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ricohv
12-15-2003, 09:28 AM
because she doesn't have a baby, or something like that. I think it was 1989 while touring/promoting OSOTM (?). I've seen it mentioned several times in articles etc. but never with much detail. It seems like it is one of those "points of interest" in Stevie's career that comes up now and again but I'm always in the dark!
Ricoh

dissention
12-15-2003, 10:26 AM
The cameras were shut off per Stevie's request, but it was printed in the papers. Someone on the BuckinghamNicks.net forum posted the actual article a few months back, try checking there. It isn't on the Nicks Fix...I've looked. :laugh:

Gypsy-Rhiannon
12-15-2003, 10:46 AM
If it is the one I'm thinking about I have it on video. It's called One on One and she is interviewed by Annie Nightingale

Pip

AliP
12-15-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by trackaghost

Reformed alcoholic and junkie Nicks, 41,


hmmm, well that's kinda harsh! I never thought she was an alcoholic or a junkie - reminds me of someone shooting up on the street or something :(

Stevie was not happy during the TOSOTM tour. I have a few interviews with her on CD and video and in every one she seems so sad. She even said in one that she had not been really happy for a couple of years. I really felt bad for her. I'm glad that things have turned around for her though.

darklinensuit
12-15-2003, 06:09 PM
I think this story testifies to Stevie's enormous talent to convey emotion, even to the point of making strangers feel what she feels. Amazing that she can do it without music.

- Jake

strandinthewind
12-15-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by darklinensuit
I think this story testifies to Stevie's enormous talent to convey emotion, even to the point of making strangers feel what she feels. Amazing that she can do it without music.

- Jake

Amen!!!!!!

dissention
12-16-2003, 08:02 AM
Anyone remember that German press conference where Stevie was a super bitch? :eek:

I have that one on video and it's shocking!!

strandinthewind
12-16-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by dissention
Anyone remember that German press conference where Stevie was a super bitch? :eek:

I have that one on video and it's shocking!!

Please send :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

moo300@aol.com

dissention
12-16-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
Please send :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

moo300@aol.com

No, it's on videotape. :(

I can tell you what happened, though:

Stevie gave a press conference in Germany (I think) to promote OSOTM and a reporter asked about her stay in Betty Ford. She paused for about ten seconds with a shocked look on her face and snapped "I don't wanna talk about that, okay!" and shook her head, all the while giving a look that could kill. Then her manager said something to the effect of no questions about it and Stevie was oh-so-pissed. She didn't smile once after it and forcefully answered the rest of the questions.

golden braid
12-16-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by dissention
Anyone remember that German press conference where Stevie was a super bitch? :eek:

I have that one on video and it's shocking!!

What did she do? Nevermind. You already answered. We must have posted at te same time. :)

strandinthewind
12-16-2003, 02:27 PM
Thanks anyway :(

There was another interview where she got pissed. It was after Mick's book was out and I want to say aroung the Timespace record. When asked about her affair with Mick, she gave this look of death and was like "its already out there, its already been discussed. I have nothing to say" or something like that. Does anyone else remember seeing this?

strandinthewind
12-16-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by trackaghost
I have an article from the Mail On Sunday's magazine You published in 1989 where she gives a very detailed description of what it was like in Betty Ford.
I'll have to dig it out... well, if anyone is interested.

Are you kidding - get it out and post it :laugh: !!!!!!!!!

Johnny Stew
12-16-2003, 03:44 PM
During the 'Timespace' era, I always got a chuckle out of how Stevie would only refer to Mick as "Mr. Fleetwood."

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! :laugh:


One thing I have to say about that entire era, is that it's very interesting to see Stevie with the gloves off, so to speak.
She's obviously so unhappy, and in some ways it's scary to see her so bitter and miserable.
But unlike Christine and Lindsey, up to that time Stevie had never really said anything less than flattering about Fleetwood Mac or her bandmates. Even when they were publically questioning her commitment to the group, or Lindsey was referring to her concerts (and Christine's) as a "lounge act," or when Christine said a lot of what Stevie writes is "rubbish" (referring to the unreleased material), Stevie continued to praise them.
She'd go on and on about how much she loved being a part of Fleetwood Mac... how Christine was like a big sister/best friend to her... how talented and creative Lindsey is, etc.

And you know, I might be the only person who has this opinion, but I always kind of felt that Stevie was a little insecure about her place in Fleetwood Mac, and maybe worried that she could be replaced at any given time.

So the 'Timespace' era was kind of like Stevie saying, "ok, I'm done sugar-coating now... I'm going to tell you all the things I never dared tell you before."

Granted, I don't think she ever would have said half the things she said (which, when you REALLY look at it, weren't really all THAT bad anyway), if it weren't for the Klonopin.

But she sure does get a lot of flack for this era. Perhaps because it's truly the only time in her career that anyone can point to, where Stevie is being less than sweet-natured.
Even John McVie seemed to have his feathers ruffled by Stevie's attitude... "She seems to think we're the enemy now."
(I always wondered what he thought of Lindsey continually referring to them as "that band/that group," when he left, and talking about how being a part of Fleetwood Mac held him back, etc.)

I think when someone is always so kind and is always so complimentary, when they actually say something less than kind, it hits people so much harder because they don't expect it.
Almost like the castaways on the most recent 'Survivor' taking Scoutmaster Lil to task for lying and back-stabbing, when every single one of them did the same thing. But they held her up to a different set of standards, because they had a notion of how she should conduct herself.

Maybe the same thing happens with Stevie. Because people were not used to her "bitching," it takes them by surprise, and perhaps even disappoints them in some twisted way (as if Stevie isn't allowed to be human, and complain or be unhappy).

Anyway, those are my rambling thoughts, and I'm so happy she was able to kick the Klonopin addiction, and move past that unhappiness and torment. :)

trackaghost
12-16-2003, 04:23 PM
Neil has now posted this article on his site, here:

http://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/articles/archive/SNart013.html

It's not as detailed as I remembered but still a good read.

Pisces Queen
12-16-2003, 04:56 PM
Thank you so much for posting that article. Thank you!!!! :wavey:

Les
12-16-2003, 05:07 PM
I gotta disagree with you Johnny. I know you love Stevie to death and you don't like to see anyone be critical of her, particularly in her rough times. But I don't agree that she never had anything but praise for the band before her Klonopin years. She had her moments of being angry with them, and her moments of being publically disappointed in them, and her moments of questioning their choices, and questioning their committment. Perhaps in a somewhat passive aggressive style, her criticisms of them tended to take the form of telling stories on them to have the public believe they were always mean to her, more than they were direct insults. But she still made her displeasure clear. You might say she was justified in her story-telling, and maybe she was, but I don't see where she was particularly more justified to be displeased with them than they were with her sometimes. It was expressed a little differently, but the message was still clear.

She was far more blunt in her Klonopin years which is probably what strikes people, but I think she was more than human, like the rest of them, in some of the years preceding and following Klonopin too. Sorry, I guess I get a little tired of hearing it was always everyone else who were the bad guys saying harsh things, or how whatever she did at a certain point, it can't be as bad as what so-and-so did at this point.

They got mad at each other. They sometimes sniped at each other. There's nothing really wrong with it. It happens. They've all had moments of not seeming so fantastically great to be around, but it doesn't last forever, and (knock on wood) they've all lived through it. ;)

strandinthewind
12-16-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Les
I gotta disagree with you Johnny. I know you love Stevie to death and you don't like to see anyone be critical of her, particularly in her rough times. But I don't agree that she never had anything but praise for the band before her Klonopin years. She had her moments of being angry with them, and her moments of being publically disappointed in them, and her moments of questioning their choices, and questioning their committment. Perhaps in a somewhat passive aggressive style, her criticisms of them tended to take the form of telling stories on them to have the public believe they were always mean to her, more than they were direct insults. But she still made her displeasure clear. You might say she was justified in her story-telling, and maybe she was, but I don't see where she was particularly more justified to be displeased with them than they were with her sometimes. It was expressed a little differently, but the message was still clear.

She was far more blunt in her Klonopin years which is probably what strikes people, but I think she was more than human, like the rest of them, in some of the years preceding and following Klonopin too. Sorry, I guess I get a little tired of hearing it was always everyone else who were the bad guys saying harsh things, or how whatever she did at a certain point, it can't be as bad as what so-and-so did at this point.

They got mad at each other. They sometimes sniped at each other. There's nothing really wrong with it. It happens. They've all had moments of not seeming so fantastically great to be around, but it doesn't last forever, and (knock on wood) they've all lived through it. ;)

I second JS in remembering Stevie always as the hopeful one that never really overtly bashed anyone, except LB when they broke up and even then - "When the rain washes you clean - you'll know" as opposed to "packin up shackin up's all you want to do." I see a stark contrast. But, if you remember differently . . . :cool:

Johnny Stew
12-16-2003, 06:55 PM
I've read... as I'm sure you have... dozens and dozens of interviews with Stevie over the years, and the only time I ever read comments from her where she truly expressed a major dissatisfaction with the band, was in "the Klonopin years."

Prior to that, she made comments to Jim Ladd while promoting 'Rock A Little,' where she said that if Fleetwood Mac dies and never records again, it wouldn't be her fault (implying that the others didn't take the band as seriously).
She had also made comments about being the "little sister" in the band, and that her opinions were not always respected because of that.
Even when she said she wasn't crazy about some of Lindsey's work on 'Tusk,' she was quick to add that her father loved it and thought Lindsey was brilliant.

But none of that is terribly unkind, no matter how you look at it, and those few things are pretty much the extent of her expressing an unhappiness with Fleetwood Mac, prior to 1990.
Clearly we were only hearing her side of the story, but she wasn't casting doubt on the talents of anyone in the band, or writing off their contributions.

And see, I wasn't at all implying that anyone was "the bad guy," just that I think the flack Stevie receives about the things she said circa 1990+ is pretty unfair and disproportionate, in regards to the fact that the others have ALL made equally unkind (and sometimes more unkind) comments about her, and had been doing so for years.
They're "forgiven" for some reason, while Stevie... over a decade after the fact... is still often taken to task for it.
Again, maybe it's because people weren't used to that kind of talk from Stevie. Like she does with everything, Stevie has/had a way of romanticizing Fleetwood Mac... but there were very little of those rose-colored views in evidence in the late '80s and early '90s.

I'm also not saying she was "more justified" in doing it, than anyone else in the band was. Simply that she had just as much right to speak her mind as they all did.

I know you're as big of a Lindsey defender as I am a Stevie defender, but he said some pretty negative things over the years, and I don't think anyone here can deny that's pretty much shrugged off or ignored.

So I was merely stating my bewilderment at the double-standard... I wasn't trying to paint Stevie as the victim of big, bad bullies.

They've all come a very long way from where they were, and they're each an example of what people can accomplish if they learn from their mistakes, forgive others and themselves, and move forward with their lives. Well, Mick's business dealings aside! :)

strandinthewind
12-16-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by trackaghost
Finally....

Hope you enjoy and sorry it was in pieces, I couldn't attach anything larger.

(sorry I missed out a part before!)

Thanks for posting - I really enjoyed reading them!!!!!!

Les
12-16-2003, 08:01 PM
Hi there Johnny,

But none of that is terribly unkind, no matter how you look at it, and those few things are pretty much the extent of her expressing an unhappiness with Fleetwood Mac, prior to 1990.

To be honest, I've never seen a lot of "terribly unkind" things from Lindsey or Christine either. There are about two comments from Christine and three comments from Lindsey that get brought up over and over and over to "prove" their poor treatment of her.

Like I said, they all got mad and sniped or were pointedly blunt from time to time. I personally don't especially see them as being disproportionately more guilty of it than she.

Clearly we were only hearing her side of the story, but she wasn't casting doubt on the talents of anyone in the band, or writing off their contributions.

No, she wasn't. But I would say that she wasn't a stranger to casting doubts on the character of some of her bandmates - implying from time to time that they didn't have her strength of character, implying that they didn't share her committment to the band/to work/to music, implying that any time they, Lindsey particularly, ever said anything that could be construed as criticism, it couldn't be because he held a valid opinion with beliefs to back it up (like she did), but because he was jealous and small. It wasn't especially rare for her to make some of those implications. She could be patronizing about her bandmates in a different way, but in the same proportion to which she felt they were to her. That's just my opinion. But I don't hold her more or less responsible for that than I hold the others for their comments.

In fact, I'm not exactly sure I "hold them responsible" for any of it. It makes me feel like a parent of people who were grown ups in the first place.

And see, I wasn't at all implying that anyone was "the bad guy," just that I think the flack Stevie receives about the things she said circa 1990+ is pretty unfair and disproportionate, in regards to the fact that the others have ALL made equally unkind (and sometimes more unkind) comments about her, and had been doing so for years.

No, but you took a conversation that was only partially about some of Stevie's harder times, and not at all about what she said about others, and said, "Hey but look at the nastiness that Lindsey and Chistine directed at her, and since they don't have Klonopin as an excuse, it makes them look worse." ;) Okay, no that's not what you said, it just seemed to be the implication to some extent, hehe. Just seemed a bit of out of the blue fingerpointing in the context of the conversation.

But more to your point, I suppose that the focus on Stevie's "bitter period" (if that's the best thing to call it, hehe) is also simply a part of being the most popular member and receiving disproportionate amount of attention for everything. Looking at this thread, it's not populated with people who dislike Stevie who are chastizing her behavior. It's made up of huge Stevie fans, who outnumber all other fans on this board, and who love her and talk about every aspect of her career more than anyone else's. Don't you think?

They're "forgiven" for some reason, while Stevie... over a decade after the fact... is still often taken to task for it.

They are? I've seen Christine's "rubbish" comment and Lindsey's "lounge act" comment brought up hundreds of times. ;) (And incidentally, I know I've brought this up before too, but Lindsey also referred to himself as a lounge act player, because he used that term in a very specific kind of context. It wasn't a compliment, but I'm not sure it's quite the vast insult some think it was intended to be either.)

Again, maybe it's because people weren't used to that kind of talk from Stevie. Like she does with everything, Stevie has/had a way of romanticizing Fleetwood Mac... but there were very little of those rose-colored views in evidence in the late '80s and early '90s.

That's undoubtedly true. When you romanticize something one way, it's a great deal more noticable when that romanticizing vanishes. That's an unavoidable, but also self-inflicted side effect of romanticizing sometimes.

I'm also not saying she was "more justified" in doing it, than anyone else in the band was. Simply that she had just as much right to speak her mind as they all did.

Sure. I agree. And to reiterate again what I said above, they aren't worse for saying what was on their minds either just because they weren't under the influence of Klonopin. Actually, a couple of the most biting interviews I've ever seen from Stevie came in 1994, when by her own account, she was clean of drugs entirely. So Klonopin doesn't play a role in that either.

I know you're as big of a Lindsey defender as I am a Stevie defender, but he said some pretty negative things over the years, and I don't think anyone here can deny that's pretty much shrugged off or ignored.

Actually, I can. LOL! :D

SaraRhiannon
12-16-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by trackaghost
Finally....

Hope you enjoy and sorry it was in pieces, I couldn't attach anything larger.

(sorry I missed out a part before!)


Thank you Sharon!!

AliP
12-16-2003, 08:20 PM
I don't think characterizing what each member has said about the band or others necessarily as "unkind" but more "negative" than anything. (I'm sure somebody already posted that). Well, actually I believe that Christine has probably been the least negative out of all of them. (Not including John b/c he never says anything and Mick because he will never say anything negative about the machine that makes him gazillions of dollars except for maybe the whole Tusk fiasco (of course didn't make enough money so he had to diss it) But, of course, there aren't as many Christine interviews out there as there are Stevie or Lindsey interviews.

I always found Lindsey to be the most "negative" member of FM up until The Dance. Really, the man never had much good to say about the band - and if it was good he seemed to turn it around into something negative or not really praisworthy - i.e. the sales of Rumours and is often quoted - "the sales overshadowed the music." Though not negative - he seems to take something positive and and make it sound kind of regretable.

Nowadays of course, I believe he doesn't have any negative things to say because he's basically in charge and he can put out a solo album and call it a Fleetwood Mac album - which sells more and gets more recognition. Nothing wrong with that - just goes to show that the more room he has to manuever the happier he is.

About the only thing I can remember that Stevie always talked about that is somewhat negative about Fleetwood Mac (before Timespace) was how FM never approved of her solo career and how they were like "anxious cats" waiting for her to come back to the studio. I have always wondered about whom she is actually referring to.....I always think of Lindsey when she says that, but then I think "why Lindsey, he always acted like he didn't want anything to do with FM anyway." So it must have been Mick - I don't know? Or maybe she is referring to when they had already began the album and she wasn't there - then I can see all of them being a little disgruntled.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts on that. And on a side note, I love to defend Stevie and Lindsey equally. :)

Johnny Stew
12-16-2003, 08:58 PM
I guess this is another case of perception, as I never thought Stevie to be patronizing or disparaging towards the rest of the band. But maybe someone who is perhaps less of a Stevie fan and more of a fan of other members, might see it that way.
And vice versa, in regards to their comments about her.

And any comments that Stevie has made about Lindsey not always wanting to work on her songs to make them the best they could be, etc., have been verified by comments Lindsey has made himself.
He's since admitted as much, so it's not like she was just taking pot-shots there.

I've mentioned Christine's "rubbish" comment, and Lindsey's "lounge act" assessment before, I know, but there were other comments and sarcastic attitudes expressed by them in the past.
Those are just the two most easily referenced instances.

Beyond all of this, I really wasn't trying to cast Lindsey and Christine in a bad light, or turn this thread against them somehow. I just merely wanted to point to a couple of examples of "bitchiness" from other members of the band, as I pondered why Stevie gets so much flak for her so-called "bitchy period."

Les
12-16-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by AliP
Well, actually I believe that Christine has probably been the least negative out of all of them.

Hehe, I actually think Christine is the owner of some of the ruder things ever said actually, but somehow it just ends up being something you wince at, but can't stifle a laugh anyway. Though often they aren't directly about the band. The one that always leaps to mind was when she was asked how she felt about "the girls" joining as a regular part of the backing band to sing backup, I guess it was for the Tango tour (or maybe it was Behind The Mask tour), and she said something about how it was fine as long as she didn't have to look at them. LOL! *ahem* Ouch.

Then there was a question about what she thought of the Beach Boys when she first saw them (obviously this was of interest because she dated Dennis). She said something like, "I thought they looked very American; to be honest, I thought they looked real ugly." *cough* Ouch again. LOL!

But anyway...hehe.

Les
12-16-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Johnny Stew
[B]I guess this is another case of perception, as I never thought Stevie to be patronizing or disparaging towards the rest of the band. But maybe someone who is perhaps less of a Stevie fan and more of a fan of other members, might see it that way.
And vice versa, in regards to their comments about her.

I know what you're saying. I've read some things at times said by others and thought, "that was pretty snotty about Lindsey", but then I'd read it again at a different time and think, "Well, maybe not. It's mostly just a blunt opinion and he certainly has those too."

And any comments that Stevie has made about Lindsey not always wanting to work on her songs to make them the best they could be, etc., have been verified by comments Lindsey has made himself. He's since admitted as much, so it's not like she was just taking pot-shots there.

True. I suppose I just sometimes wonder how one-sided some of this stuff was. In some ways, because Lindsey was bluntly honest about not being thrilled at all aspects of having an almost impossibly successful album, he made himself an easy target for fans and bandmates alike. I've seen an interview with Stevie and an interview with Christine where each of them says they really didn't like a couple of Lindsey's Tusk songs and didn't want to be on a couple of them, even when asked (not unlike "Come" this time around). Back then, both Stevie and Christine laughed as they relayed the story, but I just thought about that for a minute and wondered how that situation would be perceived if it was Lindsey flat out refusing to even touch one of their songs. I kind of suspect I know the answer. ;)

Oh, they all have their crosses to bear, hehe. ;)

Johnny Stew
12-16-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Les
I've seen an interview with Stevie and an interview with Christine where each of them says they really didn't like a couple of Lindsey's Tusk songs and didn't want to be on a couple of them, even when asked (not unlike "Come" this time around). Back then, both Stevie and Christine laughed as they relayed the story, but I just thought about that for a minute and wondered how that situation would be perceived if it was Lindsey flat out refusing to even touch one of their songs. I kind of suspect I know the answer. ;)

Oh, they all have their crosses to bear, hehe. ;) I guess we kind of have a similar situation with "Planets Of The Universe," which Stevie had said Lindsey wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. *lol*

And Ken Caillat said in his Q&A that Lindsey bulked at recording "Smile At You" for 'Mirage,' because he was "put off" by some of the musicians Stevie used for her demo.
Oddly enough, Ken commented earlier in the Q&A that he thought the guitarist Stevie used on the demo nailed a Lindsey-ish sound... so maybe that's the reason the 'Say You Will' version is so radically different!

I see what you mean, Les, about Christine and Stevie laughing and joking about how they didn't care for some of Lindsey's 'Tusk' songs, and that they had refused to be on them.
I suppose I never really took those comments in a mean-spirited way, because they were said with a laugh, but if I look at them from the opposite angle, I can see that they could be taken as unkind.

Still, Stevie did qualify her statements with the fact that her father loved Lindsey's 'Tusk' tunes, and felt they were brilliant.
Which I thought was a generous statement to make, since she could have easily left that part out.

As you and I have agreed in the past, not a single member of this band is an angel. And I'm sure they were all difficult to get along with at varying times.
I guess we just all tend to defend the one whose side we most understand or relate to.

Les
12-16-2003, 10:18 PM
I guess we kind of have a similar situation with "Planets Of The Universe," which Stevie had said Lindsey wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. *lol*

Funnily enough, I actually find that to be a very interesting example of something very different. I know that Stevie introduced Planets every night on tour by joking how Lindsey wouldn't allow it on an album because he was mad about it. Funny, but perhaps more for laughs at Lindsey's expense than for cold hard truth. Maybe it's true. But the person who made me most doubt that was Stevie herself because during the promotion for TISL, Stevie told Anthony DeCurtis a different story in a video interview. She said that Lindsey told her he specifically really liked what John Shanks did with the song because he could never work out how the song should unfold. Stevie then said Sheryl Crow had the same problem. She started to work on the song, but then could never get past a certain point and ran out of ideas with where to take it in a certain part. Stevie started to despair it might not make it to yet another album, but then John Shanks did it.

But the whole story made me wonder, did Lindsey not work on the song because he was mad about it, or did he not work on the song because he just got stuck and couldn't think of something to do with it, but Stevie took it more personally? I don't really know. But at the least, it makes me think it's probably something in the middle, and that he did at least make an attempt or two at some point along the line.

PS - Maybe Lindsey's mom loved the original Smile At You, but reporters just weren't interested. :laugh:

AliP
12-17-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Les
Hehe, I actually think Christine is the owner of some of the ruder things ever said actually, but somehow it just ends up being something you wince at, but can't stifle a laugh anyway. Though often they aren't directly about the band. The one that always leaps to mind was when she was asked how she felt about "the girls" joining as a regular part of the backing band to sing backup, I guess it was for the Tango tour (or maybe it was Behind The Mask tour), and she said something about how it was fine as long as she didn't have to look at them. LOL! *ahem* Ouch.


But anyway...hehe.

I guess Chris can be pretty rude....but I've never really heard her say anything negative about Fleetwood Mac as a group.

Also about how Chris and Stevie said some kinda mean things about Lindsey's songs, I know you have all probably heard the Australian Interview that Stevie does. It's actually kind of funny because each time she starts talking about one of Lindsey's songs she starts off kinda leading you towards thinking that she is going to say something rude, but everytime she finishes it off with..."but I really like it!" "I didn't understand it at first but now I really like it!"

Who knows if she really meant it. Maybe she knew that Lindsey would hear it and she didn't want to hurt his feelings. The only song that she doesn't say that about is "That's Enough For Me" and that's when she goes into the story about how Chris hates it. Anyway, that interview is one of my faves :)

darklinensuit
12-17-2003, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
Thanks anyway :(

There was another interview where she got pissed. It was after Mick's book was out and I want to say aroung the Timespace record. When asked about her affair with Mick, she gave this look of death and was like "its already out there, its already been discussed. I have nothing to say" or something like that. Does anyone else remember seeing this?

Well, who the hell would want to be questioned about an affair with Mick? I imagine the reporter asked "What were you THINKING?":)

- Jake

strandinthewind
12-17-2003, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by darklinensuit
Well, who the hell would want to be questioned about an affair with Mick? I imagine the reporter asked "What were you THINKING?":)

- Jake

Hee Hee :laugh:

Also, Les - I think Stevie's comments on POTU are consistent. Although she later said LB did not really know what to do with it, I think that could could be an example of one of those times LB, in his own words said "and sometimes I did not really want to help her." I cannot imagine LB not haveing an idea or two about anything musical - the man is a genious.

Personally, my fav. deragotory quotes from each are : LB after backing out of the already booked TITN tour (no he will never be forgiven by me :cool: :laugh: ) "what was I going to do on tour - go out and watch Stevie twirl!" and La Nicks in a R.S. (I think) interview from the late 70's "all he ever wanted to do was sleep with that fu@#ing guitar!" :laugh: Oh family finghts are the best "laugh:

cliffdweller
12-17-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Again, maybe it's because people weren't used to that kind of talk from Stevie. Like she does with everything, Stevie has/had a way of romanticizing Fleetwood Mac... but there were very little of those rose-colored views in evidence in the late '80s and early '90s.

Or maybe it was jealousy on everyone else's part due to her solo success and committments thereof that took her away from the band for long stretches of time. The making of Mirage comes immediately to mind. I remember reading an article or two during the making of Mirage that included interviews from the rest of the band (Stevie wasn't even there) and they seemed very bitter and less than complimentary toward Stevie due to the fact that she was so absent from the making of that album, due to her solo career. I think her solo career was a HUGE source of tension for the band; they were always afraid she was gonna leave and take away the star power she provided, and she was always afraid that she was going to be replaced due to her enormous solo committments. It was a vicious catch-22. Anyway, as far as the rest of Fleetwood Mac s*&t-talking Stevie it seems like it hit its heights around the inception of her solo career, and like she said, she tried to keep it out of their faces but they couldn't handle it properly.