fighting it or bemoaning it.

The funny and ironic thing is, these days Stevie has toned all of that stuff down, while Lindsey has amped up his own stage antics!

[macfan 57]

I saw what I think was the last night. Was Los Angeles the last night?

I'll tell you what I'd like. Here's what I'd like. I'd like to get a laserdisc-to-DVD transfer of that video because the VHS contained Got a Hold on Me & Love Will Show Us How short-form videos, while the laserdisc contained the live performances of those two songs.


I have the original video album as well as the laserdisc copied to videotape. I believe it's the entire laserdisc footage. There is a documentary of the making of her album & a shortened version of the show that she recorded at the Reseda Country Club. "Got A Hold On Me" & "Love Will Show Us How" are not on there, either the short-form videos or the live versions. I do have a CDR of the Reseda show & it does have the live versions of those 2 songs plus "Say You Love Me" & "Over My Head" as well as the rest of the songs that are on the video album. Maybe I don't have the complete footage from the laserdisc afterall.

The Reseda show was not a part of her tour. It was a promo for her album & was broadcast later on MTV. She was trying to promote her new album. That's why most of the songs from her new album were on the video plus a few of her Fleetwood Mac hits. She did vary the set list for her later tour. She even did a few songs from the Bob Welch/Fleetwood Mac years. I agree about "Hold Me". That song was better on her solo tour than on the Mirage tour. I would have preferred to see "Hold Me" on the video instead of "World Turning". I liked her show from her tour better than the video. But, I still don't find the video boring. I'm biased, but I don't find anything boring about Christine McVie. :)

[jbrownsjr]

I blame the director of the video. The cameras, lighting and sound were pretty average. This show was not boring per se, it was the presentation.


On a side note, (this is too funny) when LB did his OTTC tour I saw him in a lounge!

It was in Cleveland called Peabody's! :lol: I love LB, but he is always putting his foot in his mouth. Even now he does. But he is a damn fine guitarist! It was a great show!

When he left FM he claimed they were stale and he had to do all the work. When Chris left FMac he claims they now are able to do what they want and it's refreshing after 25 years. When Stevie did her solo stuff he made various comments about her stage show and the way she writes. IMHO he's resented the fact that he is always outsold by the other two's work (moreso by Stevie), so he will qualify that he is a better musician.

I wish I could fail as miserably as he has! :laugh: